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  1. #241
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    We're losing all our centers and power forwards after next season. It worries me that we're only recruiting Kessler. We need to land at least two preferably three post guys.

    Ideally 1 5* center. 1 4* project center. 1 4* PF in the veins of Lance, Amile and Javin.

  2. #242
    Andrew Slater and others are reporting that Duke's staff, including Coach K are down in Georgia today to check out two of the primary targets for the Class of 2020: Brandon Boston and Walker Kessler. Kessler is deciding where to take his 5th official visit (he has already been to Duke) and looking at how different schools have utilized big men. His father appears to put a priority on academics.

    This might be a good time to mention that Duke has had 2 Power Forwards named 1st Team All-American the past two seasons and has had a center drafted in the lottery in 2 of the past 4 NBA drafts.

  3. #243
    Quote Originally Posted by proelitedota View Post
    We're losing all our centers and power forwards after next season. It worries me that we're only recruiting Kessler. We need to land at least two preferably three post guys.

    Ideally 1 5* center. 1 4* project center. 1 4* PF in the veins of Lance, Amile and Javin.
    Lance and Amile were 5* prospects coming out of high school and both were McDonald's All-Americans.

    It looks like the coaching staff is prioritizing Jalen Johnson and Walker Kessler for the frontcourt. I would not be surprised to see a transfer or even two over this summer to bolster the Duke frontcourt.

  4. #244
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidBenAkiva View Post
    Andrew Slater and others are reporting that Duke's staff, including Coach K are down in Georgia today to check out two of the primary targets for the Class of 2020: Brandon Boston and Walker Kessler. Kessler is deciding where to take his 5th official visit (he has already been to Duke) and looking at how different schools have utilized big men. His father appears to put a priority on academics.
    I wonder if Kessler will wait a bit to see how Tom Crean does with his stud recruits this year at Georgia. We all know about Crean bringing in Anthony Edwards, but he also has three other guys who are top 100 recruits. If Georgia is suddenly a legit tournament contender and a team getting some attention, it becomes a much more attractive destination for Kessler (and perhaps other local talent). Edwards will be turning pro after one year, but if the other recruits look good, but not good enough to go pro, then it could mean that Georgia has a nice foundation for Kessler to join.

    I've said for a while that the failure of Georgia and GaTech to land local recruits is a crime. Metro Atlanta is easily among the 5 best spots to find top tier basketball talent these days, but all the best kids have been going to Duke, Auburn, FSU, Fla, and other schools in recent years. We are talking about 3-6 top 50 recruits per year and none of them have been staying in state. If Tom Crean can break that trend, Georgia can be a consistent top 20 team and SEC contender.

    It is worth noting that of the 4 strong recruits Georgia is bringing in this season, only Edwards is from the state of Georgia. The other three are from Florida, Alabama, and South Carolina.

    -Jason "if Georgia rises up this season, Josh Pastner may get fired... Crean doing what Pastner has been unable to do would be really bad for Josh" Evans
    I don't know what you are doing right now, but if you aren't listening to the DBR Podcast, you're doing it wrong.

  5. #245
    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post
    I wonder if Kessler will wait a bit to see how Tom Crean does with his stud recruits this year at Georgia. We all know about Crean bringing in Anthony Edwards, but he also has three other guys who are top 100 recruits. If Georgia is suddenly a legit tournament contender and a team getting some attention, it becomes a much more attractive destination for Kessler (and perhaps other local talent). Edwards will be turning pro after one year, but if the other recruits look good, but not good enough to go pro, then it could mean that Georgia has a nice foundation for Kessler to join.

    I've said for a while that the failure of Georgia and GaTech to land local recruits is a crime. Metro Atlanta is easily among the 5 best spots to find top tier basketball talent these days, but all the best kids have been going to Duke, Auburn, FSU, Fla, and other schools in recent years. We are talking about 3-6 top 50 recruits per year and none of them have been staying in state. If Tom Crean can break that trend, Georgia can be a consistent top 20 team and SEC contender.

    It is worth noting that of the 4 strong recruits Georgia is bringing in this season, only Edwards is from the state of Georgia. The other three are from Florida, Alabama, and South Carolina.

    -Jason "if Georgia rises up this season, Josh Pastner may get fired... Crean doing what Pastner has been unable to do would be really bad for Josh" Evans
    Going out of state to land talent would be a very Tom Crean move. It's one of the reasons he was unpopular at Indiana - he never got a pipeline of kids to stay in state and go to Bloomington.

