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    Duke Beats Higher Seed

    When was the last time we beat a higher seed?

    My list of our greatest upsets in NCAAT
    UNLV 1991
    Purdue 1994
    Temple 1988

    others?

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    This will be tough, since we've been a 1 or 2 seed 15 of the last 17 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by attackdog View Post
    When was the last time we beat a higher seed?

    My list of our greatest upsets in NCAAT
    UNLV 1991
    Purdue 1994
    Temple 1988

    others?
    Not the latest one, but beating Kentucky on their home floor in 1980 in the regional semifinal was the top one I attended. They were the #1 seed and we were #4.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_NC...all_Tournament

    1994 against Purdue was the last time we beat a higher seed. I think 1999 against Mich St was the last time we beat an equal seed.
    Last edited by BigWayne; 03-20-2013 at 03:23 PM.

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    They haven't had many opportunities to play a higher seed. This is the full list of games vs higher seeds in the NCAA tournament under Coach K. Incredibly, there's only been one game against a higher seed in the last 18 years. The overall record is 5-2 vs higher seeds.

    2003: #3 Duke loses to #2 Kansas
    1994: #2 Duke beats #1 Purdue
    1991: #2 Duke beats #1 UNLV

    1990: #3 Duke loses to #1 UNLV
    1990: #3 Duke beats #1 Connecticut
    1989: #2 Duke beats #1 Georgetown
    1988: #2 Duke beats #1 Temple

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double DD View Post
    They haven't had many opportunities to play a higher seed. This is the full list of games vs higher seeds in the NCAA tournament under Coach K. Incredibly, there's only been one game against a higher seed in the last 18 years. The overall record is 5-2 vs higher seeds.

    2003: #3 Duke loses to #2 Kansas
    1994: #2 Duke beats #1 Purdue
    1991: #2 Duke beats #1 UNLV

    1990: #3 Duke loses to #1 UNLV
    1990: #3 Duke beats #1 Connecticut
    1989: #2 Duke beats #1 Georgetown
    1988: #2 Duke beats #1 Temple
    Also #1 Arky in 1994.

    The last time unc beat a #1 was 2009 vs. uconn, before that 2005 vs. Illinois. I believe the last time they did it as a lower seed was 2000 vs. Stanford. Last time Kentucky did it may have been 1998 vs. us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurleyfor3 View Post
    Also #1 Arky in 1994.

    The last time unc beat a #1 was 2009 vs. uconn, before that 2005 vs. Illinois. I believe the last time they did it as a lower seed was 2000 vs. Stanford. Last time Kentucky did it may have been 1998 vs. us.
    Thanks. I knew something was a little off in my post. That would move the overall record to 5-3.

    Kentucky beat #1 Ohio State and #2 North Carolina in 2011 as a #4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurleyfor3 View Post
    Also #1 Arky in 1994.

    The last time unc beat a #1 was 2009 vs. uconn, before that 2005 vs. Illinois. I believe the last time they did it as a lower seed was 2000 vs. Stanford. Last time Kentucky did it may have been 1998 vs. us.
    Actually, this never happened. In the first game of the 2009 Final Four, #2 Michigan State beat #1 uconn. #1 unc beat #3 Nova in the second semifinal. The title game was a disappointment.

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    2013- Duke defeats #1 Louisville, #1 Gonzaga, and #1 Indiana to pull the hat trick, and become the first team since 1997 Arizona to knock off three #1 seeds.

    You heard it here first

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    I hope you're right turnandburn

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    Quote Originally Posted by turnandburn55 View Post
    2013- Duke defeats #1 Louisville, #1 Gonzaga, and #1 Indiana to pull the hat trick, and become the first team since 1997 Arizona to knock off three #1 seeds.

    You heard it here first
    Your optimism is not quite compelling. We played our best defense the first 6 weeks of this season. We have played average defense, by Duke standards, since. I know we have the talent and balance, but I'm not sure we can lock in and play excellent D it takes to win 6 in a row.

    Please convince me! I am all ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turnandburn55 View Post
    2013- Duke defeats #1 Louisville, #1 Gonzaga, and #1 Indiana to pull the hat trick, and become the first team since 1997 Arizona to knock off three #1 seeds.

    You heard it here first
    I have a slightly different prediction: Duke beats #1 L'ouisville, then #2 OSU, then #2 Miami ... to become the first team to ever win a National Championship by beating THREE TEAMS THAT THEY'D ALREADY BEATEN IN THAT SAME SEASON!!!

