This Week in the ACC - 1/13-1/19

[pfrduke]

Duke remains undefeated and has a 1-game lead over Louisville and Florida State. That ends the discussion of teams that feel comfortable about their NCAA tournament prospects. Everybody else - yikes. It's been a long time since the conference was this full of mediocre teams and this thin at the top. Continuing the "it's been a weird season" vibe, Clemson pulled off something it never did before, and Virginia gave up more points in a 5-minute overtime than in a 20-minute half to Syracuse over the weekend. One can only wonder what this week has in store.

Monday is dark - all eyes on New Orleans

Tuesday
[86]Clemson (2-3) (+12) hosts [1]Duke (5-0) (7:00, ESPN)
[75]Pittsburgh (2-3) (+4) hosts [9]Louisville (4-1) (7:00, ACCN)
[100]Wake Forest (1-4) (+1) hosts [57]Virginia Tech (3-2) (9:00, ACCN)

Wednesday
[61]Syracuse (2-3) (-11) hosts [159]Boston College (3-2) (6:30, ACCN)
[14]Florida State (4-1) (-8) hosts [42]Virginia (3-2) (7:00, ESPN2)
[51]NC State (2-3) (-7) hosts [88]Miami (2-3) (7:00, ACCNX)
[81]Georgia Tech (3-3) (-2) hosts [63]Notre Dame (1-4) (8:30, ACCN)

Thursday and Friday are dark

Saturday
[75]Pittsburgh (2-3) (-4) hosts [83]North Carolina (1-4) (12:00, TBD)
[57]Virginia Tech (3-2) (-4) hosts [61]Syracuse (2-3) (12:00, ACCNX)
[88]Miami (2-3) (+5) hosts [14]Florida State (4-1) (1:00, ACCN)
[51]NC State (2-3) (-7) hosts [86]Clemson (2-3) (2:00, ACCNX)
[1]Duke (5-0) (-9) hosts [9]Louisville (4-1) (6:00, ESPN)
[81]Georgia Tech (3-3) (-1) hosts [42]Virginia (3-2) (8:00, ACCN)

Sunday
[100]Wake Forest (1-4) (-8) hosts [159]Boston College (3-2) (6:00, ACCN)

ACC Non-Conference: 119-41
ACC vs. Power 5: 23-26

Efficiency Margin in Conference Play:
Duke - +35.7
Florida State - +15.6
Louisville - +11.2
Virginia - +10.8
Syracuse - +6.8
NC State - -3.3
Virginia Tech - -4.5
Clemson - -4.8
Georgia Tech - -5.0
Notre Dame - -5.5
Pittsburgh - -6.2
North Carolina - -6.3
Boston College - -12.3
Miami - -14.0
Wake Forest - -14.9

[devildeac]

1. Go Devils!!

2. "Sweet Caroline
(Let's Go Pitt)
Good times never seemed so good
(Go Pitt Go Pitt Go Pitt)
I've been inclined
(Let's Go Pitt)..."

[-jk]

Thanks. Here are the current standings, per the ACC (http://theacc.com/standings.aspx?path=mbball):


Duke 5-0 15-1 W9
Florida State 4-1 14-2 W7
Louisville 4-1 13-3 W2
Virginia Tech 3-2 12-4 W2
Virginia 3-2 11-4 L2
Boston College 3-2 9-7 L1
Georgia Tech 3-3 8-8 W1
NC State 2-3 11-5 L1
Pitt 2-3 11-5 L1
Miami 2-3 10-5 W1
Syracuse 2-3 9-7 W1
Clemson 2-3 8-7 W2
Notre Dame 1-4 10-6 L2
Wake Forest 1-4 8-7 L2
North Carolina 1-4 8-8 L3


It needed to be put out there. ;)

-jk

[AGDukesky]

I’m very curious how both UVA games go this week. FSU should really win at home fairly comfortably if it is truly elite. Then we will see how legitimate Ga Tech’s claim is to be a top ACC squad. UVA on the other hand needs to win at least one- especially against FSU - to start building an NCAA resume.

