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mr. synellinden
03-13-2008, 03:13 PM
I came across this today and thought it was interesting. It should be a good reminder why we shouldn't get all twisted around recruiting rankings. These are the top 100 recruits in the class of 2001 - as ranked by ESPN.com.

Anyone remember Jonathan Hargett? Or Harvey Thomas? Or Of the top 50, other than Ben Gordon, T.J. Ford, Curry and Chandler, who has made a name for themselves in the NBA? I guess Lee and Childress have had some degree of success. Boy, this was a weak class.

1. Dajuan Wagner 6-1, 190 Camden H.S. (Camden, N.J.) Memphis
2. Ousmane Cisse 6-7, 230 St. Jude HS (Montgomery, AL) NBA
3. Julius Hodge 6-6, 180 St. Raymond HS (Bronx, NY) North Carolina State
4. Kelvin Torbert 6-3, 190 Northwestern HS (Flint, Mich.) Michigan State
5. Jonathan Hargett 5-11, 185 National Christian HS (Fort Washington, Md.) West Virginia
6. Julian Sensley 6-9, 230 St. Thomas More Prep (Oakdale, Ct.) California
7. Eddy Curry 6-11, 285 Thornwood HS (South Holland, Ill.) NBA
8. Tyson Chandler 7-0, 215 Dominguez HS (Compton, Calif.) NBA
9. Harvey Thomas 6-9, 215 Has left Montrose Christian HS (Rockville, Md.) Georgetown
10. Kwame Brown 6-11, 235 Glynn Academy (Brunswick, Ga.) Florida
11. Maurice Williams 6-2, 180 Murrah HS (Jackson, Miss.) Alabama
12. Carlos Hurt 6-1, 170 Elsik HS (Alief, Texas) Louisville
13. Terrance Ford 5-10, 170 Willowridge HS (Sugar Land, Texas) Texas
14. Jamal Sampson 6-11, 230 Mater Dei HS (Santa Ana, Calif.) California
15. Jawad Williams 6-7, 185 St. Edward HS (Lakewood, Ohio) North Carolina
16. Josh Childress 6-5, 180 Mayfair HS (Lakewood, Calif.) Stanford
17. Marco Killingsworth 6-8, 225 Central Park Christian HS (Birmingham, Ala.) Auburn
18. David Lee 6-7, 213 Chaminade HS (St. Louis, Mo.) Florida
19. Rick Rickert 6-11, 220 East HS (Duluth, Minn.) Minnesota
20. James White 6-7, 185 Hargrave Military Academy (Chatham, Va.) Florida
21. DeSagana Diop 6-11, 270 Oak Hill Academy (Mouth of Wilson, Va.) Undecided
22. Rashaad Carruth 6-2, 175 Oak Hill Academy (Mouth of Wilson, Va.) Kentucky
23. Aaron Miles 6-1, 170 Jefferson HS (Portland, Ore.) Kansas
24. Daniel Ewing 6-4, 180 Willowridge HS (Sugar Land, Texas) Duke
25. Deng Gia 6-10, 230 Winchendon Prep (Winchendon, Ma.) Undecided
26. Jermaine Watson 6-2, 193 Tabor Academy (Marion, Mass.) Boston College
27. Robert Whaley 6-9, 230 Benton Harbor HS (Benton Harbor, Mich.) Missouri
28. Tony Key 6-11, 270 Centennial HS (Compton, Calif.) Open
29. Levi Watkins 6-7, 225 Montrose Christian (Rockville, Md.) North Carolina State
30. Charles Frederick 6-0, 170 Pope John Paul II HS (Boca Raton, Fla.) Washington (football)
31. Dennis Latimore 6-8, 235 Halstead HS (Halstead, Kan.) Arizona
32. Billy Edelin 6-2, 175 Oak Hill Academy (Mouth of Wilson, Va.) Syracuse
33. John Allen 6-5, 190 Coatesville HS (Coatesville, Pa.) Seton Hall
34. Ben Gordon 6-2, 175 Mount Vernon HS (Mount Vernon, N.Y.) Connecticut
35. Brandon Bender 6-10, 245 Ballard HS (Louisville, Ky.) Undecided
36. Andre Patterson 6-6, 195 Washington Prep HS (Los Angeles, Calif.) UCLA
37. Will Bynum 5-10, 170 Crane Tech HS (Chicago, Ill.) Arizona
38. Jackie Manuel 6-6, 185 Cardinal Newman HS (Boca Raton, Fla.) North Carolina
39. Omari Westley 6-6, 200 Crispus Attucks HS (York, Pa.) Undecided
40. Taurence Johnson 6-8, 220 Faith Christian HS (Collingswood, N.J.) Florida International
41. Cedric Bozeman 6-4, 175 Mater Dei HS (Santa Ana, Calif.) UCLA
42. Broderick Collins 6-7, 220 H.L. Bourgeois HS (Gray, La.) Undecided
43. Rory O'Neil 6-11, 215 Burroughs H.S. (Ridgecrest, Calif.) USC
44. Greg Tinch 6-4, 220 Westover HS (Albany, Ga.) Undecided
45. Errick Craven 6-2, 185 Bishop Montgomery HS (Torrance, Calif.) USC
46. Keith Langford 6-3, 175 North Crowley HS (Fort Worth, Texas) Kansas
47. Jermaine Harper 6-3, 175 Blue Ridge Prep (St. George, Va.) Virginia
