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Tripping William
03-12-2020, 09:12 AM
Don't we have a game this afternoon (fans or no fans)?

mattman91
03-12-2020, 09:12 AM
Don't we have a game this afternoon (fans or no fans)?

Well, maybe. :(

Indoor66
03-12-2020, 09:13 AM
I think we do until we don't.

left_hook_lacey
03-12-2020, 09:14 AM
Yeah, I was looking for this thread for 10 minutes thinking I was blind.

I had to go double check the schedule to make sure i wasn't crazy. No game thread 5 hours before tipoff?

Going to be weird with nobody in the stands.

Indoor66
03-12-2020, 09:15 AM
Who?

Billy Dat
03-12-2020, 09:22 AM
Commish Swofford press conference at 10AM...

dukebluesincebirth
03-12-2020, 09:24 AM
Have no idea what to expect in this game (if it's played..wonder how close to game times they would actually cancel??). It's weird for us as fans to wrap our heads around, but think about normal pregame preparation for players/coaches. The health situation is on everyone's minds, then the shockwaves from the NBA last night. How are the teams preparing for a game? How are they thinking about basketball strategy? Defensive positioning? It must be terribly difficult to focus. Then the added dimension of no fans and getting used to an empty gym...this is unprecedented. But LETS GO DEVILS!!!!!!

dukelifer
03-12-2020, 09:33 AM
Don't we have a game this afternoon (fans or no fans)?

Mixed feelings about this. Countless Duke students have had their lives upended and it seems that this is all about the money. The NCAA needs to cancel a tournament that will last 3 weeks with travel and hotel stays putting folks at risk. If not for the money- this would be a no brainer.

tbyers11
03-12-2020, 09:33 AM
According to David Teel, who spoke to Swofford the games are on for today

https://twitter.com/ByDavidTeel/status/1238094576726007809


David Teel
@ByDavidTeel
#ACC commissioner John Swofford just told me #ACCTourney games are on today.
9:28 AM · Mar 12, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

flyingdutchdevil
03-12-2020, 09:39 AM
According to David Teel, who spoke to Swofford the games are on for today

https://twitter.com/ByDavidTeel/status/1238094576726007809


David Teel
@ByDavidTeel
#ACC commissioner John Swofford just told me #ACCTourney games are on today.
9:28 AM · Mar 12, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

I really, really, really hope the refs, players, and coaching staff are being tested for coronavirus.

VA_BDevil
03-12-2020, 09:41 AM
Who?

I believe you should use all caps when stating the acronym of the World Health Organization:cool:

mattman91
03-12-2020, 09:42 AM
The no fans idea is fine. But, if we are worried about gatherings of a 40-50 people (coaches, players, refs, limited media), why the HELL are any of us still going to work?

Acymetric
03-12-2020, 09:50 AM
Mixed feelings about this. Countless Duke students have had their lives upended and it seems that this is all about the money. The NCAA needs to cancel a tournament that will last 3 weeks with travel and hotel stays putting folks at risk. If not for the money- this would be a no brainer.

I don't really understand what one has to do with the other. With fans removed from the equation, players are probably safer playing in the tournament, being constantly monitored and protected from outside contact by team staff than if we just sent them home.


The no fans idea is fine. But, if we are worried about gatherings of a 40-50 people (coaches, players, refs, limited media), why the HELL are any of us still going to work?

Right.

OldPhiKap
03-12-2020, 09:54 AM
I really, really, really hope the refs, players, and coaching staff are being tested for coronavirus.

there are not enough tests to do this preemptively.

Acymetric
03-12-2020, 09:57 AM
there are not enough tests to do this preemptively.

It also wouldn't really be effective, all it would do is tell you they didn't have the virus when you tested them, unless you plan to test them every day prior to them entering the facility.

dukelifer
03-12-2020, 10:00 AM
I don't really understand what one has to do with the other. With fans removed from the equation, players are probably safer playing in the tournament, being constantly monitored and protected from outside contact by team staff than if we just sent them home.