[budwom]

I can see unc has the midweek off...probably a time to focus on academics.

[OldPhiKap]

I can see unc has the midweek off...probably a time to focus on academics.

It's gut-check time for the heels. I would not be surprised to see a players-only meeting called. Someone on that team has to take control and show some leadership.

@ Pitt Saturday is as close to a must-win for them as you can get mid-season. Especially since their game after that is @ VT, which I assume draws a similar atmosphere as when we come to town up there. They can't afford a 6-game slide.

{go Pitt}

[AGDukesky]

It's gut-check time for the heels. I would not be surprised to see a players-only meeting called. Someone on that team has to take control and show some leadership.

@ Pitt Saturday is as close to a must-win for them as you can get mid-season. Especially since their game after that is @ VT, which I assume draws a similar atmosphere as when we come to town up there. They can't afford a 6-game slide.

{go Pitt}

I just hope the underside of the team bus was cleaned off enough to make both trips

[curtis325]

It's gut-check time for the heels. I would not be surprised to see a players-only meeting called. Someone on that team has to take control and show some leadership.

@ Pitt Saturday is as close to a must-win for them as you can get mid-season. Especially since their game after that is @ VT, which I assume draws a similar atmosphere as when we come to town up there. They can't afford a 6-game slide.

{go Pitt}

Let me check my spreadsheet. Well, it looks like they CAN afford a 6-game slide. In fact, a 15-game slide is very affordable for the low, low price of 9F.

[robed deity]

Let me check my spreadsheet. Well, it looks like they CAN afford a 6-game slide. In fact, a 15-game slide is very affordable for the low, low price of 9F.

Haha indeed. I'm still holding out hope for 8-24.

[camion]

Haha indeed. I'm still holding out hope for 8-24.

And Roy retires still tied with Deano. That's the dream. :)

[PackMan97]

If State wants a post-season, we need a sweep against two mediocre teams this week.

I don't know WTH is going on with CJ Bryce, but we are clearly struggling without our most productive player. Official word was concussion suffered in practice, but there have been rumblings that something else is going on. No idea what.

[ChillinDuke]

It's gut-check time for the heels. I would not be surprised to see a players-only meeting called. Someone on that team has to take control and show some leadership.

@ Pitt Saturday is as close to a must-win for them as you can get mid-season. Especially since their game after that is @ VT, which I assume draws a similar atmosphere as when we come to town up there. They can't afford a 6-game slide.

{go Pitt}

@Pitt is unequivocally a must-win for them. They can't go 8-9 and 1-5 in conference and have any realistic shot of making the NCAAT. They would have to finish something like 12-2 and then probably still get a win or two in the ACCT. The probability of that happening would have to be essentially zero given what we've seen to this point.

Even if they beat Pitt, they may still have to go 12-2 after that! But 11-3 at least feels directionally more attainable, if still functionally 0%.

- Chillin

[Troublemaker]

Florida State is ranked #10 in the nation and are 14-2. I haven’t been following them very closely. Does anyone have any thoughts on whether they are as good as that ranking and record might indicate?

Yes, that is the proper area where FSU should be ranked, and perhaps they have the upside to be even higher. They are very athletic and very long at the guard and wing spots, and they combine that with a decent amount of shooting skill (e.g. 75.9% as a team from the FT line).

Keep in mind that FSU was 4-seed / Sweet 16 team last season, they were an Elite 8 team two seasons ago. Their program has seemingly leveled up recently to become very good.

[Dr. Rosenrosen]

@Pitt is unequivocally a must-win for them. They can't go 8-9 and 1-5 in conference and have any realistic shot of making the NCAAT. They would have to finish something like 12-2 and then probably still get a win or two in the ACCT. The probability of that happening would have to be essentially zero given what we've seen to this point.

Even if they beat Pitt, they may still have to go 12-2 after that! But 11-3 at least feels directionally more attainable, if still functionally 0%.

- Chillin
I think there are two key questions yet to be answered on this:

1. Does Anthony play again this year?

2. If he does, and if they start winning again, do the powers that be discount the cheaters' losses during Anthony's absence and sneak them into the field?

