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  1. #1
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    2020 Duke men's basketball recruiting

    There's a significant likelihood that this will be the first post-OAD year (since OAD was instituted). Duke looks to be in the mix for top recruits like RJ Hampton and Isaiah Todd, but I expect we'll see both go pro straight from HS.
    From what I can tell, we're also looking at Nico Mannion and Jeremy Roach. Scottie Barnes is another name I've seen mentioned, but he's a top 10 recruit.

    This may be a seismic year in recruiting, particularly if K retires.

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    2018 theoretically isn't even finalized and we're already on to 2020? I love it. Here's to another successful year of recruiting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke95 View Post
    There's a significant likelihood that this will be the first post-OAD year (since OAD was instituted). Duke looks to be in the mix for top recruits like RJ Hampton and Isaiah Todd, but I expect we'll see both go pro straight from HS.
    From what I can tell, we're also looking at Nico Mannion and Jeremy Roach. Scottie Barnes is another name I've seen mentioned, but he's a top 10 recruit.

    This may be a seismic year in recruiting, particularly if K retires.
    Seems to me K would want to carry us through the transition if such a transition happens. It's not in his nature to leave unfinished business lying around...

    -jk

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    Quote Originally Posted by -jk View Post
    Seems to me K would want to carry us through the transition if such a transition happens. It's not in his nature to leave unfinished business lying around...

    -jk
    Might be true. Though, if he wins another one between now and then, I think there's a high probability he'll call it a career.

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    If this is in fact the first year without the OAD rule, then you'll have both the high schoolers who graduated in 2020 and the previous year's class who has played one season in college. Which means it will be a really stacked class and only the really elite will be able to make the jump. Before the OAD rule was put in place, we had maybe two or three guys go straight from high school each year. Even if you assume that high schoolers are more prepared now than they were in the past, and that NBA teams have more access to evaluate the younger players via the internet, I still don't think very many players will be affected.

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    BTW this thread may have the lowest probability of actually staying on topic in DBR history. Already we've started on potential rule changes, recruiting OAD's, and K's retirement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UrinalCake View Post
    BTW this thread may have the lowest probability of actually staying on topic in DBR history. Already we've started on potential rule changes, recruiting OAD's, and K's retirement.

    there's a couple of years to get back on topic

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    Quote Originally Posted by UrinalCake View Post
    If this is in fact the first year without the OAD rule, then you'll have both the high schoolers who graduated in 2020 and the previous year's class who has played one season in college. Which means it will be a really stacked class and only the really elite will be able to make the jump. Before the OAD rule was put in place, we had maybe two or three guys go straight from high school each year. Even if you assume that high schoolers are more prepared now than they were in the past, and that NBA teams have more access to evaluate the younger players via the internet, I still don't think very many players will be affected.
    I think this is a good point, and one that I find of great interest from an economic perspective as it relates to relevant markets. Of course, there is also the ongoing litigation that may change things considerably.

    So yes, a lot of factors in play for 2020 recruiting. We may end up with a new coach, no amateurism, no OAD rule...or none of those things. Still up in the air how much losing Capel will affect recruiting too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UrinalCake View Post
    Before the OAD rule was put in place, we had maybe two or three guys go straight from high school each year.
    FWIW, the last two years before OAD was instituted were the high school classes of 2004 (at least nine (9) kids went straight to NBA) and 2005 (at least nine (9) kids went straight to NBA). So "two or three" might be a bit low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke95 View Post
    Might be true. Though, if he wins another one between now and then, I think there's a high probability he'll call it a career.
    well, if duke wins another one, that would leave k with 4 empty fingers. he'd have to stay on so he can get rings for those fingers too lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke95 View Post
    There's a significant likelihood that this will be the first post-OAD year (since OAD was instituted). Duke looks to be in the mix for top recruits like RJ Hampton and Isaiah Todd, but I expect we'll see both go pro straight from HS.
    From what I can tell, we're also looking at Nico Mannion and Jeremy Roach. Scottie Barnes is another name I've seen mentioned, but he's a top 10 recruit.
    Actually, the reports just say that it'll be 2020 at the earliest, so it could easily be 2021 or maybe even 2022. I'll be interested in seeing what the NBA owners want during negotiations. If it's something like the baseball system where time spent in the G-League doesn't count towards NBA service time (thus lengthening team control over the player), negotiations could get tricky and break down.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duke95 View Post
    This may be a seismic year in recruiting
    Hopefully Duke does a good job with 2019 recruiting so 2020 recruiting won't have to be so "seismic." I'd like to see sophomores Isaiah Stewart, Joe Girard, Wendell Moore, and Joey Baker to be on the roster already, for example.

