Henry Coleman [Archive]

DavidBenAkiva

07-24-2020, 11:30 AM

DoubleBlue

07-24-2020, 12:00 PM

ChillinDuke

07-24-2020, 02:31 PM

Both of those plays were (dare I say)... Zion-like!

Don't.

Please don't.

- Chillin

mattman91

07-24-2020, 03:02 PM

Don't.

Please don't.

- Chillin

Yeah. Don't wanna set those expectations.

I did not realize how quickly he moves. If he tightens up his handles and develops a decent jump shot, he may turn out to be very good.

Jaks19

07-24-2020, 04:13 PM

I am friends with some AAU coaches in VA and those guys said his work ethic, motor and competitiveness are excellent. They've also said he's kind of like a late bloomer because hes grown and has gotten so much stronger. One guy even said that one of the people in Henry's inner circle said hes not done growing yet.

duke96

07-25-2020, 10:08 AM

Both of those plays were (dare I say)... Zion-like!

The one where he totally lost his defender and then scrambled to make up for it brought back some memories....

JasonEvans

07-25-2020, 11:50 AM

A couple of highlight plays of Henry Coleman from recent scrimmages display his unusual combination of size, length, and athleticism translating to excellent defense.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1286154804583182337

I do think it is worth pointing out that Henry totally lost his man on that play but managed to recover (because the pass was slow and the guy taking the layup was slow). Props on the recovery, but losing your man that badly is not cool and will probably carry a far bigger penalty when playing against D1 competition.

yancem

07-27-2020, 02:03 PM

I do think it is worth pointing out that Henry totally lost his man on that play but managed to recover (because the pass was slow and the guy taking the layup was slow). Props on the recovery, but losing your man that badly is not cool and will probably carry a far bigger penalty when playing against D1 competition.

I'd like to see a few seconds before the video starts because I'm not sure if he lost sight of his man as much as he was well screened by two players. As for DoubleBlue's comment, that was the first thing that popped into my head. Both of those plays were very reminiscent of Zion plays. Now 2 plays do not make him Zion but it does show that he has potential to be a lot of fun to watch.

Jaks19

07-27-2020, 02:43 PM

I'm not sure anyone truly knows what to expect from him. Could he give Duke a Jack White type contribution less the 3 point shooting?

CDu

07-27-2020, 03:38 PM

I'm not sure anyone truly knows what to expect from him. Could he give Duke a Jack White type contribution less the 3 point shooting?

I mean, he's a much more heralded recruit than Jack White or Jordan Goldwire was. He's more highly-rated than Marshall Plumlee, Lee Melchionni, and Tyler Thornton were. So it's not out of the question for him to eventually make a meaningful contribution at Duke. Probably pretty unlikely that he makes an impact in his freshman year, but again not totally impossible.

If I were betting on it, I'd probably say "career backup." But it's certainly not out of the question that he could develop into more.

mattman91

07-27-2020, 03:41 PM

I'm not sure anyone truly knows what to expect from him. Could he give Duke a Jack White type contribution less the 3 point shooting?

I'm sure he could at least match Jack's JR year 3 point shooting.:rolleyes:

Love you, Jack!

Jaks19

07-27-2020, 03:47 PM

We shall see

plimnko

07-27-2020, 05:31 PM

We shall see

I sure hope so.

flyingdutchdevil

07-27-2020, 06:34 PM

We shall see

In November 2021...

DukieInBrasil

07-28-2020, 09:46 AM

I mean, he's a much more heralded recruit than Jack White or Jordan Goldwire was. He's more highly-rated than Marshall Plumlee, Lee Melchionni, and Tyler Thornton were. So it's not out of the question for him to eventually make a meaningful contribution at Duke. Probably pretty unlikely that he makes an impact in his freshman year, but again not totally impossible.

If I were betting on it, I'd probably say "career backup." But it's certainly not out of the question that he could develop into more.

No disagreement there, and it's good that the highlights showcase defense and defe-to-offense plays b/c defense may very well be the thing that earns him playing time, especially early in his career. If he buys into being the best interior defender Duke has, then the potential to earn more time on the court goes up, as time on the court goes up his ability to make an offensive impact goes up as well.
If his career arc has him making a greater contribution than MP3, Melch, or Thornton, then that's very valuable. For example, after a very slow start to his career MP3 scored 8+ppg and 8.5 rpg as a Sr. and those are very respectable numbers.

