DWBB 2021-22 Season

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10-14-2021, 11:42 PM
dudog84

Video of Kara and Jade at ACC Media Day:

https://goduke.com/watch/?Archive=11422&type=Archive
10-15-2021, 04:37 PM
dudog84

The price of (successful) head women's basketball coaches just went up.

https://www.espn.com/womens-college-...ract-extension

Staley gets $22.4M over 7 years.
10-16-2021, 08:36 AM
Indoor66

WHY are they paying so much for coaches for programs that will always lose money - men's or women's? Because someone else is is not a reason, it is an excuse. This is insanity - but there is a lot of that going around.
10-16-2021, 08:45 AM
DoubleBlue

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Originally Posted by Indoor66

WHY are they paying so much for coaches for programs that will always lose money - men's or women's? Because someone else is is not a reason, it is an excuse. This is insanity - but there is a lot of that going around.

Could it be that Women's sports carry some value beyond simply the Title 9 requirments and any revenue they generate? Most colleges place value on the success of their Women's Basketball, Soccer, Softball, etc for school pride, social status and bragging rights. The salary of those coaches may not be based on revenue, but on instrinic value to the school.
10-16-2021, 09:51 AM
budwom

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Originally Posted by DoubleBlue

Could it be that Women's sports carry some value beyond simply the Title 9 requirments and any revenue they generate? Most colleges place value on the success of their Women's Basketball, Soccer, Softball, etc for school pride, social status and bragging rights. The salary of those coaches may not be based on revenue, but on instrinic value to the school.

Along those lines, a lot of businesses like to hire ex female athletes as well as male athletes...competitive people and all that...
10-17-2021, 10:39 AM
Researchc

Anyone know why the DWBB team was not introduced during CTC? Every year, I've always enjoyed the introduction of the DWBB team. There was not even a mention of the team this year. I was at least looking forward to seeing them introduce the other Coach K.
10-17-2021, 10:55 AM
dukelifer

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Originally Posted by Researchc

Anyone know why the DWBB team was not introduced during CTC? Every year, I've always enjoyed the introduction of the DWBB team. There was not even a mention of the team this year. I was at least looking forward to seeing them introduce the other Coach K.

Huh- that is a surprise.
10-17-2021, 02:49 PM
chrishoke

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Originally Posted by Researchc

Anyone know why the DWBB team was not introduced during CTC? Every year, I've always enjoyed the introduction of the DWBB team. There was not even a mention of the team this year. I was at least looking forward to seeing them introduce the other Coach K.

This year more than ever, with all the transfers, they needed introduction to Duke basketball fans.
10-17-2021, 05:20 PM
Phredd3

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Originally Posted by chrishoke

This year more than ever, with all the transfers, they needed introduction to Duke basketball fans.

Well, that's true. On the other hand:

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Originally Posted by uh_no

you sit around, they show a bunch of pump up videos, each player comes out to some song and dance, they play for a few minutes, maybe coach or one of the players says a few words and that's it. All intermixed with a bunch of wise chips sorting challenges or whatever. Sometimes the women's team pleads for you to go to their games.

Sorry, that's the cynics view of the event :) I know others enjoy it more and I hope you do. Definitely something to go to...at least once...

But I'm sort of hoping that the lack of presence at CTC was a calculated move toward standing more on their own as a program, which hopefully will avoid the sentiment expressed in the bolded. I think Coach K(ara) aspires to be more in the UConn, Tennessee, Notre Dame, etc. mold, where the women's program is an independent leader, and not dependent on being an adjunct to the men. Mind you, I don't know that this was the thinking, but I do hope it at least played a role in that decision.
10-17-2021, 05:37 PM
chrishoke

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Originally Posted by Phredd3

But I'm sort of hoping that the lack of presence at CTC was a calculated move toward standing more on their own as a program, which hopefully will avoid the sentiment expressed in the bolded. I think Coach K(ara) aspires to be more in the UConn, Tennessee, Notre Dame, etc. mold, where the women's program is an independent leader, and not dependent on being an adjunct to the men. Mind you, I don't know that this was the thinking, but I do hope it at least played a role in that decision.

I'd certainly be cool with that.
10-17-2021, 05:38 PM
uh_no

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Originally Posted by Phredd3

Well, that's true. On the other hand:

But I'm sort of hoping that the lack of presence at CTC was a calculated move toward standing more on their own as a program, which hopefully will avoid the sentiment expressed in the bolded. I think Coach K(ara) aspires to be more in the UConn, Tennessee, Notre Dame, etc. mold, where the women's program is an independent leader, and not dependent on being an adjunct to the men. Mind you, I don't know that this was the thinking, but I do hope it at least played a role in that decision.

