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gw67
05-09-2008, 08:38 AM
When the Plumlee brothers join up on the Duke team, they will be part of a small group of brothers who played together on the same major Division 1 team. I’m sure that there are a bunch more but I can only recall the Lopez twins at Stanford, Griffin brothers at Oklahoma, Stewart twins at USC, Grant brothers at Clemson, Mahaffey brothers at Clemson, Lewis brothers at Maryland, O’Bannon brothers at UCLA, McCray brothers at Louisville and, IMO, the best brother set, the Van Arsdale twins at Indiana. The Mahaffey brothers (4 of them) overlapped their careers during the 60’s.

Are there others?

gw67

MChambers
05-09-2008, 08:39 AM
When the Plumlee brothers join up on the Duke team, they will be part of a small group of brothers who played together on the same major Division 1 team. I’m sure that there are a bunch more but I can only recall the Lopez twins at Stanford, Griffin brothers at Oklahoma, Stewart twins at USC, Grant brothers at Clemson, Mahaffey brothers at Clemson, Lewis brothers at Maryland, O’Bannon brothers at UCLA, McCray brothers at Louisville and, IMO, the best brother set, the Van Arsdale twins at Indiana. The Mahaffey brothers (4 of them) overlapped their careers during the 60’s.

Are there others?

gw67

Thomas and Grant. Won back to back titles, as I recall. :)

Cormac
05-09-2008, 08:42 AM
But there was a set of twins that played for UAB when they upset #1 seed Kentucky as an 8 a couple of years ago. I remember, as I'm sure a lot of you do, that ridiculous no look, over his head pass after a steal from one twin to the next for a dunk. It was one of the coolest highlights I've seen in a game. Anyone else remember this or their names?

Cameron
05-09-2008, 09:00 AM
The Collins twins, Jarron and Jason (I believe), played at Stanford together as well. They were on the Casey Jacobsen team that knocked us off early season in '00-'01, if I recall correctly. Also, both went on to play in the NBA.

Devil in the Blue Dress
05-09-2008, 09:46 AM
What about the Rick Berry's sons? I think I remember at least two who played for Georgia Tech.

BD80
05-09-2008, 09:56 AM
What about the Rick Berry's sons? I think I remember at least two who played for Georgia Tech.

Drew and Jon Barry went to GaTech, but I don't think they overlapped. The other sons were Brent (Oregon St?) and Scooter (OK?).

EarlJam
05-09-2008, 09:59 AM
Did Jeff and Joe Wolf ever play together at UNC?

Weren't they related??

BD80
05-09-2008, 10:03 AM
Jarvis and Jervis Hayes played for Georgia about 4 years ago.

IStillHateJimBain
05-09-2008, 10:14 AM
Bobby Stokes and Ricky Stokes at UVa, but I don't think their careers overlapped. I know Bobby Stokes played on UVa's 1976 championship team and Ricky played with Ralph Sampson so they were a few years apart.

gvtucker
05-09-2008, 10:50 AM
Horace and Harvey Grant went to Clemson together, IIRC. Harvey redshirted his freshman year, Horace didn't, and then Horace got a decent bit more playing time the next year, so Harvey transferred out, first to junior college and eventually to Oklahoma.

gw67
05-09-2008, 10:51 AM
I remembered the Barry and Stokes brothers and forgot about the Wolf brothers. None of these brothers played on the same team at the same time. The Hayes brothers (twins?) were accomplished players.

gw67

Channing
05-09-2008, 10:56 AM
Jarvis and Jervis Hayes played for Georgia about 4 years ago.

I think it was actually jarvis and jonas.

crimsonandblue
05-09-2008, 11:13 AM
Scooter Barry played at Kansas on the '88 title team.

Next year Kansas will have Marcus and Markieff Morris, twins from New Jersey.

Wichita State, in some of their darker years, had twins, the Praylows. They weren't very good.

Omar and Jordan Wilkes (sons of Jamaal) played some together at Cal after Omar transferred out of Kansas when Roy left.