Kedsy

07-28-2020, 11:06 AM

No disagreement there, and it's good that the highlights showcase defense and defe-to-offense plays b/c defense may very well be the thing that earns him playing time, especially early in his career. If he buys into being the best interior defender Duke has, then the potential to earn more time on the court goes up, as time on the court goes up his ability to make an offensive impact goes up as well.
If his career arc has him making a greater contribution than MP3, Melch, or Thornton, then that's very valuable. For example, after a very slow start to his career MP3 scored 8+ppg and 8.5 rpg as a Sr. and those are very respectable numbers.

If he sticks around four years, I suspect Henry will be a contributor. I’ll be very surprised if that happens his first year. I’ll also be quite surprised if he’s ever Duke’s best interior defender while fellow freshman Mark Williams is on the team.

Jaks19

07-28-2020, 12:07 PM

I dont think he has to be Duke's best anything but if he can have some kind of contribution that helps the team in games that would be key

roywhite

07-28-2020, 12:18 PM

I dont think he has to be Duke's best anything but if he can have some kind of contribution that helps the team in games that would be key

As an inside defender with strength and quickness, there may be opportunities. In the one-and-done era, it seems like the Devils sometimes have trouble with teams that are older, stronger, and more physically mature. Last season, losses to SF Austin and Clemson fall in that category IMO. Even if Coleman is not in the regular rotation in his first year, I'll bet Coach K would like to have him available for matchups like that.

luvdahops

07-28-2020, 02:38 PM

A couple of highlight plays of Henry Coleman from recent scrimmages display his unusual combination of size, length, and athleticism translating to excellent defense.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1286154804583182337

https://twitter.com/i/status/1286361232358830085

Previous clips of Henry that I have seen showed plenty of strength, skill and competitiveness, but not much in the way of athleticism or explosiveness. And I'm not sure these really change that view. In the first clip, even with a running start, his hand gets barely above rim level for the block. And while he finishes the second clip with a nice dunk, it's nothing out of the ordinary for a 6-8 guy ranked in the Top ~40 of his class IMHO.

JasonEvans

08-31-2020, 01:54 PM

I just got a chance to interview Henry for the DBR Podcast (https://cms.megaphone.fm/channel/duke-basketball-report?selected=VMP5752051100)and I cannot even tell you how impressed I was by this young man. His answers to our questions (I was one of 2 dozen reporters on the call) were incredibly thoughtful. He just came across as supremely poised. And wait until you all hear who his favorite author is! I'll be sure to include that answer on the next pod when we highlight this interview.

DukieInBrasil

08-31-2020, 03:24 PM

I dont think he has to be Duke's best anything but if he can have some kind of contribution that helps the team in games that would be key

I wasn't trying to imply that has to be the best, just buy into the concept, meaning that he put the work in to become a great defender, whether that's this coming year or in the future. K really likes that kind of stuff. Hopefully Henry will be at Duke for at least a couple of years, and will become the type of defender and all around player K trusts to be an important contributor.

azzefkram

09-01-2020, 10:45 AM

For those of you who have a subscription to The Athletic, there is a really good article on Henry. Since it is behind a paywall, I didn't include a link.

Billy Dat

09-01-2020, 10:52 AM

I dont think he has to be Duke's best anything but if he can have some kind of contribution that helps the team in games that would be key

I just got a chance to interview Henry for the DBR Podcast (https://cms.megaphone.fm/channel/duke-basketball-report?selected=VMP5752051100)and I cannot even tell you how impressed I was by this young man. His answers to our questions (I was one of 2 dozen reporters on the call) were incredibly thoughtful. He just came across as supremely poised. And wait until you all hear who his favorite author is! I'll be sure to include that answer on the next pod when we highlight this interview.

For those of you who have a subscription to The Athletic, there is a really good article on Henry. Since it is behind a paywall, I didn't include a link.