48. Najeeb Echols 6-7, 220 Whitney-Young HS (Chicago, Ill.) Missouri
49. Hakeem Warwick 6-8, 190 Friends Central HS (Wynnewood, Pa.) Syracuse
50. Rob Little 6-10, 260 Pope Paul VI HS (Fairfax, Va.) Stanford
51. Travis Diener 6-0, 154 Goodrich HS (Fond du Lac, Wis.) Marquette
52. Dwayne Mitchell 6-4, 200 Kennedy HS (New Orleans, La.) Auburn
53. Quemont Greer 6-6, 215 Berkshire HS (Homestead, Fla.) DePaul
54. Jason Maxiell 6-6, 220 Newman-Smith HS (Carrollton, Texas) Cincinnati
55. Keith Jennifer 6-3, 185 Hargrave Military Academy (Chatham, Va.) Virginia
56. Kenny Adeleke 6-7, 200 Robeson HS (Brooklyn, N.Y) DePaul
57. Angelo Estes 6-7, 190 Booker T. Washington HS (Tulsa, Okla.) Colorado State
58. Marcus Campbell 7-0, 260 Westover HS (Albany, Ga.) Mississippi State
59. Dijon Thompson 6-7, 180 Redondo Union HS (Redondo Beach, Calif.) UCLA
60. Josh Powell 6-9, 225 Riverdale, Ga. North Carolina State
61. David Harrison 6-11, 260 Brentwood Academy (Brentwood, Tenn.) Colorado
62. Chris McRae 6-3, 190 St. Raymond?s HS (Bronx, NY) Hofstra
63. Is'mail Muhammad 6-5, 210 W.D. Muhammed HS (Atlanta, Ga.) Georgia Tech
64. Brandon Fuss-Cheatham 6-0, 170 Blackhawk HS (Beaver Falls, Pa.) Ohio State
65. Jason Braxton 6-3, 180 Canyon Springs HS (Moreno Valley, Calif.) Arizona State
66. Eddie Basden 6-5, 185 Eleanor Roosevelt HS (Upper Marlboro, Md.) Massachusetts
67. Cortez Davis 6-6, 185 Friendly HS (Ft. Washington, Md.) Undecided
68. Salim Stoudamire 6-2, 180 Lake Oswego HS (Lake Oswego, Ore.) Arizona
69. Ernest Turner 6-2, 185 Sterling HS (Somerdale, NJ) UNLV
70. Melvin Scott 6-1, 167 Southern HS (Baltimore, Md.) North Carolina
71. Allan Anderson 6-4, 195 De La Salle HS (Minneapolis, Min.) Michigan State
72. Wayne Simien 6-7, 240 Leavenworth HS (Leavenworth, Kan.) Kansas
73. Anthony Richardson 6-8, 205 Leesville Road HS (Raleigh, NC) Florida State
74. Elton Brown 6-8, 235 Warwick HS (Newport News, Va.) Virginia
75. Chris Charles 7-0, 235 235 Life Center HS (Burlington, NJ) Seton Hall
76. Maurice Hargrow 6-3, 169 Highland Park HS (St. Paul, Minn.) Minnesota
77. Simplice Njoya 6-10, 220 Berkshire HS (Homestead, Fla.) UNLV
78. Anton Palmer 6-6, 190 Julian HS (Chicago, Ill.) Undecided
79. Dommanic Ingerson 6-2, 175 Santa Barbara HS (Santa Barbara, Calif) Michigan
80. Chris Thomas 6-2, 180 Pike HS (Indianapolis, Ind.) Notre Dame
81. Drew Schifino 6-3, 180 Bridgton Academy (North Bridgton, Maine) West Virginia
82. Winsome Frazier 6-3, 170 Northwestern HS (Miami, Fla.) Mississippi State
83. Jaquan Hart 6-5, 185 Northern HS (Flint, Mich.) Michigan
84. Michael Clayton 6-2, 186 Christian Life Academy (Baton Rouge, La.) LSU (football)
85. Che' Christie 6-3, 185 Biloxi HS (Biloxi, Miss.) Clemson
86. Lamar Roberts 6-8, 220 Lamar HS (Houston, Texas) Baylor
87. Vytautus Danielus 6-7, 210 Park Tudor HS (Indianapolis, Ind.) Wake Forest
88. Anthony Davis 6-5, 210 Centennial HS (Compton, Calif.) Long Beach State
89. Jonathan Loe 6-3, 180 Bartlett HS (Memphis, Tenn.) Mississippi
90. Anthony Rice 6-4, 180 North Clayton HS (Riverdale, Ga.) Memphis
91. Ernest Shelton 6-3, 185 White Station HS (Memphis, Tenn.) Alabama
92. Barry Elder 6-4, 200 Morgan County HS (Madison, Ga.) Georgia Tech
93. Keith Jackson 6-4, 190 Purcell-Marian HS (Cincinnati, Ohio) Xavier
94. Levar Seals 6-3, 175 Providence-St. Mel HS (Chicago, Ill.) DePaul
95. Derek Stribling 6-5, 200 Rickards HS (Tallahassee, Fla.) Tennessee
96. Chris Hernandez 6-2, 180 Clovis West HS (Fresno, Calif.) Stanford
97. Matt Sylvester 6-7, 205 Moeller HS (Cincinnati, Ohio) Ohio State
98. Jordan Collins 6-10, 235 DeMatha HS (Hyattsville, Md.) North Carolina State
99. Pierre Pierce 6-4, 190 Westmont HS (Westmont, Ill.) Iowa
100. Erik Bond 6-7, 205 Seattle Prep HS (Seattle, Wash.)

mr. synellinden
03-13-2008, 03:21 PM
If this list were put together now, it would go:

46 - Jefferson
9 - Prince
3- Lewis
18 - Maggette
1 - Harrington
21- Miller
96 - Walton
66- Murphy


