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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by budwom View Post
    A friend of mine teaches English at Vassar, and he's told me about some very nice software used these days to detect purloined work, quite effective he tells me.
    A common one is "Turnitin," which looks for plagiarism. I've found, however, it often gives false positives. (Wouldn't pick up on using someone else's paper, though, I think - unless on the internet somewhere.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgtr View Post
    The weirdest thing I came across in many years of teaching was the student who turned in a carbon copy (obviously quite a few years ago) of a paper which: Bore no relationship to the subject assigned, was obviously a carbon copy, still had another student's name on it, and still had the original class title for which it had been written, and had the submitting student's name written across the top of page 1.
    As Robert Benchley wrote, I just laughed and pushed her off the stage! I still laugh at the whole thing. In the spirit, I returned the paper with a grade of D. Since the student had no passing grade on any assignment, the D didn't help him. I never saw the student again.
    At best, she was just stupid and careless. At worse, add unethical to the mix. Either way an awful combination.

    One question (as a newish member of the Academy - 5 years and now post "retirement.") Why not an F? (Actually sounds like grounds for suspension, expulsion in the extreme.

    Perhaps she had a family issue or similar that drove her to this stupid action. Desperation and panic lead one to do dumb things. We've seen that in some of the white collar crime and fraud cases. Not an excuse...just a rationale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duke74 View Post

    One question (as a newish member of the Academy - 5 years and now post "retirement.") Why not an F? (Actually sounds like grounds for suspension, expulsion in the extreme.
    I guess I gave the student a little slack, since it was clear that he wouldn't be around for long. There had been two midterms which he failed miserably, so he was going to fail the class. The whole thing was so ludicrous there was no need to rub it in. Plus I got a really good story out of it.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by mgtr View Post
    The weirdest thing I came across in many years of teaching was the student who turned in a carbon copy (obviously quite a few years ago) of a paper which: Bore no relationship to the subject assigned, was obviously a carbon copy, still had another student's name on it, and still had the original class title for which it had been written, and had the submitting student's name written across the top of page 1.
    As Robert Benchley wrote, I just laughed and pushed her off the stage! I still laugh at the whole thing. In the spirit, I returned the paper with a grade of D. Since the student had no passing grade on any assignment, the D didn't help him. I never saw the student again.
    One of my best friends taught at North Carolina Wesleyan College in Rocky Mount back in the 1970s. He called me up one day and said he had something I had to see.

    He had assigned a paper on various religious figures in history. One student drew Martin Luther -- but his paper confused Martin Luther with Martin Luther King. The student apparently saw no conflict in the guy leading the Protestant Reformation in the early 16th Century, then hanging around to lead the Civil Rights movement midway through the 20th Century.

    We got a big laugh ... but it was sobering to think that student graduated from high school and was actually in college.

    My friend and I had a lot of fun afterwards figuring out other combined biographies -- the obvious one was Grover Cleveland -- the 22nd and 24th President of the United States, who may have fathered a child out of wedlock ("Ma, ma, where's my pa ... gone to the White House, ha, ha, ha"), then in retirement, pitched for the Phillies, Cubs and Cardinals, winning 373 games and striking out Tony Lazzeri with the bases loaded in the key moment in the seventh game of the 1926 World Series!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympic Fan View Post
    One of my best friends taught at North Carolina Wesleyan College in Rocky Mount back in the 1970s. He called me up one day and said he had something I had to see.

    He had assigned a paper on various religious figures in history. One student drew Martin Luther -- but his paper confused Martin Luther with Martin Luther King. The student apparently saw no conflict in the guy leading the Protestant Reformation in the early 16th Century, then hanging around to lead the Civil Rights movement midway through the 20th Century.

    We got a big laugh ... but it was sobering to think that student graduated from high school and was actually in college.

    My friend and I had a lot of fun afterwards figuring out other combined biographies -- the obvious one was Grover Cleveland -- the 22nd and 24th President of the United States, who may have fathered a child out of wedlock ("Ma, ma, where's my pa ... gone to the White House, ha, ha, ha"), then in retirement, pitched for the Phillies, Cubs and Cardinals, winning 373 games and striking out Tony Lazzeri with the bases loaded in the key moment in the seventh game of the 1926 World Series!
    And of course George Washington was both the father of our country (and a slave owner) and an African-American man who found countless uses for the peanut years later

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyNotCrazie View Post
    And of course George Washington was both the father of our country (and a slave owner) and an African-American man who found countless uses for the peanut years later
    And John Wayne Gacy was both a movie star and a serial killer.

    And Jeb Stuart Magruder served both in the Civil War and in the Nixon Administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympic Fan View Post
    My friend and I had a lot of fun afterwards figuring out other combined biographies...
    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyNotCrazie View Post
    And of course George Washington was both the father of our country (and a slave owner) and an African-American man who found countless uses for the peanut years later
    Quote Originally Posted by rasputin View Post
    And John Wayne Gacy was both a movie star and a serial killer.

    And Jeb Stuart Magruder served both in the Civil War and in the Nixon Administration.
    Tommy Lee Jones has made a lot of movies, including one private video I have no interest in seeing.

    Trivia: can you think of another example where the older person won a Pulitzer and the younger person was honored with a Pulitzer 24 years later?

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    Ya'll are not playing fair by using middle names. Here are some great ones where the names perfectly match up.

    Steve McQueen somehow went from being a great actor in the 1960s and 70s to a great director today. I don't know why he didn't cast himself in 12 Years a Slave.

    Jackie Gleason was great in the Honeymooners, but I really did not like his character when he played Joffry on Game of Thrones.

    I was so glad to see that Brian Wilson had conquered his shyness enough from his Beach Boys days to become a fantastically bearded relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.

    When Adam Scott isn't busy making us laugh on Parks and Rec, he's teeing it up and winning the Masters.

    Did you know that after he broke up with Art Garfunkel, Paul Simon became a United States Senator?

    I'm convinced that Dave Thomas took all the money he made from owning Wendy's and sunk it into promoting his comedic partnership with Rick Moranis.

    -Jason "I'm sure there are more... kinda fun" Evans
    Why are you wasting time here when you could be wasting it by listening to the latest episode of the DBR Podcast?

  9. #29
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    That cloud of smoke you see down the road is the exhaust from my thread being hijacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duke74 View Post
    That cloud of smoke you see down the road is the exhaust from my thread being hijacked.
    But they are providing a chuckle - so perhaps just a fork in the road and not a hijack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DukieInKansas View Post
    But they are providing a chuckle - so perhaps just a fork in the road and not a hijack.
    Or perhaps, more accurately, a detour?

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by duke74 View Post
    Or perhaps, more accurately, a detour?
    True. As long as it isn't down a dirt road. My father always taught us that there was no sense going down a dirt road. (Although, I must admit, they can be fun.

    Since I used "taught" does this get us off the detour?

  13. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by duke74 View Post
    That cloud of smoke you see down the road is the exhaust from my thread being hijacked.
    Heck, just wait for the puns to kick in at full force.

    If I can find the time in the next day or so (and if I can remember to do it), I can help put the thread back on the track it deserves by posting some pretty scary incidents I had teaching future dentists. Pretty scary because it exposes the idiocy I had to put up with, both by the students and the faculty, including Deans; and because these idiots have the ability to, and do, kill people!

    ricks

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