Very similar. For both, say the wrong words and you might get kicked!
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The most embarrassing things that have ever happened to me after a lecture is as follows. After my first big lecture at a major academic Medical Center I go up to thank the person who invited me to do Grand rounds. She had her back turned to me and I was going to touch her on the shoulder but she turned at the last second and my hand did not land on her shoulder. And we both stood there for about 2 seconds while she stared down at my hand on her breast. I took that hand away and thanked her for inviting me. I immediately called my boss on the way out the door and told him I was either getting invited back every year or never again. And there was no in between. I'm invited back every year and she and I have never discussed this.
My worst faux pas was sending an incredibly flirty email to a prospective client I had met not 30 minutes ago inviting him to get margaritas after work. His last name was Roger and the lady I was inviting had the last name Rogers. I'd been so used to her email auto-populating in Outlook that I just went about my business as usual forgetting that his name was now in my email.
He politely declined. I lay awake at night twenty years later still thinking about it. It is still mortifying/anxiety-inducing to think about...
I have to take 3-4 hours of sexual harassment training every year and, if nothing else, that's basically the one thing they literally say you have to take away - "Don't Be Creepy" - in the office, at holiday parties, after work at the bar - just "don't be creepy." And if you think you might be acting creepy, then you are.
Oh, if we are moving to embarrassing email stories...
About ten years ago my business partner and I were considering a second location. We had seen a few locations with a commercial real estate agent and he had been emailing us quotes and listings.
One of the places was attractive but required a ton of renovation to get to what we needed. The quote came in very high on the lease, and I was quite frank in my reply to my business partner, calling it something along the lines of "a completely BS bluff thinking we would agree to a lease like this."
Unfortunately, it was a "reply all" sort of situation and the agent was on the thread.
Probably not. I work in a field which is at least 80-90% female. I have seen a lot of creepy guys and for the most part they get away with the creepiness. I have been in medicine for over 20 years. It is better now. But there are still some boob talkers and guys who speak in sexual innuendos. Most of them are bad at recognizing how they are perceived. But there is a subset who are just toxically masculine and think people like that.
But it sort of makes you wonder, what is "getting away with it."
To me, there's "well, I didn't get fired or sued, so I got away with it!" But then there's that second level of "well, everyone totes knew I was creepy AF, but either no one had enough evidence to bring an issue or they didn't want to deal with the paperwork!"
I try to stay out of both categories, but I have met people who are gleefully in the "can't prove anything, so I'm not creepy!" group. I minimize my interactions with such folks.
But seriously, do people still date coworkers?
This is a question for the ages. I think most worst offenders are just wired a certain way and, no, they probably don't have much of a sense of how they might be perceived by other people; they're just worried about their own wants and needs.
I suspect there's a lot of room in between that extreme and not a creeper bone in his/her body.
I can think of a few things I've said or done over the years that might have been interpreted as creepy but, when I hear my female friends' stories about all the crap they've had to deal w/ from men over the years, I think I'm generally in non-creeper territory.
Yes. Both of those industries kinda "make sense" for dating. Medical work is high stress and has weird hours, pairing folks together is likely to have more understanding and empathy.
Teachers have a very different sort of stressful job, and if you can find someone else in education, you can plan baller vacations in the summer and Christmas breaks.
Please tell me you washed yours hands after going back to work.
Most of my medical friends have stories about hooking up with co-workers. Unfortunately, it also involves actual hooking up IN the hospital, which has really changed my perception of nurses and doctors walking into my patient room. Like, where exactly are you coming from...