PLAYER HT. POS. HOMETOWN (H.S.) RECRUITED BY
1. Al Harrington 6-8 PF Elizabeth, N.J.
(St. Patrick) NCSt, StJohn's, Seton Hall, Villa, GaTech
2. Korleone Young 6-7 PF Chatham, Va.
(Hargrave) UCLA, UNLV, CT, AR, OK
3. Rashard Lewis 6-9 C Alief, Texas
(Alief-Elsik) Alabama, Houston, Texas, TCU, FSU
4. Stromile Swift 6-8 C Shreveport, La.
(Fair Park) LSU, Georgetown, UCLA

5. Dan Gadzuric 6-11 C Byfield, Mass.
(Dummer Acad.) UCLA, KU, GW, UK, CT, MA, Wake, NBA

6. Joel Pryzbilla 7-0 C Monticello, Minn.
(Monticello) Committed-Minnesota
7. Ron Curry 6-3 PG Hampton, Va.
(Hampton) Committed-UNC
8. Quentin Richardson 6-5 WF Chicago
(Whitney Young) Committed-DePaul

9. Tayshaun Prince 6-8 WF Compton, Calif.
(Dominguez) Committed-Kentucky
10. Corey Hightower 6-6 WF Durham, N.C.
(Mt. Zion) NBA, Mich. St., Mich.

11. Ray Young 6-5 2G Alameda, Calif.
(St. Joseph) Committed-UCLA
12. Ted Dupay 5-10 PG Cape Coral, Fla.
(Mariner) Committed-Florida

13. Anthony Glover 6-5 PF New York, N.Y.
(Rice) St.John's, Seton Hall, Rutgers, AR

14. Douglas Wrenn 6-7 WF Seattle, Wash.
(O'Dea) Committed-Washington


15. Dane Fife 6-4 2G Clarkston, Mich.
(Clarkston) Committed-Indiana
16. Kevin Lyde 6-10 C Mth of Wilson, Va.
(Oak Hill Acad.) Committed-Temple
17. Jaron Rush 6-6 WF Kansas City, Mo.
(Pembroke Hill) Committed-UCLA

18. Corey Maggette 6-5 WF Oak Park, Ill.
(Fenwick) Committed-Duke
19. Bobby Simmons 6-6 WF Chicago
(Simeon) Committed-DePaul
20. Vincent Yarbrough 6-6 WF Cleveland, Tenn.
(Cleveland) Committed-Tennessee

21. Mike Miller 6-8 WF Mitchell, SD
(Mitchell) Committed-Florida

22. Frank Williams 6-3 PG Peoria, Ill.
(Manual) Committed-Illinois
23. Lloyd Price 6-5 WF Newark, Del.
(Hudgson) Committed-Xavier

24. Jason Capel 6-7 WF Frederick, Md.
(Prospect Hall) Committed-North Carolina

25. Lance Williams 6-9 C Chicago
(Julian) Committed-DePaul

26. Kris Lang 6-9 PF Gastonia, N.C.
(Hunter Hess) Committed-UNC

27. Danny Miller 6-6 WF Mt. Holly, N.J.
(Rancocas Valley) Committed-Maryland

28. Antonio Latimer 6-8 PF Melbourne, FL
(Florida Air) Committed-DePaul

29. B.B. Walden 6-8 PF Lakeland, Fla.
(Kathleen) Committed-South Florida

30. Robert Jackson 6-8 PF Milwaukee
(Washington) Committed-Miss State

31. Adam Harrington 6-5 2G Northfield, Mass
(Pioneer Valley) Committed-NC State

32. Paris London 6-7 WF Memphis, Tenn.
(Hamilton) Committed-Memphis

33. Fred Jones 6-4 2G Gresham, Ore.
(Barlow) Committed-Oregon

34. Chris
Richardson 6-7 WF Carroll, Texas
(Corpus Christi) Committed-UNLV

35. Souleymane
Camara 6-11 C Mth of Wilson, Va.
(Oak Hill Academy) Committed-Kentucky

36. Keyon Dooling 6-2 PG Ft.Lauderdale, Fla.
(Gibbons) Committed-Missouri

37. Rasual Butler 6-7 WF Philadelphia
(Roman Cath.) Committed-LaSalle

38. Travis Robinson 6-7 WF Durham, N.C.
(Mt. Zion) Committed-Missouri
39. Clarence
Gilbert 6-1 2G Ft. Lauderdale, Fla.
(Dillard) Committed-Missouri

40. Tony Kitchings 6-9 C Aiken, S.C.
(South Aiken) Committed-South Carolina
41. Tony Bland 6-5 PG Los Angeles
(Westchester) Committed-Syracuse

