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    Bagley, Carter, and Trent chasing Duke freshman history

    I wanted to wait a bit before starting this thread to see what would transpire over the course of the season, but it looks like if Bagley continues to put up the #'s he's averaging, he will be joining some elite freshman company at Duke & maybe in the ACC (hopefully more of that to come later on during the season.)

    I had to do some digging from thread's from a few year's back, as well as update list's in terms of freshamn point's and rebound's, but as of now (as long as what they have on the team's website includes his #'s from today's game against Wake) here is the list's of most points and rebounds recorded by freshman in Duke basketball history.

    He has a way to go in both list's before getting into the top-10, but within the next month he could be there.

    Points: (Duke)
    Jabari Parker- 670
    Jahlil Okafor – 657
    Brandon Ingram - 624
    Gene Banks - 581
    Luol Deng - 558
    Austin Rivers - 527
    Johnny Dawkins - 506
    JJ Redick- 495
    Jason Williams - 492
    Justice Winslow- 492
    Jayson Tatum - 488
    Tyus Jones - 461
    Kyle Singler - 451
    Luke Kennard - 425
    Bagley - 353

    Rebounds: (Duke)
    Jahlil Okafor - 322
    Jabari Parker-306
    Gene Banks-292
    Mike Gminski-289
    Luol Deng-255
    Justise Winslow-252
    Brandon Ingram -244
    Shane Battier-230
    Danny Ferry-221
    Kenny Dennard-215
    Jayson Tatum-213
    Carlos Boozer-213
    Kyle Singler-198
    Josh McRoberts-189
    Bagley - 188

    I know this may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I always like to chart things like this when we have a freshman that is putting up amazing number's.

    *Note if anyone finds data of other players that I may have missed, or number's that are not on these list's please feel free to make changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksimp112 View Post
    I wanted to wait a bit before starting this thread to see what would transpire over the course of the season, but it looks like if Bagley continues to put up the #'s he's averaging, he will be joining some elite freshman company at Duke & maybe in the ACC (hopefully more of that to come later on during the season.)

    I had to do some digging from thread's from a few year's back, as well as update list's in terms of freshamn point's and rebound's, but as of now (as long as what they have on the team's website includes his #'s from today's game against Wake) here is the list's of most points and rebounds recorded by freshman in Duke basketball history.

    He has a way to go in both list's before getting into the top-10, but within the next month he could be there.

    Points: (Duke)
    Jabari Parker- 670
    Jahlil Okafor – 657
    Brandon Ingram - 624
    Gene Banks - 581
    Luol Deng - 558
    Austin Rivers - 527
    Johnny Dawkins - 506
    JJ Redick- 495
    Jason Williams - 492
    Justice Winslow- 492
    Jayson Tatum - 488
    Tyus Jones - 461
    Kyle Singler - 451
    Luke Kennard - 425
    Bagley - 353

    Rebounds: (Duke)
    Jahlil Okafor - 322
    Jabari Parker-306
    Gene Banks-292
    Mike Gminski-289
    Luol Deng-255
    Justise Winslow-252
    Brandon Ingram -244
    Shane Battier-230
    Danny Ferry-221
    Kenny Dennard-215
    Jayson Tatum-213
    Carlos Boozer-213
    Kyle Singler-198
    Josh McRoberts-189
    Bagley - 188

    I know this may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I always like to chart things like this when we have a freshman that is putting up amazing number's.

    *Note if anyone finds data of other players that I may have missed, or number's that are not on these list's please feel free to make changes.

    Dang... I forgot how good Jabari was, 1st in points and 2nd in rebounds.
    "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge" -Stephen Hawking

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    Quote Originally Posted by JNort View Post
    Dang... I forgot how good Jabari was, 1st in points and 2nd in rebounds.
    and 1st in Fr. rebs when he left Duke. Jahlil came along after, and set a new record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JNort View Post
    Dang... I forgot how good Jabari was, 1st in points and 2nd in rebounds.
    I guess it comes with the territory of being a OAD and getting bounced in the first round of the big dance.

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    I'm much (MUCH!) more impressed that Gene Banks was #1 in both for about 35 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JNort View Post
    Dang... I forgot how good Jabari was, 1st in points and 2nd in rebounds.
    Left a lot to desire on defense

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    Quote Originally Posted by dudog84 View Post
    I'm much (MUCH!) more impressed that Gene Banks was #1 in both for about 35 years.
    Me too-- that is really quite impressive (as was Gene Banks).

    Meanwhile, the front page article notes that today Bagley tied Parker's record for freshman double double games, at 14--so he is likely to pulverize that.

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    He also has a better than awful shot at breaking the Duke career dunks record. In one year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDu View Post
    He also has a better than awful shot at breaking the Duke career dunks record. In one year.
    Wait, nevermind. I misread. He has no chance at Plumlee’s career mark of 217. But he should obliterate Plumlee’s single-season mark of 87, and has a decent chance of making top-5 all-time at Duke even with the one year..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksimp112 View Post
    I wanted to wait a bit before starting this thread to see what would transpire over the course of the season, but it looks like if Bagley continues to put up the #'s he's averaging, he will be joining some elite freshman company at Duke & maybe in the ACC (hopefully more of that to come later on during the season.)