[JasonEvans]

@Pitt is unequivocally a must-win for them. They can't go 8-9 and 1-5 in conference and have any realistic shot of making the NCAAT. They would have to finish something like 12-2 and then probably still get a win or two in the ACCT. The probability of that happening would have to be essentially zero given what we've seen to this point.

Even if they beat Pitt, they may still have to go 12-2 after that! But 11-3 at least feels directionally more attainable, if still functionally 0%.

- Chillin

Don't forget, Carolina is in the midst of what was supposed to be the really easy part of their schedule right now. They still have games @NC State, @FSU, @Lou, and 2 with Duke on their schedule. According to TRank, they have the following odds to win each of those games:

@NC State - 21%
@FSU - 11%
Duke - 11%
@Lou - 7%
@Duke - 4%

-Jason "Carolina could play really well the rest of the season, much better than they have so far, and still lose 13+ games" Evans

[budwom]

I think there are two key questions yet to be answered on this:

1. Does Anthony play again this year?

2. If he does, and if they start winning again, do the powers that be discount the cheaters' losses during Anthony's absence and sneak them into the field?

I suspect/trust that the more they lose and the more Ol' Roy swoons and moans, the less apt Anthony is to play again...so they need to keep the ball rolling...

[ChillinDuke]

I think there are two key questions yet to be answered on this:

1. Does Anthony play again this year?

2. If he does, and if they start winning again, do the powers that be discount the cheaters' losses during Anthony's absence and sneak them into the field?

I take the point, but I don't think it matters much honestly. It's not like they looked dominant with him. If UNC loses 12 games and Anthony is back, and they are playing reasonably well, then yeah they will probably get in. But if UNC loses 13 or 14 games? I dunno. They've got at least 16 games left. Currently 8-8.

I don't think they'll go 16-16. But I also don't think they'll go 20-12.

- Chillin

[BD80]

I can see unc has the midweek off...probably a time to focus on academics.


Doubt it. ol' roy is so mad, he has confined them to campus.

[arnie]

I think there are two key questions yet to be answered on this:

1. Does Anthony play again this year?

2. If he does, and if they start winning again, do the powers that be discount the cheaters' losses during Anthony's absence and sneak them into the field?

ACC commish will petition NCAA for special placement in tourney for 16-16 Cheats

[devildeac]

ACC commish will petition NCAA for special placement in tourney for 16-16 Cheats

And claim whatever their final record is to be a "typo." :rolleyes::mad:

[CameronBornAndBred]

ACC commish will petition NCAA for special placement in tourney for 16-16 Cheats

It won't be just the players that go for 16-16, it's all of the students.

[Dr. Rosenrosen]

This headline from the Syracuse site is just so fantastic...

“ACC basketball rankings: Virginia slides, Syracuse moves up, Clemson won a game and North Carolina is deplorable”

(Emphasis mine)

https://www.nunesmagician.com/platform/amp/2020/1/13/21062867/acc-basketball-rankings-virginia-slides-syracuse-up-clemson-won-a-game-north-carolina-is-deplorable

[Ultrarunner]

Let me check my spreadsheet. Well, it looks like they CAN afford a 6-game slide. In fact, a 15-game slide is very affordable for the low, low price of 9F.

Why, that is very affordable. Is there a limit or can I get as many as I want?

[curtis325]

Why, that is very affordable. Is there a limit or can I get as many as I want?

Buy one get one free (available to all students, not just basketball team).

[MarkD83]

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves counting the total number of losses unc will have. Just enjoy them one at a time. And enjoy Roy’s press conferences as well

[devildeac]

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/unc-now/article239248088.html

"UNC’s Brandon Robinson involved in car accident, status for Pitt game unclear"

Thankfully, it doesn't appear he was seriously injured.

[BD80]

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/unc-now/article239248088.html

"UNC’s Brandon Robinson involved in car accident, status for Pitt game unclear"

Thankfully, it doesn't appear he was seriously injured.

My first thought was that ol' roy got carried away with the bus ...

[devildeac]

My first thought was that ol' roy got carried away with the bus ...