Right.

These are Duke students. Other students are not allowed to come back to campus to limit exposure to the community and all their performances and events have been canceled. Duke is not allowing Duke sponsored travel for faculty and students. If you are arguing that basketball is separate from Duke and these are not really students - then yes the two have nothing to do with each other. I enjoy basketball as much as anyone - but I am not sure I understand why this is going forward other than money.

As for safety - it is more about transmission. But hotels are likely high risk zones given travelers from all over.

gofurman
03-12-2020, 10:07 AM
I don't really understand what one has to do with the other. With fans removed from the equation, players are probably safer playing in the tournament, being constantly monitored and protected from outside contact by team staff than if we just sent them home.



Right.

EXACTLY. If we are worried about 50-100 people playing in empty gym then what about all congregations like church services, where there are easily more people than that? They are probably safer playing the tournament and I think this has gone too far

NUMBERS - say wparents maybe 300 people at an NCAA game? Church or political rally could have hundreds to thousands of people but no one is talking about that

Natty_B
03-12-2020, 10:25 AM
Politco reported that the Gov of my state (JB Pritzker) pressed and got an answer from CDC on what defines a "large gathering" - the number he was told was 250. I'm figuring these ACC games will be under that number.

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03-12-2020, 11:26 AM
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PackMan97
03-12-2020, 11:29 AM
Go pack! ;)

Whatever happens today, let's all remember to 9f!

mattman91
03-12-2020, 11:33 AM
Go pack! ;)

Whatever happens today, let's all remember to 9f!

And wash your hands!

PackMan97
03-12-2020, 11:45 AM
And wash your hands!

I always wash my hands after I 9f.

weezie
03-12-2020, 11:47 AM
I wear gloves. That's a messy job.

CameronBlue
03-12-2020, 11:47 AM
And wash your hands!

Thanks mom. In case you need to put a "face" on this disease here's a video from CNN.com. Clay Bentley isn't the most articulate fellow but he conveys the experience of dealing with coronavirus quite succinctly.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2020/03/11/clay-bentley-georgia-coronavirus-patient-bts-nr-vpx.cnn

Chicago 1995
03-12-2020, 11:48 AM
Big Ten and the AAC just cancelled their tourneys, FWIW.

SEC too while I posted about the Big Ten and AAC

chrishoke
03-12-2020, 11:50 AM
Big Ten and the AAC just cancelled their tourneys, FWIW.

Oh crap.

tbyers11
03-12-2020, 11:51 AM
Big Ten and the AAC just cancelled their tourneys, FWIW.

SEC as well. I'm frankly shocked it took this long. I doubt FSU/Clemson will tip off

Edit: Big12 also

Jaks19
03-12-2020, 11:52 AM
This game is worrisome for me. Not that I don't think Duke will win but if you look at the last 2 games verse NC State Duke did not have 3 good halves. For some reason NCS causes Duke issues

dukelion
03-12-2020, 11:54 AM
This game is worrisome for me. Not that I don't think Duke will win but if you look at the last 2 games verse NC State Duke did not have 3 good halves. For some reason NCS causes Duke issues

Don't worry.....it'll be cancelled in mere minutes.

AustinDevil
03-12-2020, 11:56 AM
Disappointing but the right call. At least UNC-Syracuse was played!

tbyers11
03-12-2020, 11:59 AM
SEC as well. I'm frankly shocked it took this long. I doubt FSU/Clemson will tip off

Edit: Big12 also

A10 and CUSA too

CDu
03-12-2020, 11:59 AM
Don't worry....it'll be cancelled in mere minutes.

32 minutes until tipoff of the first game. Will they make the call before players go out for warmups?

Truth&Justise
03-12-2020, 12:01 PM
Big Ten and the AAC just cancelled their tourneys, FWIW.

