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Assuming Scheyer keeps playing the way he has, is he worthy of having his number retired? I know it is early, but it seems that we would meet all the requirements (graduation, potential all American status, potential school record with season assist / turnover)
What do you guys think?
I'd like to see a long run in March and he gets a ring.
~rthomas
Retire Scheyer?
No, I think we should let him play the rest of the year.
Not unless he wins National Player of the Year and/or leads the team to a national championship. There are a number of Duke greats who don't have their numbers retired, including three guys who topped 2,000 points (Alarie, Banks, Spanarkel).
Scheyer is having a great senior season to cap a very solid Duke career. But unless the team has a great March/April AND Scheyer continues his phenomenal start individually, I just don't see him getting his jersey retired.
But that's not a discredit to Scheyer. It's just a credit to the great careers of the guys whose numbers are retired. I agree with the poster who said let's just enjoy Scheyer's season as is.
No Gene Banks then No Jon Scheyer. He MUST lead us to a championship before I consider it. That is that.
I'm pretty sure that Duke has standard qualifications that must be met before a jersey can be retired. IIRC, when JJ and Shelden were being considered for the honor, they said that it was automatic if a player is voted national player of the year or defensive player of the year.
One of the intangible qualifications which is shared by the Duke players whose numbers are retired is program changing influence.
I love watching Jon play and think he's a premier player, but I'm not sure that he's significantly changed the Duke program.... yet.
At this point, if any player's number were to be retired, it would be Gene Banks who was overlooked earlier.
As for being automatic, retiring a number at Duke is anything but that. For many years Eddie Cameron would not agree to any retirement other than Dick Groat's number. In recent years the qualifications have become more nearly consistent, there's no automatic selection.
Coach K recently mentioned the retirement requirements, I think on last week's TV show. NPOY or NDPOY are among the requirements, as is graduation (paging Elton Brand, paging Elton Brand). The show was a retrospective and had a segment on retired jerseys - he wasn't talking about any current players.
Once a player is in the Hall of Honor, and Banks, Alarie and Spanarkel are, supposedly you can't/won't have your jersey retired. I still wish Dunleavy had stayed for his senior year so there could have been a "double" #34 ceremony for him and Jimmy.
After last night's game, I'm starting to think Jon Scheyer may just get his NPOY. I sure hope so because it would mean great things for this Duke team!
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msdukie sounds like he knows what he's talking about here:
http://www.dukebasketballreport.com/...1&postcount=19
Incidentally, that thread was eventually shut down by Jumbo:
http://www.dukebasketballreport.com/...1&postcount=23
Last edited by 91_92_01_10_15; 01-07-2010 at 11:19 AM. Reason: spelling
If you want to get a sense of the stature of players whose numbers are retired, take a few minutes to look at the pictures of the members of the Duke Hall of Fame.
Absolutely!!!! (Even if he is "alarmingly unathletic").
From my understanding, graduation isn't the requirement, the requirement is that the player earned their degree...so for instance if G won NPOY last year, and then got his degree down the road, he could possibly retired
maybe i'm wrong, but that's how I've read K quoted
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No chance. Scheyer's career has not been as good as Mark Alarie, Gene Banks, Jim Spanarkel, or Jack Marin, and they're not up there either. Forget it.
If it doesn't retire, I believe Seth is going to take it next season. What are your thoughts on that? I think it could be too soon.
Scheyer has never even been to the Final Four. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.