No tire tracks mentioned...

[TKG]

My first thought was that ol' roy got carried away with the bus ...

Clown car...

[ndkjr70]

Perhaps I was incorrect in assuming DBR was above mocking a UNC player getting hit by a piece of human filth who decided to drive while drunk.

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

Perhaps I was incorrect in assuming DBR was above mocking a UNC player getting hit by a piece of human filth who decided to drive while drunk.

Not funny to me either.

Get well, young man.

[CameronBornAndBred]

Perhaps I was incorrect in assuming DBR was above mocking a UNC player getting hit by a piece of human filth who decided to drive while drunk.

To be fair, first, it seems very clear that he is fine. And will play, aside from the "unknown status" announcements.

Carrboro Police Captain Chris Atack said there was about $3,000 worth of damage to between both cars, and there were no injuries.
“It was a very small accident,” Atack told The News & Observer.
Second, it involves vehicles, and thankfully a healthy Carolina player. That is too ripe for derision in these parts. Since nobody is hurt, I appreciate the humor, and obviously I'm not alone.
PS, nobody mocked the player, merely the setup. Had Robinson, or anyone, been actually hurt, the tone would be different. See the unfortunate Sylvia Hatchell thread for reference.

[JasonEvans]

Best graphic ever...

https://old.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/eomxk0/animated_acc_race_expected_conference_wins_over/

A graph of conference expected wins since the start of the season. Watch the pale blue line sink...

[Rickshaw]

To be fair, first, it seems very clear that he is fine. And will play, aside from the "unknown status" announcements.

Second, it involves vehicles, and thankfully a healthy Carolina player. That is too ripe for derision in these parts. Since nobody is hurt, I appreciate the humor, and obviously I'm not alone.
PS, nobody mocked the player, merely the setup. Had Robinson, or anyone, been actually hurt, the tone would be different. See the unfortunate Sylvia Hatchell thread for reference.

Thank you.

[arnie]

Best graphic ever...

https://old.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/eomxk0/animated_acc_race_expected_conference_wins_over/

A graph of conference expected wins since the start of the season. Watch the pale blue line sink...

A thing of beauty. How low can they go??

[sagegrouse]

Best graphic ever...

https://old.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/eomxk0/animated_acc_race_expected_conference_wins_over/

A graph of conference expected wins since the start of the season. Watch the pale blue line sink...

Great graphic. Do you have a treatment for the dizziness produced by the animation?

[howardlander]

A thing of beauty. How low can they go??

I was just thinking how surprising it is that they are still picked for almost 7 victories in conference. They are 1 and 4 now. To win 7, they would have to go 6 and 9 in their remaining conference games. I don't have time for a deep dive into their schedule, but I thought the easy part was behind them already.

Howard

[ndkjr70]

I was just thinking how surprising it is that they are still picked for almost 7 victories in conference. They are 1 and 4 now. To win 7, they would have to go 6 and 9 in their remaining conference games. I don't have time for a deep dive into their schedule, but I thought the easy part was behind them already.

Howard

You would be right. Bart Torvik gives them a >50% chance at winning only three remaining games on their schedule; home games against Miami, Boston College, and Wake.

They still have to face VT on the road, us and NCSU twice, and Louisville on the road. T-rank says it’s likely they’ll finish 6-14 in the ACC

[lotusland]

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves counting the total number of losses unc will have. Just enjoy them one at a time. And enjoy Roy’s press conferences as well

I’m just disappointed that I’m having to wait a full week before the next game.

[Dr. Rosenrosen]

Wow, Pitt just got jobbed on a foul call where basket would have tied the game but instead gave LV two free throws. Worst call of the season.

Refs better leave fast. Wow.

[CameronDuke]

UVa +6 at FSU tonight.

BC +12 at Cuse.

Miami +8 at NCSU.

ND +1.5 at GT.

[CameronDuke]

FSU is up 31-24 at the half in Tallahassee over UVa. FSU was 5-12 from 3 that half. UVa was 0-8 from 3. FSU registered 9 steals and UVa registered 11 turnovers that half.

