Wendell Moore Broken Hand Vigil

[arnie]

Just saw a headline from N&O that Wendell Moore out with hand injury. I don't subscribe so don't have details.

[kAzE]

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/duke/article238998118.html

Awful timing, as Wendell had really started to come on strong. Get healthy soon . . .

[4Gen]

Per the News and Observer:

No. 2 Duke will be without a key member of its backcourt rotation for an extended period of time.

Wendell Moore Jr., suffered a broken bone in his right hand late in Saturday night’s 95-62 win at Miami and is scheduled to have surgery on Monday, Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski said.

[UrinalCake]

Always hate when guys get hurt, but we have plenty of depth at his position. It stinks that he was really starting to improve and now has this setback. At least with a hand injury he can maintain his conditioning and hopefully will be able to return in time to work his way in before the postseason.

[arnie]

Per the News and Observer:

No. 2 Duke will be without a key member of its backcourt rotation for an extended period of time.

Wendell Moore Jr., suffered a broken bone in his right hand late in Saturday night’s 95-62 win at Miami and is scheduled to have surgery on Monday, Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski said.

Why doesn't the GoDuke site have this? Would think with K releasing the info, they'd be all over it.

[howardlander]

Just saw a headline from N&O that Wendell Moore out with hand injury. I don't subscribe so don't have details.

Right click on the link, then select "Open in Incognito Window". Boom. This is for chrome, but the other browsers all have something similar.

[JasonEvans]

Ugh... at least this is a Duke team with a ton ton ton of depth so we should be able to absorb this loss without too much harm but Wendell was a great defender and one of the better half-court one-on-one creators on the team. I certainly hope he will be back soon!

-Jason "broken hand that requires surgery... I'm no doctor but that feels like something that you do not come back from quickly" Evans

[uh_no]

Ugh... at least this is a Duke team with a ton ton ton of depth so we should be able to absorb this loss without too much harm but Wendell was a great defender and one of the better half-court one-on-one creators on the team. I certainly hope he will be back soon!

-Jason "broken hand that requires surgery... I'm no doctor but that feels like something that you do not come back from quickly" Evans

is there a doctor in the house?

[devildeac]

Must be the shoes...

[arnie]

Right click on the link, then select "Open in Incognito Window". Boom. This is for chrome, but the other browsers all have something similar.

Thanks!!

So now we add the fourth metacarpal bone to the 5th metatarsal we are all so familiar with.

[MChambers]

I remember the play, seeing Wendell grab his hand, but seemingly shake it off. I assumed it was just a jammed finger.

Time for AOC to step up. He's got a chance to earn more minutes.

[kAzE]

Always hate when guys get hurt, but we have plenty of depth at his position. It stinks that he was really starting to improve and now has this setback. At least with a hand injury he can maintain his conditioning and hopefully will be able to return in time to work his way in before the postseason.

I'm not sure I totally agree with this. While we do have depth on the wing, our other wings don't quite have the playmaking chops of Wendell. While Jordan Goldwire has functioned admirably as the "backup point guard," Wendell Moore really has been the true backup play maker. Although his passing accuracy leaves a lot to be desired, Wendell at least could create offense off the dribble, which is a skill this team didn't have much to begin with, and now has even less. Cassius and Alex are more slashers than distributors, and Joey is basically a catch and shoot specialist. I anticipate even more minutes for Jordan Goldwire with this development, and he's going to have to step up his production as a distributor while Wendell is out.

[gam7]

Ugh... at least this is a Duke team with a ton ton ton of depth so we should be able to absorb this loss without too much harm but Wendell was a great defender and one of the better half-court one-on-one creators on the team. I certainly hope he will be back soon!

-Jason "broken hand that requires surgery... I'm no doctor but that feels like something that you do not come back from quickly" Evans

For one datapoint, Steph Curry was projected to be out for at least 3 months with his broken hand that required surgery.

[UrinalCake]

is there a doctor in the house?

I’d prefer if everyone shared their own personal stories involving similar injuries, since those are particularly relevant.

Seriously though, it sounds like it’s way too early to get a timeline on his return. Hopefully we’ll get some updates after the surgery happens. Alex has a great opportunity to step up.

[uh_no]

For one datapoint, Steph Curry was projected to be out for at least 3 months with his broken hand that required surgery.

well, there IS the confouding factor that if he came back earlier, it might derail the Warriors ability to tank for a lottery pick.

[BlueDevil16]

3 months means the season would be over. Hoping he's back sooner - let's see what the team puts out later today or tomorrow.

[scottdude8]

I did absolutely jinx this with my front page article... ugh. I even resisted from including "barring injury" and I still jinxed it!

But, as many have said, if we had to continue our curse of one bad injury every year, this would be the year we can weather it, especially on the wing. Moore has averaged 22 mpg this season: a combo of Cassius, Joey, Alex, and even Jordan and Matt (it small or big lineups, respectively) can easily soak up those minutes.

The most important thing, IMHO, is going to be if either Joey or Alex can step up and "claim" these minutes. In the long run having one of those guys contributing more consistently as "shooting option A", with the other falling into a "B" role, would probably be a huge benefit down the line.

[Natty_B]

Joel Berry didn't miss a ton of time (I think) when he broke his hand right?

[kAzE]

Joel Berry didn't miss a ton of time (I think) when he broke his hand right?

There's 27 bones in the human hand, so it's really hard to compare against other hand injuries until there's more information.

[budwom]

There are 27 bones in the human hand. Perhaps it matters which one he broke. I've always been a metacarpal guy myself.

[CDu]

I would guess 4-6 weeks recovery time from surgery. But that is strictly a guess.

[Natty_B]

There's 27 bones in the human hand, so it's really hard to compare against other hand injuries until there's more information.

Well yeah - but we already used the bad scenario of Curry so I was presenting another.

Anyway here is the Duke statement:

https://twitter.com/DukeMBB/status/1214245462347112457

[uh_no]

Well yeah - but we already used the bad scenario of Curry so I was presenting another.

Anyway here is the Duke statement:

https://twitter.com/DukeMBB/status/1214245462347112457

and that's the last well hear about it until he's out on the floor warming up

[Jaks19]

Jalen Johnson also left IMG Academy and maybe with this happening is there any speculation of him enrolling in Duke for this year?

[budwom]

and that's the last well hear about it until he's out on the floor warming up

That you can count on.

[devildeac]

Joel Berry didn't miss a ton of time (I think) when he broke his hand right?

You must be thinking about *class* time...

:rolleyes:;)

[uh_no]

You must be thinking about *class* time...

:rolleyes:;)

Berry attended all the classes that were required of him.

[jv001]

Hate to hear this news as Wendell was getting better as a point forward. Out of Alex, Joey and Cassius, I believe that Joey is the better ball handler and better passer. However I don't think he's the defender Cassius is. The minutes will probably be shared among; Goldwire, Cassius, Alex and Joey. Man, can we ever have a year we don't lose players to injury.

GoDuke!

[Troublemaker]

Darn, I had been thinking he was probably going to be our best defender against Nwora. Louisville game is Jan 18th.

Oh well.

Get well soon, Wendell.

[devildeac]

I'm sure we'll all be vigilant about his recovery...

Heal quickly and completely, young man!

[Reddevil]

While it probably does not matter much if at all for his return does anyone remember if he is right or left handed?

[Natty_B]

Hate to hear this news as Wendell was getting better as a point forward. Out of Alex, Joey and Cassius, I believe that Joey is the better ball handler and better passer. However I don't think he's the defender Cassius is. The minutes will probably be shared among; Goldwire, Cassius, Alex and Joey. Man, can we ever have a year we don't lose players to injury.

GoDuke!

I believe the Parker/Hood team was healthy all season and look how well that turned out!

[UrinalCake]

Joel Berry didn't miss a ton of time (I think) when he broke his hand right?

I remember that, he broke it punching a door because he was upset that a teammate beat him in NBA 2K. The only time I’ve ever NOT felt bad for a player getting injured.

[devildeac]

While it probably does not matter much if at all for his return does anyone remember if he is right or left handed?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphibious

You had to know this was coming...

[BD80]

I'm sure we'll all be vigilant about his recovery...

Heal quickly and completely, young man!

It's over.

[devildeac]

It's over.

Yea, I wasn't about to be *that* guy.

:o

[scottdude8]

Darn, I had been thinking he was probably going to be our best defender against Nwora. Louisville game is Jan 18th.

Oh well.

Get well soon, Wendell.

With this news it wouldn't shock me if Goldwire starts against Louisville and does nothing but shadow and pester Nwora all game. Yes, there's a size disadvantage there, but I think from a game-plan perspective we'd rather have Nwora forcing the ball inside and having to finish around Vern than being able to get us from deep. Especially after the Florida State game this weekend it's becoming clear that Louisville will go as far as Nwora takes them, so I've got to expect even without Wendell we'll be able to make a game plan that essentially boils down to making the complementary guys beat us.

[BD80]

Yea, I wasn't about to be *that* guy.

:o

Well, you put out this nice solid plank to walk out on to get a view beyond the deck ...

[devildeac]

Well, you put out this nice solid plank to walk out on to get a view beyond the deck ...

"Man overboard!"

[Natty_B]

It's over.

Vernon Carey Jr. was born 3 days before that Duke-Maryland game. So we've reached the point where the joke is almost older than the current roster.

[ndkjr70]

If it's ~6 weeks, which I would think is a safe bet, that puts him back February in time for the game @ NCSU.

Here's the Duke schedule in a 4ish-6ish week return time:

@ Georgia Tech
vs. Wake Forest
@ Clemson
vs. Louisville
vs. Miami
vs. Pitt
@ Syracuse
@ Boston College <--------- 4 weeks
@ u*NC
vs. FSU <--------- 5 weeks
vs. Notre Dame
@ NCSU <-------- 6 weeks
vs. VT
@ WF
@ UVA
vs. NCSU
vs. UNC

[Reddevil]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphibious

You had to know this was coming...

I did, but I was hoping it would slip by.

[UrinalCake]

Especially after the Florida State game this weekend it's becoming clear that Louisville will go as far as Nwora takes them

Except that Nwora had a monster game and Louisville still lost. So maybe limiting everybody else is the key? Regardless, we have a few games to get things figured out. Schedule is pretty light up until then (though not taking anything for granted).

[MChambers]

I did absolutely jinx this with my front page article... ugh. I even resisted from including "barring injury" and I still jinxed it!

But, as many have said, if we had to continue our curse of one bad injury every year, this would be the year we can weather it, especially on the wing. Moore has averaged 22 mpg this season: a combo of Cassius, Joey, Alex, and even Jordan and Matt (it small or big lineups, respectively) can easily soak up those minutes.

The most important thing, IMHO, is going to be if either Joey or Alex can step up and "claim" these minutes. In the long run having one of those guys contributing more consistently as "shooting option A", with the other falling into a "B" role, would probably be a huge benefit down the line.

You beat me to it! Thanks for admitting it, however.

[Natty_B]

Interesting thought:

https://twitter.com/Sam_Vecenie/status/1214269749477048320

[scottdude8]

Except that Nwora had a monster game and Louisville still lost. So maybe limiting everybody else is the key? Regardless, we have a few games to get things figured out. Schedule is pretty light up until then (though not taking anything for granted).

Good point. I will say that that game was an odd one... watching it it didn't look like Nwora was having an especially great game, but then of course he still had 30+ points very efficiently so that wasn't the case. Perhaps it was because he was just making difficult shots? Or I wasn't watching the game with the level of attention I thought I was? Haha.

[scottdude8]

You beat me to it! Thanks for admitting it, however.

I swear I had a conscious moment where I deleted the phrase "barring injury" and replaced it with "barring something unusual" exactly so I wouldn't jinx it. Maybe it was consciously thinking about the jinx that jinxed it?

[JasonEvans]

Interesting thought:

https://twitter.com/Sam_Vecenie/status/1214269749477048320

I find this unseemly and not something to talk about at a time like this.

-Jason "and if anyone says, 'I bet Jason had the exact same thought the moment he heard about this injury' I will strenuously deny it ;) " Evans

[DevilYouKnow]

is there a doctor in the house?

My daughter is an MD, but she pulls for UNC.

I have failed as a father.

[Edouble]

This is a terrible loss. IMO, Wendell had been given more playing time early on that might not have been as deserved, based on early returns. I think Coach K anticipated this gamble, sticking with Wendell, would pay off and then it really did.

Wendell is one of the best on the roster at driving into the paint. He has a real multi-dimensional, plug-the-holes aspect to his game, kind of like Jack White, but at a different position. Wendell is a key part of this team.

This is a significant hit, but you never know how other guys are gonna step up. Maybe Joey, Alex, or JGold get some extra PT and look even better. Fingers crossed.

[CameronBlue]

My daughter is an MD, but she pulls for UNC.

I have failed as a father.

Depends on her Medical specialty. (Okay I'm not sure exactly where I'm going with this. All the kickers I came up with were just too macabre to post.)

[ndkjr70]

I find this unseemly and not something to talk about at a time like this.

-Jason "and if anyone says, 'I bet Jason had the exact same thought the moment he heard about this injury' I will strenuously deny it ;) " Evans

Agreed. I hope he has a Justise-like end to the season, hangs two banners and goes top-20 in the draft next year.

[kAzE]

Interesting thought:

https://twitter.com/Sam_Vecenie/status/1214269749477048320

I mean, if he comes back during the regular season, I don't know what will have changed. It's unfortunate that he injured his shooting hand, but a hand injury is not a career threatening injury, and he will have plenty of time to lead Duke to a national championship and prove he's worthy of going one and done if that was indeed his destiny.

The reality is that he was already looking like a multi-year player, regardless. Although he has improved since the beginning of the season, he doesn't have good NBA measurables (other than his size), and his offensive skills are still well below what would be average for a lottery pick. Wendell's value to this team, and likely his future NBA team(s) is his versatility. He's pretty decent at a number of things on both ends, but not exactly great at any one thing (yet), which I actually view as a negative in terms of his NBA potential. Unless you're a superstar, the NBA is all about specialists, so he will need to develop at least one NBA-quality skill (in his case, most likely perimeter defense) between now and whenever he declares for the draft.