UConn holds a joint m/w midnight madness, or whatever. the interest is, tbf, far more equal there, though.

i can see not wanting to do what the women used to here, though.
10-17-2021, 06:41 PM
Phredd3

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Originally Posted by uh_no

UConn holds a joint m/w midnight madness, or whatever. the interest is, tbf, far more equal there, though.

i can see not wanting to do what the women used to here, though.

Yeah, it's different if both teams do a one-by-one intro and get a scrimmage, even if the women go first. But I'm hoping the entirely one-way treatment will become a thing of the past. But, as always, that will depend on success on the court, and so far, there is still a lot for the women to prove.
10-18-2021, 06:11 PM
Researchc

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Originally Posted by Phredd3

Well, that's true. On the other hand:

But I'm sort of hoping that the lack of presence at CTC was a calculated move toward standing more on their own as a program, which hopefully will avoid the sentiment expressed in the bolded. I think Coach K(ara) aspires to be more in the UConn, Tennessee, Notre Dame, etc. mold, where the women's program is an independent leader, and not dependent on being an adjunct to the men. Mind you, I don't know that this was the thinking, but I do hope it at least played a role in that decision.

I had that same thought and hope that played into the decision as well. But the thing that separates those programs from others is their fan base, so it would make sense for them to work to build that up in any way possible. If I lived closer to Durham, I would love to attend more of their games.
10-18-2021, 06:23 PM
uh_no

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Originally Posted by Researchc

I had that same thought and hope that played into the decision as well. But the thing that separates those programs from others is their fan base, so it would make sense for them to work to build that up in any way possible. If I lived closer to Durham, I would love to attend more of their games.

the women's team used to be a reasonable draw...it turns out not bringing Uconn to town and having a team that's...not performing...doesn't do great to encourage attendance.

I'm hoping we get back to that. I for sure will try to get to USC and NCSU at the very least.
10-18-2021, 08:08 PM
triaddukefan

Does anyone know why there isn't a Blue-White game this year? I was really looking forward to seeing the team in October.
10-19-2021, 01:00 PM
CameronBornAndBred

The women's AP poll is out. No mention of Duke, which mildly surprises me, but only very mildly since this team is truly unknown as a collective. Individually, though, I would think there is enough talent to merit a vote or two at least.

That being said, the ACC reps are

NC State #5
Louisville #6
Florida State #16
Virginia Tech #24

Notre Dame has 8 votes

Future OOC opponents on the list include (In order of appearance on the schedule)

Iowa #9
South Carolina #1

https://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/rankings
10-19-2021, 01:07 PM
uh_no

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Originally Posted by CameronBornAndBred

The women's AP poll is out. No mention of Duke, which mildly surprises me, but only very mildly since this team is truly unknown as a collective. Individually, though, I would think there is enough talent to merit a vote or two at least.

That being said, the ACC reps are

NC State #5
Louisville #6
Florida State #16
Virginia Tech #24

Notre Dame has 8 votes

Future OOC opponents on the list include (In order of appearance on the schedule)

Iowa #9
South Carolina #1

https://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/rankings

hard to give votes to a team which didn't play last year (effectively), and has had pretty much100% turnover since they last played meaningful basketball.

Duke will have to earn this on the court.

Also FWIW, if uconn stays healthy, I think they run the table...but we will see.
10-19-2021, 01:34 PM
dudog84

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Originally Posted by CameronBornAndBred

The women's AP poll is out. No mention of Duke, which mildly surprises me, but only very mildly since this team is truly unknown as a collective. Individually, though, I would think there is enough talent to merit a vote or two at least.

That being said, the ACC reps are

NC State #5
Louisville #6
Florida State #16
Virginia Tech #24

Notre Dame has 8 votes

Future OOC opponents on the list include (In order of appearance on the schedule)

Iowa #9
South Carolina #1

https://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/rankings

Tsk tsk. Has #17 Georgia Tech dropped out of the ACC? :p;)
10-19-2021, 01:54 PM
chrishoke

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Originally Posted by uh_no

Duke will have to earn this on the court.

As it should be. Bring on the season - can't wait.
10-19-2021, 01:54 PM
CameronBornAndBred

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Originally Posted by dudog84

Tsk tsk. Has #17 Georgia Tech dropped out of the ACC? :p;)

They were trying out camouflage unis. They work great! ;)

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