  6. #246

    Class of 2020 Recruiting Reset

    This post is probably a week too early, but what else am I going to do during the offseason?

    There is some clarity around Duke's 2019-20 roster at this point in time with a few uncertain pieces left to iron out. Let's start with the "known knowns," or the things we know will happen before the fall of 2020 rolls around.

    Departures, Certain (barring injury): Marques Bolden, Javin DeLaurier, Justin Robinson, and Jack White
    Departures, Likely: Vernon Carey, Jr., Matthew Hurt (should he indeed commit this Friday), and Tre Jones

    That's a lot of frontcourt talent to lose as well as a potential All-American in Tre Jones. It's not clear that Jones will leave, but we can assume he is more likely to depart for the NBA after the 2019-20 season than to stick around for a junior season.

    On the Fence: Wendell Moore, Cassius Stanley (should he indeed commit this Saturday)

    It's not clear to me that either is a one-and-done talent at this point in time. If I had to guess, I expect both to stick around for at least 2 years. Wendell Moore appears to be the more skilled of the two. His game is that of an ultimate glue guy where he does everything well without standing out in any one particular area. Is that going to be enough for him to draw the attention he would need to get into the NBA Draft? Stanley is older and has a wow factor with his athleticism. But his skills appear to be further behind. I would like to reserve judgement on both until the season starts. I did go back and forth about Tre Jones, believing he would be a multi-year player at first, then certain he would go to the NBA, and then ultimately concluding in February or so that he would probably return. These things change over time.

    Probably Returning: Jordan Goldwire, Alex O'Connell, Joey Baker, Boogie Ellis

    If you combine the last two categories, that's a pretty versatile and nice depth chart for the backcourt and wings. There's shooting, size, and length. There is a glaring lack of frontcourt.

    Offers:
    Scottie Barnes, 6'9" F, West Palm Beach, FL
    Brandon "B.J." Boston, 6'6" SG, Atlanta, GA
    R.J. Hampton, 6'5" G, Little Elm, TX
    Jalen Johnson, 6'8" F, Sun Prairie, WI
    Walker Kessler, 7'0" C, Fairburn, GA
    Jeremy Roach, 6'2" PG, Fairfax, VA

    It appears the Boston, Johnson, and Kessler are the primary recruiting targets at the moment. I expect that Hampton's decision to reclassify to the Class of 2019 will determine whether he remains a priority or if Duke puts more attention on Roach as its primary point guard target. Duke has also hosted Henry Coleman, a 6'7" forward from Richmond, VA. I haven't seen an offer extended yet. He's ranked 46th in the 247Sports Composite and would be an apparent replacement for Jack White or Javin DeLaurier in the frontcourt as a multi-year player.

    One final note is that we might see a transfer this summer. Duke is in desperate need of frontcourt depth. It seems that the plan is to have Kessler and Johnson in the frontcourt if they both commit. Both can shoot and Johnson is considered an elite playmaker. Perhaps Joey Baker could play some time at the stretch 4 to spell Johnson or play alongside him as a small forward. In either case, Duke really needs a reserve center that can play in the post or even be a starting center if Walker Kessler decides to go elsewhere. Given the lack of experience anticipated in the frontcourt, I would assume a transfer this summer would be helpful to have some experience down low.

  7. #247
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidBenAkiva View Post
    Lance and Amile were 5* prospects coming out of high school and both were McDonald's All-Americans.

    It looks like the coaching staff is prioritizing Jalen Johnson and Walker Kessler for the frontcourt. I would not be surprised to see a transfer or even two over this summer to bolster the Duke frontcourt.
    Doesn't Kessler have pretty strong family ties to Georgia?

  8. #248
    Quote Originally Posted by luvdahops View Post
    Doesn't Kessler have pretty strong family ties to Georgia?
    Vernon Carey, Jr. had strong family ties to Miami. He's going to play for Duke next season. Kessler is a hot commodity. He's a priority recruit for Virginia, Georgia, UNC, and Duke. Coach K is making it known that Kessler is a high priority for Duke. He visited the Kessler family over the weekend, the first day that he could make an in-home visit during the live recruiting period. Coach K and staff also made a visit to Brandon Boston, Jr.

  9. #249
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    Boston, Johnson and Kessler are the three recruits Duke feels very good about.