  12. Quote Originally Posted by -bdbd View Post
    I have a slightly different prediction: Duke beats #1 L'ouisville, then #2 OSU, then #2 Miami ... to become the first team to ever win a National Championship by beating THREE TEAMS THAT THEY'D ALREADY BEATEN IN THAT SAME SEASON!!!
    Mind. Blown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superdave View Post
    Your optimism is not quite compelling. We played our best defense the first 6 weeks of this season. We have played average defense, by Duke standards, since. I know we have the talent and balance, but I'm not sure we can lock in and play excellent D it takes to win 6 in a row.

    Please convince me! I am all ears.
    We were the consensus title favorite something like 14 days ago. It's not irrational to think we remain title contenders. Sure, Duke is unlikely to win the title, but it's unlikely anyone wins the title. Are there five teams with a better shot? I'd say no. Why not be happy with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Des Esseintes View Post
    We were the consensus title favorite something like 14 days ago. It's not irrational to think we remain title contenders. Sure, Duke is unlikely to win the title, but it's unlikely anyone wins the title. Are there five teams with a better shot? I'd say no. Why not be happy with that?
    I think if we can play defense the way we did earl in the season, we'll beat anyone. I worry that we did cannot, because we did not get the stops we needed against Maryland. Perhaps this week of practice will help, and playing Albany will give us some game time to implement those principles.

    This year is wide open, and the Kelly injury stinks for that reason. If he had been healthy all year, I feel like we'd be the favorite. His injuy seems to have cost us our defensive chemistry. We're not bad, just not elite at D. And I think you need to be to knock off the 1, 2 and 3 seeds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superdave View Post
    Your optimism is not quite compelling. We played our best defense the first 6 weeks of this season. We have played average defense, by Duke standards, since. I know we have the talent and balance, but I'm not sure we can lock in and play excellent D it takes to win 6 in a row.

    Please convince me! I am all ears.
    I agree that Duke may not be able to lock in and play the excellent D required to win 6 in a row. I do believe that Duke can lock in and play good enough D to win 2 games this weekend. I then think that Duke will have regained some confidence and realize what it takes to win and then may be able to win 2 games the next weekend (1 challenging game at a time.) Then, if they make the Final Four, they will be playing as well as any team and will have as good a chance as any to win one more four team tournament and get #5.
    “Those two kids, they’re champions,” Krzyzewski said of his senior leaders. “They’re trying to teach the other kids how to become that, and it’s a long road to become that.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSDukeFan View Post
    I agree that Duke may not be able to lock in and play the excellent D required to win 6 in a row. I do believe that Duke can lock in and play good enough D to win 2 games this weekend. I then think that Duke will have regained some confidence and realize what it takes to win and then may be able to win 2 games the next weekend (1 challenging game at a time.) Then, if they make the Final Four, they will be playing as well as any team and will have as good a chance as any to win one more four team tournament and get #5.
    This a good argument. Beat Albany then see what's next. One step at a time. I cannot imagine these guys feel good about making Dez Wells the next Bootsy Thornton, nor do they feel confident after beating Miami and Unc only to get down 12-2 in Greensboro and not be able to stop an NIT team.

    They may not be able to get their defensive chemistry back to a top 10 status, but they may be able to jump on each opponent early and never get stuck in a position where they need 3-4 difficult stops in a row. If the offense is efficient enough, it will help the defense out. Many of these "favorites" will also take care of themselves and get upset. The Duke guys need to focus narrowly, on starting well vs. Albany, then on finishing Albany off. Confidence can build back with each win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superdave View Post
    This a good argument. Beat Albany then see what's next. One step at a time. I cannot imagine these guys feel good about making Dez Wells the next Bootsy Thornton, nor do they feel confident after beating Miami and Unc only to get down 12-2 in Greensboro and not be able to stop an NIT team.

    They may not be able to get their defensive chemistry back to a top 10 status, but they may be able to jump on each opponent early and never get stuck in a position where they need 3-4 difficult stops in a row. If the offense is efficient enough, it will help the defense out. Many of these "favorites" will also take care of themselves and get upset. The Duke guys need to focus narrowly, on starting well vs. Albany, then on finishing Albany off. Confidence can build back with each win.
    If there is anything that will focus a squad, it would be losing to an NIT team twice in one year. I think we will come out focused based on this and K's talk of this being one and done. We are a Senior led team this year. The workload goes on 3 guys who have been around or on a championship team, not a freshman. They know their back is against the wall. I expect to see passion out there.

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