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Duke79UNLV77
05-20-2008, 10:25 PM
3-star guard recruit from Durham Jordan. Perhaps a sign that Ellington is gone?

I also saw a quote from Green's dad that Green will be back if he is not going in the 1st round.

Devilsfan
05-20-2008, 10:40 PM
I guess he's back for a few years.,

Bluedog
05-20-2008, 10:48 PM
Other schools besides UNC that offered Justin Watts a scholarship: East Carolina, Fairfield, and George Mason. Schools that he was interested in, but didn't offer him a scholarship: Temple, UVA, Clemson, UGA, IL, Penn St. Definitely a 4-year player. Nothing wrong with that, of course. UNC does need some of them.

yancem
05-20-2008, 10:58 PM
Other schools besides UNC that offered Justin Watts a scholarship: East Carolina, Fairfield, and George Mason. Schools that he was interested in, but didn't offer him a scholarship: Temple, UVA, Clemson, UGA, IL, Penn St. Definitely a 4-year player. Nothing wrong with that, of course. UNC does need some of them.

More importantly for UNC, he's a guard which they won't have to many of next year if Lawson, Ellington and/or Green stay in the draft.

sandinmyshoes
05-20-2008, 11:19 PM
Word from UNC fans is that Coach Dawkins offered him a scholarship to Stanford, and that Watts said it came down to UNC and Stanford.

gotham devil
05-21-2008, 12:23 AM
Word from UNC fans is that Coach Dawkins offered him a scholarship to Stanford, and that Watts said it came down to UNC and Stanford.
It also likely means that Ellington is gone.

I realize he's a basketball player, but it's always mind-boggling to hear/read that someone turned downed a full scholarship to an elite academic institution for a state school.

Channing
05-21-2008, 12:42 AM
It also likely means that Ellington is gone.

I realize he's a basketball player, but it's always mind-boggling to hear/read that someone turned downed a full scholarship to an elite academic institution for a state school.

perhaps being a stone's throw from home where his family can watch him play had something to do with it. I would guess he is fulfilling a child hood dream.

gotham devil
05-21-2008, 01:15 AM
perhaps being a stone's throw from home where his family can watch him play had something to do with it. I would guess he is fulfilling a child hood dream.

That's probably it.

CameronBornAndBred
05-21-2008, 07:32 AM
I realize he's a basketball player, but it's always mind-boggling to hear/read that someone turned downed a full scholarship to an elite academic institution for a state school.

Compared to some other state universities, UNC is pretty impressive, so I don't think that's a completely fair statement. I think given the close proximity and the caliber of the academics, it's fair choice. Plus, it's good to see someone come out of my high school!

sandinmyshoes
05-21-2008, 07:41 AM
I think there are as many reasons for picking where you will go to school as there are individuals making the decision.

Some kids probably like a smaller, more intimate campus. Others like larger schools. Some want to stay close to home. Others want to experience a different environment. Some want to stick with a family tradition. Others want to go beyond that tradition. The list could go on and on.

OldPhiKap
05-21-2008, 09:41 AM
It also likely means that Ellington is gone.

I realize he's a basketball player, but it's always mind-boggling to hear/read that someone turned downed a full scholarship to an elite academic institution for a state school.


I hate the Heels as much as the next guy. Probably more. But UNC is a good spot for a kid to spend four years and a degree from there is a pretty good thing. Plus, some want to go to a big school as opposed to a small school, etc., and UNC does have a litte bit of history.

Taking off my royal blue shades for a minute: if my kid had a choice of playing hoops at UNC, East Carolina, Fairfield, or George Mason, that would be a pretty easy choice.

roywhite
05-21-2008, 09:48 AM
I haven't seen it spelled out---is Justin Watts in the HS class of 2008?...he'll be coming to Chapel Hill this fall?