SEC too while I posted about the Big Ten and AAC


SEC as well. I'm frankly shocked it took this long. I doubt FSU/Clemson will tip off

Edit: Big12 also


A10 and CUSA too

All of these cancellations within minutes of each other, seems like a coordinated response. Really lends credence to idea that the NCAA is calling things off.

dukelion
03-12-2020, 12:01 PM
32 minutes until tipoff of the first game. Will they make the call before players go out for warmups?

Players are already on the floor.

Crisker
03-12-2020, 12:01 PM
32 minutes until tipoff of the first game. Will they make the call before players go out for warmups?
Probably. I have seen several Twitter reports that it has been cancelled but nothing official yet.

CDu
03-12-2020, 12:04 PM
Players are already on the floor.

If they are already on the floor, that's a huge fail by the conference if they decide to cancel.

Nrrrrvous
03-12-2020, 12:04 PM
Bilas says "This doesn't feel right". I must agree with him.

J4Kop99
03-12-2020, 12:05 PM
Well, if the ACC tournament is cancelled, the FSU band has not been alerted.

dukelion
03-12-2020, 12:06 PM
It's done...Florida St. just left the floor...

At least the season ended on a high for us and a low for the cheats...and a season that will be remembered for years/decades as well....I'll take it.

CameronBlue
03-12-2020, 12:07 PM
It's done...Florida St. just left the floor...

At least the season ended on a high for us and a low for the cheats...and a season that will be remembered for years/decades as well...I'll take it.

Adam Gold just tweeted:

Source tells me that the ACC is going to cancel the rest of the tournament. Just waiting on official word.

J4Kop99
03-12-2020, 12:07 PM
It's done...Florida St. just left the floor...

At least the season ended on a high for us and a low for the cheats...and a season that will be remembered for years/decades as well...I'll take it.

They left the floor but still hadn't confirmed anything. I assume that announcement is coming. If it hasn't already.

CDu
03-12-2020, 12:08 PM
Meanwhile, the Big East didn't get the message. St John's and Creighton playing at the moment.

dukelifer
03-12-2020, 12:08 PM
Adam Gold just tweeted:

Source tells me that the ACC is going to cancel the rest of the tournament. Just waiting on official word.
The right call- sad to say.

left_hook_lacey
03-12-2020, 12:09 PM
They left the floor but still hadn't confirmed anything. I assume that announcement is coming. If it hasn't already.

Multiple media guys on twitter posted they just were told tournament was cancelled, then Florida state left the floor with 21 minutes remaining on warm up clock. It's over.

dukelifer
03-12-2020, 12:10 PM
It's done...Florida St. just left the floor...

At least the season ended on a high for us and a low for the cheats...and a season that will be remembered for years/decades as well...I'll take it.
A near 30 point loss by UNC to end the ACC tourney will make this most memorable.

left_hook_lacey
03-12-2020, 12:11 PM
This season now feels like a soccer game that ended in a tie. All this time invested for nothing.

J4Kop99
03-12-2020, 12:11 PM
Multiple media guys on twitter posted they just were told tournament was cancelled, then Florida state left the floor with 21 minutes remaining on warm up clock. It's over.

Yeah, they would be crazy to continue playing. All I am saying is nothing official yet. ESPN, who is covering the game, still saying it's expecting to tip at 1230.

Stray Gator
03-12-2020, 12:11 PM
And on the ACC Network, Packer & Durham are currently airing an earlier recorded interview with Swofford, who is explaining why they decided to proceed with the conference tournament. When asked whether they've given any thought to cancelling the ACC Tournament games, he said no. Still no announcement on the conference's own channel . . .

dukelifer
03-12-2020, 12:14 PM
This season now feels like a soccer game that ended in a tie. All this time invested for nothing.

Each team left gets to hang a banner?

J4Kop99
03-12-2020, 12:15 PM
Big12 now officially cancelled. "Still waiting word from the ACC" -- ESPN live on SC

CameronBlue
03-12-2020, 12:15 PM
Obviously a fluid situation with a high potential for conflicting reports in the media. Listening to the Wolfpack radio network and it's business as usual.

