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    MBB: Coaching Carousel 2014

    Not only does time of year bring tournaments and awards, it also signals the beginning of a series of coaching changes.

    We can start this one off with a familiar name, as Appalachian State has apparently fired Jason Capel

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    Makes sense. Between the Devonte Graham NLI issue and the fact that his teams get worse every year, it was time to go...

    devonte graham issue

    Jason Capel's Wiki article

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    Jeff was bet-ter, clap, clap, clap-clap-clap

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    I had forgotten that Buzz Peterson did two stints at Appalachian State.

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    We need a love like Johnny, Johnny and June
    ---Over the Rhine

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    Quote Originally Posted by throatybeard View Post
    I had forgotten that Buzz Peterson did two stints at Appalachian State.
    I wonder what he recidivism rate is there.

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    Another former Tarheel player gets bounced.

    UNCW terminates contract of basketball coach Buzz Peterson

    Throaty and OPK put a hex on him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roywhite View Post
    Another former Tarheel player gets bounced.

    UNCW terminates contract of basketball coach Buzz Peterson

    Throaty and OPK put a hex on him?
    Of local interest here, Eddie Biedenbach who coached UNCA to several NCAA Tournaments (including the game against Syracuse in the first round where they got TOTALLY hosed) left last year to go be Peterson's assistant at UNCW. The move surprised a lot of folks in the area - he had built the UNC-Asheville program up quite nicely and seemed to be making a lateral move at best.

    Anyways, he is now the "interim" head coach. Will be very interested to see what he ends up doing. He was buddies with Buzz, and I don't know if he will be asked to step up and I have no idea if he would take it if offered. If he moves on, I'm curious to see where he might land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roywhite View Post
    Another former Tarheel player gets bounced.

    UNCW terminates contract of basketball coach Buzz Peterson

    Throaty and OPK put a hex on him?
    I guess I shouldn't have started that "Look, Peterson is going to keep his job" thread.

    My bad, Buzz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roywhite View Post
    Another former Tarheel player gets bounced.

    UNCW terminates contract of basketball coach Buzz Peterson

    Throaty and OPK put a hex on him?
    You're surprised? I killed poor old Herbert Lom.

    A movie is not about what it's about; it's about how it's about it.
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    Some questions cannot be answered
    Who’s gonna bury who
    We need a love like Johnny, Johnny and June
    ---Over the Rhine

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    Quote Originally Posted by throatybeard View Post
    You're surprised? I killed poor old Herbert Lom.
    And until that time, every day in every way, he was getting better and better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by throatybeard View Post
    You're surprised? I killed poor old Herbert Lom.
    This is how throaty did it (the removable throaty beard was genius):

    http://youtu.be/s66VNF5-624

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurleyfor3 View Post
    Jeff was bet-ter, clap, clap, clap-clap-clap
    Well, Jeff has also been fired once from a head coaching gig. Granted, his was slightly higher profile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roywhite View Post
    Not only does time of year bring tournaments and awards, it also signals the beginning of a series of coaching changes.

    We can start this one off with a familiar name, as Appalachian State has apparently fired Jason Capel
    Possibly Ole Roy can get a promotion to the ASU job, and be closer to his childhood home. He might have to adapt to a more serious academic environment, however.

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    Let me make this clear: Stanford does not belong on the carousel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henderson View Post
    Let me make this clear: Stanford does not belong on the carousel.
    Why not? They are on the good side of the bubble right now, but probably need a win in the PAC-12 tournament to guarantee a tourney bid. And Dawkins probably needs to win the first round NCAA tournament game to guarantee his job security.

    They made the tournament 13 of the 14 years before Dawkins got there, and taking over a team coming off a Sweet 16, he's never gone to the tournament in his 5+ years there.

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    DePaul (12-20, 3-15) ousts Georgetown in the first round of the Big East tournament, throwing a dart in the Hoyas' NCAA bubble and all but ensuring that JTIII will be taking his Dad's team to the NIT for the second time in six years. A mildly big deal if it were 1948.