[CameronDuke]

Cuse is demolishing BC at home and NCSU is beating Miami.

[Stray Gator]

The lead segment of the halftime report in the UVA at FSU game was a breakdown of how Clemson "took down" Duke last night. The expert analysts identified several mistakes made by Duke players, and concluded that the main problem was a lack of mental preparation and focus that led to lapses of alertness. Despite devoting about 5 minutes to this feature, none of the three panelists ever mentioned that two of Duke's players who are in the normal rotation were out with injuries -- an interesting omission, considering that ESPN's commentators have almost always attributed UNC's losses this season primarily to the absence of a couple of injured players.

[MChambers]

Stattman for UVa has played 9 minutes, and has zero points, assists, and rebounds, failing to live up to his name.

[CameronDuke]

Stattman for UVa has played 9 minutes, and has zero points, assists, and rebounds, failing to live up to his name.

Yea, most of UVa’s players have failed to live up to that name tonight. UVa has trimmed the lead to 42-39 at the under 8 but is just 1-11 from 3. I think the first team to 50 will win this game. I don’t see either team scoring more than 55 in regulation tonight.

[CameronDuke]

46-44 UVa at the under 4. FSU looks terrible tonight. 6-19 from 3 with 16 turnovers. Not a pretty game to watch.

[robed deity]

There is a lot to like about Kihei Clark's game. But man, there are some plays that must drive UVA fans nuts.

[VA_BDevil]

There is a lot to like about Kihei Clark's game. But man, there are some plays that must drive UVA fans nuts.

like that 20 footer he just took from 25 feet out.

[dukelifer]

46-44 UVa at the under 4. FSU looks terrible tonight. 6-19 from 3 with 16 turnovers. Not a pretty game to watch.

Huh- UVa in an ugly game ;)

[CameronDuke]

49-47 FSU with 1:20 left. UVA is 2-14 from 3 tonight with 17 turnovers.

[CameronDuke]

UVa loses 54-50 for their 3rd loss in a row to fall to 11-5, 3-3. FSU survives to get to 15-2, 5-1.

UVa finished 3-15 (20.0%) from 3 with 18 turnovers. Nine of those turnovers were from Clark.

[CameronDuke]

UVa is now 42nd on Kenpom. Defense is 1st in the country and offense is 234th in the country.

[PackMan97]

Cuse is demolishing BC at home and NCSU is beating Miami.

First game with CJ Bryce back and the Pack wins by 17.

[CameronDuke]

First game with CJ Bryce back and the Pack wins by 17.

Big win for the Pack. Needed that. Cuse throttled BC at the Carrier Dome.

ND locked in a tight one at GT late.

[devildeac]

Stattman for UVa has played 9 minutes, and has zero points, assists, and rebounds, failing to live up to his name.

I haven't checked the box score. Did he end up with a "9 trillion" or even better? :rolleyes:

[CameronDuke]

Big win for ND at GT tonight.

[devildeac]

Big win for ND at GT tonight.

Leaving two teams with only 1 conference win so far this season...

9F

[devildeac]

Strange stat of the night: UVa's Clark barely missed a double/double with 9 TO and 8 pts. :eek:

[roywhite]

Strange stat of the night: UVa's Clark barely missed a double/double with 9 TO and 8 pts. :eek:

In disccussion for a Muggsy Bogues award for undersized ACC players, Kihei Clark wishes he were as good as Chris Lykes.

[PackMan97]

Leaving two teams with only 1 conference win so far this season...

9F

...which leaves one of those two teams with one too many wins.

[MChambers]

I haven't checked the box score. Did he end up with a "9 trillion" or even better? :rolleyes:

Sadly, he missed his chance at immortality. He ended up playing 17 minutes, with 1 rebound, 2 turnovers, and 0-2 from the floor (including 0-1 from three point range).

[devildeac]

...which leaves one of those two teams with one too many wins.

I kinda figured I could count on you for a comment like that ;).