42. Jose Winston 5-11 PG Milwaukee
(Vincent) Committed-Colorado

43. Jeff Boschee 6-1 PG Valley City, ND
(Valley City) Committed-Kansas

44. Ricky Anderson 6-8 PF Long Bch, Calif.
(Poly) Utah, UCLA

45. Ronald Blackshear 6-3 2G Camilla, Ga.
(Mitchell Baker) Clemson, Alabama, Auburn, Ga., UK, GaTech

46. Richard Jefferson 6-7 WF Phoenix
(Moon Valley) Committed-Arizona

47. David Hamilton 6-9 PF Compton, CA
(Compton) Committed-Auburn


48. Fred Primus 6-2 2G Middleburg, Va. (Notre Dame) Committed-Pittsburgh

49. DeAngelo McDaniel 6-9 PF Oklahoma City
(John Marshall) Committed-Tulsa

50. Brandon Dean 6-0 PG Monroe, LA
(Quachita Parlaish) Clemson, LSU, Cincy

51. Marqus
Ledoux 6-7 PF Baton Rouge, La.
(Parkview Baptist) Memphis, CT, Tulane, AR, MissSt, TN

52. Michael Wright 6-8 PF Chicago
(Farragut) Committed-Arizona

53. Matt Barnes 6-7 WF Fair Oaks, Calif.
(Del Campo) Committed-UCLA

54. Ladarius Halton 6-4 2G New Smyrna, Fla.
(New Smyrna) Committed-Florida

55. Tony Akins 6-0 PG Berkmar (H.S.) Ga.
(New Smyrna) BC, Clemson, MI, GaTech

56. Mack McGadney 6-7 WF Mobile, AL
(LeFlore) Committed-Auburn

57. Kyle Hornsby 6-5 WF Anacoca, La.
(Anacoca) Committed-Indiana
58. Ruben Douglas 6-5 SG Burbank, Calif.
(Bellarmine) Committed-Arizona
59. Dennis Gates 6-4 SG Chicago
(Whitney Young) DePaul leads


60. Brian Brown 6-3 2G Brooklyn, N.Y.
(Bishop Loughlin) Committed-Ohio State

61. Dahntey Jones 6-5 WF Hamilton, N.J.
(Steinert) Committed-Rutgers
62. Vohn Hunter 6-4 WF Bronx, NY
(St. Raymond's) Committed-Texas

63. Louis Truscott 6-6 PF Columbia, Texas
(West Columbia) Houston, Texas, UL

64. Kueth Duany 6-5 WF Bloomington, Ind.
(North) Committed-Syracuse

65. Udonis Haslem 6-9 C Miami
(Senior) Committed-Florida

66. Troy Murphy 6-9 PF Morristown, NJ
(Delbarton) Committed-Notre Dame

67. Scott Clark 6-4 2G Charlestown, Mass.
(Charlestown) Committed-Massachusetts

68. Traves Wilson 6-3 2G Moline, IL
(Moline) Committed-Arizona

69. Sam Clancy 6-7 PF Cleveland
(St. Edward) Committed-USC

70. Eugene Land 6-7 PF Cincinnati
(Roger Bacon) Committed-Cincinnati

71. Keith Bean 6-8 PF Pittsfield, Maine
(Maine C. Inst.) Committed-NC State

72. Kevin Braswell 6-0 2G Baltimore
(Lake Clifton) Pitt, Georgia, Cincy, Clemson, Cal


73. Cedric Taylor 6-8 PF Houston, Texas
(Memphis J.C.) Memphis, Houston, Tulane

74. Janerio Spurlock 6-5 SG Cincinnati
(Aiken) UL, Cincy, Ohio St., Xavier, Syracuse
75. Jermaine Clarke 6-4 2G Elizabeth, N.J.
(St. Patrick) Committed-St. Bonaventure

76. John Salmons 6-6 WF Plymouth Mting,Pa.
(Plym.Whitemarsh) SH, Iona, PennSt., WV


77. Caleb Vinson 6-4 PG New Britain, CT
(St. Thomas Aquinas) Committed-Rhode Island
78. Broderick Hicks 6-0 PG Houston
(Strake Jesuit) Committed-Wake Forest

79. Zach Marbury 6-3 PG Temple Hills, MD
(Crossland) Mich., Cincy, NM, Minn., Clemson, MO


80. Antwan Scott 6-8 PF Mth of Wilson, VA
(Oak Hill) Committed-Wake Forest


81. Ontario Harper 6-5 2G Clinto, Miss.
(Clinton) Committed-Miss State

82. Ernest Brown 6-11 C Cheshire, Conn.
(Academy) Committed-St. John's

83. Terrell Riggs 6-6 WF Detroit
(Finney) Committed-Detroit

84. Will Soloman 6-1 PG East Hartford, Conn.
(East Hartford) MD, Pitt, USC, Rutgers

85. Chris Williams 6-6 WF Adamsville, Ala.
(Minor) Committed-Virginia


86. Malcolm Battles 6-8 PF Troy, AL
(Henderson) AL, Auburn, LSU


87. Senque Carey 6-4 2G Mountain View, Calif.
(Mountain View) Committed-Washington

88. Alex Wesby 6-5 WF Philadelphia
(Ben Franklin) Temple, MA, St.Josephs, Siena


89. Cordell Henry 5-9 PG Chicago
(Whitney Young) Committed-Marquette



90. Chris Jefferies 6-7 WF Fresno, Calif.
(Washington) Committed-Arkansas

91. Jermaine Williams 6-6 2G Baton Rouge, La.
(Parkview Baptist) Memphis, LSU, Ark, UL, Tulane, Miss. St.

92. Steve Bynes 6-8 PF Ft. Lauderdale, FL
(Boyd Anderson) MO, Temple

93. Antonio Gates 6-4 WF Detroit
(Central) Mich. St--football

94. Desmond Herod 6-5 WF Brooklyn, N.Y.
(Adelphi Academy) Committed-UNLV

95. J.R. Van Hoose 6-9 C Paintsville, Ken.
(Paintsville) Committed-Marshall

96. Luke Walton 6-8 WF San Diego
(University) Committed-Arizona

97. Syniker Taylor 6-1 PG Gulfport, MS
(Gulfport) Committed-Mississippi

98. Damon Hancock 6-4 PG Lancaster, Texas
(Lancaster) Committed-SMU

99. Altron Jackson 6-5 WF Sarasota, FL
(Riverview) Committed-South Florida


100. Phil Cullen 6-9 PF Chelan, WA
(Chelan) Committed-Utah

whereinthehellami
03-13-2008, 03:23 PM
Its always fun to look back at past classes and see how they have done. I agree this seems like a pretty weak class in general.

mr. synellinden
03-13-2008, 03:29 PM
I'd say Coach K went after the right guys in this class, wouldn't you?