CameronBlue
03-12-2020, 12:17 PM
It's a wrap folks. Again from Adam Gold:

ACCT over

“Following additional consultation with the league’s presidents and athletic directors, and in light of the continued conversations surrounding the fluidity of COVID-19, the Atlantic Coast Conference will immediately cancel the remainder of the 2020 ACC Tournament."

J4Kop99
03-12-2020, 12:17 PM
And that's all she wrote! Cancelled. Last one of the bunch

dukelifer
03-12-2020, 12:18 PM
Obviously a fluid situation with a high potential for conflicting reports in the media. Listening to the Wolfpack radio network and it's business as usual.

I don’t see how they play it. I think you have a horse tournament with one player from each team- each get their own ball to avoid contact. Last man standing wins the tourney. Who do you pick from Duke? I pick Cassius.

Dr. Rosenrosen
03-12-2020, 12:19 PM
Aaaaand DBR makes the immediate shift to offseason mode. Damn virus.

CDu
03-12-2020, 12:19 PM
And that's all she wrote! Cancelled. Last one of the bunch

Umm, the Big East is still playing a game right now...

mattman91
03-12-2020, 12:19 PM
Might be time to start a "Thank You J Rob, Jack and Javin" thread.

Acymetric
03-12-2020, 12:19 PM
Seems useless to cancel the tournament at this point, where anyone who was going to be exposed as a result of the tournament already has been, but whatever.

dukelion
03-12-2020, 12:20 PM
I hope everyone realizes the NCAAT is next......prepping people to not get too disappointed.

Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
03-12-2020, 12:21 PM
Can we hang a banner?

budwom
03-12-2020, 12:22 PM
Can we hang a banner?

everyone is getting a certificate!

Dr. Rosenrosen
03-12-2020, 12:22 PM
Can we hang a banner?
FSU can. They’re awarding them the championship as regular season champ.

thedukelamere
03-12-2020, 12:23 PM
Might be time to start a "Thank You J Rob, Jack and Javin" thread.

Which school's senior class will be the first to start a petition to the NCAA for an extra year of eligibility due to unforeseen forces that robbed them of a March Madness birth?

CDu
03-12-2020, 12:23 PM
Seems useless to cancel the tournament at this point, where anyone who was going to be exposed as a result of the tournament already has been, but whatever.

Well, not useless. If, for example, someone on Syracuse's team has it and hasn't interacted with Louisville's team yet, there is a greater chance of exposure by continuing to play. And the Duke, Louisville, FSU, and UVa players have presumably had very little exposure to this point. And so on and so forth. Little reason to continue the risk of spreading things beyond what they already have done.

Yes, part of this is about optics. But there really is still value in cancelling, even though the players are there (which was true for all the other tournaments that cancelled too).

PackMan97
03-12-2020, 12:23 PM
“Following additional consultation with the league’s presidents and athletic directors, and in light of the chance that NC State might win, the Atlantic Coast Conference will immediately cancel the remainder of the 2020 ACC Tournament."

You just have to read between the lines.

GG

J4Kop99
03-12-2020, 12:24 PM
Umm, the Big East is still playing a game right now...

Did their game tip off earlier than all of these announcements that just happened? Not making an excuse for them but they must be panicking right now.

CameronBlue
03-12-2020, 12:24 PM
Can we hang a banner?

Question is can we beat UNC to the punch? Seamstresses standing by.

dukelifer
03-12-2020, 12:25 PM
Umm, the Big East is still playing a game right now...

Interesting that the crowd noise is not zero- cheer leaders are doing their part. The game watching experience is not awful. Interesting.

CDu
03-12-2020, 12:25 PM
Did their game tip off earlier than all of these announcements that just happened? Not making an excuse for them but they must be panicking right now.