[CameronDuke]

This weekend’s ACC games:

Saturday

Unc at Pitt
Cuse at VT
FSU at Miami
Clemson at NCSU
Louisville at Duke (College Gameday)
UVa at GT

Sunday

BC at Wake

[jv001]

The lead segment of the halftime report in the UVA at FSU game was a breakdown of how Clemson "took down" Duke last night. The expert analysts identified several mistakes made by Duke players, and concluded that the main problem was a lack of mental preparation and focus that led to lapses of alertness. Despite devoting about 5 minutes to this feature, none of the three panelists ever mentioned that two of Duke's players who are in the normal rotation were out with injuries -- an interesting omission, considering that ESPN's commentators have almost always attributed UNC's losses this season primarily to the absence of a couple of injured players.

Commies. :cool: GoDuke!

[Bob Green]

Saturday
[75]Pittsburgh (2-3) (-4) hosts [83]North Carolina (1-4) (12:00, TBD)
[57]Virginia Tech (3-2) (-4) hosts [61]Syracuse (2-3) (12:00, ACCNX)
[88]Miami (2-3) (+5) hosts [14]Florida State (4-1) (1:00, ACCN)
[51]NC State (2-3) (-7) hosts [86]Clemson (2-3) (2:00, ACCNX)
[1]Duke (5-0) (-9) hosts [9]Louisville (4-1) (6:00, ESPN)
[81]Georgia Tech (3-3) (-1) hosts [42]Virginia (3-2) (8:00, ACCN)



Bumping this thread back to the top in preparation for a full day of ACC Hoops. The Pitt vs Carolina game will air on ESPN. Can Pitt hand Carolina their fourth straight loss?

[devildeac]

Bumping this thread back to the top in preparation for a full day of ACC Hoops. The Pitt vs Carolina game will air on ESPN. Can Pitt hand Carolina their fourth straight loss?

Raleigh News and Observer fueling speculation this AM that Cole Anthony returns to play for the cheats again this season, possibly as early as today. I'd link it but it appears to be for subscribers only today.

[CameronDuke]

I’m interested in the UVa game at GT. UVa has lost 3 straight and are on the road against a healthy GT team who has a couple good front court players to complement streaky guards who when hot, can light it up. UVa is +1 so Vegas thinks it’s basically a toss up. A 4th consecutive loss for UVa would be the first time in years for Tony Bennett’s program.

[budwom]

good opportunity for Capel and Pitt to further submerge unc

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Raleigh News and Observer fueling speculation this AM that Cole Anthony returns to play for the cheats again this season, possibly as early as today. I'd link it but it appears to be for subscribers only today.

And BTW, word of warning, once you subscribe to the N and O, it's nearly impossible to un sub.....I mean it's absurd.

[Dr. Rosenrosen]

I just LOVE how the ESPN on-air guys keep talking about Roy’s “least gifted” comments during their broadcasts. It’s the gift that keeps on giving.

edit: no pun intended, but it works!

[arnie]

And BTW, word of warning, once you subscribe to the N and O, it's nearly impossible to un sub....I mean it's absurd.

Yes do not do this. The right click and open in incognito tab is great. Thanks again to whom ever gave that advice on DBR.

[SavDukeGrad]

I just LOVE how the ESPN on-air guys keep talking about Roy’s “least gifted” comments during their broadcasts. It’s the gift that keeps on giving.

edit: no pun intended, but it works!

To piggyback on Roy’s “least gifted” comments...

Was I the only one who noticed the difference in Coach K’s attitude during the Jay Bilas interview that aired during College Game Day?

I’m paraphrasing here, but when Bilas asked Coach K how he reacts after a loss (ie Clemson), he said it had changed in the last decade. He said previously, a loss was unacceptable. But in the last decade, he implied he isn’t as hard on them (presumably because many of them are so young). He said you can’t get to a point where the team thinks you don’t believe in them. Because once that happens, it’s really hard to recover.

It just struck me how opposite it was from the feeling Roy’s players must have had after his comments.

Another reason to love the GOAT!

[lotusland]

Cool how there are no upsets of note to discuss in the “not going to jinx it” thread. Everything is according to expectations.

[Dr. Rosenrosen]

Cool how there are no upsets of note to discuss in the “not going to jinx it” thread. Everything is according to expectations.
I’d say better than expected.