  10. #250
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimsumner View Post
    Boston, Johnson and Kessler are the three recruits Duke feels very good about.
    Hoping that Brian Antoinette and Josiah James were the outliers! We can't afford to miss Kessler at the very least next season unless we're ok starting Joey Baker at the 5.

  11. #251
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    Quote Originally Posted by proelitedota View Post
    Hoping that Brian Antoinette and Josiah James were the outliers! We can't afford to miss Kessler at the very least next season unless we're ok starting Joey Baker at the 5.
    Duke thought they had a good shot with Bryan Antoinette. But then he told Duke to eat cake and people started losing their heads.

    Figuratively speaking, of course.

  12. #252
    Quote Originally Posted by jimsumner View Post
    Duke thought they had a good shot with Bryan Antoinette. But then he told Duke to eat cake and people started losing their heads.

    Figuratively speaking, of course.
    Wasn't that his mother, Marie, who said that?

  13. #253
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indoor66 View Post
    Wasn't that his mother, Marie, who said that?
    Revolutionary.
    [redacted] them and the horses they rode in on.

  14. #254
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    Quote Originally Posted by devildeac View Post
    Revolutionary.
    Marie doesn't seem to have her head in the right place then.

  15. #255
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidBenAkiva View Post


    Departures, Likely: ... Matthew Hurt (should he indeed commit this Friday),
    Gone before he even commits

  16. #256
    Quote Originally Posted by proelitedota View Post
    Marie doesn't seem to have her head in the right place then.
    But she wears the pants in the family

  17. #257
    Quote Originally Posted by jimsumner View Post
    Boston, Johnson and Kessler are the three recruits Duke feels very good about.
    This would be an excellent group of recruits. Thanks, Jim!

  18. #258
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    Athens, GA
    Quote Originally Posted by DavidBenAkiva View Post
    Going out of state to land talent would be a very Tom Crean move. It's one of the reasons he was unpopular at Indiana - he never got a pipeline of kids to stay in state and go to Bloomington.
    Going out of state to land talent would be a very (successful head coach's) move.

    Of Bruce Pearl's Auburn FF starters, 3 were from Georgia and a fourth from North Augusta, SC(and the injured Okeke is from ATL).

    Do you think many Hoosiers really cared that the undefeated '75-'76 IU team had two out-of-state starters in Scott May and Quinn Buckner, and that 5/13 players on that team were from Illinois?

    Do you think that Hoosier supporters are going to be okay with IU continuing to go 16-15 and 19-16 under Archie Miller, even if he is recruiting and playing the best in-state players? Ironically, none of IU's current targets in the 2020 class is from Indiana.

    Tom Crean is paid to recruit and win at the highest level, and he'll be very popular at UGA should he begin to win 24-26+ games/year, regardless of where the players hail from.
    "Play and practice like you are trying to make the team." --Coach K

  19. #259
    Quote Originally Posted by Spanarkel View Post
    Going out of state to land talent would be a very (successful head coach's) move.

    Of Bruce Pearl's Auburn FF starters, 3 were from Georgia and a fourth from North Augusta, SC(and the injured Okeke is from ATL).

    Do you think many Hoosiers really cared that the undefeated '75-'76 IU team had two out-of-state starters in Scott May and Quinn Buckner, and that 5/13 players on that team were from Illinois?

    Do you think that Hoosier supporters are going to be okay with IU continuing to go 16-15 and 19-16 under Archie Miller, even if he is recruiting and playing the best in-state players? Ironically, none of IU's current targets in the 2020 class is from Indiana.

    Tom Crean is paid to recruit and win at the highest level, and he'll be very popular at UGA should he begin to win 24-26+ games/year, regardless of where the players hail from.
    Every fanbase is different. I agree that Tom Crean would still be at IU if he was winning. It's why I said that lack of in-state recruiting was one of the reasons he was fired. The bottom line is that you have to win. The second you slip up in Indiana, the first thing the locals are going to say is that you didn't get the local kids to stay in state. Ask any Hoosier fan. I'm from Indiana and can tell you how important that is to the Hoosier fanbase.

    Auburn doesn't have that basketball tradition. They have Charles Barkley, but that's about it. They just played in the very first Final Four in program history and have won the SEC Tournament just twice. Winning with any players is a huge deal there.

    Winning is the best way to be successful. But winning a certain way matters to some fans.

  20. #260
    What is Duke's interest level in Jalen Suggs? According to this article, Duke is high on his families list.

    https://www.aseaofblue.com/2019/4/15...len-suggs-duke

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