    At what juncture is "Dad coached team" not convincing enough an argument to justify keeping Little John around as CEO of one of college basketball's most historically great programs? Since making a run to the Final Four in 2007, Georgetown has not advanced beyond the second round of the NCAA tournament (and lost in the first round of the 2009 NIT). This despite entering the NCAA field twice as a two seed and twice as a three seed. I believe that Georgetown is a top ten all-time program and worthy of more success than that. Georgetown evidently disagrees.

    The similarities between Georgetown and DuKe as small, prestigious private schools with elite basketball programs with stringent academic standards might make Steve Wojciechowski an appealing candidate, should a change of power ever happen (i.e. when Big John dies).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameron View Post
    At what juncture is "Dad coached team" not convincing enough an argument to justify keeping Little John around as CEO of one of college basketball's most historically great programs?
    Funny how DePaul was once in just this spot. Their solution was to quit caring about basketball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurleyfor3 View Post
    Funny how DePaul was once in just this spot. Their solution was to quit caring about basketball.
    Thanks for the laugh. Good call. A quick glance shows it took the great Ray Meyer's son more than a dozen years and a 3-23 record to finally force DePaul to cut ties with the family and unofficially retire from competitive hoops.

    For the sake of Hoya fans, hopefully Georgetown's standards are slightly higher. Some people hate the argument that it's good for the game when certain teams are good, but I am a big believer of it. I personally find college basketball even more intriguing when the historic powers are competitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameron View Post
    For the sake of Hoya fans, hopefully Georgetown's standards are slightly higher. Some people hate the argument that it's good for the game when certain teams are good, but I am a big believer of it. I personally find college basketball even more intriguing when the historic powers are competitive.
    I've said this before, but when DePaul faded in prominence, it left a hole in Chicago sports that has never been filled. Chicago doesn't have a good nearby college program that it can call its own. The Big Ten schools don't count, and if Northwestern ever got good I think it would only have a fanbase similar to Duke's in NC -- that is, mostly alumni. Or put another way, if it's the middle of January and you want to see a decent local team, you're SOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurleyfor3 View Post
    I've said this before, but when DePaul faded in prominence, it left a hole in Chicago sports that has never been filled. Chicago doesn't have a good nearby college program that it can call its own. The Big Ten schools don't count, and if Northwestern ever got good I think it would only have a fanbase similar to Duke's in NC -- that is, mostly alumni. Or put another way, if it's the middle of January and you want to see a decent local team, you're SOL.
    I wasn't here in the mid-'80's, but it always struck me as more anomalous that DePaul was ever a power than that they faded into obscurity.

    I don't think that hole's likely to ever be filled, at least not in our lifetimes. For one, as I'm sure you'll agree, it's primarily a professional sports town. People moved on to Michael Jordan pretty quickly. Television has 850 games a week on tap, so there's no need to go see a decent local team, even if they exist. DePaul's facilities are pathetic, and they don't even play anywhere near campus. But most importantly, recruiting has just changed so significantly over the last 30 years. It's impossible to get a collection of top players from one city to stay in town anymore. Everyone from UCLA to Duke to Kentucky has them on their radars from the age of 14 now, and don't have to make a special trip just to meet them due to all the tournaments. They're playing on AAU and all-star teams with kids from other towns and forming friendships there, too. No one stays around an institution for as long as Ray Meyer these days, so it's very difficult to build any local, non-alum fanbase without continuity or being seen as a stepping stone. DePaul was able for awhile to overcome its competitive disadvantages, primarily due to Meyer's cultivation of relationships with every high school coach in Illinois over 40+ years there. Those disadvantages have just grown nearly insurmountable over time, though. Even for the great Pat Kennedy. [sad trombone]

    Nowadays, if you want to be a smallish school in an urban environment with a lot of other attractions that succeeds in big time basketball, you need to, among other things, dump a bunch of money into a modern arena. DePaul's not going to do that (and doesn't have anywhere to do it - they should have bought 6 acres somewhere along the Clybourn corridor when they had the chance 25 years ago). I'm no genius, but I thought Oliver Purnell was insane to take that job, and it looks like he may need to start looking again soon.

    All that said, the implosion of the Big East is probably a good thing for DePaul basketball generally. Now they're back in a mid-major with the ability to break through every once in awhile and rack up a NCAAT appearance here and there, instead of being guaranteed a base of 8 or 9 conference losses every season.

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