This Week in the ACC: 2/12-2/18

[dukelifer]

Every ACC team besides UNC got wrecked in the tournament last season. So unless all ACC coaches stink except Roy Williams...

But, more to the point, FSU's talent wasn't "awesome." XRM was an inefficient/inconsistent PG, and Bacon was a shooting specialist who couldn't shoot. Jonathan Isaac was awesome indeed, but that's not enough.

Looking more and more like UNC has found their mojo- I sure hope they lose it soon or they FF bound.

[Troublemaker]

Looking more and more like UNC has found their mojo- I sure hope they lose it soon or they FF bound.

UNC's looking good but their opponents in the tourney will have something to say about that. Still a projected 3 seed or so at this point.

[dukelifer]

UNC's looking good but their opponents in the tourney will have something to say about that. Still a projected 3 seed or so at this point.

They will get a 2. Berry's experience and competitiveness is a huge plus for them. Clearly anything can happen and they are not deep- but they have all the elements to make a run and Pinson is playing like a McDonald's All American. They are winning by big margins.

[ipatent]

They will get a 2. Berry's experience and competitiveness is a huge plus for them. Clearly anything can happen and they are not deep- but they have all the elements to make a run and Pinson is playing like a McDonald's All American. They are winning by big margins.

Maybe, but there is a lot of basketball left to be played before selection Sunday.

[Troublemaker]

They will get a 2. Berry's experience and competitiveness is a huge plus for them. Clearly anything can happen and they are not deep- but they have all the elements to make a run and Pinson is playing like a McDonald's All American. They are winning by big margins.

Let's make a bet. UNC goes further in the NCAAT than Duke, I ship you a pie. If Duke goes further in the NCAAT than UNC, you ship me a pie.

I've offered this to you before.

[PackMan97]

Let's make a bet. UNC goes further in the NCAAT than Duke, I ship you a pie. If Duke goes further in the NCAAT than UNC, you ship me a pie.

I've offered this to you before.

how about if Duke or Carolina fo further than State, you both ship me a pie?

[CDu]

They will get a 2. Berry's experience and competitiveness is a huge plus for them. Clearly anything can happen and they are not deep- but they have all the elements to make a run and Pinson is playing like a McDonald's All American. They are winning by big margins.

They won’t get a 2 if they lose 2 more, and they project to lose two more. Nine losses is a lot, especially with so many major conference teams at 6 or less.

[richardjackson199]

They won’t get a 2 if they lose 2 more, and they project to lose two more. Nine losses is a lot, especially with so many major conference teams at 6 or less.

Hopefully they lose 2 more to Duke before Selection Sunday, causing Wheat to push the pie bet with Jason. It could happen.

The Cheats have been scoring a lot of points in recent games for a few weeks now. The focus next time needs to be on defense, rebounding, and getting stops.

It's tough because they have lots of players who can shoot and put up lots of points - Cam Johnson has been a problem, Kenny Williams has been much improved, Maye, and Berry obviously. Stopping those 4, getting back very quickly on D, and finishing the possession with a defensive rebound is necessary to beat the cheats. As has been stated many times - it's the opposite from last year when they couldn't shoot but were monsters inside (Meeks, Hicks, Bradley, and even Jackson were good around the rim).

Can't wait to take them down in Cameron, hopefully by a lot.

[gofurman]

Hopefully they lose 2 more to Duke before Selection Sunday, causing Wheat to push the pie bet with Jason. It could happen.

The Cheats have been scoring a lot of points in recent games for a few weeks now. The focus next time needs to be on defense, rebounding, and getting stops.

It's tough because they have lots of players who can shoot and put up lots of points - Cam Johnson has been a problem, Kenny Williams has been much improved, Maye, and Berry obviously. Stopping those 4, getting back very quickly on D, and finishing the possession with a defensive rebound is necessary to beat the cheats. As has been stated many times - it's the opposite from last year when they couldn't shoot but were monsters inside (Meeks, Hicks, Bradley, and even Jackson were good around the rim).