Nope. Tipoff was at noon. The cancellations started happening around 11:45 or so. They could have easily still cancelled.

flyingdutchdevil
03-12-2020, 12:26 PM
Nope. Tipoff was at noon. The cancellations started happening around 11:45 or so. They could have easily still cancelled.

My goodness. The Big East commish is on thin ice. If anyone gets infected, he's done for.

What an idiot...

dukelifer
03-12-2020, 12:26 PM
Can we hang a banner?

Banner? How about tee-shirts with all 8 teams.

robed deity
03-12-2020, 12:27 PM
Nope. Tipoff was at noon. The cancellations started happening around 11:45 or so. They could have easily still cancelled.

Honestly it sounds like there's more energy in the building than some early round NCAA games and definitely more than Tuesday ACC tourney games.

flyingdutchdevil
03-12-2020, 12:27 PM
Banner? How about tee-shirts with all 8 teams.

As long as UNC isn't one of them, I'm cool with that!

J4Kop99
03-12-2020, 12:28 PM
Nope. Tipoff was at noon. The cancellations started happening around 11:45 or so. They could have easily still cancelled.

Yikes -- not good. Somehow this will trace back to Dolan.

cbarry
03-12-2020, 12:28 PM
I hope everyone realizes the NCAAT is next...prepping people to not get too disappointed.
Yes indeed— no fans, but the NCAA Tourney is still ON!

Stray Gator
03-12-2020, 12:28 PM
Swofford just awarded the ACC Championship trophy to FSU, which will receive the ACC's automatic bid if the NCAA Tournament goes forward at some point.

Phredd3
03-12-2020, 12:30 PM
Which school's senior class will be the first to start a petition to the NCAA for an extra year of eligibility due to unforeseen forces that robbed them of a March Madness birth?

Since there are no games, I would say the opportunity for a March Madness birth just went up. Or maybe you meant "berth"? :D

CDu
03-12-2020, 12:30 PM
Yes indeed— no fans, but the NCAA Tourney is still ON!

Umm... I think you missed the point of that post you responded to. They were saying that the NCAA tournament is almost certainly getting cancelled too.

Dr. Rosenrosen
03-12-2020, 12:31 PM
I’m so tired of Jay. Now he’s going to call out everyone who didn’t cancel things yesterday. He can’t help himself in criticizing anything and everything he sees that he feels he could have done better by leveraging his amazing superpower of 20/20 hindsight.

bigperm13
03-12-2020, 12:32 PM
Choking against Wake Forest really, really hurts right now. That could be us looking at our team in uniform one last time getting presented the ACC championship. Wish I could wash my brain like I have my hands to get this weird, sad feeling to go away.

CDu
03-12-2020, 12:32 PM
I’m so tired of Jay. Now he’s going to call out everyone that didn’t call things off yesterday. He can’t help himself in criticizing anything and everything he sees that he feels he could have done better by leveraging his amazing superpower of 20/20 hindsight.

"If the NCAA did it, it was bad and done incorrectly." - Jay Bilas.

flyingdutchdevil
03-12-2020, 12:32 PM
Umm... I think you missed the point of that post you responded to. They were saying that the NCAA tournament is almost certainly getting cancelled too.

Pretty sure it's a joke. I laughed pretty hard when I read it.

Acymetric
03-12-2020, 12:32 PM
I’m so tired of Jay. Now he’s going to call out everyone who didn’t cancel things yesterday. He can’t help himself in criticizing anything and everything he sees that he feels he could have done better by leveraging his amazing superpower of 20/20 hindsight.

I'll be avoiding pretty much all sports media for the next month or so. Going to be a lot of insufferability going around, no surprise Jay is leading the charge.

TJ99
03-12-2020, 12:32 PM
Per Dan Wolken on twitter : Jay Bilas on ESPN: "I know for a fact one school was not coming this afternoon" before the cancellation was official.

flyingdutchdevil
03-12-2020, 12:33 PM
Choking against Wake Forest really, really hurts right now. That could be us looking at our team in uniform one last time getting presented the ACC championship. Wish I could wash my brain like I have my hands to get this weird, sad feeling to go away.