Seems like a pretty good move by the Tar Heels to get a local guy who is willing to be a practice player and be used in a limited role. David Noel, for example, began with a similar role and developed into a good player.

dukeENG2003
05-21-2008, 09:54 AM
for what its worth, nbadraft.net has Ellington going 27th to the Hornets. . .

SilkyJ
05-21-2008, 03:13 PM
I realize he's a basketball player, but it's always mind-boggling to hear/read that someone turned downed a full scholarship to an elite academic institution for a state school.

mind-boggling? really? the aforementioned "state school" is in his, wait for it, home state! not to mention its a pretty good school in its own right, state school or not.

SilkyJ
05-21-2008, 03:17 PM
for what its worth, nbadraft.net has Ellington going 27th to the Hornets. . .

as i imagine you were implying, tisn't worth much.

anyone know if the invites have gone out for the NBA pre-draft camp in orlando. its in a couple weeks, so i imagine invites must have gone out by now but cant find any info...

wolfpackdevil
05-21-2008, 03:19 PM
It also likely means that Ellington is gone.

I realize he's a basketball player, but it's always mind-boggling to hear/read that someone turned downed a full scholarship to an elite academic institution for a state school.

Justin is a kid I know personally, and this is a huge chance for him.

He did turn down Stanford but it is hard for a kid to go from Durham NC to Stanford, CA and move thousands of miles.

We are also forgetting, UNC is one of the top schools in the country no matter how much we dislike them, it is a great school and he is honored to be able to play for Roy and go to a prestigious school like the University of North Carolina

geraldsneighbor
05-21-2008, 03:24 PM
I don't know what people see in sticker man. I just don't like the guy and after that final four showing I don't think he prepares very well.

SilkyJ
05-21-2008, 03:31 PM
I don't know what people see in sticker man. I just don't like the guy and after that final four showing I don't think he prepares very well.

its those daggum coke commercials. such an unfair recruiting advantage!!

gotham devil
05-21-2008, 03:47 PM
Justin is a kid I know personally, and this is a huge chance for him.

He did turn down Stanford but it is hard for a kid to go from Durham NC to Stanford, CA and move thousands of miles.

We are also forgetting, UNC is one of the top schools in the country no matter how much we dislike them, it is a great school and he is honored to be able to play for Roy and go to a prestigious school like the University of North Carolina
Academically, it's the equivalent of comparing a nice American car, such as a Cadillac, with a world-class car, like a Maybach.

Outside of the athletes, (even without bringing a full scholarship into the picture) I doubt Stanford loses more than five to eight kids per decade to a school like UNC-Chapel Hill. The Stanford admissions staff does its best to track the data. Good luck to the basketball player.

sandinmyshoes
05-21-2008, 05:47 PM
There were 60 coaches in the NCAA tourney alone that wished they could have not prepared themselves into the Final Four. Not to mention all those Division 1 coaches on the outside looking in on the tourney.

I think people see what they want to see, and more importantly perhaps, don't see what they don't want to see when it comes to a rival's coach. I know that I often have to scratch my head when I hear Coach K described by fans of other ACC schools. It's like they're looking at an entirely different person.

ugadevil
05-21-2008, 05:52 PM
There were 60 coaches in the NCAA tourney alone that wished they could have not prepared themselves into the Final Four. Not to mention all those Division 1 coaches on the outside looking in on the tourney.


Well put. It's better to have someone who's preparing to play for a spot in the championship instead of someone who's preparing to get an early-jump on recruiting.

Bostondevil
05-21-2008, 06:28 PM
As far as I know, the last Durham Jordan kid to play for UNC was Cliff Morris, a walk-on in the '80s and now a cardiologist. Also my classmate at Jordan.

Go Falcons!

Hmm, another Jordan kid at UNC. I can't root for him, but I probably won't too vocally root against him either.

Duvall
05-21-2008, 06:28 PM
Outside of the athletes, (even without bringing a full scholarship into the picture) I doubt Stanford loses more than five to eight kids per decade to a school like UNC-Chapel Hill.

