Notre Dame?
UConn?
j/k
Most programs are easy to classify as such. But there are a few I feel defy classification. What do y'all think about:
California
Virginia
Minnesota
Purdue
Georgia Tech
Or any others that you have to think about for more than 5 seconds.
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Notre Dame?
UConn?
j/k
IMO, in order
football
neither
basketball
neither
football
Just going by attendance figures, I'd say football, football, football, football, and football. Pretty much every student, for example, goes to Cal and Virginia football games - far fewer go to basketball games (although Virginia's new stadium is changing that)...
Notre Dame can't be anything but a FB school and UConn is a BB school.
What does "neither" mean? "I can't decide," or "I think they suck at both."
I reject the second interpretation. Mississippi State sucks at FB and is decidely a FB school because FB is the game of the Deep South. You can suck at FB and still be a FB school. Look at South Carolina historically.
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Some questions cannot be answered
Who’s gonna bury who
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---Over the Rhine
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---Roger Ebert
Some questions cannot be answered
Who’s gonna bury who
We need a love like Johnny, Johnny and June
---Over the Rhine
California-football
Virginia-basketball
Minnesota-hockey
Purdue-basketball
Georgia Tech-football
IMO
I think these are really good answers. I was waiting for someone to say Hockey for Minnesota. I believe GT is a FB school due to [nominal] Deep South location and history (4 Natl Champs, last in 1990). Cremins made them something more than nothing in BB.
Virginia is still the one I have the most trouble with.
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Some questions cannot be answered
Who’s gonna bury who
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Can we make a poll out of this?
California - football
Virginia - bball traditionally, now equal
Minnesota - would have said football...but I what someone else said: hockey
Purdue - basketball
Georgia Tech - tough call...bball, although the fans may care more about football...its close
I would also say there is a difference between "traditionally" vs "now" for some of these schools which can make it hard to weigh...
GIT has the 222-0 game and Cal has the THE BAND IS ON THE FIELD!!! play, so they have to be football schools.
BTW, Cal's football facility is a complete dump. They're the best state school in the country, with oodles of rich alumni, a program that wins, a legacy of pulling off the greatest single play in North American sports history (which occurred within the lifetime of most adults)... and their place is rotting away, literally. The top row does have a spendid view of the Bay Area, though.
Here's a tougher one: What's Pitt? Tony Dorsett... Dan Marino... basketball school?
Virginia is absolutely a football school. Having spent three years in Charlottesville, I can tell you that the surrounding community is much more invested in the football team than the basketball team. Virginia may have more historical success in basketball, but it's still a southern(-esque) city, and as such, it loves its football. Or maybe it's just that Pete Gillen destroyed everyone's hope in the basketball team.
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I'd call Virginia a men's soccer school. With Carolina, of course, being a women's soccer school.
I think it is possible to be both. it doesn't always have to be one or the other.
I'd have to consider myself a football fan at a basketball school, so let me ask a question that suggests the only primacy football might seek here. Since 1980, which is more remarkable, Duke Football's failure, or Duke Men's Basketball's success? Sorry if it's an ugly question, but I can't get it out of my head. For variations, change the start date, which is fairly arbitrary. Say, 1990? 1995?
If I just said "basketball," Gail would bail us out for sure. Otherwise, I guess I'll give three championships their due, but for me it's a tight race against 4 winless seasons. I'd love to see both teams make the question a no-brainer in the next couple of years.
Actually, they aren't Berkeley kids. I was there last week and they're professional protestors, and admittedly so. One of the signs asking for donations was soliciting "penut butter" -- obviously not a Berkeley student.
The building project includes additional parking along with additions to the law and business schools. That said, parking will still be tight (on campus parking on game days costs $25). The project also includes major renovations to team and training rooms for a number of sports within the stadium complex.
That is because Cameron can only seat 9,314. These schools don't sell out their basketball stadiums like Duke does. If Cameron was larger than WW, there is no doubt in my mind that more people would pay to watch basketball games than football games even though there are way more BB games.
I was just trying to say that for the average student at these particular schools, I feel like going to football games is a very standard thing for everybody to do, while the majority of the student body goes to hardly any bball games. I would even argue that most students go to more football games (usually around 6 home games a year) than basketball games, even though there are a ton more bball games. A friend of mine at Virginia, for example, went to every single home football game, but only around 2 b-ball games a year. Maybe he is an anomaly though...I just feel that, overall, football is much more popular than basketball in this country except for in March (and Feb since college football has ended by then). Just my opinion...
How many true basketball schools are there that have Football Bowl Subdivision (formerly 1-A) teams? Not many, I'd wager, outside the ACC and Big East conferences. The first five that came to my mind are:
Kentucky
Kansas
Indiana
Temple
UCLA (Is UCLA a basketball school?)
There are surely others . . .
Um, yes. Their athletic program is excellent across the board, but fair or not, that John Wooden guy still has a good bit of currency.
What about Stanford? Granted, their football team stinks right now, but Jim Harbaugh is working on that. There's tradition there too, with Rose Bowls and John Elway. Also, the basketball team's recent successes have been somewhat remarkable for that school (and have also taken a bit of a dip in the last couple of years).
Also Oregon: the football team clearly has the upper hand right now, but their basketball arena is widely known as one of the toughest places in the country to play (to be fair, so is their football stadium), and I'd argue that success in both sports is a fairly recent phenomenon for them (though IIRC, they had some Final Fours, maybe in the '40s?).
Still thinking...