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  1. #1
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    Props to Jim Sumner

    That was a nice writeup.

    Thanks for taking the time to give us an up-close look. I'm really looking forward to seeing this team develop.

    -j"speaking solely as myself and not a Mod"k

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    Ditto

    Jim's stuff is always worthwhile.

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    Ditto

    Excellent report, Jim!

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    http://www.dukebasketballreport.com/articles/?p=23645

    Jim, am I reading too much into it?

    Seemed to me you were almost saying starting lineup may be:

    Nolan Smith
    Greg Paulus
    Demarcus Nelson
    Kyle Singler
    Lance or Zoubek

    with Henderson and Scheyer playing significant roles off the bench, and all 11 including McClure,King and Marty seeing quite a bit of action.

    Having the two best on the ball defenders in the starting lineup along with two guys able to guard 1-5 in Singler and Lance, plus Paulus who is quicker now on defense and best shooter (I am assuming Taylor King probably has better range and accuracy though).

    Both Nelson and K continue to emphasize how valuable it is to have depth in practice so that everybody has to go all out, with no need for captain or coach to cheer lead or admonish, at least not for lack of effort.

    Nelson also mentioned that King may play 4 and 5 some.

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    I must have missed one of Jim's. Can someone direct me to it?

  6. #6
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    It's an article, not a post. Check the DBR headlines.

    That was great, Jim. Well-written and informative.

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    I'm pretty sure Duke doesn't know what the starting lineup will be so I don't. At this point, I think we can pencil Singler and Nelson in. I think Thomas is a clear favorite over Zoubek until BZ's conditioning improves. But maybe neither starts. Unlikely, IMO, but not impossible. Henderson, Paulus, Scheyer, and Smith are likely fighting for the other two spots, with at least one of Paulus and Smith starting.

    Who knows where McClure will be when he gets 100%. King is the wild card for me. Everybody just raves about his shooting. He definitely seems to have a shooters mentality. Miss 10 in a row and that means the next 10 have to go in. But does King play ahead of Singler? Not likely. Henderson, Scheyer, Thomas? I just don't know. He may play 30 mpg, he may languish on the bench.

    I suspect we're going to see some experimentation with PT, with combinations, with sets. Think 1991,1998, or 2003. The rotation will almost certainly compress come February and March but until then, I really thinkg we'll see lots of guys playing, with lots of substitutions.

    My gut feeling is that K's work with the national team has energized him. He seems genuinely enthusiastic about the season, his team, and where he is right now. He did indicate that his health was good and he didn't see retirement anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimsumner View Post
    I'm pretty sure Duke doesn't know what the starting lineup will be so I don't. At this point, I think we can pencil Singler and Nelson in. I think Thomas is a clear favorite over Zoubek until BZ's conditioning improves. But maybe neither starts. Unlikely, IMO, but not impossible. Henderson, Paulus, Scheyer, and Smith are likely fighting for the other two spots, with at least one of Paulus and Smith starting.

    Who knows where McClure will be when he gets 100%. King is the wild card for me. Everybody just raves about his shooting. He definitely seems to have a shooters mentality. Miss 10 in a row and that means the next 10 have to go in. But does King play ahead of Singler? Not likely. Henderson, Scheyer, Thomas? I just don't know. He may play 30 mpg, he may languish on the bench.

    I suspect we're going to see some experimentation with PT, with combinations, with sets. Think 1991,1998, or 2003. The rotation will almost certainly compress come February and March but until then, I really thinkg we'll see lots of guys playing, with lots of substitutions.

    My gut feeling is that K's work with the national team has energized him. He seems genuinely enthusiastic about the season, his team, and where he is right now. He did indicate that his health was good and he didn't see retirement anytime soon.
    I suspect you're right and that we'll see more experimentation with the lineup early than we have since the 1997-1998 season. There is just so much youth and such a variety of skill sets that it will probably take time (and game competition) to sort out what works best.

    If nothing else, this should be a fun year to watch. For the first time in a long time there just aren't any expectations of this team. There's talent, but last year's late-season fizzle may afford this team the opportunity to be under the radar for once.

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    I expect that eight players will start at some time or another for Duke this season. You can hold me to that.

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    Is it legal to start eight players? If so, we will probably do OK this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgtr View Post
    Is it legal to start eight players? If so, we will probably do OK this year.
    Far too many people terp that we always start eight guys on the court.
    Last edited by DU82; 10-22-2007 at 08:26 PM.

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    I still believe once we get into league play and ...

    we have a set back or two we will revert to a 7 or 8 man rotation. It's hard to break old habits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilsfan View Post
    we have a set back or two we will revert to a 7 or 8 man rotation. It's hard to break old habits.
    If for no other reason than post players fouling out, I think Duke plays a minimum of 8 man rotation.

    Let;s say for sake of example, Duke starts

    Nolan whose on the ball defense is key to playing up tempo
    Nelson
    Henderson (or Paulus or Scheyer)
    Singler
    Lance

    You can be pretty sure that K will play Paulus, Scheyer and McClure almost as much as the hypothetical starters, all of whom could help Mark Watzone's prediction of 8 different starters.

    Could go either way for King who may be too big a weapon to sit if he can continue to successfully box out Zoubek in drills.

    Marty and Zoubek are also wild cards, but hard to imagine not playing the tallest and heaviest guy at least sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mapei View Post
    It's an article, not a post. Check the DBR headlines.

    That was great, Jim. Well-written and informative.
    thanks, i will

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