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    NCAA Allows Referee to Officiate Consecutive Gonzaga NCAAT Games

    Not sure how it happened, but official Jeff Clark was allowed to referee consecutive NCAAT games involving Gonzaga this season(3/16 vs. S. Dakota St. and 3/18 vs. Northwestern). The NCAAT is a multi-billion dollar event, so funding shouldn't be an issue. There weren't blizzard conditions in Salt Lake City from 3/16-18 preventing different referees from reaching the arena. Usually the officiating crew has at least one replacement ref on site for injury/illness situations. I'm not saying this referee's presence aided Gonzaga in any way/shape/form, although the non-goal tending call and subsequent T on Coach Collins in the Gonzaga-Northwestern game were notable events. I wouldn't think this situation(same referee officiates consective games of the same team)would generally be allowed even in high school competition. Any thoughts? Thanks!

    http://natstat.com/mbb/officials/jeff-clark

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    Don't know

    But the refereeing in the Gonzaga NU game was awful. All the news was on the missed goaltend and ensuing tech on Collins, but the officiating was bad the whole game.

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    First, let's establish that this is unusual. I don't know that it is.

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    Officials advance in the Tournament also.
    Of the initial group of 12 officials at a tourney site in the Round of 64, only the best 6 will advance to the Round of 32.
    The first weekend, it is very likely that referees may work the same team twice in those two games.

    This is not unusual.

    According to http://phillyref.com/basketball/postseasonmen.html there were 13 instances of refs being assigned to the same team twice in the first weekend of the 2017 Tournament.

    Jeff Clark - Gonzaga
    Ron Groover - Arizona
    Gregory Nixon - Wisconsin
    Paul Szelc - Notre Dame
    Brian O'Connell - Kentucky
    Earl Walton - Purdue
    Larry Scirotto - Florida
    Timothy Clougherty - Florida State
    Terry Oglesby - Oregon
    William Covington Jr. - Oregon
    Verne Harris - Cincinnati
    Lee Cassell - Cincinnati
    Joseph Lindsay - USC

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    Quote Originally Posted by MChambers View Post
    But the refereeing in the Gonzaga NU game was awful. All the news was on the missed goaltend and ensuing tech on Collins, but the officiating was bad the whole game.
    None of the three officials (Chris Rastatter, Jeff Clark, Brent Hampton) advanced to the next round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troublemaker View Post
    First, let's establish that this is unusual. I don't know that it is.
    There definitely has been an unusual amount of bad officiating in this tournament in my opinion. A TON of games have been poorly officiated, and many of them were decided by bad calls down the stretch. John Higgins' family is still getting death threats from UK fans (that's not a joke). It's been a weird tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kAzE View Post
    There definitely has been an unusual amount of bad officiating in this tournament in my opinion. A TON of games have been poorly officiated, and many of them were decided by bad calls down the stretch. John Higgins' family is still getting death threats from UK fans (that's not a joke). It's been a weird tournament.
    I think he was asking whether reffing for the same team twice is unusual - turns out that it is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troublemaker View Post
    First, let's establish that this is unusual ...
    Lenny Wirtz or Dick Paparo refereed every Duke game for my four undergrad years, it seems.

    (I don't recall it being discussed on this board that Lenny died in the fall of 2013 -- might've been and it just escapes my recall. Here's a short item about him: http://www.cincinnati.com/story/spor...story/7397157/)
    Last edited by Reilly; 03-28-2017 at 02:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue KevIL View Post
    None of the three officials (Chris Rastatter, Jeff Clark, Brent Hampton) advanced to the next round.
    Not surprising. After the obvious botched call on the goaltend by Gonzaga, I assumed that would be the end of that crew's Tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reilly View Post
    Lenny Wirtz or Dick Paparo refereed every Duke game for my four undergrad years, it seems.

    (I don't recall it being discussed on this board that Lenny died in the fall of 2013 -- might've been and it just escapes my recall. Here's a short item about him: http://www.cincinnati.com/story/spor...story/7397157/)
    I missed that news about Lenny. While we certainly complained about his reffing, I never felt he was biased. Dick or Karl, on the other hand...

    (And thanks to -jk for starting the great "Richard, you suck" cheer back in the day.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DU82 View Post
    I missed that news about Lenny. While we certainly complained about his reffing, I never felt he was biased. Dick or Karl, on the other hand...

    (And thanks to -jk for starting the great "Richard, you suck" cheer back in the day.)
    I guess the real question is did the refs from the Duke USC game advance to the next round? i don't think so?
    https://twitter.com/DukeMBB/status/1015033823711711237

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    For somebody like me, coming down on a fast break, an in-and-out crossover, and that moment where I jump and glide to the rim and lay it in, for me, its like poetry in motion, he said. I feel like I was in slow motion, and its just poetry. Salisbury Post 12.20.18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke76 View Post
    I guess the real question is did the refs from the Duke USC game advance to the next round? i don't think so?
    Mike Reed officiated the unc-UK game. Still searching for an appearance of David Hall or Doug Sirmons after the Duke-South Carolina game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanarkel View Post
    Mike Reed officiated the unc-UK game. Still searching for an appearance of David Hall or Doug Sirmons after the Duke-South Carolina game.
    Sirmons did the Kansas-Purdue game.

    Hall did the CBI quarterfinal between UMKC & Wyoming on 3/20.

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