Based on the Athletic article, his words at the Nolan-led BLM rally and Jason's comments, I maybe he's got a shot at eventually being one of the team's best leaders. Considering that JRobb was about to average 20ppg in the 2020 postseason and lead us to the Final Four, I am all about a slow growing leader.

JasonEvans

09-01-2020, 12:31 PM

Based on the Athletic article, his words at the Nolan-led BLM rally and Jason's comments, I maybe he's got a shot at eventually being one of the team's best leaders. Considering that JRobb was about to average 20ppg in the 2020 postseason and lead us to the Final Four, I am all about a slow growing leader.

If you want to listen, my interview with Henry is now available on the podcast: https://cms.megaphone.fm/channel/duke-basketball-report?selected=VMP6779893146

Jaks19

09-02-2020, 09:42 AM

Coach K loves guys like Henry and he finds roles for them.

henry's game isn't all about just basketball skills but he brings other things to the team. He is a player that is willing to accept a role of defending, rebounding, energy, work ethic, communication and toughness. Amile Jefferson was a guy that needed to work on his game and his body at Duke and look how K utilized him. Henry is already physically developed and his main focus is on working on his shooting. I know the front court will have depth but the 5 position is the one spot that has the most unknows. Williams has the size and the upside as well as is known for his rim protection but offensively he is still developing. Tape' is a complete unknow bc not only is he coming from a lesser conference but he took a year off. This is where Coleman can earn some minutes as a small ball 5.

plimnko

09-02-2020, 09:45 AM

he's quickly becoming one of my favorite players

devilirium

09-02-2020, 10:12 PM

he's quickly becoming one of my favorite players

Henry reminds me of a lot of kids in the Prep League--curious, intellectual, team-oriented. I too smiled about his mention of Thoreau, because that guy was the main transcendentalist that I studied at St. Chris. The difference in the Prep League now is the level of competitiveness has caught up with the public schools w Russell Wilson, Javin, etc.

HaveFunExpectToWin

09-03-2020, 09:22 AM

JasonEvans

09-03-2020, 01:25 PM

He’s on the cover of the Richmond Times Dispatch Sports page

https://richmond.com/sports/high-school/richmond-upbringing-led-to-a-powerful-speech-on-race-given-by-duke-basketball-player-henry/article_615bd114-ed51-11ea-9680-ab9dfb7d39a8.html

Wonderful article about a great young man...

And a warning, do not read the comment section on that article. Just... do... not... read... it.

mattman91

09-03-2020, 02:00 PM

Wonderful article about a great young man...

And a warning, do not read the comment section on that article. Just... do... not... read... it.

Yeah, it'd be awful for someone to read a comment that they disagree with.

pfrduke

09-05-2020, 10:01 AM

Yeah, it'd be awful for someone to read a comment that they disagree with.

I guess if you want to read people scream fascist and racist at each other in an Internet comment section, more power to you. Sadly, plenty of places you can find that discourse.

mattman91

09-05-2020, 12:45 PM

I guess if you want to read people scream fascist and racist at each other in an Internet comment section, more power to you. Sadly, plenty of places you can find that discourse.

Fair point. I read through some of the comments and thought it wasn't nearly as bad as most comment sections these days. Firey but mostly peaceful, for sure.

mattman91

09-05-2020, 12:51 PM

I'm totally getting future senior captain vibes from what little I've seen/read about Henry.

CrazyNotCrazie

09-05-2020, 01:41 PM

I'm totally getting future senior captain vibes from what little I've seen/read about Henry.

Agreed and totally see the point you are making about him being a four year guy. I would add junior captain as well. I would take a team full of kids like that any day.

UrinalCake

09-05-2020, 08:38 PM

Based on the Athletic article, his words at the Nolan-led BLM rally and Jason's comments, I maybe he's got a shot at eventually being one of the team's best leaders.

I know this has been discussed on other threads, but I was so impressed by what he said at the BLM rally. For an 18/19 year old kid to have that kind of perspective on the world is so impressive. And the fact that he was chosen to speak over older and more highly recruited players speaks to his leadership and the respect he has from his teammates. Glad to have him on the team, he is absolutely the type of kid you need to have on your roster, regardless of his contributions on the court.