Welcome to Duke, Mark Williams!!

[JasonEvans]

Just told ESPN he is headed to Durham!!

https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1190358087934320641

[superdave]

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot!

[devildeac]

Couldn't even wait until 500 PM (*).

Great news! Welcome!!

(*yea, I know, it's five o'clock somewhere :o)

[proelitedota]

Is this the deepest class we've ever recruited?

I think he'll be one of at least recruits that will significantly climb the recruiting rankings before 2020 season.

DJ Steward will end up top 10.
Mark Williams will be a 5 star.

[Devilwin]

Is this the deepest class we've ever recruited?

We had six recruits before..

[proelitedota]

We had six recruits before..

Yes, but usually the 5th or 6th guy is a 3 star recruit ala Vrank, Goldwire, or Jack White.

Not those guys can't become contributers later in their career, but all our guys this year are top 40 dudes.

[Reddevil]

Wonderful! How many 7 footers has Duke had? Not too many I recon. Anyway, this was a pretty important commitment considering the unknowns for next year. Great decision Mark!

[JasonEvans]

That Brotherhood branding may be working...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIUA9WZWoAApvM0?format=jpg&name=medium

-Jason "this is what Williams tweeted in announcing his commitment" Evans

[devildeac]

Wonderful! How many 7 footers has Duke had? Not too many I recon. Anyway, this was a pretty important commitment considering the unknowns for next year. Great decision Mark!

Let's see if we list him at 6' 11 11/12" without shoes, of course. :rolleyes:

[JasonEvans]

all our guys this year are top 40 dudes.

Duke 2020 class (247 composite ranking) :

Jalen Johnson - 6
Jeremy Roach - 20
DJ Steward - 26 (but rising fast)
Mark Williams - 29
Jaemyn Brakefield - 38
Henry Coleman - 40

-Jason "Dickinson (#34) and Ziaire (#5) are still possibilities (though longshots, I think)" Evans

[proelitedota]

Duke 2020 class (247 composite ranking) :

Jalen Johnson - 6
Jeremy Roach - 20
DJ Steward - 26 (but rising fast)
Mark Williams - 29
Jaemyn Brakefield - 38
Henry Coleman - 40

-Jason "Dickinson (#34) and Ziaire (#5) are still possibilities (though longshots, I think)" Evans

Thanks for compiling my evidence since I am too busy at work. :cool:

I don't recall a deeper class.

[Billy Dat]

Let's go!!!!!!!!!!!!

[OZZIE4DUKE]

Wonderful! How many 7 footers has Duke had? Not too many I recon.... Great decision Mark!

Zoooooooooooooooobek!

http://www.crazietalk.net/ourhouse/images/smilies/devil9f.gif Welcome to Duke, Mark! http://www.crazietalk.net/ourhouse/images/smilies/devil9f.gif

[TKG]

Wonderful! How many 7 footers has Duke had? Not too many I recon. Anyway, this was a pretty important commitment considering the unknowns for next year. Great decision Mark!

Marty Nessley.

[DavidBenAkiva]

Duke 2020 class (247 composite ranking) :

Jalen Johnson - 6
Jeremy Roach - 20
DJ Steward - 26 (but rising fast)
Mark Williams - 29
Jaemyn Brakefield - 38
Henry Coleman - 40

-Jason "Dickinson (#34) and Ziaire (#5) are still possibilities (though longshots, I think)" Evans

That is just so beautiful. I think I am going to tear up!

[proelitedota]

Marty Nessley.


Vrankovich

[JasonEvans]

Vrankovich

Showing my age... George Burgin (rocket scientist).

[Bob Green]

Excellent Friday afternoon news! My beer just started tasting better.

[TruBlu]

Wojo was a big man (coach).

Welcome to Duke, Mr. Williams!

[Devilwin]

Now if 2 or 3 from this current group returns...

[TKG]

Showing my age... George Burgin (rocket scientist).

Ah, yes, the Tutonic Titan!

[Dukeblue91]

Welcome to the Brotherhood Mark.

[chrishoke]

Welcome brother of Elizabeth!

[JasonEvans]

Welcome brother of Elizabeth!

Hope his career is anywhere close to as good as his sister's was!

-Jason "Elizabeth was national defensive player of the year as a senior... she was the female Landlord blocking shots and grabbing rebounds" Evans

[UrinalCake]

Awesome news! Even though most everybody expected it, I always get antsy right before an announcement, especially when it’s a guy we really really need. He looks like a great complement to next year’s team, which will again be heavy on versatile wings and will need a guy to anchor the post defensively. Needs to put on some weight and won’t exactly be a dominant scorer right away, but he looks pretty athletic and by all accounts has great defensive instincts. Jalen Johnson is known as an excellent passer, so having him at the 4 should make for a really fun front court.

Those who have been wanting us to recruit more “next level” guys who would be expected to stick around a few years rather than wholesale one and dones are getting their wish. And if a couple of this year’s freshmen come back, next year could be pretty awesome. But as it is, we’re in really good shape.

[revmel53]

Excellent Friday afternoon news! My beer just started tasting better.

As did my wine! Hope this kid can play!

[Bluedog]

Is this the deepest class we've ever recruited?

I think he'll be one of at least recruits that will significantly climb the recruiting rankings before 2020 season.

DJ Steward will end up top 10.
Mark Williams will be a 5 star.

2002 class is competition. 8, 11, 14, 21, 30 (so five top 30) and then 71. Pretty impressive considering we were under the shortly lived 5/8 rule (could only give 5 scholarships from same class/year or 8 over two years) so the 6th guy Melchionni had to pay his own way that year...not going to get much better than 71 if can't even give a scholly.

[camion]

Duke 2020 class (247 composite ranking) :

Jalen Johnson - 6
Jeremy Roach - 20
DJ Steward - 26 (but rising fast)
Mark Williams - 29
Jaemyn Brakefield - 38
Henry Coleman - 40

-Jason "Dickinson (#34) and Ziaire (#5) are still possibilities (though longshots, I think)" Evans

Have any of them shown Plumleeesque 3 point shooting prowess? I’m willing to settle for 70 or 80 percent, but another 100 percenter would be nice.

In any event, welcome to Duke Mark Williams.

[Indoor66]

Showing my age... George Burgin (rocket scientist).

I'll show mine - Hack Tison & Jay Buckley. Listed at 6'11" at a time no one listed at 7'.

[Bay Area Duke Fan]

I'll show mine - Hack Tison & