2020 Duke men's basketball recruiting

[mph]

If so, they could be the class of the Pac 12.

Which ain’t sayin’ much lately. 😁

[53n206]

Anyone else think it's a little"unfair" to hire an asst. coach and suddenly sign the coach's highly ranked son? Think of recent Ok State hire and past Ks hire (Manning).

[cato]

Anyone else think it's a little"unfair" to hire an asst. coach and suddenly sign the coach's highly ranked son? Think of recent Ok State hire and past Ks hire (Manning).

Me: that’s not fair? Do you know what I am about to say?

My daughter, eye roll implied, but not included: life is not fair.

Exeunt stage left.

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

Anyone else think it's a little"unfair" to hire an asst. coach and suddenly sign the coach's highly ranked son? Think of recent Ok State hire and past Ks hire (Manning).

It's wildly unfair, done regularly, and difficult to prove the motivation behind (though some of these instances are clearer than others).

[lotusland]

It's wildly unfair, done regularly, and difficult to prove the motivation behind (though some of these instances are clearer than others).

Minor quibble but I don’t think it’s unfair. It’s unseemly but it would only be unfair if the option was only available to a few schools. Any school can hire a player’s parent. Did LSU hire Press Maravich because he was a great coach or because his son was Pistol Pete? There’s no way to either know or to police it. Nowadays if a player is really good, you’re only getting him for one year anyway so the advantage is minimized.

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

Minor quibble but I don’t think it’s unfair. It’s unseemly but it would only be unfair if the option was only available to a few schools. Any school can hire a player’s parent. Did LSU hire Press Maravich because he was a great coach or because his son was Pistol Pete? There’s no way to either know or to police it. Nowadays if a player is really good, you’re only getting him for one year anyway so the advantage is minimized.

I feel like we had this discussion recently on another thread, but I'll take it...

Where's the line between "come to my school and I will hire your dad," "come to my school, we have a friend with a job waiting for your mom," and "come to my school, here's a sack of money for your parents?"

[TampaDuke]

Talk about helicopter parents. Can you imagine!

In the OAD environment, tough to see how any player is worth it. And it's certainly not a long-term recruiting strategy. Seems more like a gimmick for desperate programs/coaches. One that I'd wager will not meet expectations more often than not.

[BD80]

Minor quibble but I don’t think it’s unfair. It’s unseemly but it would only be unfair if the option was only available to a few schools. Any school can hire a player’s parent. Did LSU hire Press Maravich because he was a great coach or because his son was Pistol Pete? There’s no way to either know or to police it. Nowadays if a player is really good, you’re only getting him for one year anyway so the advantage is minimized.

Unless there are TWO sons.

[AGDukesky]

It’s only unfair if the parent has no qualifications for the position

[JasonEvans]

It’s only unfair if the parent has no qualifications for the position

Eric Mobley played 3 years in the NBA and has been an AAU coach for 11 years. He seems pretty reasonably qualified. I too have no problem with USC doing this. It will be interesting to see how long Eric Mobley sticks around on the staff after his kids are gone.

-Jason "Ed Manning followed Larry Brown from the Kansas to the NBA and was a scout for the Spurs for a while... but even Brown admitted that he initially only hired Ed to get Danny" Evans

[AGDukesky]

Eric Mobley played 3 years in the NBA and has been an AAU coach for 11 years. He seems pretty reasonably qualified. I too have no problem with USC doing this. It will be interesting to see how long Eric Mobley sticks around on the staff after his kids are gone.

-Jason "Ed Manning followed Larry Brown from the Kansas to the NBA and was a scout for the Spurs for a while... but even Brown admitted that he initially only hired Ed to get Danny" Evans

Right, that’s why I have no trouble with Mobley being hired. The whole process is somewhat unseemly but not anything that bothers me enough to get riled up...

[Pghdukie]

"Just Win Baby" is a quote for which way too much emphasis is applied.

Sometimes!

[lotusland]

Unless there are TWO sons.

Good Point. Tre Jones’ father should be assistant coach and Perky Plumlee should be Athletic Director. We got 2 championships from the Plumlees 12 Seasons and hopefully Tre will Pull the Joneses even with a second championship in 3 seasons.

[Truth&Justise]

Good Point. Tre Jones’ father should be assistant coach and Perky Plumlee should be Athletic Director. We got 2 championships from the Plumlees 12 Seasons and hopefully Tre will Pull the Joneses even with a second championship in 3 seasons.

If you're going to count the Plumlees's 12 seasons (despite overlap), then you need to credit them with three championships (despite overlap). So we are averaging one championship for every 4 years a Plumlee plays.

For the Joneses, we are currently averaging one championship for every 2 years played.

[johnb]

Anyone else think it's a little"unfair" to hire an asst. coach and suddenly sign the coach's highly ranked son? Think of recent Ok State hire and past Ks hire (Manning).

This may be a sensitive subject on a Duke board, but it's not unreasonable to wonder about Tom Butters' decision to hire a lightly regarded Michael Krzwkyszhshiki to coach Duke when we all know it was laying the groundwork for his recruitment of Michael Savarino, who is soon to win 4 consecutive national championships for his underprepared grandpa.

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

This may be a sensitive subject on a Duke board, but it's not unreasonable to wonder about Tom Butters' decision to hire a lightly regarded Michael Krzwkyszhshiki to coach Duke when we all know it was laying the groundwork for his recruitment of Michael Savarino, who is soon to win 4 consecutive national championships for his underprepared grandpa.

Why is no one talking about this?

[johnb]

Not sure where to put this, but the front page has a story about a New Jersey kid named Wheeler who is going to Italy instead of transferring for a senior year at the Patrick School. I was curious. I’d guessed that the school must be a basketball powerhouse, but I’d never heard of it. From the web site, its team has been plenty good. They had a McDonald’s A-A last year, and they once had a backcourt of Kyrie and Kidd-Gilchrist.

Sort of. The Newark diocese closed the school in June 2012. Parents and staff from the closed school reopened it 3 months later at a different location but a similar name. St. Patrick’s to The Patrick School.

When the school closed, their basketball coach, Kevin Boyle, landed at Monteverde.

Kyrie goes back regularly and plays with the guys. It’s one Celtic team he’ll play for. He even renovated the school gym and weight room (well, Nike did it, but Kyrie directed it).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._...l_(New_Jersey)
http://highschoolsports.nj.com/news/...ways-a-celtic/

[CrazyNotCrazie]

This may be a sensitive subject on a Duke board, but it's not unreasonable to wonder about Tom Butters' decision to hire a lightly regarded Michael Krzwkyszhshiki to coach Duke when we all know it was laying the groundwork for his recruitment of Michael Savarino, who is soon to win 4 consecutive national championships for his underprepared grandpa.

And of course, in 1997 Coach K hired Johnny Dawkins as an assistant coach in hopes of someday landing his then 2-year old son Aubrey. Unfortunately, that didn't work out as planned. Or perhaps it goes further back and Coach K recruited Johnny D as a player in 1982 solely in hopes of landing his yet-to-be conceived offspring.

Or perhaps Vic Bubas recruited Jay Buckley as part of the master plan to help his successor, Coach K, land Clay Buckley?

[Indoor66]

Or perhaps Vic Bubas recruited Jay Buckley as part of the master plan to help his successor, Coach K, land Clay Buckley?

An that was with 3 intervening coaches! How prescient.

[JasonEvans]

When the school closed, their basketball coach, Kevin Boyle, landed at Monteverde.

Seeing someone mention Monteverde gives me an excuse to talk about how much I want to see Monteverde play Sierra Canyon this coming year. They both seem to be putting together truly legendary high school teams. It is highly likely that each of these teams has 3-5 lottery picks playing for them this year... maybe more!

Monteverde
Sr: Cade Cunningham - PG, 2020 #2 player
Sr: Scottie Barnes - PF, 2020 #9 player
Sr: Moses Moody - SG, 2020 #24 player
Sr: Day'Ron Sharpe - C, 2020 #34 player
So: Caleb Houstan - PF, 2022 #4 player
So: Dariq Whitehead - SG, 2002 #7 player

Sierra Canyon
Sr: Zaire Williams - SF, 2020 #6 player
Sr: BJ Boston - SF, 2020 #7 player
Sr: Zaire Wade - PG, DWade's son with offers from Miami and Michigan St.
So: Terren Frank - PF, 2020 #43 player
So: Amari Bailey - SG, 2022 #6 player
Fr: Lebron James, Jr.