[AZLA]

It depends on which finger(s) or part of the hand affecting which fingers how his game will be affected. This is about a 2 month general full recovery for the average person -- but there is also stiffness and flexibility that takes more time. But in sports (and with Duke medicine), adrenaline and playing with discomfort is a norm. I think there's enough support with the deep bench that they can give Moore additional time to recover. And should. However, I think there will be a slight drop off (that could get picked up). Wendell has been playing great on both ends. He's been a good glue guy like Tre -- good passer too and getting into the lane on offense and disrupting the other team's passing. We won't know to what extent until we see the next game. It's not going to be so much about shooting on offense -- but all the other attributes. I think this is an opportunity for Cassius to play a bigger and much needed role with Wendell out for a while. My guess is without more details -- it's going to be 1.5 months. I'm basing this on recovering from hand surgery (per an earlier post, no i'm not a doctor, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night). Whether or not that means 100% or with some stiffness and soreness just depends on how well the surgery and the rehab is going. Good news is that Wendell can still run and move and stay in game shape. So it all just will depend when the hand feels good.

Sorry this happened to W. He got hit hard -- and was holding his hand long after and was cause for concern. Was hoping for a better outcome.

[heyman25]

Next man up. I would think Alex and Joey would like to step up their games,but Wendell will be missed. To me he has been more like Chris Carrawell in size and style than Justice Winslow. Having Chris as a coach will benefit O'Connell's and Baker's needed improvements in their ball handling and decisions. Goldwire is better at defense so his playing time will go up. That Miami game was so enjoyable to watch. Hope this team will continue to distribute the ball like that game and stay tough as nails on defense.

[heyman25]

Thanks for that incognito news tip. Never knew that. Perhaps some of you using chrome to see if this works. Duke probably has great surgeons but Dr, Shin is the best. A classmate of mine Dr Andrew Klein and a Duke alum is the head of transplant surgery at Cedars Sinai.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/steven-shin-drew-brees-stephen-curry-hand-surgeon-11578004217?mod=searchresults&page=1&pos=1

Dr. Klein
https://carey.jhu.edu/about/leadership/boards-councils/deans-alumni-advisory-board/andrew-kleinurl]https://www.wsj.com/articles/steven-shin-drew-brees-stephen-curry-hand-surgeon-11578004217?mod=searchresults&page=1&pos=1[/url]
WSJ is the best for real news . Not cheap, but is my only subscription on line, Only news that I trust.

[gam7]

well, there IS the confouding factor that if he came back earlier, it might derail the Warriors ability to tank for a lottery pick.

Yes, this is a fair point. This article (https://www.sfexaminer.com/sports/hand-surgeon-chimes-explains-why-stephen-curry-will-be-out-so-long/) from a local SF rag (The Examiner) includes input from a NY-based hand specialist about Curry's injury, which was a fracture to the second metacarpal:

“I’m having a hard time imagining how a second metacarpal fracture takes three months to heal,” said Osei, a product of the University of Pennsylvania’s Perelman School of Medicine and a hand and upper extremity specialist at the Hospital for Special Surgery in New York. “I can’t come up with any scenario. There’s some other piece to this puzzle that’s not clear … Maybe they are being ultra-conservative in getting him back, given the state of the team. Maybe it makes sense, given what’s going on with the team.”

Also interesting - my takeaway is, let's hope that there was no dislocation that accompanied the fracture:

"“Maybe it was more of a dislocation,” said Osei, who has not examined Curry, but has operated on a handful of other NBA players. “That’s possible — where he broke the bone, it came out of the joint, and that would explain it — but index metacarpal fractures almost irrespective of location will heal — the bone part — within six weeks, with or without surgery.”

Recovery time could be added or subtracted depending on where along the length of the second metacarpal the fracture occurred. Metacarpal neck fractures — which occur near the knuckle — are quicker to heal, and typically occur due to a punching motion. Breaks closer to the wrist — a more high-impact, high-energy injury, which is what the two-time MVP likely sustained — are commonly associated with dislocation, and while they heal quickly, the hand’s strength may take longer to return."

[wallyman]

Wait. Is there consideration of a hand transplant? Would that make recovery faster or slower?

[Fish80]

Wait. Is there consideration of a hand transplant? Would that make recovery faster or slower?

Nate James’ hand is being prepped ... need clearance from NCAA ... Nate’s hands are registered weapons. ;)

[BD80]

Vernon Carey Jr. was born 3 days before that Duke-Maryland game. So we've reached the point where the joke is almost older than the current roster.

So that would make it one of the newest jokes in my repertoire.


Have you heard the one about Ramses and Moses playing golf? I was there!

[Chicken Little]

I remember the play, seeing Wendell grab his hand, but seemingly shake it off. I assumed it was just a jammed finger.

Time for AOC to step up. He's got a chance to earn more minutes.

Yep.

4:11 left in the game. He went for a putback on a Javin miss. You can see him in the background clenching his hand while the free throw camera is zoomed in.

Bummer.

[JNort]

I’d prefer if everyone shared their own personal stories involving similar injuries, since those are particularly relevant.

Seriously though, it sounds like it’s way too early to get a timeline on his return. Hopefully we’ll get some updates after the surgery happens. Alex has a great opportunity to step up.

Bet mine was the worst without losing an actual piece of the hand. Got pictures too...


For real though, this sucks for everyone. Just hope he recovers well and can get back to doing what he loves on time.

[SavDukeGrad]

Yep.

4:11 left in the game. He went for a putback on a Javin miss. You can see him in the background clenching his hand while the free throw camera is zoomed in.

Bummer.

Yes exactly. He went to the bench and Jose worked on him for awhile. I mentioned it in the in-game thread because I was concerned - been around too long not to worry about these things.

[MartyClark]

Bet mine was the worst without losing an actual piece of the hand. Got pictures too...


For real though, this sucks for everyone. Just hope he recovers well and can get back to doing what he loves on time.

I broke my 5th metacarpal playing softball. Not dislocated, not displaced. I opted out of surgery, 3 weeks in a cast. It was tender for another month or so but no physical therapy.

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

I broke my 5th metacarpal playing softball. Not dislocated, not displaced. I opted out of surgery, 3 weeks in a cast. It was tender for another month or so but no physical therapy.

I slipped on ice and my pinky finger left hand got caught between pavement and my hip. Broke the puppy good. Almost exactly two years ago in a nasty ice storm. Only now not causing pain anymore on the regular.

This is clearly apropos of nothing else on this thread.

[Indoor66]

I slipped on ice and my pinky finger left hand got caught between pavement and my hip. Broke the puppy good. Almost exactly two years ago in a nasty ice storm. Only now not causing pain anymore on the regular.

This is clearly apropos of nothing else on this thread.

Except that you no longer have pain. 🤣😎

[BD80]

I’d prefer if everyone shared their own personal stories involving similar injuries, since those are particularly relevant.

...


We definitely need a sarcasm emoji. This didn't seem to register ...

[JasonEvans]

Duke officially says it was a 4th metacarpal bone and that though he is out indefinitely, he is expected to return later this season.


DURHAM -- Duke men’s basketball freshman forward Wendell Moore Jr., underwent successful surgery on Monday to repair a broken fourth metacarpal in his right hand. He is out indefinitely, but expected to return this season.

Dr. David Ruch performed the procedure and was assisted by Dr. Marc Richard.

[camion]

We definitely need a sarcasm emoji. This didn't seem to register ...

i got it.

But even an insincere invitation is an invitation that I will accept. :)

Mine was a knee instead of a finger and it wasn't an break, just wear and tear. Still I'm sure you would like to hear about it as much as I would like to pass along my experience. I'll white it out so those of you who don't have the courtesy to read it won't have to.













There.

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

We definitely need a sarcasm emoji. This didn't seem to register ...

I also totally got it. I just chose to ignore it in the spirit of this board and our ability to take any topic wildly off course.

Best of luck to Moore.

Another segue - my phone autocorrected "Moore" to "Moose.". New nickname?

[olddevil]

Duke officially says it was a 4th metacarpal bone and that though he is out indefinitely, he is expected to return later this season.

Better news than I expected. At least he can keep in shape and participate in team activities. This gives a nitche for someone else to step. AOC??

[dukelifer]

He will be able to run and stay in shape but this kind of injury will affect him coming back - particularly shooting the ball. Maybe a mid February return.

[BD80]

i got it.

But even an insincere invitation is an invitation that I will accept. :)

Mine was a knee instead of a finger and it wasn't an break, just wear and tear. Still I'm sure you would like to hear about it ...


So you're saying you kneeded to share?


We all have our compulsions.

[NYBri]

Fortunately, our team is very deep. 😎

[Fish80]

We definitely need a sarcasm emoji. This didn't seem to register ...

When I was a young 8 I accidentally chopped off my fourth finger tip, right hand. It got flung 50 feet in the back yard. They found it before the dogs did and a team of surgeons sewed it back on.

25 years ago I got a stress fracture in my right shin. Kept running for a while. Not smart. Then I also got a stress fracture in my fifth metatarsal, right foot.

Last month a catfish viciously stabbed me with his barb in the palm of my right hand.

Based on my extensive experience, Wendell’s break is painful and not fun. Although he is out indefinitely, he should be back this season.

We definitely need a sarcasm emoji.

[Indoor66]

When I was a young 8 I accidentally chopped off my fourth finger tip, right hand. It got flung 50 feet in the back yard. They found it before the dogs did and a team of surgeons sewed it back on.

25 years ago I got a stress fracture in my right shin. Kept running for a while. Not smart. Then I also got a stress fracture in my fifth metatarsal, right foot.

Last month a catfish viciously stabbed me with his barb in the palm of my right hand.

Based on my extensive experience, Wendell’s break is painful and not fun. Although he is out indefinitely, he should be back this season.

We definitely need a sarcasm emoji.

Actually, you may need a guardian. 😎

[OldPhiKap]

Hoping for a full and quick recovery!

[dukelifer]

Fortunately, our team is very deep. 😎
Just got less deep.

[JasonEvans]

We definitely need a sarcasm emoji.

You could just cut and paste this every time...

https://media1.tenor.com/images/d8de3bbf03ad4a7e3744ff650517f662/tenor.gif?itemid=5692313

[lotusland]

Wait. Is there consideration of a hand transplant? Would that make recovery faster or slower?

Maybe but the anti-hand-rejection drugs are a drag. Prosthetics have gotten way cool tho or a hook would would be pretty rad especially when telling pirate jokes. Btw do you know why pirates are called pirates? Because they ARRRRR of course!

[dukefan5656]

Shooting or non dominant hand?

[UrinalCake]

I mean, if he comes back during the regular season, I don't know what will have changed.

It’s unlikely that he would come back and immediately be able to perform at the same level as when he got hurt. Current draft projections assume a certain amount of development will occur between now and the end of the season, and the injury imposes a setback on that trajectory.

OTOH, maybe getting injured scares him into thinking he needs to take the money while he can. Who knows. Just wish the best for him.

[devildeac]

So you're saying you kneeded to share?


We all have our compulsions.

And sadly, we'll see less of Moore for a (hopefully short) while.

[BD80]

And sadly, we'll see less of Moore for a (hopefully short) while.

Oh, Wendell it ever end?

[Green Wave Dukie]

Oh, Wendell it ever end?

Got to hand it to you. That was a good one.

[devildeac]

Oh, Wendell it ever end?

I'll wager before Junior July.

[msdukie]

Agreed. I hope he has a Justise-like end to the season, hangs two banners and goes top-20 in the draft next year.

Why only 2 banners? I hope he hangs 4.

[jimsumner]

I remember that, he broke it punching a door because he was upset that a teammate beat him in NBA 2K. The only time I’ve ever NOT felt bad for a player getting injured.

When Colin Moran (Pirates) was playing for Carolina in 2012 he made a base-running mistake; ran a stop sign I believe. Mike Fox chewed him out and he went into the dugout, punched a wall and broke a hand. 4th and 5th metacarpals. Missed about a month, IIRC.

[gep]

He will be able to run and stay in shape but this kind of injury will affect him coming back - particularly shooting the ball. Maybe a mid February return.

So maybe his defense will not suffer? Then he should be good for a few minutes a game?


It’s unlikely that he would come back and immediately be able to perform at the same level as when he got hurt. Current draft projections assume a certain amount of development will occur between now and the end of the season, and the injury imposes a setback on that trajectory.

OTOH, maybe getting injured scares him into thinking he needs to take the money while he can. Who knows. Just wish the best for him.

Can he perform at the same level on defense? If so, maybe good for a few minutes a game?

[Jim3k]

Nate James’ hand is being prepped ... need clearance from NCAA ... Nate’s hands are registered weapons. ;)

Not true. Not true. Nate need not be severed. Emily Waner has invented an AI shooting machine which can be attached to his hand.

Can't find the link right now, but it's out there somewhere.

[proelitedota]

Wendell can take my 4th metatarsal bone. All I do is troll on reddit anyways.

[Troublemaker]

So maybe his defense will not suffer? Then he should be good for a few minutes a game?



Can he perform at the same level on defense? If so, maybe good for a few minutes a game?

You're not talking about right now, are you? Even the lowest-usage players in basketball have to be able to catch and dribble the ball; there's no such thing as a literal defense-only role in basketball, especially with the way this team moves and spreads the ball around.

Also, medically, I think the point is to have the finger stabilized in the proper alignment for a few weeks so the finger can heal straight. A hard thwack on the hand as a result of Wendell reaching in while playing defense pretty much ruins the medicine that was being practiced. Too risky.

[Saratoga2]

You're not talking about right now, are you? Even the lowest-usage players in basketball have to be able to catch and dribble the ball; there's no such thing as a literal defense-only role in basketball, especially with the way this team moves and spreads the ball around.

Also, medically, I think the point is to have the finger stabilized in the proper alignment for a few weeks so the finger can heal straight. A hard thwack on the hand as a result of Wendell reaching in while playing defense pretty much ruins the medicine that was being practiced. Too risky.

Duke is always reticent about giving out specific reports on injuries. Does anyone really know more than it was a bone in his hand that was fractured and that he is haviing surgery to repair it? I looked at the possibilities on a bone chart, (https://www.google.com/search?q=bones+of+the+hand&sxsrf=ACYBGNSfphtWHoesU1GUMkLHal2qi8Q0pA:157840419 1474&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=iqHEylc3-57jwM%253A%252C-dy2Sy0sxOanXM%2) and it is so complicated that I wouldn't trust anyone other than his doctor when it comes to his recovery time. I hope he can come back in 4 to 6 weeks but wouldn't want to see him reinjure the hand because he tried too early a return.

[budwom]

Wendell can take my 4th metatarsal bone. All I do is troll on reddit anyways.

A kind and selfless offer, but can the Duke doctors really use a foot bone to repair a hand? :cool:

[Troublemaker]

Duke is always reticent about giving out specific reports on injuries. Does anyone really know more than it was a bone in his hand that was fractured and that he is haviing surgery to repair it? I looked at the possibilities on a bone chart, (https://www.google.com/search?q=bones+of+the+hand&sxsrf=ACYBGNSfphtWHoesU1GUMkLHal2qi8Q0pA:157840419 1474&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=iqHEylc3-57jwM%253A%252C-dy2Sy0sxOanXM%2) and it is so complicated that I wouldn't trust anyone other than his doctor when it comes to his recovery time. I hope he can come back in 4 to 6 weeks but wouldn't want to see him reinjure the hand because he tried too early a return.

I mean, they gave us the specific bone (4th metacarpal) and that he had surgery yesterday; not sure we can expect to be privy to more than that.

As for expected timeline, I would never give that out to fans because I wouldn't want him to feel rushed to meet that timeline, if for whatever reason it goes slower than expected. "Indefinitely" is a good way to handle it.

[arnie]

I mean, they gave us the specific bone (4th metacarpal) and that he had surgery yesterday; not sure we can expect to be privy to more than that.

As for expected timeline, I would never give that out to fans because I wouldn't want him to feel rushed to meet that timeline, if for whatever reason it goes slower than expected. "Indefinitely" is a good way to handle it.

Duke was much more forthcoming on this injury than say “Kyrie Irving has hurt his big toe”.

[Fish80]

Duke was much more forthcoming on this injury than say “Kyrie Irving has hurt his big toe”.

Oh please basketball Gods, undo the jinx!

[Pghdukie]

If your looking for a more detailed release of info - be happy that Duke didn't come out and say "upper body" or "lower body" injury.

[Edouble]

If your looking for a more detailed release of info - be happy that Duke didn't come out and say "upper body" or "lower body" injury.

you're

Ugh, flame away (or spork) if you must, but I'm keeping the dumbing down of the English language off of this board until y'all pry it from my cold, dead hands.

Go Devils!

[BD80]

you're

Ugh, flame away (or spork) if you must, but I'm keeping the dumbing down of the English language off of this board until y'all pry it from my cold, dead hands.

Go Devils!

Colour me impressed …


But rumour has it that Pittsburghers have their own vernacular that will not be subjugated! Didja git dat? Go Stillers!

[Neals384]

I remember the play, seeing Wendell grab his hand, but seemingly shake it off. I assumed it was just a jammed finger.

Time for AOC to step up. He's got a chance to earn more minutes.


Yep.

4:11 left in the game. He went for a putback on a Javin miss. You can see him in the background clenching his hand while the free throw camera is zoomed in.

Bummer.


Yes exactly. He went to the bench and Jose worked on him for awhile. I mentioned it in the in-game thread because I was concerned - been around too long not to worry about these things.

Actually, it happened at 4:40. After a Miami free throw, Jack went to inbound the ball to Tre, but Tre was doubled, so the inbound pass went to Wendell. Wendell dribbled out of a double-team, but lost the handle and the ball went to Vasiljevic. Wendell tried to poke the ball away from Vas. Vas had his back to the camera, so you can't see the actual point of injury, but Wendell immediately grabbed his hand.

I was stunned that no one on the Duke bench seemed to notice, and no timeout was called when Duke regained possession at 4:33. There was a stoppage at 4:28; Wendell did not go to the bench even though he was visibly shaking his hand. He finally subbed out at 4:11 when Javin made two free throws.

Classy move, Hurricanes, going with a full court press trailing by 26 with under 5 to play.

[jimsumner]

you're

Ugh, flame away (or spork) if you must, but I'm keeping the dumbing down of the English language off of this board until y'all pry it from my cold, dead hands.

Go Devils!

Your write. Its not U. Its there fault.

Of course, I could care less.

Literally.

[OldPhiKap]

Your write. Its not U. Its there fault.

Of course, I could care less.

Literally.

LOL. smh.

[camion]

you're

Ugh, flame away (or spork) if you must, but I'm keeping the dumbing down of the English language off of this board until y'all pry it from my cold, dead hands.

Go Devils!

Your right.

or possibly

You're right.

:)

[devildeac]

Your write. Its not U. Its there fault.

Of course, I could care less.

Literally.

They're, they're now. Lettuce knot bee to critical. Yore gramma mite half too bea corrected sum thyme, two.

[devildeac]

Your right.

or possibly

You're right.

:)

Yore quite rite, to.

[camion]

Yore quite rite, to.

Ah, the days of your. :D

[devildeac]

Ah, the days of your. :D

Ee-yore correct.

And, all this because young Mr. Moore broke a bone in his hand. :o

[BD80]

No Moore!

I kant I buy D any Moore.

[Fish80]

No Moore!

I kant I buy D any Moore.

The dude abides?

[billy]

As always, there's limited information to base assumptions on, but here a few thoughts on healing:

Hopefully the fracture didn't involve the joint and was limited to just the shaft of the bone. (This is the most likely scenario, a "Boxers Fracture"). If it did involve only the shaft of the bone, it was likely treated with a plate and screws and it would be relatively stable immediately. That would allow immediate range of motion exercises and potentially a much sooner return to play, possibly with a protective splint. Conditioning-wise, the only limiting factor would be skin healing; swelling control and the prevention of infection would be the primary concerns. Once the skin heals sufficiently, conditioning would be unrestricted. Shooting touch would likely be most affected during the healing process.

If the metacarpophalangeal joint was involved (i.e. the fracture extended into the joint), the timeline for healing could be considerably longer.

[jv001]

As always, there's limited information to base assumptions on, but here a few thoughts on healing:

Hopefully the fracture didn't involve the joint and was limited to just the shaft of the bone. (This is the most likely scenario, a "Boxers Fracture"). If it did involve only the shaft of the bone, it was likely treated with a plate and screws and it would be relatively stable immediately. That would allow immediate range of motion exercises and potentially a much sooner return to play, possibly with a protective splint. Conditioning-wise, the only limiting factor would be skin healing; swelling control and the prevention of infection would be the primary concerns. Once the skin heals sufficiently, conditioning would be unrestricted. Shooting touch would likely be most affected during the healing process.

If the metacarpophalangeal joint was involved (i.e. the fracture extended into the joint), the timeline for healing could be considerably longer.

Thanks for this information. I'm hoping for "Boxers Fracture" if that's the quickest recovery. If it's not, maybe he will do a Ronnie Lott procedure and come back even quicker. Oh, wait that was football and not basketball. Well, I'm sure we'll get the complete information any time now from Coach K. :cool:

GoDuke!

[6th Man]

I don't recall if it was Brown or B.C. but Wendell tried to block a shot and ended up slamming his hand against the backboard. I don't recall if it was his left or right, but I remember the announcers commenting on the fact that the backboard was still shaking. They made a big deal of it and he was looking at his hand then on the bench. I wonder if that left him vulnerable to further injury or if he actually did something that game. At any rate, I wouldn't have been surprised if we got the broken hand news after that game as he performed quite a Hulk smash on the backboard.

[Bluegrassdevil1]

If Wendell Moore ever wears a Duke jersey again, I will leave DBR forever.

[Edouble]

If Wendell Moore ever wears a Duke jersey again, I will leave DBR forever.

Wow. I'd be surprised, since he is supposed to be back this season, not to see him rotated in, in an ACC or NCAA Tournament game, at the least.

[Fish80]

If Wendell Moore ever wears a Duke jersey again, I will leave DBR forever.

Wow. Really boxing yourself into a corner.

I’m looking for a loophole for you and don’t see one. You may be bound by your words. Unless you meant to use the sarcasm emoji? 😉

[sagegrouse]

If Wendell Moore ever wears a Duke jersey again, I will leave DBR forever.

Promises, promises. ;)

[CDu]

If Wendell Moore ever wears a Duke jersey again, I will leave DBR forever.

Is this really your first post since last year (March 9) when you said that "If Williamson ever plays for Duke again, I will never post on DBR again"? If so, why (a) break that promise to (b) only make another promise that you'll break?

[AGDukesky]

Is this really your first post since last year (March 9) when you said that "If Williamson ever plays for Duke again, I will never post on DBR again"? If so, why (a) break that promise to (b) only make another promise that you'll break?

“Obvious troll is obvious”

[jv001]

Is this really your first post since last year (March 9) when you said that "If Williamson ever plays for Duke again, I will never post on DBR again"? If so, why (a) break that promise to (b) only make another promise that you'll break?

He/She almost made it one year. Based on Zion playing again and the OP's record on predictions, I'd say we have a good chance we see Wendell playing again this season.

GoDuke!

[Jaks19]

It was unfortunate that he was hurt but it is good he is coming back this season. Moore has progressed as the season has gone on.

Although I'd be surprised to see him return next year, it would be a great. Not sure there is much of a chance for Hurt or Stanley to return. Moore just needs to show he can shoot the ball better and a return, like Tre's return this year, he might be able to show that his shooting has improved in the off-season. With that said, would he even break into the starting unit? I'm not for or against 5 FR starting as long as the most talented players are on the floor, but would returning benefit his NBA stock. Maybe he could be the starting 3 with Johnson at the 4 and Williams at the 5 if Roach and Stewart are the 2 guards, but there has been high praise for Brakefield lately from recruiting guys do to his shooting/scoring anility.

[Troublemaker]

It was unfortunate that he was hurt but it is good he is coming back this season. Moore has progressed as the season has gone on.

Although I'd be surprised to see him return next year, it would be a great. Not sure there is much of a chance for Hurt or Stanley to return. Moore just needs to show he can shoot the ball better and a return, like Tre's return this year, he might be able to show that his shooting has improved in the off-season. With that said, would he even break into the starting unit? I'm not for or against 5 FR starting as long as the most talented players are on the floor, but would returning benefit his NBA stock. Maybe he could be the starting 3 with Johnson at the 4 and Williams at the 5 if Roach and Stewart are the 2 guards, but there has been high praise for Brakefield lately from recruiting guys do to his shooting/scoring anility.

Quite likely, I'd say. I would expect a big frosh-to-soph jump from Wendell that should easily put him in the starting lineup. Even this season, Coach K has started him 5 times due to his defense, build (6'6" with strength and a 6'11" wingspan), and ability to create (which admittedly needs a lot of work).

He's still a very talented player despite his struggles this season.

[proelitedota]

“Obvious troll is obvious”

Can we remove this dude then from the board permanently?

On the topic of the injury, 6-8 weeks is prognosis for normal people. Wendell might be able to heal in 4 weeks.

[killerleft]

Can we remove this dude then from the board permanently?

On the topic of the injury, 6-8 weeks is prognosis for normal people. Wendell might be able to heal in 4 weeks.

Perhaps he is hoping for the same outcome for Moore as for Zion. That Moore will be back. A reverse jinxish type thing.

[camion]

If Wendell Moore ever wears a Duke jersey again, I will leave DBR forever.

Please someone get a picture of Wendell strolling around campus in a Duke jersey.

[Saratoga2]

Be nice to have an update on Wendell. He is an important part of the team and I hope we see him back by mid February.

[budwom]

Be nice to have an update on Wendell. He is an important part of the team and I hope we see him back by mid February.

Adam Rowe of the Devils Den says he'll be back in January.

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

Adam Rowe of the Devils Den says he'll be back in January.

That's today!

[Dr. Rosenrosen]

Adam Rowe of the Devils Den says he'll be back in January.
Maybe the thread title should be changed to “Bad news for Bluegrassdevil1: Wendell Moore to return in January”

[SouthernDukie]

Maybe the thread title should be changed to “Bad news for Bluegrassdevil1: Wendell Moore to return in January”

Couldn’t spork you, but I do love it! LOL

[frb]

It was unfortunate that he was hurt but it is good he is coming back this season. Moore has progressed as the season has gone on.

Although I'd be surprised to see him return next year, it would be a great. Not sure there is much of a chance for Hurt or Stanley to return. Moore just needs to show he can shoot the ball better and a return, like Tre's return this year, he might be able to show that his shooting has improved in the off-season. With that said, would he even break into the starting unit? I'm not for or against 5 FR starting as long as the most talented players are on the floor, but would returning benefit his NBA stock. Maybe he could be the starting 3 with Johnson at the 4 and Williams at the 5 if Roach and Stewart are the 2 guards, but there has been high praise for Brakefield lately from recruiting guys do to his shooting/scoring anility.

It wouldn't be wise for Moore to leave this year. He's very young for a freshman. His skill set is crude at this point. This was the first time he's ever really had to deal with adversity. Remember, he won Mr Basketball North Carolina Soph, Jr and Sr years. I think this year was a wake up call for him but he has the talent to be All ACC first team next season. My fear is if he goes to the NBA and gets picked in R2, he's going to be overwhelmed in the G League and start drowning. His whole development curve will be thrown off.

I say the same thing for Hurt. He's a major defensive liability at the college level. How much will he be exposed in the pros?

The key isn't getting to the NBA. It's staying in the NBA. Moore and Hurt will benefit by returning.

Carey, Jones and Stanley are good to go. Carey is a physically mature big man with a soft touch. Jones is a defensive standout whose shot is improving.. Stanley is a freak athlete whose shot is coming alone. Stanley could be a lockdown defender with his athletic ability. They're all ready.

[dukelifer]

It wouldn't be wise for Moore to leave this year. He's very young for a freshman. His skill set is crude at this point. This was the first time he's ever really had to deal with adversity. Remember, he won Mr Basketball North Carolina Soph, Jr and Sr years. I think this year was a wake up call for him but he has the talent to be All ACC first team next season. My fear is if he goes to the NBA and gets picked in R2, he's going to be overwhelmed in the G League and start drowning. His whole development curve will be thrown off.

