Yeah, the NCAA's own site kind of fails there.
It's an on-campus, off-campus thing.
Got this from Notre Dame's site:
Quiet Period. A period when it is permissible to make in-person recruiting contacts only on the institution's campus. No in-person, off-campus recruiting contacts or evaluations may be made during the quiet period.Dead Period. A period when it is not permissible to make in-person recruiting contacts or evaluations on or off-campus or to permit official or unofficial visits by PSAs to campus.
In the youtube reels I saw, this Trae Young kid looks very, dare I say, Tyus-like. He's not currently rated as a top 25 player on ESPN, but I suspect that is going to change soon, as it seems he has been very impressive in EYBL play.
Below is a comparison of Young through 3/4 of his EYBL season (i.e., through today), and Jones through his pre-junior-year EYBL season. They are virtually identical physically and are similarly efficient as scorers, though Trae Young scores much more from deep and is a much better three-point shooter than Tyus was at the same stage. Young appears to be a slightly better scorer than 2012 Tyus, but Tyus (not surprisingly) was a better distributor and took better care of the ball.
Obviously, there are different circumstances on different teams, tempos, etc. For example, Trae plays AAU with another 2017 stud mentioned in this thread, Porter, whereas Tyus was his team's clear focus, even in 2012 (and likely other teams' primary defensive priority - to the extent there are any defensive priorities in the EYBL). Also, there was a big uptick in Tyus's numbers and efficiency in that year's Peach Jam (early signs of Tyus Stones) and he was unbelievably efficient throughout the entire EYBL season the following year. Nonetheless, I think these numbers are a very good sign for Trae's potential. I like what I see.
Apparently, another 2017 kid, Jarred Vanderbilt, has been one of the most impressive players in the EYBL so far. He plays for Houston Hoops - Winslow's AAU program. He's already a top 5 2017 type, so he probably can't rise much, if at all, but sounds like he's solidified his standing as one of the elite of the elite. He has heard from Duke, but not sure how serious things are with him yet.Code:Young Jones Height 6'1" 6'1" Weight 170 170 Pts/game 20.1 16.8 eFG% .526 .536 FT % .812 .765 3 Pt. attempts 116 39 3 Pt. % .371 .256 Assists/game 3.7 5.3 TO/game 3.6 1.9 Rebs/game 3.1 3.1 Steals/game 1.8 1.7 Minutes 24.6 26.5
"I don't like them when they are eating my azaleas or rhododendrons or pansies." - Coach K
Duke 2017 target Wendell Carter frustrating Harry Giles and impressing at EYBL:
http://hoopseen.com/~devhoops/index...m-justin-young
My son played against Wendell Carter this year. Wendell plays for Pace Academy, which is one of my sons' school's rivals. Suffice it to say that Wendell was a man playing with boys. He basically did whatever he wanted on the floor. He seemed pretty disinterested much of the time. I was also put off as he did not warm up with his team. It was a bit like he was a separate entity from them -- swooping in to dominate the game but not entirely a part of the whole team. That said, friends of mine who know him say he is a sweet kid who works hard in school and that he does not have an ego. It is worth noting that the school he attends is one of the better private schools in the city, so he is getting a top-notch education and Duke would not be a culture shock to him at all.
I would imagine we will play against him the next couple years. I'll update as I see him play more.
-Jason "my 5-10 son was forced to guard Wendell at times... it was not pretty" Evans
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Wendell Carter
Michael Porter
Trae Young
That's my Duke 2017 recruiting wish list so far.
Uhh... Troy Brown?
He was our first offer in this class.
Thanks for that analysis, gam. I hope you're right that Trae is Tyus-like because according to Trae in the following 247 article, the scholarship offer will be coming on his visit: http://247sports.com/Bolt/Duke-serio...guard-37531411
Excerpt:
Although Duke hasn't yet offered, Young expects an offer on the visit.
"Duke does things a little different than everyone else," Young told 247Sports. "They like to offer face to face. They said they were going to offer, so I'm expecting it to happen."
I would say Brown's a combo guard due to his size.
He's someone that can play PG but can also play wing alongside a small PG like Trae Young, if needed, since Brown is 6'6".
If you want to play two PGs together, pairing Young with the giant Brown might be the on-paper ideal because you don't lose size on the wing on defense.
In the final EYBL session (subsequent to my post), Trae took a bit of a step back statistically, but overall, he seems to have helped himself with his AAU play. Also, comparing any guard's EYBL stats to Tyus's is almost not fair. His numbers were ridiculously good both years.
Last edited by gam7; 06-02-2015 at 12:31 PM.
"I don't like them when they are eating my azaleas or rhododendrons or pansies." - Coach K
I mean, I hope there's a giant chart somewhere in the basketball office that keeps track of all these potential package deals.
In 2014, Jahlil Okafor and Tyus Jones coordinated a plan to meet up at Duke.
The result? A national championship.
Come 2015, Ben Simmons and Antonio Blakeney decided to continue their AAU dominance with E1T1 (Fla.) in college, opting to take their talents to Baton Rouge and in 2016 Harry Giles III and Jayson Tatum say they’re planning to keep the proverbial package deal streak alive at a school yet to be determined.
The operative question: Which pair, if any, plans to join forces in college from the 2017 class?
Meet Mokan Elite (Kan.) duo Michael Porter Jr. and Trae Young.
“Yep we’re gonna do it,” Young said. “We’re putting it out there that we’re gonna play together. We just feel like we can do big things together.”
Wait, hang on.
Now, just a couple of months after Jahlil Okafor and Tyus Jones led the Blue Devils to the NCAA title, two other young prospects have discussed a similar package deal while soaking in the ice bath at the USA Basketball training facility in Colorado Springs, CO.
That would be 6-10 big man Wendell Carter Jr. of Atlanta (GA) Pace and 6-5 shooting guard Gary Trent Jr. of Apple Valley (MN), two Class of 2017 stars who made the USA U16 team.
“Me and Gary, we kind of decided to go to school together,” Carter Jr. told SNY.tv by phone just as Game 1 of the NBA Finals was about to begin. “I don’t know if it’s going to be official but we’re going to try to. We’re going to try to put Jarred [Vanderbilt] in the [mix] too.”
Asked if they had any schools in mind, Carter Jr., said: “Me and Gary’s top right now would probably be Duke, but we’re both open to all. I don’t want to speak for him, I’m open for all colleges….It’s whatever fits me.”