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    Bigger stage, NCAA Final Four or NBA?

    Discuss.

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    So, Quinn played pretty well in his limited minutes at the end of the game yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wander View Post
    So, Quinn played pretty well in his limited minutes at the end of the game yesterday.
    He's played great for a while now!
    "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge" -Stephen Hawking

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldPhiKap View Post
    Bigger stage, NCAA Final Four or NBA?

    Discuss.
    Fact #1: NCAA Final Four court floor dimensions are 140 feet x 70 feet.
    Fact #2: NBA regulation court floor dimensions are 94 feet x 50 feet.

    Conclusion: the NCAA Final Four is, quite literally, the bigger stage. Close the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brevity View Post
    Fact #1: NCAA Final Four court floor dimensions are 140 feet x 70 feet.
    Fact #2: NBA regulation court floor dimensions are 94 feet x 50 feet.

    Conclusion: the NCAA Final Four is, quite literally, the bigger stage. Close the thread.
    Plus, the NCAA has coaches on bar stools. Okay, a coach on a bar stool. Once.

    But still.

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    Not that my opinion counts for anything- with everything on the line in one game compared to a best of series, I’ll take the Final Four every time.

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    I really think that Quinn fully deserves any minutes he gets.
    Kyle gets BUCKETS!
    https://youtu.be/NJWPASQZqLc

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    I’m a huge college fan, and don’t really watch the NBA.

    Having said that — whichever stage LeBron James stands upon is the biggest. Wow.

    (And someone made the point last night: Jayson Tatum played something like 29 games at Duke; that was his 99th as an NBA player his rookie year. Jayson played incredibly well).

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    The question was posed as NCAA Final Four versus NBA...does that mean NBA in general? NBA play-offs? NBA Finals?

    The NBA stage during the regular season is often quite small...41 regular season home games...you end up with corporate tickets and people in the arena to be seen and in many places, seats are empty in the first quarter.

    Last night, with LeBron facing history, the NBA stage was very large. A Houston Boston finals would be a much smaller stage than LeBron and the Warriors in the Finals. In the NBA, where players reign supreme in the minds of fans and teams mean almost nothing outside the home city, the stage varies immensely. In the NCAA, the stage variance is not as great, as there is a kind of national investment into the whole March Madness situation, and people will watch it to the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldPhiKap View Post
    (And someone made the point last night: Jayson Tatum played something like 29 games at Duke; that was his 99th as an NBA player his rookie year. Jayson played incredibly well).
    This is true...but think about this: Kyrie played 11 games for Duke, and Duke is his "brotherhood" - while he walked away from LeBron after playing many many games with him. Grant Hill? Known as Duke player, not a Piston or member of the Magic, or whatever. Laettner played what, 12 years in the NBA, and played on the original Dream Team? Still known only for his college days. Even Magic and Bird are known, to a degree, for their meeting in college.

    There is something about the stage of the NCAA that has long long legs....overwhelming the massive number of games that NBA careers produce. Do with that what you will, but I think there is something to be said for a stage as it relates to memories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brevity View Post
    Fact #1: NCAA Final Four court floor dimensions are 140 feet x 70 feet.
    Fact #2: NBA regulation court floor dimensions are 94 feet x 50 feet.

    Conclusion: the NCAA Final Four is, quite literally, the bigger stage. Close the thread.
    SNAP.
    Nothing incites bodily violence quicker than a Duke fan turning in your direction and saying 'scoreboard.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by brevity View Post
    Fact #1: NCAA Final Four court floor dimensions are 140 feet x 70 feet.
    Fact #2: NBA regulation court floor dimensions are 94 feet x 50 feet.

    Conclusion: the NCAA Final Four is, quite literally, the bigger stage. Close the thread.
    Not allowed to spork, but I enjoyed this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HereBeforeCoachK View Post
    This is true...but think about this: Kyrie played 11 games for Duke, and Duke is his "brotherhood" - while he walked away from LeBron after playing many many games with him. Grant Hill? Known as Duke player, not a Piston or member of the Magic, or whatever. Laettner played what, 12 years in the NBA, and played on the original Dream Team? Still known only for his college days. Even Magic and Bird are known, to a degree, for their meeting in college.