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    Might be helpful to start by thinking about who might be on the roster.

    Seniors: Jordan Goldwire, Alex O'Connell
    Juniors: Tre Jones (?)
    Sophomore: Joey Baker, TBD

    The wing and guard position might have decent depth and talent. We'll need a frontcourt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke95 View Post
    I think this is a good point, and one that I find of great interest from an economic perspective as it relates to relevant markets. Of course, there is also the ongoing litigation that may change things considerably.

    So yes, a lot of factors in play for 2020 recruiting. We may end up with a new coach, no amateurism, no OAD rule...or none of those things. Still up in the air how much losing Capel will affect recruiting too.
    Interestingly, Capel leaving may actually signal a longer run for K. I would imagine that Capel was seen as the heir apparent and I wonder if there might have been some pressure for K to retire before Capel left. Now that Capel is at Pitt, there will be a desire to see how things work out there for him to see if he still makes sense as the heir apparent. If that is correct or not, any pressure (real or imagined) created my having Capel have to wait for K to retire, is now gone.

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidBenAkiva View Post
    Might be helpful to start by thinking about who might be on the roster.

    Seniors: Jordan Goldwire, Alex O'Connell
    Juniors: Tre Jones (?)
    Sophomore: Joey Baker, TBD

    The wing and guard position might have decent depth and talent. We'll need a frontcourt.
    While I think that it is certainly possible for Jones to come back for his sophomore season, especially since his brother has taken a few years to really find consistent pt in the nba, I think 3 years is highly unlikely.

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    Duke Offers R.J. Hampton

    The coincidences of life can be a little funny, no? Duke loses one Wendell (Carter) after the 2018 season and quickly targets another Wendell (Moore) for the class of 2019. The top freshman in the country in 2019 will be R.J. (Barrett) and now Duke has offered another R.J. (Hampton) in the class of 2020.

    R.J. Hampton, a 6'4" combo guard from Little Elm, Texas, is, I believe, the first player in the Class of 2020 to receive an offer from the Duke Blue Devils. He's a Nolan Smith type of guard, capable of breaking a man down off the dribble or pulling up for a jump shot. There's a lot of emotion in him on the court, too. He's talking, smiling, clapping hands in a lot of videos. He's a little bigger than Smith but could easily play that role of distributor or move off the ball and still be productive. Hampton is more highly touted than Smith was in his class as Hampton is a Top 5 player in the class (247 composite) at this point in his career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidBenAkiva View Post
    The coincidences of life can be a little funny, no? Duke loses one Wendell (Carter) after the 2018 season and quickly targets another Wendell (Moore) for the class of 2019. The top freshman in the country in 2019 will be R.J. (Barrett) and now Duke has offered another R.J. (Hampton) in the class of 2020.

    Thanks for the info.

    Maybe we are recruiting by first name basis now as a cost containment. Since we seem to be okay with recycling uniform numbers, we could start putting first names/initials on the uniforms and just use the same numbers/names year after year.

    Also, as a senior citizen of the same age as Coach K, I find myself forgetting names. This could help me (and possibly Coach K).

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    A New PG Target: Nico Mannion

    Duke has extended an offer to top 2020 Point Guard Nico Mannion. The 6'3" redhead from Arizona is a Top 25 player in his class, although there are reports that he is considering reclassifying to 2019. He has been trending towards Arizona or another West Coast school for a while and so the offer from Duke is an interesting development. Mannion seems like a consummate playmaker and looks both quick and athletic. The college basketball world might implode if he ever committed a technical foul while wearing a Duke jersey. I would imagine a commitment to Duke would be followed with "the next Duke villain" article in a hot minute. For that alone, I am intrigued.


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    His dad is a former NBA player. That often bodes well for Duke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyClark View Post
    His dad is a former NBA player. That often bodes well for Duke.
    Bronny James is what, Class of '23? When do we start that thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phaedrus View Post
    Bronny James is what, Class of '23? When do we start that thread?
    Bronny is in the same school/class as Kobe Bryant''s son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pghdukie View Post
    Bronny is in the same school/class as Kobe Bryant''s son.
    Might as well get 'em both!
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