Re-ordering:

21. Boozer
36. Johnson
44. Richardson
35. Dalembert
14. Dunleavy
8. Kapono
9. Blake
20. Collison
11. Cook

My guess is that J-will would currently be #1 or #2 on this list if it weren't for the accident.


No. Player Pos. Ht. School College
1. DerMarr Johnson G/F 6-9 Kensington (Md.) Newport
2. Jonathan Bender F 6-11 Picayune, Miss.
3. Matt Bonner PF 6-9 Concord, N.H.
4. Damien Wilkins WF 6-6 Kensington (Md.) Newport
5. Keith Bogans G/F 6-4 Hyattsville (Md.) DeMatha
6. Brett Nelson G 6-3 St. Albans, W.Va. Florida
7. Donnell Harvey PF 6-7 Shellman (Ga.) Randolph-Clay
8. Jason Kapono WF 6-7 Lakewood (Calif.) Artesia
9. Steven Blake PG 6-3 Miami (Fla.) Senior Maryland
10. Joe Forte 2G 6-4 Hyattsville (Md.) DeMatha
11. Brian Cook C/F 6-10 Lincoln (Ill.) Illinois
12. Marvin Stone C/F 6-10 Huntsville (Ala.) Grissom
13. Matt Carroll G/F 6-6 Horsham (Pa.) Hatsboro-Horsham
14. Micheal Dunleavy 2G 6-5 Portland (Ore.) Jesuit
15. Todd Billet PG 6-0 Lincroft (N.J.) Christian Brothers
16. Toney Robertson G 6-3 Barrington (R.I.) St. Andrews
17. Casey Sanders C/F 6-10 Tampa (Fla.) Prep
18. Jason Williams G 6-2 Metuchen (N.J.) St. Josephs
19. Kenny Satterfield 1/2G 6-2 New York (N.Y.) Rice
20. Nick Collison PF 6-9 Iowa Falls, Iowa
21. Carlos Boozer PF 6-8 Juneau (Alaska)Douglas
22. Marques Daniels G/F 6-7 Durham Mount Zion
23. Kevin Gaines PG 6-3 Las Vegas Clark
24. Ronald Slay P/WF 6-7 1/2 Mouth of Wilson (Va.) Oak Hill Tennessee
25. Jason Parker C/F 6-8 West Charlotte
26. Josh Moore C 7-0 Jersy City (N.J.) St. Anthony
27. Erwin Dudley WF 6-6 Uniontown (Ala.) Hatch
28. George Williams P/WF 6-8 Missouri City (Texas) Elkins
29. Casey Jacobsen G/F 6-6 Glendora, Calif.
30. Shane Schilling WF 6-6 Minnetonka, Minn.
31. Stephen Hunter C 6-11 Durham Mount Zion
32. Jason Gardner PG 5-11 Indianapolis North Central
33. Antonio Falu 1/2G 6-5 Houston (Texas) Waltrip
34. Andrew Sullivan P/WF 6-7 Richland (N.J.) St. Augustine
35. Samuel Dalembert C 6-11 Elizabeth (N.J.)St. Patrick
36. Joe Johnson WF 6-6 Little Rock (Ark.) Central
37. Ron Grizzard G/F 6-7 Birmingham (Ala.) Central Park Christian
38. Roger Mason 2G 6-3 Wheaton (Md.) Good Counsel
39. Brian Wethers 2G 6-5 Murrieta (Calif.) Valley
40. LaVelle Blanchard G/F 6-5 Ann Arbor (Mich.) Pioneer
41. Leon Smith C 6-10 Chicago Martin Luther King Jr.
42. Chuck Eidson G/F 6-7 Summerville (S.C.) Pinewood South Carolina
43. Tim Lyles PG 6-0 Durham Mount Zion
44. Jason Richardson WF 6-6 Saginaw (Mich.) Arthur Hill
45. DeShaun Williams 2G 6-2 1/2 Paterson (N.J.) Catholic
46. Gavin Groninger 2G 6-4 Plainfield, Ind.
47. Reese Gaines G/F 6-6 Madison (Wis.) Westy
48. Travis Watson PF 6-7 Mouth of Wilson (Va.) Oak Hill
49. Majestic Mapp PG 6-2 Bronx (N.Y.) St. Raymond
50. Nathan Popp C 7-2 Lexington (Ky.) Catholic
51. Antonio Meeking PF 6-7 Farmerville, La.
52. Marshall Williams G/F 6-5 Milwaukee Vincent
53. Edward Scott PG 6-0 Hopkins (S.C.) Lower Richland
54. Ben Johnson 2G 6-3 Minneapolis DeLaSalle
55. Adam Wolfe PF 6-8 1/2 Westerville, Ohio Michigan State
56. Derrick Payne WF 6-6 Durham Mount Zion
57. Ezra Williams 2G 6-4 Marietta, Ga.
58. Curtis Borchardt PF 6-10 Redmond (Wash.) Eastlake
59. Rafael Berumen C 6-9 Simi Valley (Calif.) Simi Valley
60. Marcus Cox 1/2G 6-3 1/2 Bridgeport (Conn.) Kolbe
61. Brian Jackson C/F 6-10 Astoria (Ore.) Knappa
62. Charles Tatum PG 5-9 Midland, Texas
63. Kenneth Walker PF 6-8 Jacksonville (Fla.) Wolfson
64. Donnell Knight PF 6-8 Phoenix (Ariz.) St. Marys
65. Alonzo Lane PF 6-7 Canton, Miss. Mississippi St.
66. Vincent Hart PF 6-7 Gary (Ind.) West Side
67. Tony Bobbitt 2G 6-4 Daytona Beach (Fla.) Mainland Florida State
68. Joe Sykes C 6-9 Radcliff (Ky.) North Hardin Louisville
69. Tito Maddox 2G 6-4 Compton, Calif.
70. John Grove C 6-10 Grove City (Pa.) George Cincinnati
71. Stephane Pelle C/F 6-8 Mercersburg (Pa.) Academy
72. Brian Woodard 2G 6-3 Bayside (N.Y.) Cardoza
73. Jimmy Haywood 1/2G 6-4 Seattle (Wash.) Franklin
74. Tahj Holden PF 6-9 1/2 Little Silver (N.J.) Red Bank Regional
75. Charles Richmond C 6-9 Memphis (Tenn.) Washington
76. Demetrius Hunter 2G 6-3 Las Vegas (Nev.) Cheyenne
77. Sherrod Teasley PG 6-4 Frederick (Md.) St. John's Prospect Hall
78. Courtland Freeman PF 6-8 1/2 Myrtle Beach (S.C.) Socastee
79. David Young 2G 6-3 New Castle, Pa.
80. Kareem Rush WF 6-6 Kansas City (Mo.) Pembroke Hill
81. Jon Higgins 1/2G 6-2 Shaker Heights, Ohio
82. Julian Swartz WF 6-5 Waukesha (Wis.) South Wisconsin
83. Gregory Morton PF 6-7 1/2 Bronx (N.Y.) St. Raymond
84. Jon Holmes PG 6-0 Bloomington (Ind.) South
85. Dalron Johnson PF 6-7 1/2 Los Angeles Verbum Dei
86. Larry Scott WF 6-6 St. James, Md.
87. Ray Henderson C 6-9 East Mecklenburg
88. Shawson Johnson C/F 6-9 Shreveport (La.) Green Oaks
89. Brooks Hall G/F 6-6 Troy, Ohio
90. Aloysius Anagonye PF 6-7 Detroit St. Martin de Porres
91. Will Johnson P/WF 6-8 Hickory
92. John Gunn C 6-10 Oxford (Miss.)
93. Napoleon Rhodes PF 6-7 Ocala (Fla.) Vangaurd
94. Chris Ogden WF 6-7 Seminole, Texas
95. Shawn Redhage WF 6-7 Lincoln (Neb.) East
96. Brent Darby PG 6-1 River Rouge (Mich.)
97. Tory Reed PF 6-8 Cleveland Heights, Ohio
98. Sean Harrington PG 6-3 Elgin, Ill.
99. Krunti Hester PF 6-6 Indianapolis Brebeuf Marquette
100. Rick Jones PG 6-1 Georgetown (Ky.) Scott County
100. Mike Monserez 1/2G 6-4 Cincinnati Moeller Notre Dame

