Ginger Baker of Cream has died at 80

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10-06-2019, 07:53 AM
dudog84

Ginger Baker of Cream has died at 80

Well hell, there's the third (Money, Ocasek). Ginger Baker, legendary drummer, has passed.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news...2dl?li=BBnbfcL

R.I.P.

Edit: For your appreciation...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Gze0PxDKgQ
10-06-2019, 11:13 AM
JasonEvans

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Originally Posted by dudog84

For your appreciation...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Gze0PxDKgQ

Cue that above video in to the 1:30 mark to just see a ridiculous drum solo... wow! Baker is somewhat credited with investing the rock drum solo.

Here is a great article from Rolling Stone on the most important tracks of Ginger Baker's amazing career.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/m...a-kuti-890696/
10-06-2019, 03:52 PM
duke74

In his honor, I am listening to the catalogs of Cream and Blind Faith on Napster as I grade assignments. Also brings back memories of my youth.
10-06-2019, 04:47 PM
budwom

I'm sure his name doesn't mean much to most on this board. One of the great ironies of his passing at a pretty ripe age of 80 was that throughout the seventies, rumors of his imminent death came one after another. It never seemed to let up...
10-06-2019, 05:02 PM
dudog84

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Originally Posted by budwom

I'm sure his name doesn't mean much to most on this board. One of the great ironies of his passing at a pretty ripe age of 80 was that throughout the seventies, rumors of his imminent death came one after another. It never seemed to let up...

Exactly why I posted the clip, I thought the same thing. Are there any great, or even known, drummers out there today? Seems like all the acts now are a frontman/woman and a lot of dancing.
10-06-2019, 05:16 PM
Kdogg

Damn. He was one of a dying breed of rock superstar. I wished him and Jack Bruce could have gotten along.
10-06-2019, 06:11 PM
Bob Green

Another piece of my youth is gone. RIP Ginger Baker.
10-06-2019, 09:14 PM
Duke79UNLV77

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Originally Posted by dudog84

Exactly why I posted the clip, I thought the same thing. Are there any great, or even known, drummers out there today? Seems like all the acts now are a frontman/woman and a lot of dancing.

The youngest in Modern Drummer’s all-time top 50 was born in 1969.

https://www.moderndrummer.com/articl...drummers-time/.
10-06-2019, 09:44 PM
dudog84

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Originally Posted by Duke79UNLV77

The youngest in Modern Drummer’s all-time top 50 was born in 1969.

https://www.moderndrummer.com/articl...drummers-time/.

Thanks for the link, but in my completely unprofessional opinion, Ginger Baker is too low here (23) considering his influence. Maybe it's because he was a well-known enemy-maker.
10-06-2019, 10:28 PM
rsvman

Sorry, but any list of drummers that has Phil Collins ranked above Danny Carey is using some kind of alternative metric other than drumming.

Ginger Baker was amazing. He did some stellar work more recently for a band called Masters of Reality. He will be missed.
10-06-2019, 10:28 PM
Duke79UNLV77

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Originally Posted by dudog84

Thanks for the link, but in my completely unprofessional opinion, Ginger Baker is too low here (23) considering his influence. Maybe it's because he was a well-known enemy-maker.

I also was surprised he wasn’t higher.
10-07-2019, 08:51 AM
rthomas

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Originally Posted by dudog84

Exactly why I posted the clip, I thought the same thing. Are there any great, or even known, drummers out there today? Seems like all the acts now are a frontman/woman and a lot of dancing.

Questlove, for one.
10-07-2019, 10:25 AM
Jeffrey

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Originally Posted by dudog84

Thanks for the link, but in my completely unprofessional opinion, Ginger Baker is too low here (23) considering his influence. Maybe it's because he was a well-known enemy-maker.

Agreed! IMO, many rankings don't make sense. Moon at 8 followed by Ringo at 9. Those cats weren't that close.
10-07-2019, 10:48 AM
OldPhiKap

Quick scan on my phone, but I did not see Levon Helm on the list. Surely I overlooked him, right?
10-07-2019, 10:58 AM
Acymetric

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Originally Posted by rsvman

Sorry, but any list of drummers that has Phil Collins ranked above Danny Carey is using some kind of alternative metric other than drumming.

Ginger Baker was amazing. He did some stellar work more recently for a band called Masters of Reality. He will be missed.

Wait, that was Ginger? I only know a couple songs (by way of Pandora) but the ones I remember were pretty slick.
10-07-2019, 11:03 AM
Acymetric

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Originally Posted by dudog84

Exactly why I posted the clip, I thought the same thing. Are there any great, or even known, drummers out there today? Seems like all the acts now are a frontman/woman and a lot of dancing.

I assume you're referring to newish bands? Neil Pert, Chad Smith, and Dave Grohl are still out there banging on stuff I think. Danny Carey although maybe he isn't all that known. I know there are some great drummers in the jam scene and I'm sure there are in the punk, funk, and jazz scenes (among others) but none of those are really in the public eye anymore.
10-07-2019, 11:40 AM
dudog84

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Originally Posted by Acymetric

I assume you're referring to newish bands? Neil Pert, Chad Smith, and Dave Grohl are still out there banging on stuff I think. Danny Carey although maybe he isn't all that known. I know there are some great drummers in the jam scene and I'm sure there are in the punk, funk, and jazz scenes (among others) but none of those are really in the public eye anymore.

Ha! Peart and Smith are older than me! And yeah, I'm not considered newish anymore. :):( Grohl is pointed out as being the youngest in the list above.
10-07-2019, 12:39 PM
Duke79UNLV77

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Originally Posted by Acymetric

I assume you're referring to newish bands? Neil Pert, Chad Smith, and Dave Grohl are still out there banging on stuff I think. Danny Carey although maybe he isn't all that known. I know there are some great drummers in the jam scene and I'm sure there are in the punk, funk, and jazz scenes (among others) but none of those are really in the public eye anymore.

Sadly, Peart retired a few years ago. He said that in 7 years (at the time) he would be 70 and that, at 70, he could still play a Charlie Watts drumline fine, but he wouldn't be able to play a Neil Peart drumline. He was starting to have a lot of pain and also has a younger kid from remarrying after his first wife passed away. The others are still drumming, though Grohl mostly sings and plays guitar now. Miles Davis's fusion jazz drummer and Dennis Chambers from Funkadelic played here in the last year or so.
10-07-2019, 11:13 PM
Edouble

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Originally Posted by dudog84

Thanks for the link, but in my completely unprofessional opinion, Ginger Baker is too low here (23) considering his influence. Maybe it's because he was a well-known enemy-maker.

I'd say 85-90% the drummers ranked above him belong. The jazz guys are/were far more influential, and except for Bonham all better players, in this drummer's opinion.