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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBFAN View Post
    Although I'm not a huge fan, I would be remiss if I didn't say Doug McDermott should be on that list somewhere
    Agree. Gotta figure CBS and their broadcast partners are rooting for Creighton to make a big run in the NCAA Tournament. Many elements of a great story:

    Coach's son
    Moving up the career scoring list
    Team shoots a ton of 3-pt shots
    Not a traditional power on the order of KY, Duke, AZ, etc.
    McDermott wasn't the most hyped guy even on his high school team, but is turning out to be the best (smiling at you, Black Pigeon)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBFAN View Post
    Although I'm not a huge fan, I would be remiss if I didn't say Doug McDermott should be on that list somewhere
    I think it's Wichita State and McBuckets.

    In terms of Wichita State, they have some good out of conference wins and they haven't lost. We are not talking about a Calipari Memphis team loaded with future lottery picks playing in Conference USA. Cleanthony Early is, maybe, a first round pick, but he'd be in the bottom half. As many pundits have said, there is a HUGE drop off from no losses to one loss. Perfection is elusive and should be celebrated until the run ends.

    As for Doug McDermott, he's going to finish out as one of 7 players in NCAA history with 3,000 points, should finish, at worst, 7th on the all-time scoring list, and will be a first team All American for three years in a row. That's huge. Not to immediately throw cold water on the NCAA all time scoring list, but it is really a random collection at the top - Hall of Famers and guys who never really had outstanding pro careers. I didn't realize Lionel "L Train" Simmons scored 3,200+ points and is 3rd all time!

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    That Uncle Drew is in New Orleans, looking for The Big Man.

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    10 straight power conference championships? Anyone? John Wooden didn't even do that.

    Of course he ain't Lebron James, but barring a faceplant in the last 3 games, Andrew Wiggins should win Big12 POY. He also should be considered for national DPOY, but he won't be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Corey View Post
    To me, the "best" story is the rise of Middle America basketball: Kansas has always been there, of course. But now you've got Wichita State, Iowa, Iowa State, Creighton--even the Univ. of Nebraska showing signs of promise--playing great, exciting basketball. How the flip did that happen?!
    Don't forget Wisconsin...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexHawk View Post
    10 straight power conference championships? Anyone? John Wooden didn't even do that.
    GREAT call. Bill Self is incredible - arguably the best in the business right now in terms of recruiting, recent success, all of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Corey View Post

    To me, the "best" story is the rise of Middle America basketball: Kansas has always been there, of course. But now you've got Wichita State, Iowa, Iowa State, Creighton--even the Univ. of Nebraska showing signs of promise--playing great, exciting basketball. How the flip did that happen?!
    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Dat View Post
    I think it's Wichita State and McBuckets.
    Quote Originally Posted by SupaDave View Post
    Don't forget Wisconsin...
    Possible NCAA Tournament drinking game...every time "Heartland" is mentioned, take a sip.

    Naaah...too dangerous to your health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Dat View Post
    GREAT call. Bill Self is incredible - arguably the best in the business right now in terms of recruiting, recent success, all of it.
    Bill Self is clearly the best coach Kansas has had since Phog Allen.

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    Top story?

    Kansas and/or Bill Self? Yawn. Their recruiting is impressive, and their fans appear enthusiastic, but count me as someone who is not impressed by the minute-to-minute play of either of their freshman stars; highlight clips yes, but also prolonged disappearances. My family's from the midwest, and everyone knows that KU plays in a football league kinda like FSU plays in a basketball league: yeah, I was thrilled that the Seminoles brought home some ACC glory, but watching the football NC doesn't hold a candle to any of the NCAA tourney weekends. And I'm fairly confident the reverse is true for all of Kansas's conference opponents during the year.

    Women's basketball? Only if U Conn loses to somebody. Yeah, they're great, but I have no interest in watching them beat everybody by 30 or reading anything about their coach until it's a post-retirement retrospective.

    Wichita State deserves a #1 seed, but I bet when/if they reach the elite 8, Vegas will view them as undefeated underdogs.

    Carolina only if two national championships get vacated for their use of ineligible players. Have their initial, "mythical" championship vacated as well, and it's the story of my adult sports lifetime. If they keep their banners & have lots of 2014 post-season success, this is an anti-story, and I'll simply not read about it.

    For my schadenfreude to really kick in, Kentucky would also have to end the season on a prolonged losing streak. I'm pessimistic about such an event, but I can dream. I wish we could get them in North Carolina just to hear the stands reverberate with 40-0.

    An SMU re-emergence would require that they had ever previously emerged. Since I grew up in Dallas, I'd be happy for them to really succeed; somebody has to win games that don't involve Duke, and it might as well be a school that generally wins about 10 a year.

    Jabari? Only if he decides to come back for his sophomore year (or if he wins his last collegiate game).