Olympic Fan
05-09-2008, 11:29 AM
Just checked ... the Lewis brothers (Derrick and Cedric) overlapped one season at Maryland (1988). The Stokes brothers (Bobby and Rickey) just missed each other at Virginia. The Grant brothers (Horace and Harvey) only played together one season at Clemson (1984). Harvey did redshirt in 1983, when Horace played, then after 1984, Harvey transffered to Oklahoma (he started on the 1988 team that lost in the NCAA finals to Danny and the Miracles). The Wolf brothers at UNC (Joe and Jeff) never played together. Neither did the Brust brothers (Chris and Matt) in the early 1980s. Jay and Tom McMillen never overlapped at Maryland. Jon and Drew Barry just missed each other at Georgia Tech.

The Mahaffey's overlapped some. Let's see -- in started with Tom, who played in 1960, 1961 and 1962. Donnie played in 1962, 1963 and 1964. Randy played in 1965, 1966 and 1967. Richie played in 1967, 1968 and 1970 (he missed 69 with an injury). So even though they had four brothers playing in one 11-year span, they never had more than two at a time. In fact, the only overlap was Tom and Donnie in 1962; Richie and Randy in 1967.**

N.C. State also had the Walker brothers (Steve and Brian) in 1977 ... but they both transferred back to Purdue together.

In addition to all the other brother combos mentioned, keep in mind that UNC will add a brother combo when Duke does -- the Wear twins (Travis and David) will enroll at UNC when Mason arrives at Duke.

**In view of the speculation about what Duke will put on the back of their jersies when Miles and Mason play together, it's interesting that the records for Clemson in 1967 refer to Ri. Mahaffey and Ra. Mahaffey.

Also, the ACC tracks brother combinations and eight brother groups have combined to score 1,000-plus points in league history: 1. The Mahaffey's (3,555); 2. The McMillen's (3,107), 3. The Capels (Jeff at Duke, Jason at UNC: 3,048), 4. The Barrys (2,333); 5. The Lewis's (1,993); 6. The Grants (counting only points scored in the ACC: 1,840); 7. The Wolf's (1,590) and 8. The Stokes's (1,318).

DukeDude
05-09-2008, 12:46 PM
Penn State rode the Crispin brothers to the NCAA tourney. They also combined for 57 points in this notable win (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores100/100330/100330411.htm).

guybrush
05-09-2008, 12:53 PM
Ronell & Donell Taylor at UAB

crote
05-09-2008, 01:10 PM
Ronell & Donell Taylor at UAB

The Taylor twins were great. They wore numbers 1 and 2. The one who wore #1 sported two long socks in honor of his brother, the guy who wore #2 wore one long sock.

They were responsible for one of my all time favorite NCAA plays, too:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hyKsOwfeXRo

hc5duke
05-09-2008, 03:09 PM
Rodrick Stewart and Lodrick Stewart were supposed to play for Matt Doherty's UNC squad, but something happened (I can't remember, but I think it was a case of miscommunication) and Lodrick ended up going to U$C, while Rodrick is at Kansas.

juise
05-09-2008, 03:16 PM
Penn State rode the Crispin brothers to the NCAA tourney. They also combined for 57 points in this notable win (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores100/100330/100330411.htm).

They combined for 26 points (on 9-32 shooting) in this win (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/college/men/boxscores/2001/03/18/nav_paf/).

gw67
05-09-2008, 03:23 PM
I'm pretty sure that the Stewart twins played for a year at USC and then one of them transferred to Kansas after his freshman year. They were really hyped when they were considering UNC. I believe injuries may have played a role but I got the impression that neither was a particularly good shooter and neither shared the ball when they got their hands on it.

gw67

Olympic Fan
05-09-2008, 03:26 PM
Rodrick Stewart and Lodrick Stewart were supposed to play for Matt Doherty's UNC squad, but something happened (I can't remember, but I think it was a case of miscommunication) and Lodrick ended up going to U$C, while Rodrick is at Kansas.

Actually, what happened was that when the Stewarts played in the AAU Tournament of Champs in Chapel Hill as sophomores, UNC fans and the UNC-mob in the media went nuts over them. The twins told reporters that they wanted to play for UNC and a lot of people assumed it was a done deal.

In truth, the Stewarts were never offered by UNC. Matt Doherty, in one of his rare moments of lucidity, held off to see how they developed.