Hey. At least Duke helped the economy by decreasing unemployment by 1. You know Manning will coach next year because they beat a top 10 team. ;)

Dr. Rosenrosen
03-12-2020, 12:34 PM
Per Dan Wolken on twitter : Jay Bilas on ESPN: "I know for a fact one school was not coming this afternoon" before the cancellation was official.
UNC, right? Am I right? Ba-dum-bump!

robed deity
03-12-2020, 12:35 PM
UNC, right? Am I right? Ba-dum-bump!

They didn't even bother to show up last night.

CDu
03-12-2020, 12:36 PM
Pretty sure it's a joke. I laughed pretty hard when I read it.

I don't think it was a joke.

Matches
03-12-2020, 12:38 PM
If it was an ACC team that wasn’t going to show this afternoon, had to be us, right? The other three teams are already there.

weezie
03-12-2020, 12:39 PM
Aaaaand DBR makes the immediate shift to offseason mode. Damn virus.


"Minutes 2020-21" thread up next!

CDu
03-12-2020, 12:39 PM
If it was an ACC team that wasn’t going to show this afternoon, had to be us, right? The other three teams are already there.

Presumably we would have been there already too. I can't imagine they wouldn't have gotten a walkthrough at the arena yesterday.

ElonDuke95
03-12-2020, 12:40 PM
If it was an ACC team that wasn’t going to show this afternoon, had to be us, right? The other three teams are already there.

Good point.

DangerDevil
03-12-2020, 12:40 PM
Per Dan Wolken on twitter : Jay Bilas on ESPN: "I know for a fact one school was not coming this afternoon" before the cancellation was official.

If I heard Bilas correctly, after making the above statement he added that the school he was alluding to was part of Game 2 (Duke vs NC State).

ElonDuke95
03-12-2020, 12:42 PM
Per Dan Wolken on twitter : Jay Bilas on ESPN: "I know for a fact one school was not coming this afternoon" before the cancellation was official.

SW Missouri State?

:)

left_hook_lacey
03-12-2020, 12:44 PM
Aaaaand DBR makes the immediate shift to offseason mode. Damn virus.

Crank up the 2021 minutes discussion thread.

ElonDuke95
03-12-2020, 12:47 PM
Look at it this way: It's the sixth time under Coach K that Duke finished the season with a W.

TJ99
03-12-2020, 12:47 PM
Damn, these seniors, Tre, Vern can't go out like this....

Troublemaker
03-12-2020, 12:48 PM
Degenerate gamblers hardest hit. The handle on these Big East games must be through the roof. Last action for awhile...

Chicago 1995
03-12-2020, 12:54 PM
If it was an ACC team that wasn’t going to show this afternoon, had to be us, right? The other three teams are already there.

At least some evidence we were there too.

https://twitter.com/BlueDevilNation/status/1238140481827213312

DrChainsaw
03-12-2020, 12:56 PM
Can we hang a banner?

You know the Cheats will try to somehow justify hanging a banner...

kAzE
03-12-2020, 12:56 PM
It's over. Literally.

Edouble
03-12-2020, 12:59 PM
Damn, these seniors, Tre, Vern can't go out like this...

Nowhere to go though... no NBA right now.

CDu
03-12-2020, 01:02 PM
At least some evidence we were there too.

https://twitter.com/BlueDevilNation/status/1238140481827213312

Yes, teams usually have a walkthrough the day before their first tournament game.

AustinDevil
03-12-2020, 01:12 PM
Yes, teams usually have a walkthrough the day before their first tournament game.

There’s a difference between “not in Greensboro” and “not making the drive to the Coliseum.” Jay obviously meant the latter.

dukelifer
03-12-2020, 01:16 PM
Damn, these seniors, Tre, Vern can't go out like this...