    I had to do some digging from thread's from a few year's back, as well as update list's in terms of freshamn point's and rebound's, but as of now (as long as what they have on the team's website includes his #'s from today's game against Wake) here is the list's of most points and rebounds recorded by freshman in Duke basketball history.

    He has a way to go in both list's before getting into the top-10, but within the next month he could be there.

    Points: (Duke)
    Jabari Parker- 670
    Jahlil Okafor – 657
    Brandon Ingram - 624
    Gene Banks - 581
    Luol Deng - 558
    Austin Rivers - 527
    Johnny Dawkins - 506
    JJ Redick- 495
    Jason Williams - 492
    Justice Winslow- 492
    Jayson Tatum - 488
    Tyus Jones - 461
    Kyle Singler - 451
    Luke Kennard - 425
    Bagley - 353

    Rebounds: (Duke)
    Jahlil Okafor - 322
    Jabari Parker-306
    Gene Banks-292
    Mike Gminski-289
    Luol Deng-255
    Justise Winslow-252
    Brandon Ingram -244
    Shane Battier-230
    Danny Ferry-221
    Kenny Dennard-215
    Jayson Tatum-213
    Carlos Boozer-213
    Kyle Singler-198
    Josh McRoberts-189
    Bagley - 188

    I know this may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I always like to chart things like this when we have a freshman that is putting up amazing number's.

    *Note if anyone finds data of other players that I may have missed, or number's that are not on these list's please feel free to make changes.

    Wait, so Shelden Williams isn't in the top ten in frosh rebounds?

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    I'm seeing 195 total rebounds for Shelden's freshman year on https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb...illiams-1.html

    So he should appear ahead of McRoberts on the list but not top ten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by throatybeard View Post
    Wait, so Shelden Williams isn't in the top ten in frosh rebounds?
    He didn't become The Landlord until his sophomore year. Freshman year he was just an RA.

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    Wow, makes his career totals even more impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by throatybeard View Post
    Wow, makes his career totals even more impressive.
    Same with Gminski, who graduated as the all-time scorer at Duke but apparently not in the top ten of freshman years. (?)

    I think he has 414, so still ahead of Bagley. Am I wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by throatybeard View Post
    Wait, so Shelden Williams isn't in the top ten in frosh rebounds?
    Boozers 443 points his freshman year should also have him listed. I suspect this list of leading scorers and rebounders may be missing a few folks along the way. Still, a good list to have and I bet it is more accurate at the top.
    Why are you wasting time here when you could be wasting it by listening to the latest episode of the DBR Podcast?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post
    Boozers 443 points his freshman year should also have him listed. I suspect this list of leading scorers and rebounders may be missing a few folks along the way. Still, a good list to have and I bet it is more accurate at the top.
    Agreed, and props to ksimp112 for putting it together. I imagine he would accept some friendly amendments.

    This will be interesting to track.

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    It really is shocking that with the season he's having, Bagley isn't the super runaway national freshman of the year, but there's no denying the year that Young is having (I see no point in arguing about who is better, both are having ludicrously good years).

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    Added the missing players that were pointed out to the lists.

    Points: (Duke)
    Jabari Parker- 670
    Jahlil Okafor – 657
    Brandon Ingram - 624
    Gene Banks - 581
    Luol Deng - 558
    Austin Rivers - 527
    Johnny Dawkins - 506
    JJ Redick- 495
    Jason Williams - 492
    Justice Winslow- 492
    Jayson Tatum - 488
    Tyus Jones - 461
    Kyle Singler - 451
    Carlos Boozer - 443
    Luke Kennard - 425
    Mike Gminski - 414
    Bagley - 353

    Rebounds: (Duke)
    Jahlil Okafor - 322
    Jabari Parker-306
    Gene Banks-292
    Mike Gminski-289
    Luol Deng-255
    Justise Winslow-252
    Brandon Ingram -244
    Shane Battier-230
    Danny Ferry-221
    Kenny Dennard-215
    Jayson Tatum-213
    Carlos Boozer-213
    Kyle Singler-198
    Shelden Williams - 195
    Josh McRoberts-189
    Bagley - 188

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    This is like the Kyrie Irving season we did not get to watch, except that Bagley may be better.

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    Updated list heading into Pitt game tomorrow.

    Points: (Duke)
    1. Jabari Parker- 670
    2. Jahlil Okafor – 657
    3. Brandon Ingram - 624
    4. Gene Banks - 581
    5. Luol Deng - 558
    6. Austin Rivers - 527
    7. Johnny Dawkins - 506
    8. JJ Redick- 495
    9. Jason Williams - 492
    9. Justice Winslow- 492
    10. Jayson Tatum - 488
    Tyus Jones - 461
    Kyle Singler - 451
    Carlos Boozer - 443
    Luke Kennard - 425
    Mike Gminski - 414
    Bagley - 383

    Rebounds: (Duke)
    1. Jahlil Okafor - 322
    2. Jabari Parker-306
    3. Gene Banks-292
    4. Mike Gminski-289
    5. Luol Deng-255
    6. Justise Winslow-252
    7, Brandon Ingram -244
    8. Shane Battier-230
    9. Danny Ferry-221
    10. Kenny Dennard-215
    Jayson Tatum-213
    Carlos Boozer-213
    Bagley - 199
    Kyle Singler-198
    Shelden Williams - 195
    Josh McRoberts-189

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