I say the same thing for Hurt. He's a major defensive liability at the college level. How much will he be exposed in the pros?

The key isn't getting to the NBA. It's staying in the NBA. Moore and Hurt will benefit by returning.

Carey, Jones and Stanley are good to go. Carey is a physically mature big man with a soft touch. Jones is a defensive standout whose shot is improving.. Stanley is a freak athlete whose shot is coming alone. Stanley could be a lockdown defender with his athletic ability. They're all ready.

This is all true - but no idea what will happen. NBA drafts on potential as well. Hurt is the one player that needs time- he unlike Moore does not have an NBA body and the consistency of his shot is still a work in progress. He has potential but he will need to decide if he wants that development in the G league or in college. Moore is not elite in any area right now and not a freak athlete. I really have no idea what he will do but would be less surprised if he tests the waters.

[DUKIECB]

So is the report about Moore being back earlier than expected true? I may have missed something. After these last two games I am convinced he was making more of an impact than I first thought. We need his defense and his ability to slash to the basket.

[budwom]

So is the report about Moore being back earlier than expected true? I may have missed something. After these last two games I am convinced he was making more of an impact than I first thought. We need his defense and his ability to slash to the basket.

I'm not sure K is ever very specific about anyone's return from injury, so I'm not sure what "earlier than expected" means in this context. As usual, we'll know when we see him on the court, I've given up trying to read the K tea leaves.

[TeacherTom]

It was kind of like watching a wrestling match as Louisville tried to get the ball. To me, it was sad watching them play the game that way.

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

I'm not sure K is ever very specific about anyone's return from injury, so I'm not sure what "earlier than expected" means in this context. As usual, we'll know when we see him on the court, I've given up trying to read the K tea leaves.

Yes. Also, worth noting that "earlier than expected" might mean different things to us and to K.

[Indoor66]

Yes. Also, worth noting that "earlier than expected" might mean different things to us and to K.

It all demands on what the meaning of "is" is.

[gofurman]

It was said in article on front of web site that he is probable for February and is staying in shape -ill go with late Feb

[budwom]

It was said in article on front of web site that he is probable for February and is staying in shape -ill go with late Feb

tea leaves indicating very early Feb FWIW

[Edouble]

tea leaves indicating very early Feb FWIW

I'll take a cup pot of that tea.

[DavidBenAkiva]

Shawn Crest at Blue Devil Country (https://www.si.com/college/duke/basketball/wendell-moore-not-back-this-week) is reporting that Duke expects Wendell Moore will return from injury sometime in "mid February."

It's been 3 weeks since Moore had surgery on his hand. Obviously, another 3 weeks would be the long end of the 4-6 week estimate. Three weeks is also the home game against Florida State, on February 10th.

[Class of '94]

Shawn Crest at Blue Devil Country (https://www.si.com/college/duke/basketball/wendell-moore-not-back-this-week) is reporting that Duke expects Wendell Moore will return from injury sometime in "mid February."

It's been 3 weeks since Moore had surgery on his hand. Obviously, another 3 weeks would be the long end of the 4-6 week estimate. Three weeks is also the home game against Florida State, on February 10th.

if this is true, outside of Trey and Cassius, why does it always seem like the return of our key players from injuries always seem to align with the longer/longest return projection instead of the earliest one. It would be great to have Wendell for the Carolina game in Chapel Hill.

[UrinalCake]

if this is true, outside of Trey and Cassius, why does it always seem like the return of our key players from injuries always seem to align with the longer/longest return projection instead of the earliest one. It would be great to have Wendell for the Carolina game in Chapel Hill.

I think we just notice it more when it takes longer. Stanley only missed one game earlier this season after an “indefinite” knee injury like you said. Back in 2010 Lance Thomas had some knee injury that sounded really ominous, leading Zoubek being brought into the starting lineup, then Lance was just mysteriously fine.

I also think our medical staff is conservative with letting players totally heal rather than rushing them back into the court. Just because an injury takes X amount of time to heal doesn’t mean they can play immediately.

[freshmanjs]

I think we just notice it more when it takes longer. Stanley only missed one game earlier this season after an “indefinite” knee injury like you said. Back in 2010 Lance Thomas had some knee injury that sounded really ominous, leading Zoubek being brought into the starting lineup, then Lance was just mysteriously fine.

I also think our medical staff is conservative with letting players totally heal rather than rushing them back into the court. Just because an injury takes X amount of time to heal doesn’t mean they can play immediately.

Also, no one from the program ever said Moore was out 4-6 weeks.

[Hartford Dukie]

"Wendell Moore getting closer to returning according to Coach K"

https://247sports.com/college/duke/Article/wendell-moore-duke-blue-devils-injury-update-142803927/

[arnie]

"Wendell Moore getting closer to returning according to Coach K"

https://247sports.com/college/duke/Article/wendell-moore-duke-blue-devils-injury-update-142803927/

I'm glad he's not getting further from returning to the court. 😜 I can't exactly draw a timeline for Moore's return from that comment.

[scottdude8]

"Wendell Moore getting closer to returning according to Coach K"

https://247sports.com/college/duke/Article/wendell-moore-duke-blue-devils-injury-update-142803927/

That's a great sign. "Closer" could mean anything from a week to a month, but it's becoming clearer and clearer that his return is a matter of when and not if. I know the "if" possibility was minor from the get-go, but given the state of modern collegiate basketball and top-tier talent that's never completely out of the question. I'll take all the good news I can get.

[budwom]

That's a great sign. "Closer" could mean anything from a week to a month, but it's becoming clearer and clearer that his return is a matter of when and not if. I know the "if" possibility was minor from the get-go, but given the state of modern collegiate basketball and top-tier talent that's never completely out of the question. I'll take all the good news I can get.

Yes, classic K-speak, "closer" could be a month or three months. It will happen when it happens, just have to wait and see.

[UrinalCake]

Reminds me of a classic joke from Mitch Hedberg

Friend: “This is a picture of me from when I was younger.”

Me: “Every picture of you is from when you were younger!”

[weezie]

Yes, classic K-speak, "closer" could be a month or three months...

Yeah K! We're not falling for that line.

I love K.

[freshmanjs]

Reminds me of a classic joke from Mitch Hedberg

Friend: “This is a picture of me from when I was younger.”

Me: “Every picture of you is from when you were younger!”

Ahhh Mitch. "I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to too"

[Rickshaw]

Ahhh Mitch. "I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to too"

We,re closed.
But the sign says open 24 hours.
Not in a row!

[Reddevil]

We,re closed.
But the sign says open 24 hours.
Not in a row!

"I saw this wino eating grapes. I was like - Dude you have to wait."

Seriously though, can we get rid of the first two words in this post? It scares the Dickens out of me every time like it just happened all over again.

[AGDukesky]

We,re closed.
But the sign says open 24 hours.
Not in a row!