CameronBornAndBred
03-13-2008, 03:34 PM
You are looking at it from NBA team point of view and not college team point of view. I think recruiting wise, Hodge definately fit his bill, I'm sure several others did as well, but I'm not that familiar with him. Ewing was a good one for Duke at college, but obviously wasn't NBA ready. Of course a bunch of the guys who went NBA early were busts, they weren't close to ready, but if they had gone to a school and played, you probably would remember their names.

BD80
03-13-2008, 03:53 PM
Well... Kwame Brown has made quite a name for himself - Bust. He also cost MJ a job in DC.

monkey
03-13-2008, 04:05 PM
Where is this list from? Jason Williams was rated much, much higher in that class - he was the number one point guard. And Carlos was the number one overall prospect on the ESPN list for a while that year before drifting a little back - but nowhere near 21.

This list actually makes me question all the others posted here because this particular listing of prospects and class year was heavily scrutinized and discussed at the time.


I'd say Coach K went after the right guys in this class, wouldn't you?

Re-ordering:

21. Boozer
36. Johnson
44. Richardson
35. Dalembert
14. Dunleavy
8. Kapono
9. Blake
20. Collison
11. Cook

My guess is that J-will would currently be #1 or #2 on this list if it weren't for the accident.


No. Player Pos. Ht. School College
1. DerMarr Johnson G/F 6-9 Kensington (Md.) Newport
2. Jonathan Bender F 6-11 Picayune, Miss.
3. Matt Bonner PF 6-9 Concord, N.H.
4. Damien Wilkins WF 6-6 Kensington (Md.) Newport
5. Keith Bogans G/F 6-4 Hyattsville (Md.) DeMatha
6. Brett Nelson G 6-3 St. Albans, W.Va. Florida
7. Donnell Harvey PF 6-7 Shellman (Ga.) Randolph-Clay
8. Jason Kapono WF 6-7 Lakewood (Calif.) Artesia
9. Steven Blake PG 6-3 Miami (Fla.) Senior Maryland
10. Joe Forte 2G 6-4 Hyattsville (Md.) DeMatha
11. Brian Cook C/F 6-10 Lincoln (Ill.) Illinois
12. Marvin Stone C/F 6-10 Huntsville (Ala.) Grissom
13. Matt Carroll G/F 6-6 Horsham (Pa.) Hatsboro-Horsham
14. Micheal Dunleavy 2G 6-5 Portland (Ore.) Jesuit
15. Todd Billet PG 6-0 Lincroft (N.J.) Christian Brothers
16. Toney Robertson G 6-3 Barrington (R.I.) St. Andrews
17. Casey Sanders C/F 6-10 Tampa (Fla.) Prep
18. Jason Williams G 6-2 Metuchen (N.J.) St. Josephs
19. Kenny Satterfield 1/2G 6-2 New York (N.Y.) Rice
20. Nick Collison PF 6-9 Iowa Falls, Iowa
21. Carlos Boozer PF 6-8 Juneau (Alaska)Douglas
22. Marques Daniels G/F 6-7 Durham Mount Zion
23. Kevin Gaines PG 6-3 Las Vegas Clark
24. Ronald Slay P/WF 6-7 1/2 Mouth of Wilson (Va.) Oak Hill Tennessee
25. Jason Parker C/F 6-8 West Charlotte
26. Josh Moore C 7-0 Jersy City (N.J.) St. Anthony
27. Erwin Dudley WF 6-6 Uniontown (Ala.) Hatch
28. George Williams P/WF 6-8 Missouri City (Texas) Elkins
29. Casey Jacobsen G/F 6-6 Glendora, Calif.
30. Shane Schilling WF 6-6 Minnetonka, Minn.
31. Stephen Hunter C 6-11 Durham Mount Zion
32. Jason Gardner PG 5-11 Indianapolis North Central
33. Antonio Falu 1/2G 6-5 Houston (Texas) Waltrip
34. Andrew Sullivan P/WF 6-7 Richland (N.J.) St. Augustine
35. Samuel Dalembert C 6-11 Elizabeth (N.J.)St. Patrick
36. Joe Johnson WF 6-6 Little Rock (Ark.) Central
37. Ron Grizzard G/F 6-7 Birmingham (Ala.) Central Park Christian