Can't wait to take them down in Cameron, hopefully by a lot.

Unc is improving. Esp on o. As said, Berry is a great PG. shoots threes, passes. Drives. Just killed Louisville. Maye does Matt harping work. And that kills me because he made up for a good bit of what they lost up,front. He gets a ton of put backs. Seems to know where to be. Always around the rim tipping ball. The X factors have become Cam Johnson who was hurt at start of year ... Good three shooter and now Williams. Now they have four threats when they started w two (Berry and Maye). Louisville and others have had no answer to stop unc recently. You can still score on UNC but their o is getting v good ! And I hate that , let's beat em. I really don't want a team of Luke Maye and Cam Johnson etc going farther than ours ...

[wobatus]

They will get a 2. Berry's experience and competitiveness is a huge plus for them. Clearly anything can happen and they are not deep- but they have all the elements to make a run and Pinson is playing like a McDonald's All American. They are winning by big margins.

http://barttorvik.com/tourneycast.php

[Saratoga2]

Unc is improving. Esp on o. As said, Berry is a great PG. shoots threes, passes. Drives. Just killed Louisville. Maye does Matt harping work. And that kills me because he made up for a good bit of what they lost up,front. He gets a ton of put backs. Seems to know where to be. Always around the rim tipping ball. The X factors have become Cam Johnson who was hurt at start of year ... Good three shooter and now Williams. Now they have four threats when they started w two (Berry and Maye). Louisville and others have had no answer to stop unc recently. You can still score on UNC but their o is getting v good ! And I hate that , let's beat em. I really don't want a team of Luke Maye and Cam Johnson etc going farther than ours ...

Louisville played poorly throughout the game.

[dukelifer]

Let's make a bet. UNC goes further in the NCAAT than Duke, I ship you a pie. If Duke goes further in the NCAAT than UNC, you ship me a pie.

I've offered this to you before.

Hmmm. Need to think about this one.

[wobatus]

http://barttorvik.com/tourneycast.php

Sorry bad link. Basically his tourney simulations project UNC as a 1.9 seed. Same as Duke. Projects Virginia as 50% odds of making the Final 4, 23% champs. Duke about 31% FF and 9% title. UNC 16.4% FF odds, 2.7% title. FWIW.

Michigan State will be tough. Cincy a nice change of pace. 'Nova would make them a mini-dynasty. Could someone pull a UConn 2014 surprise?

[PackMan97]

Every ACC team besides UNC got wrecked in the tournament last season. So unless all ACC coaches stink except Roy Williams...

Not every ACC team. NC State was undefeated in the NCAAT the past two seasons. :/

[ncexnyc]

Not sure what to say about the Cheats recent run. Quite a few people on this forum wrote them off when they lost three straight, but then that shouldn't have surprised me as people have been writing them off these past few years.

Despite the fun fodder Ol' Roy provides us with on a yearly basis the man can obviously coach and his kids buy into whatever it is he's selling. If anyone doubts that experience counts, then you just having been watching the Cheats over the past few years. Their team is top heavy again this year and as I stated earlier this season they just needed that third scorer to solidify their team and both Williams and Johnson seem to be that guy, which is even worse. Their ability to spread you out has made Pinson an even bigger weapon as he is quite adept at taking his man off the dribble. That feeds into their pack rebounding mentality as there's plenty of room for the smaller players to find openings to the basket for boards.

Considering who they've beaten during their recent run I'd be very skeptical of stating, "There's plenty of basketball left" and, "They're projected to lose X amount more." Barring a major injury, this team is a very dangerous, experienced team that is FF capable.

[devildeac]

Am I allowed to cheer for Yum, Hurricane or Yum, Flood today instead of Ymm, Beer and hope for a double forfeit?

Perhaps -jk was correct when he privately suggested I should have posted/suggested Yum, Meteor for this contest.