That’s a Steven Wright joke unless Mitch stole it

[Reddevil]

That’s a Steven Wright joke unless Mitch stole it

Yeah, Mitch had one that went kind of like:

I walked by a dry cleaner at 3 in the morning and their sign said Sorry We're Closed.
I was like - You don't have to be sorry. It would be inappropriate for you to be open at 3am.
It's not like I will come in at 10am and say, "I was here at 3am and you were closed. Someone owes me an apology."

Loved that guy. (And Steven Wright)

[Rickshaw]

That’s a Steven Wright joke unless Mitch stole it

Sorry , you’re right both great.

[DukeFanSince1990]

Twitterverse is reporting that Wendell is no longer in a brace....

[DavidBenAkiva]

Twitterverse is reporting that Wendell is no longer in a brace...

It's true! Twitterverse also has a video of Wendell Moore dressed and warming up before the game tonight. Very interesting.

He appears to have a couple fingers taped on his right hand.

[Ultrarunner]

Twitterverse is reporting that Wendell is no longer in a brace...

That would be welcome news. I'm not in a hurry for him to get back though we can really use him. I'd rather he be 100% fit and ready to rejoin the team than come back a week too soon.

[weezie]

Wendell in lay up line no brace

[Furniture]

Great news! Close this thread!!

[billy]

It's true! Twitterverse also has a video of Wendell Moore dressed and warming up before the game tonight. Very interesting.

He appears to have a couple fingers taped on his right hand.

Tape is off - maybe just warm ups, no play today

[killerleft]

According to the Pitt-Duke game announcers last night, the feeling is that Wendell will be back in about a week. Excellent news, if true!

[UrinalCake]

According to the Pitt-Duke game announcers last night, the feeling is that Wendell will be back in about a week. Excellent news, if true!

It wasn’t clear (to me) if that meant back to practice in a week or back playing in games in a week.

[killerleft]

It wasn’t clear (to me) if that meant back to practice in a week or back playing in games in a week.

Hmm. Hope my take was correct. But I tend to be overly optimistic regarding Duke Basketball sometimes.:)

[devildeac]

Clearly, Wendell would have returned a lot sooner had he been outfitted with one of these:

10155

Then the Crazies could have chanted:

"Ro-bert Dow-ney, sit with us"

:o:rolleyes:

[uh_no]

Clearly, Wendell would have returned a lot sooner had he been outfitted with one of these:

10155

Then the Crazies could have chanted:

"Ro-bert Dow-ney, sit with us"

:o:rolleyes:

it wasn't that far off. it was quite the thing.

[MarkD83]

Clearly, Wendell would have returned a lot sooner had he been outfitted with one of these:

10155

Then the Crazies could have chanted:

"Ro-bert Dow-ney, sit with us"

:o:rolleyes:

He would have to ask Zion if he could borrow it

[SkyBrickey]

Julian dropping another Joey Beard in the feature article but gets it right later on. I say just go with Baker Beard of Buckets.

[BD80]

Clearly, Wendell would have returned a lot sooner had he been outfitted with one of these:

10155

...

:o:rolleyes:


He'd have been back in a snap!


But the entire tar heel team would have disappeared.

[rsvman]

Clearly, Wendell would have returned a lot sooner had he been outfitted with one of these:

10155

Then the Crazies could have chanted:

"Ro-bert Dow-ney, sit with us"

:o:rolleyes:

Why do they chant "Sit with us" when they stand the entire game?!?

[brevity]

Clearly, Wendell would have returned a lot sooner had he been outfitted with one of these:

10155

Not sure where it is now. The last time I saw it, it was in Allen Iverson's backpack (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28583970/allen-iverson-backpack-500k-jewelry-found)...

[Pghdukie]

Or Dione Sanders self made Hall of Fame

[devildeac]

Not sure where it is now. The last time I saw it, it was in Allen Iverson's backpack (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28583970/allen-iverson-backpack-500k-jewelry-found)...

Now *there's* the reference /link that I was wondering about last PM from chat...

Thanks!!

[bundabergdevil]

Not sure where it is now. The last time I saw it, it was in Allen Iverson's backpack (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28583970/allen-iverson-backpack-500k-jewelry-found)...

The police recovered it? Sounds like the thief didn't have enough practice...

[Tripping William]

Tweet, tweet: https://twitter.com/dukembb/status/1223659855594082305?s=21

Looks like our guy is back tonight.

[devildeac]

Tweet, tweet: https://twitter.com/dukembb/status/1223659855594082305?s=21

Looks like our guy is back tonight.

Wonderful news!!

[richardjackson199]

Tweet, tweet: https://twitter.com/dukembb/status/1223659855594082305?s=21

Looks like our guy is back tonight.

Awesome! I'll definitely have to drink Moore beer

[devildeac]

Awesome! I'll definitely have to drink Moore beer

Reports to follow?

https://forums.dukebasketballreport.com/forums/showthread.php?3840-Ymm-Beer

[gofurman]

just want him full health; don't push it too hard yet

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Awesome! I'll definitely have to drink Moore beer

...this should be your wendell of opportunity....

[TKG]

Wonderful news!!

As AOC’s minutes dwindle further and further...... not that there’s anything wrong with that.

[Edouble]

As AOC’s minutes dwindle further and further... not that there’s anything wrong with that.

After my initial excitement on Wendell's return, my thoughts next went to Alex. His place in any kind of rotation is in even more serious jeopardy than before, if that is possible.

[MChambers]

After my initial excitement on Wendell's return, my thoughts next went to Alex. His place in any kind of rotation is in even more serious jeopardy than before, if that is possible.

Yes, he’s been struggling, much like Greg Koubek in 1991. Hope he finds his role, like Greg did.

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

After my initial excitement on Wendell's return, my thoughts next went to Alex. His place in any kind of rotation is in even more serious jeopardy than before, if that is possible.

Except, maybe not!

[Saratoga2]

Except, maybe not!

His contribution last night was much needed as was Delaurier's. Vernon, Tre and Cassius set the bar high and Alex definitely played his best game of the year.

[BD80]

Do we beat the Orange last night without Moore?

[dukelifer]

Do we beat the Orange last night without Moore?

Do we beat them with Scheyer on the bench- you never quite know. Nice to have Moore back- he is an able defender - but I yelled pretty loudly at the charge late in the game. Sometimes you wonder what he is seeing on the floor

[rsvman]

Do we beat them with Scheyer on the bench- you never quite know. Nice to have Moore back- he is an able defender - but I yelled pretty loudly at the charge late in the game. Sometimes you wonder what he is seeing on the floor

Or what he is not seeing...... Carey was wide open for a slam.

[devildeac]

I don't think it's a vigil any longer...

:rolleyes:

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Do we beat the Orange last night without Moore?

Depends on whether Baker would've been hot or not (assuming many of Moore's minutes would've gone to Joey)

[MChambers]

I don't think it's a vigil any longer...

:rolleyes:

We still need to remain vigil-ant.

[camion]

We still need to remain vigil-ant.

Wait, isn't that a Marvel hero/villain?

[BD80]

We still need to remain vigil-ant.

Count me as vigil-ante.

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

Count me as vigil-ante.

Not me. I'm on the other side: vigil-anti

[BD80]

Not me. I'm on the other side: vigil-anti

Really? You upped my ante?


Sorry. I've been waiting to use that one.