Very few players get to end on a win - against your arch rival to boot!

Tripping William
03-12-2020, 01:23 PM
I promise: I will never start a Duke pre-game thread again. Now, where did I put those anti-depressants??

Troublemaker
03-12-2020, 01:32 PM
It is the forum moderators' request to keep sports and non-sports related aspects of the coronavirus separate. See here: https://forums.dukebasketballreport.com/forums/announcement.php?f=2

I do hope "business as usual" *can* continue on this forum. There will be many disruptions in life in the coming months, but hopefully DBR can remain somewhat familiar. As someone else said, offseason posting starts now.

jacone21
03-12-2020, 01:40 PM
Very few players get to end on a win - against your arch rival to boot!

Happened last night for some kids I know. I'm pretty bummed they won't get a chance to win the Sunbelt tourney and go to the NCAAT... which will also be cancelled. But I'm glad they got to put a beatdown on the panthers one last time.

10359

dukelifer
03-12-2020, 01:41 PM
It is the forum moderators' request to keep sports and non-sports related aspects of the coronavirus separate. See here: https://forums.dukebasketballreport.com/forums/announcement.php?f=2

I do hope "business as usual" *can* continue on this forum. There will be many disruptions in life in the coming months, but hopefully DBR can remain somewhat familiar. As someone else said, offseason posting starts now.
I agree. Of course what else are we going to do- Sports are officially canceled ;)

lotusland
03-12-2020, 01:48 PM
We need to start discussing minutes and starting lineups for next year in earnest. No need to put that off any longer.

TJ99
03-12-2020, 01:48 PM
New N&O article that says Duke has suspended all athletic completion and if NCAA tourney happens, they won’t participate.

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/duke/article241132426.html

DoubleBlue
03-12-2020, 01:51 PM
So sad that Duke has led the charge into mass hysteria.

dukelifer
03-12-2020, 01:58 PM
So sad that Duke has led the charge into mass hysteria.

Leading is hard. They made the right decision.

AustinDevil
03-12-2020, 01:59 PM
So sad that Duke has led the charge into mass hysteria.

I look forward to this post, which contains zero content related to athletics, being warned or deleted.


Providing sources also tends to be board policy, even just for sports related news. I would think that would go double here. I didn't say you were wrong, just asked for a source, and if you think I'm saying "Business as usual, nothing to see here" WRT the virus you are misunderstanding my posts.


Seems useless to cancel the tournament at this point, where anyone who was going to be exposed as a result of the tournament already has been, but whatever.

You're right about sources. My bad. But the second post here is dangerously misinformed, assumes that one contact on a Tuesday means follow-on contact on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday are somehow just fine (whether in the tournament or in anyone's daily life) and it is indeed exactly what I said it was.

DoubleBlue
03-12-2020, 02:20 PM
Preventive measures should be proportional to the perceived threat. It seems as though these decisions to shutdown all sporting events are disproportionate... based on the worst case scenario, far from anything resembling reality.

Stray Gator
03-12-2020, 02:24 PM
So sad that Duke has led the charge into mass hysteria.

Not nearly as sad, to me, as the distorted priorities of fans who believe that their entertainment should take precedence over the health and safety of the players, coaches, staff, and members of their families -- some of whom are likely of an age and condition that could render them susceptible to life-threatening maladies if infected. It is attitudes like this, as exemplified by Rudy Gobert, that compel the sensible adults to implement measures necessary to minimize the threat of unmanageable contagion, or at least impede its spread so that the health care system is not suddenly overwhelmed.

proelitedota
03-12-2020, 02:26 PM
So sad that Duke has led the charge into mass hysteria.

You're okay with Coach K potentially getting a disease that disportionately affects the old? Even if the mortality rate for his age group is 3%?

Devilwin
03-12-2020, 02:28 PM
I agree..

DukeDevil
03-12-2020, 02:29 PM
You're okay with Coach K potentially getting a disease that disportionately affects the old? Even if the mortality rate for his age group is 3%?