38. Roger Mason 2G 6-3 Wheaton (Md.) Good Counsel
39. Brian Wethers 2G 6-5 Murrieta (Calif.) Valley
40. LaVelle Blanchard G/F 6-5 Ann Arbor (Mich.) Pioneer
41. Leon Smith C 6-10 Chicago Martin Luther King Jr.
42. Chuck Eidson G/F 6-7 Summerville (S.C.) Pinewood South Carolina
43. Tim Lyles PG 6-0 Durham Mount Zion
44. Jason Richardson WF 6-6 Saginaw (Mich.) Arthur Hill
45. DeShaun Williams 2G 6-2 1/2 Paterson (N.J.) Catholic
46. Gavin Groninger 2G 6-4 Plainfield, Ind.
47. Reese Gaines G/F 6-6 Madison (Wis.) Westy
48. Travis Watson PF 6-7 Mouth of Wilson (Va.) Oak Hill
49. Majestic Mapp PG 6-2 Bronx (N.Y.) St. Raymond
50. Nathan Popp C 7-2 Lexington (Ky.) Catholic
51. Antonio Meeking PF 6-7 Farmerville, La.
52. Marshall Williams G/F 6-5 Milwaukee Vincent
53. Edward Scott PG 6-0 Hopkins (S.C.) Lower Richland
54. Ben Johnson 2G 6-3 Minneapolis DeLaSalle
55. Adam Wolfe PF 6-8 1/2 Westerville, Ohio Michigan State
56. Derrick Payne WF 6-6 Durham Mount Zion
57. Ezra Williams 2G 6-4 Marietta, Ga.
58. Curtis Borchardt PF 6-10 Redmond (Wash.) Eastlake
59. Rafael Berumen C 6-9 Simi Valley (Calif.) Simi Valley
60. Marcus Cox 1/2G 6-3 1/2 Bridgeport (Conn.) Kolbe
61. Brian Jackson C/F 6-10 Astoria (Ore.) Knappa
62. Charles Tatum PG 5-9 Midland, Texas
63. Kenneth Walker PF 6-8 Jacksonville (Fla.) Wolfson
64. Donnell Knight PF 6-8 Phoenix (Ariz.) St. Marys
65. Alonzo Lane PF 6-7 Canton, Miss. Mississippi St.
66. Vincent Hart PF 6-7 Gary (Ind.) West Side
67. Tony Bobbitt 2G 6-4 Daytona Beach (Fla.) Mainland Florida State
68. Joe Sykes C 6-9 Radcliff (Ky.) North Hardin Louisville
69. Tito Maddox 2G 6-4 Compton, Calif.
70. John Grove C 6-10 Grove City (Pa.) George Cincinnati
71. Stephane Pelle C/F 6-8 Mercersburg (Pa.) Academy
72. Brian Woodard 2G 6-3 Bayside (N.Y.) Cardoza
73. Jimmy Haywood 1/2G 6-4 Seattle (Wash.) Franklin
74. Tahj Holden PF 6-9 1/2 Little Silver (N.J.) Red Bank Regional
75. Charles Richmond C 6-9 Memphis (Tenn.) Washington
76. Demetrius Hunter 2G 6-3 Las Vegas (Nev.) Cheyenne
77. Sherrod Teasley PG 6-4 Frederick (Md.) St. John's Prospect Hall
78. Courtland Freeman PF 6-8 1/2 Myrtle Beach (S.C.) Socastee
79. David Young 2G 6-3 New Castle, Pa.
80. Kareem Rush WF 6-6 Kansas City (Mo.) Pembroke Hill
81. Jon Higgins 1/2G 6-2 Shaker Heights, Ohio
82. Julian Swartz WF 6-5 Waukesha (Wis.) South Wisconsin
83. Gregory Morton PF 6-7 1/2 Bronx (N.Y.) St. Raymond
84. Jon Holmes PG 6-0 Bloomington (Ind.) South
85. Dalron Johnson PF 6-7 1/2 Los Angeles Verbum Dei
86. Larry Scott WF 6-6 St. James, Md.
87. Ray Henderson C 6-9 East Mecklenburg
88. Shawson Johnson C/F 6-9 Shreveport (La.) Green Oaks
89. Brooks Hall G/F 6-6 Troy, Ohio
90. Aloysius Anagonye PF 6-7 Detroit St. Martin de Porres
91. Will Johnson P/WF 6-8 Hickory
92. John Gunn C 6-10 Oxford (Miss.)
93. Napoleon Rhodes PF 6-7 Ocala (Fla.) Vangaurd
94. Chris Ogden WF 6-7 Seminole, Texas
95. Shawn Redhage WF 6-7 Lincoln (Neb.) East
96. Brent Darby PG 6-1 River Rouge (Mich.)
97. Tory Reed PF 6-8 Cleveland Heights, Ohio
98. Sean Harrington PG 6-3 Elgin, Ill.
99. Krunti Hester PF 6-6 Indianapolis Brebeuf Marquette
100. Rick Jones PG 6-1 Georgetown (Ky.) Scott County
100. Mike Monserez 1/2G 6-4 Cincinnati Moeller Notre Dame