    There is something about the stage of the NCAA that has long long legs...overwhelming the massive number of games that NBA careers produce. Do with that what you will, but I think there is something to be said for a stage as it relates to memories.
    Ahhhh memories. Things UNC fans hold on to for 200 Alex...

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    Quote Originally Posted by brevity View Post
    Fact #1: NCAA Final Four court floor dimensions are 140 feet x 70 feet.
    Fact #2: NBA regulation court floor dimensions are 94 feet x 50 feet.

    Conclusion: the NCAA Final Four is, quite literally, the bigger stage. Close the thread.

    Hate to be the party pooper, but actually, the NCAA and NBA courts are exactly the same size, 94' x 50' (Sports Court dimensions).

    Looking at this another way, by TV viewership, comparing the last game of the NBA finals versus the championship game of the NCAA tourney (which I think is a much fairer comparison than the one that hallcity cites), here are the numbers last few years:
    NBA: 2015 23.2M viewers. 2016 31.0M 2017 24.5M 2018 TBD
    NCAA: 2015 28.2M 2016 17.8M 2017 23.0M 2018 16.5M

    Conclusions: 1) NBA trends higher in viewership 2) folks love Duke (2015!) 3) 'Nova--not so much.

    I also always remember JJ Redick on his (former) podcast making it crystal clear that he'd take an NBA championship over an NCAA champ 10 times out of 10. Suspect any of his colleagues in the league would agree. So, I'd say NBA stage is a bit bigger. But I'd still watch a Duke exhibition game over the NBA finals any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clinresga View Post
    Hate to be the party pooper, but actually, the NCAA and NBA courts are exactly the same size, 94' x 50' (Sports Court dimensions).

    Looking at this another way, by TV viewership, comparing the last game of the NBA finals versus the championship game of the NCAA tourney (which I think is a much fairer comparison than the one that hallcity cites), here are the numbers last few years:
    NBA: 2015 23.2M viewers. 2016 31.0M 2017 24.5M 2018 TBD
    NCAA: 2015 28.2M 2016 17.8M 2017 23.0M 2018 16.5M

    Conclusions: 1) NBA trends higher in viewership 2) folks love Duke (2015!) 3) 'Nova--not so much.

    I also always remember JJ Redick on his (former) podcast making it crystal clear that he'd take an NBA championship over an NCAA champ 10 times out of 10. Suspect any of his colleagues in the league would agree. So, I'd say NBA stage is a bit bigger. But I'd still watch a Duke exhibition game over the NBA finals any day.
    I suspect the difference in dimensions is the floor size rather than playing surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clinresga View Post
    ...I also always remember JJ Redick on his (former) podcast making it crystal clear that he'd take an NBA championship over an NCAA champ 10 times out of 10. Suspect any of his colleagues in the league would agree...
    Makes sense. The huge contract bonuses and the sweet (??? meh) championship hats increase the happy factor.
    Nothing incites bodily violence quicker than a Duke fan turning in your direction and saying 'scoreboard.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by clinresga View Post
    I also always remember JJ Redick on his (former) podcast making it crystal clear that he'd take an NBA championship over an NCAA champ 10 times out of 10. Suspect any of his colleagues in the league would agree. So, I'd say NBA stage is a bit bigger. But I'd still watch a Duke exhibition game over the NBA finals any day.
    ...while this is true....ask a thousand sports fans for a snap word association with JJ - and its Duke...period...hands down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HereBeforeCoachK View Post
    ...while this is true...ask a thousand sports fans for a snap word association with JJ - and its Duke...period...hands down.
    That's true for him perhaps but not the vast majority of players.
    "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge" -Stephen Hawking

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    Quote Originally Posted by JNort View Post
    That's true for him perhaps but not the vast majority of players.
    Well I don't know about vast majority...now certainly with OAD this is lessening, but I think it's true for a lot players who play routinely on the big stage of college hoops (Duke, Kansas, the cheats, Kentucky, etc.)

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