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

Cool how there are no upsets of note to discuss in the “not going to jinx it” thread. Everything is according to expectations.

I'm certainly not upset by any current scores.

[4Gen]

I predict the Cheats will beat Pitt if the panthers are held scoreless in the second half.

[CameronDuke]

Pitt up 43-23 on unc at the half.

[devildeac]

Well, it worked before:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rGqaMkoiyg

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

I do like the gentleman's agreement we seem to have to ignore the Tar Heel game in the Upset Thread.

[OldPhiKap]

I do like the gentleman's agreement we seem to have to ignore the Tar Heel game in the Upset Thread.

To be fair, the favored team is winning.

(I love typing that).

Pitt tossing bricks now, this is ugly basketball.

[Dr. Rosenrosen]

To be fair, the favored team is winning.

(I love typing that).

Pitt tossing bricks now, this is ugly basketball.
Playing not to lose instead of doing what they did for 35 minutes.

[lotusland]

Stall ball Capel style is lame

[richardjackson199]

Stall ball Capel style is lame

don't worry. The presser will not be lame. Never disappoints

[OldPhiKap]

The end of this game is taking forever. The NCAA has to do something about this problem.

[Dr. Rosenrosen]

The end of this game is taking forever.
Adding to Roy’s pain. I kinda like it.

[OldPhiKap]

Re
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[devildeac]

Adding to Roy’s pain. I kinda like it.

Yea, maybe with a few more PF on the cheats, Pitt can get the final margin closer to 20. :cool:

[lotusland]

Adding to Roy’s pain. I kinda like it.

It’s been a trying season for Roy. He deserved a medal for courage.

[Bob Green]

Pitt is young and still learning how to win. Fortunately, their opponent today stinks and couldn’t pull off the comeback.

[devildeac]

cheats looked good...

[MChambers]

To be fair, the favored team is winning.

(I love typing that).

Pitt tossing bricks now, this is ugly basketball.

Only way a UNC game gets in the no jinx upset thread the rest of this year is if UNC is winning. And if they were, who would post about it in that thread, because we’d want to jinx it.

[OldPhiKap]

I liked how the announcer was discussing the “historically bad shooting” at Carolina. Heh.

[devildeac]

Hopefully, this will be a 2 bags of popcorn presser for ol roy...

[moonpie23]

Heels looked good...

[dukebluesincebirth]

These players are still not gifted. Who’s fault was it today Roy?? You or the players??

[jv001]

Only way a UNC game gets in the no jinx upset thread the rest of this year is if UNC is winning. And if they were, who would post about it in that thread, because we’d want to jinx it.

What's the no jinx po-po say about that? :cool:

GoDuke!

[devildeac]

I hope Duke/K can go 2-0 vs the cheats this season...

[peloton]

The cheatin' bunch lose another one - very sad indeed (and if you believe that...). I'll have to be sure to catch Roy's press conference - they've become quite entertaining.

[MChambers]

Heels looked good...

They’re on a roll.

[Dr. Rosenrosen]

They’re on a roll.
Four in a row. They can’t be stopped!

[peloton]

They’re on a roll.

Yes, they're a team with lots of momentum right now...headed in the wrong direction for them, but the right direction for ABC fans.

[peloton]

Four in a row. They can’t be stopped!

I have to say - I laughed out loud at this, Doc - good one.

[devildeac]

Four in a row. They can’t be stopped!

10119

Electric or diesel?

Forward or reverse? Or both?

[dukelifer]

I hope Duke/K can go 2-0 vs the cheats this season...

If they get Anthony back- this is a different team. So I would wait to see what happens with that guy in the lineup. They wont be great, but much better- enough to get out of the basement of the ACC.

[OldPhiKap]

And to think . . . Roy got to coach ‘em up for a whole week!

[brevity]

Only way a UNC game gets in the no jinx upset thread the rest of this year is if UNC is winning. And if they were, who would post about it in that thread, because we’d want to jinx it.


What's the no jinx po-po say about that?