Oh, come on.

wolfpackdevil
05-21-2008, 06:28 PM
Academically, it's the equivalent of comparing a nice American car, such as a Cadillac, with a world-class car, like a Maybach.

Outside of the athletes, (even without bringing a full scholarship into the picture) I doubt Stanford loses more than five to eight kids per decade to a school like UNC-Chapel Hill. The Stanford admissions staff does its best to track the data. Good luck to the basketball player.

The points you make are very true.

but i think we are a little to used to the acedemic greatness at Duke. Justin is just an average Durham kid, I played against him and hes a great guy with a great passion for bball.

The point is the an Average kid from Durham, NC is going to get an unbelievable education at UNC, he will also play for one of the top Basketball programs ever and he will get to stay close to his family and friends.

enough said

Clipsfan
05-21-2008, 07:31 PM
Academically, it's the equivalent of comparing a nice American car, such as a Cadillac, with a world-class car, like a Maybach.

Outside of the athletes, (even without bringing a full scholarship into the picture) I doubt Stanford loses more than five to eight kids per decade to a school like UNC-Chapel Hill. The Stanford admissions staff does its best to track the data. Good luck to the basketball player.

Stanford is similar to Duke in that it's non-revenue sports are good, it's the revenue sports which have been suffering recently. Given that many athletes in non-revenue sports look to the degree, I doubt that Stanford loses many athletes to UNC unless geography is a large issue.

devildeac
05-21-2008, 10:38 PM
I hate the Heels as much as the next guy. Probably more. But UNC is a good spot for a kid to spend four years and a degree from there is a pretty good thing. Plus, some want to go to a big school as opposed to a small school, etc., and UNC does have a litte bit of history.

Taking off my royal blue shades for a minute: if my kid had a choice of playing hoops at UNC, East Carolina, Fairfield, or George Mason, that would be a pretty easy choice.

Except the original reference was stanford/unc. However, hating the holes probably even more than you do, I can painfully see why a 18 year old would choose unc, a school about 10 miles from home when travel distance, family and other factors like that are considered.

George Mason however, is another story. They have owned the holes in recent years, IIRC:D.

Duke79UNLV77
05-22-2008, 08:21 AM
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-derozan14-2008may14,0,2935207.story

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/story/1074621.html

"If they can't make the tournament next year, that's what we're going to college for," Jermaine DeRozan said. "If you do your one year, you at least have to shine and get to the tournament with the intentions of winning it or get to the Elite Eight."

RelativeWays
05-22-2008, 08:36 AM
I forgot that going to a four year state university is barely one step above attending beauty college.

gvtucker
05-22-2008, 09:01 AM
I realize that we're talking about an in-state kid here, but it is worth noting that for an out-of-state kid, UNC and Stanford are about equally as selective.

Edouble
05-22-2008, 10:14 AM
I realize that we're talking about an in-state kid here, but it is worth noting that for an out-of-state kid, UNC and Stanford are about equally as selective.

...unless you're also a legacy.

gvtucker
05-22-2008, 10:18 AM
...unless you're also a legacy.

...or a major donor.

Which doesn't make Stanford or UNC any different than most any other selective university.

UrinalCake
05-22-2008, 11:03 AM
I realize that we're talking about an in-state kid here, but it is worth noting that for an out-of-state kid, UNC and Stanford are about equally as selective.

It might be true that the two schools accept a similar percentage of applicants (looking only at out-of-state students for UNC) but this does not mean they are equally as selective. The pool of applicants to UNC is huge, a lot of people want to go there for a lot of different reasons, but overall I would have to believe that students applying to Stanford have higher academic credentials than those applying to UNC.

ugadevil
05-22-2008, 11:39 AM
I forgot that going to a four year state university is barely one step above attending beauty college.

I'm hoping this is sarcastic in a positive way towards state universities.

RelativeWays
05-22-2008, 01:06 PM
I graduated from UNC-Greensboro, so thats a hint.