To put this in perspective for those who seem to think 3% is not that bad...the mortality rate for getting a transcatheter aortic valve replacement nowadays is well under 1%, and I'm talking about predominantly over 70 year olds.

scottdude8
03-12-2020, 02:44 PM
Preventive measures should be proportional to the perceived threat. It seems as though these decisions to shutdown all sporting events are disproportionate... based on the worst case scenario, far from anything resembling reality.

The threat isn’t to the players themselves per se. It’s to the community. If the health system gets overwhelmed by an exponential spike in cases, preventable deaths may become less so.

Also, consider those who aren’t 100% healthy. Texas’ Andrew Jones has a compromised immune system because of his battle with Leukemia. This virus could be deadly for him. Heck, as I’ve mentioned I’m immunocompromised because of treatment for a chronic disease. It isn’t JUST older people at play here.

As much as this sucks, it’s 100% the right decision. I’m proud of Duke for leading the way in this.

DoubleBlue
03-12-2020, 02:46 PM
99% politics and 1% reality.

OldPhiKap
03-12-2020, 02:49 PM
99% politics and 1% reality.

ounce of prevention > pound of cure.

tbyers11
03-12-2020, 02:51 PM
Preventive measures should be proportional to the perceived threat. It seems as though these decisions to shutdown all sporting events are disproportionate... based on the worst case scenario, far from anything resembling reality.

Flattening the curve of the exponential infection rate is absolutely critical as a preventive measure. This (hopefully) allows the US to do 2 primary things: 1) Get more tests and access to tests so that people can accurately self-quarantine after they have contracted COVID-19 and 2) slow the infection rate enough so that we don't overwhelm our health care infrastructure for the people who will get very ill from COVID-19 infection and require large amounts of medical intervention.

It is likely that the vast majority of the people in this country will not require critical care or die from COVID-19. The players in the college basketball games would likely not be any worse off after playing games this weekend.

But when the spread of this infection and the onset of severe symptoms in the susceptible sub-population can occur so rapidly every little bit of social distancing helps. We would like to minimize the severe infection zones as much as possible and not end up with entire regions of the country in disarray like Northern Italy.

10363

Troublemaker
03-12-2020, 02:51 PM
Preventive measures should be proportional to the perceived threat. It seems as though these decisions to shutdown all sporting events are disproportionate... based on the worst case scenario, far from anything resembling reality.

Until the worst-case scenario (a swamped healthcare system) has been ruled out, it's best to take extreme measures in an effort to prevent that worst-case scenario from ever occurring.

Unfortunately. Yeah, I was looking forward to March Madness, too.

PSurprise
03-12-2020, 03:15 PM
Does the beatdown of UNC last night still count in their record for the year? :p

hudlow
03-12-2020, 03:18 PM
Does the beatdown of UNC last night still count in their record for the year? :p

You can bet Syracuse is gonna count it.

By the way, I say let's declare Syracuse the winner of The ACCT !!!

bluenorth
03-12-2020, 03:34 PM
Flattening the curve of the exponential infection rate is absolutely critical as a preventive measure. This (hopefully) allows the US to do 2 primary things: 1) Get more tests and access to tests so that people can accurately self-quarantine after they have contracted COVID-19 and 2) slow the infection rate enough so that we don't overwhelm our health care infrastructure for the people who will get very ill from COVID-19 infection and require large amounts of medical intervention.

It is likely that the vast majority of the people in this country will not require critical care or die from COVID-19. The players in the college basketball games would likely not be any worse off after playing games this weekend.

But when the spread of this infection and the onset of severe symptoms in the susceptible sub-population can occur so rapidly every little bit of social distancing helps. We would like to minimize the severe infection zones as much as possible and not end up with entire regions of the country in disarray like Northern Italy.

10363

Well said. Although the players are less likely to contract the virus, many of the boosters are in the age demographic that is most at risk. Not to mention some of the coaches!