Once again, the no-jinx thread is about protecting favorable outcomes, NOT upsets. I would define any UNC loss as a favorable outcome, so a post on that thread is fair game, even if they play a highly ranked opponent like FSU or Louisville.


Four in a row. They can’t be stopped!

It may be time to wonder if Roy Williams (879-243) will pass Dean Smith (879-254) in the LOSS column.

[richardjackson199]

And to think . . . Roy got to coach ‘em up for a whole week!

We're about to find out what the last thing was they did in practice.

[devildeac]

Once again, the no-jinx thread is about protecting favorable outcomes, NOT upsets. I would define any UNC loss as a favorable outcome, so a post on that thread is fair game, even if they play a highly ranked opponent like FSU or Louisville.



It may be time to wonder if Roy Williams (879-243) will pass Dean Smith (879-254) in the LOSS column.

Well, he already has more losses in chappaheeya against Clemson than dean's myth ever had...

[richardjackson199]

pretty boring presser. The last thing he did in practice was practice post-loss pressers.

[richardjackson199]

though it was fun to hear Roy say - "they really got us back on our heels early"

[richardjackson199]

Raleigh News and Observer fueling speculation this AM that Cole Anthony returns to play for the cheats again this season, possibly as early as today. I'd link it but it appears to be for subscribers only today.

Roy did say in the presser that Anthony will be back "as soon as he's supposed to be out there playing." He said they're not rushing him, but that they said 4-6 weeks and he's a 4.5 weeks now. He basically said he'll play when he's healthy, and that sounds pretty soon.

Kudos to Anthony. Don't want him to miss out on the losing and getting thrown under the bus with his teammates.

[richardjackson199]

Roy also indicated that now that they have a losing record and are losing this late in the season, that this team may not come back and go to the Final 4 and win a National Championship like his other teams that have lost a game.

[richardjackson199]

bummer - Miami should have had the Noles which would have helped our ACC standing, but now it's OT

[bundabergdevil]

Roy also indicated that now that they have a losing record and are losing this late in the season, that this team may not come back and go to the Final 4 and win a National Championship like his other teams that have lost a game.

I know they’ve had some injuries but between Roy’s comments and their slide to last place in the ACC (ain’t it grand), I wouldn’t be surprised if this team just plain quit on ol’ Roy.

[robed deity]

Once again, the no-jinx thread is about protecting favorable outcomes, NOT upsets. I would define any UNC loss as a favorable outcome, so a post on that thread is fair game, even if they play a highly ranked opponent like FSU or Louisville.



It may be time to wonder if Roy Williams (879-243) will pass Dean Smith (879-254) in the LOSS column.

Hey, at 8-20, he'll tie him!

[richardjackson199]

I know they’ve had some injuries but between Roy’s comments and their slide to last place in the ACC (ain’t it grand), I wouldn’t be surprised if this team just plain quit on ol’ Roy.

they're making sure they don't have to face the humiliation of playing in the NIT

[Ultrarunner]

Only way a UNC game gets in the no jinx upset thread the rest of this year is if UNC is winning. And if they were, who would post about it in that thread, because we’d want to jinx it.

Made me laugh, so thanks. Can't spork though - yet.

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

bummer - Miami should have had the Noles which would have helped our ACC standing, but now it's OT

Given the general opinion of the ACC, it might be best long term for FSU to hold their own.

[PackMan97]

Heels are looking better and better with each game! Heels definitely looked good!

[CameronDuke]

At 8-9, 1-5, unc is now 90th on Kenpom. Offense is 111 and defense is 91.

[TKG]

At 8-9, 1-5, unc is now 90th on Kenpom. Offense is 111 and defense is 91.

A recipe for another Helms Trophy/Banner.

[MChambers]

At 8-9, 1-5, unc is now 90th on Kenpom. Offense is 111 and defense is 91.

I prefer T-Rank, where the heels are 113th, 150th on offense and 110 on defense. Obviously, a more sophisticated ranking system.

[wsb3]

And to think . . . Roy got to coach ‘em up for a whole week!

Have to spread around but thank you for the chuckle OPK.