bdh21
03-13-2008, 04:08 PM
My first thought was "my god, how long was Marco Killingsworth in college for?"

I couldn't have been only 5 years, right?

Carlos
03-13-2008, 04:18 PM
First, you missed a couple of NBA guys -

Mo Williams was a star at Bama and is having a great year for the Bucks in the NBA.
Josh Childress was a star at Stanford and is in the NBA - that's if you count the Hawks as part of the NBA.


As for the rankings not meaning much, I don't know - while there may not be many guys on that list that have done much in the NBA if you look at the production of those who did go to college you can see that those guys at the top of the list had some pretty solid college careers. Most of the top ranked guys who didn't have a good college career are guys who had off the court problems:

Hargett and Cisse are both sad stories having let agents screw up their careers.
Sensley had academic issues and never played for Cal.
Harvey Thomas got mixed up in the situation at Baylor but had a pretty good year and then tried to go pro.
Carlos Hurt got kicked off the Louisville team and ended up playing for an NAIA school.
Sampson had a solid freshman year at Cal and then went pro too soon.
Rashad Carruth got kicked out of Kentucky, kicked out of Oklahoma, and then left the team for "personal reasons" at Southern Miss.
Whaley never made it to Missouri after being tried for statutory rape in HS. Instead he ended up at Cincinnati where he was kicked out and went to a JC.
Tony Key tried to go straight to the league out of HS and was never drafted. Instead he end up at a JC.
Edelin got into trouble with some rape allegations. He never played a full season for Syracuse but on the court he played pretty well.
Brandon Bender transferred out of Louisville and ended up at an NAIA school
Omari Westley went JC then to Cleveland State before getting kicked off the team for the old "violation of team rules."
Taurence Johnson had a bunch of suspensions at FIU.

VTBaller03
03-13-2008, 04:26 PM
31. Adam Harrington 6-5 2G Northfield, Mass
(Pioneer Valley) Committed-NC State

Adam was a buddy of mine, I played some pick-up with him during the summers and some AAU Ball. I remember when he turned down UMass, people in MA were not pleased. I think he's in the D-League now.

jimsumner
03-13-2008, 04:38 PM
This site has the consensus rankings from the last decade.

Bookmark it. An invaluable resource.

http://rscihoops.com/

Richard Berg
03-13-2008, 04:57 PM
You also missed DeSagana Diop, who's having a nice career.

mr. synellinden
03-13-2008, 05:22 PM
Where is this list from? Jason Williams was rated much, much higher in that class - he was the number one point guard. And Carlos was the number one overall prospect on the ESPN list for a while that year before drifting a little back - but nowhere near 21.

This list actually makes me question all the others posted here because this particular listing of prospects and class year was heavily scrutinized and discussed at the time.

This was pre-summer - before their senior year. That was part of the point I was making - that we are essentially at that point with the 2009 class and I feel pretty confident that we are going to end up with a stellar class. We shouldn't get too hung up on rankings at this point.

juise
03-13-2008, 06:10 PM
Or Of the top 50, other than Ben Gordon, T.J. Ford, Curry and Chandler, who has made a name for themselves...

84. Michael Clayton

Nominated for best picture? :confused:

Classof06
03-13-2008, 07:14 PM
My first thought was "my god, how long was Marco Killingsworth in college for?"

I couldn't have been only 5 years, right?

Killingsworth transferred from Auburn to Indiana and had to sit out a year, but I'm pretty sure it was only 5 years.

DukeHoopsGuru
03-13-2008, 07:33 PM
That is a short-sighted post. You're looking at 1 year, a year that was relatively weak, and saying "recruiting rankings don't mean much." How bout we take a gander at just last year.

1. OJ Mayo
2. Michael Beasley
3. Kevin Love
4. Eric Gordon
5. Derrick Rose
6. Kyle Singler
7. Bill Walker - Actually an 06 commit
8. Donte Greene
9. Jerryd Bayless
10. Nick Calathes

How bout keeping those rankings in perspective? It's no secret Duke's been so good the past 15-20 years b/c Coach K has gotten the very best players. Recruiting matters. Period.

12_2bretired
03-13-2008, 09:37 PM
Where was Chris Douglas-Roberts on that list?

Point made with this years class and their respective rankings last year.

How much fun is it to see this freshman class, i think this will be the top class for a LONG time.