    I might just go with Boeheim, who's one early retirement from being the all-time winningest coach: his refusal to admit that he was at fault after his baby-tantrum or that he'd do it differently or that he cost his team the game could potentially have big downstream repercussions: hold (adult) coaches to the same standards as (late adolescent) players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Corey View Post
    To me, the "best" story is the rise of Middle America basketball: Kansas has always been there, of course. But now you've got Wichita State, Iowa, Iowa State, Creighton--even the Univ. of Nebraska showing signs of promise--playing great, exciting basketball. How the flip did that happen?!
    I'm moving out to Iowa for fellowship this Summer. I believe they heard and got their act together...it wouldn't do for me to not have any decent local b-ball to watch for the next few years.
    Duke '03
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    Best story

    Quote Originally Posted by SupaDave View Post
    Every now and then something catches me and this question has popped up:

    Currently - what is college basketball's best story?

    Is it the lunar development of Marcus Paige?
    The perfection of a role by Tyler Thornton?
    NCCU's dominance under the radar?
    Wichita State's 30-0?
    SMU's emergence?
    Freshmen phenom Tyler Ennis?
    The return of Andre Dawkins?
    Virginia's surprise ACC dominance?
    Maryland crying all the way home?
    Kentucky's 40-0 this season?


    I'm sure there's more. What you got?


    I am going to pick SMU's emergence since I am an SMU grad and I am so relieved that they picked Larry Brown to succeed Doh after putting up with him for 6 of the 7 years that they gave him for his contract. I just don't know how long Larry will stay, but it's fun while it lasts.

    A devoted Duke fan since 1969.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devilsadvocate85 View Post
    I disagree on NCCU. NCCU's win at State was not a fluke, they outplayed the Wolfpack. Looking at their results, their 5 losses all came on the road. By 13 to Cincinnati, 11 at Wichita State and 14 at Maryland being quality opponents on the road and they did not get blown out. No losses since early January.

    They are clearly a good team.
    I agree they are a good team. I cant say they are College Basketball's best story with their schedule that has too many cup cakes.

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by gocanes0506 View Post
    I agree they are a good team. I cant say they are College Basketball's best story with their schedule that has too many cup cakes.
    Dude. It's NC Central. They haven't even been in Division 1 for a decade. You expect them to make the Maui field and have a home-and-home series with Kansas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gocanes0506 View Post
    I agree they are a good team. I cant say they are College Basketball's best story with their schedule that has too many cup cakes.
    Cupcakes? Let's see here...

    They are 10-5 on the road - few schools have accomplished that this year no matter the conference (3 of those losses to established programs).
    They beat Campbell, NC State, and Appalachian State in a span of 6 days. (if NC State manages to beat both Cuse and UNC then this becomes even more impressive)
    They beat an ODU team that's holding it's own in Conference USA - a conference much stronger than the MEAC.
    They beat a Winthrop team that's 5th in the Big South Conference - a conference that UNC and Duke both like to play from time to time.

    And quite frankly - if they had Wichita State's schedule there's a high probability they would have the same record as they do now.

    They win the games they're supposed to win - most of them decisively (something many teams can't say this year).

    You will see their games get bigger. The MEAC has no problem getting ACC schools on its schedule (notice that NCCU played TWO ACC teams).

    Definitely not the best story in basketball - unless you went or go to NCCU - but this is THE team this year that could turn some heads in the tourney. Their story isn't over. They could get a rematch with Wichita State - on a neutral court - and they will be ready. In fact - forget that 16 seed stuff. I think with a MEAC tourney championship they come in as a smoking hot 14 seed.

  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by SupaDave View Post
    Cupcakes? Let's see here...

    They are 10-5 on the road - few schools have accomplished that this year no matter the conference (3 of those losses to established programs).
    They beat Campbell, NC State, and Appalachian State in a span of 6 days. (if NC State manages to beat both Cuse and UNC then this becomes even more impressive)
    They beat an ODU team that's holding it's own in Conference USA - a conference much stronger than the MEAC.
    They beat a Winthrop team that's 5th in the Big South Conference - a conference that UNC and Duke both like to play from time to time.

    And quite frankly - if they had Wichita State's schedule there's a high probability they would have the same record as they do now.

    They win the games they're supposed to win - most of them decisively (something many teams can't say this year).

    You will see their games get bigger. The MEAC has no problem getting ACC schools on its schedule (notice that NCCU played TWO ACC teams).

    Definitely not the best story in basketball - unless you went or go to NCCU - but this is THE team this year that could turn some heads in the tourney. Their story isn't over. They could get a rematch with Wichita State - on a neutral court - and they will be ready. In fact - forget that 16 seed stuff. I think with a MEAC tourney championship they come in as a smoking hot 14 seed.
    They're a good story. I like them. As I pointed out, the comment about them playing cupcakes was silly - but it wasn't silly because it was false. It was silly because they're a low-major team, and of course they should be playing worse schedules than we play. Wichita State's schedule is ranked 130th in the country - people (legitimately) point out that this is much worse than Duke's or Florida's. NCCU's is 348th. There are 351 teams in Division 1.

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