As it turned out, they developed into good, but not great prospects. Both twins enrolled at Southern Cal. Lodrick played out his career there, playing his last game against UNC in the 2007 NCAA Tournament. Roderick had transferred to Kansas. Because he sat out a year, he was a fifth-year senior on this year's Kansas team that beat UNC in the semifinals, then edged Memphis to win the title. He didn't play a lot, but he was part of the rotation.

slower
05-09-2008, 03:42 PM
Dick and Tom Van Arsdale were pretty good college (Indiana U.) and NBA players, both drafted in the 2nd round of the 1965 draft (with the 10th and 11th overall picks, respectively).

An interesting side note: former ACC referee Larry Lembo was selected with the 28th pick of that same draft. And - I kid you not - the 50th pick was named - wait for it - John Rambo! Duke's Hack Tison was selected 53rd.

crimsonandblue
05-09-2008, 04:18 PM
I'm pretty sure that the Stewart twins played for a year at USC and then one of them transferred to Kansas after his freshman year. They were really hyped when they were considering UNC. I believe injuries may have played a role but I got the impression that neither was a particularly good shooter and neither shared the ball when they got their hands on it.

gw67

Lodrick was a good shooter (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=15318), or at least, quite a good scorer. Rodrick was a good defensive player, but not as good on the ball. You're right that Lod and Rod were both at USC as freshmen. Rod didn't get the minutes his brother got and left.

DukeDude
05-09-2008, 05:19 PM
They combined for 26 points (on 9-32 shooting) in this win (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/college/men/boxscores/2001/03/18/nav_paf/).

Long live the Crispins!

jma4life
05-09-2008, 10:09 PM
Though they did not play on the same team, I cannot pass up on the opportunity to mention Majestic and Scientific Mapp who played at UVA and I believe Florida A&M respectively.

Bay Area Duke Fan
05-09-2008, 10:29 PM
The Ricketts brothers, Dick and Dave, played together at Duquesne in the early-mid 1950s when the Dukes were a national hoops power. Dick was a first team AA in 1955 when the Dukes won the NIT championship.

devildeac
05-10-2008, 12:09 AM
Does Nigel Dixon count as brothers/twins who played at f$u several years ago? He was large enough to be a set of twins/brothers:o .

hc5duke
05-10-2008, 12:18 AM
Does Nigel Dixon count as brothers/twins who played at f$u several years ago? He was large enough to be a set of twins/brothers:o .

Ahh Good ol' Nigel. I recall there was another Dixon on the team, and there was a somewhat inappropriate sign "Two Dixon No Play" in Cameron one game.

Edouble
05-10-2008, 01:29 AM
George and Stewart Lowell both played at New Mexico for two seasons, '67-'68 and '68-'69. I think one of them got kicked off the team later, but I can't say for sure.

gw67
05-10-2008, 07:39 AM
The Van Arsdales were 6-5 identical twins and their play and records were as similar as their looks. They were All Big Ten and All American players at Indiana in the mid 60's. During their three year careers, Tom scored 12 more points and had 4 more rebounds than Dick. They continued this "identical" play in the pros. They each played for 12 years and Tom averaged 15.3 ppg and 4.2 rpg while Dick averaged 16.4 ppg and 4.1 rpg.

gw67

1Devil
05-10-2008, 10:08 AM
Marty and Mark Bodnar were twins who played for Michigan in the 1977-81 timeframe. Both were long-range shooters and Marty played a lot and was very good. Mark's career was injury-plagued as I recall.

A Google search reveals that Marty Bodnar is now Michigan's ticket manager.

gw67
05-10-2008, 11:52 AM
I had forgotten about the Bodnar twins. A part of my family lives near Barberton, Ohio and two of my younger cousins went to high school with the Bodnars. They and another youngster whose name I can't remember (Perhaps Scott - he went to Ohio State) led Barberton to the Ohio state championship.

Another pair of twins I forgot were the Feldman twins at George Washington. They formed the backcourt for GWU for three years (in the early 60's, I believe) and neither was bashful about throwing up a lot of shots.

gw67

OZZIE4DUKE
05-11-2008, 10:05 AM
Thomas and Grant. Won back to back titles, as I recall. :)

Ah, yes. They were part of that great (law or accounting) firm of Laettner, Hurley, Hill, Hill and Associates!

devildeac
05-11-2008, 11:21 AM
Ah, yes. They were part of that great (law or accounting) firm of Laettner, Hurley, Hill, Hill and Associates!

Good analogy. I can't decide whether they would be a law firm because they "ruled" on the "court" or an accounting firm because their "numbers" were so good and their balance sheets were always highly positive:D .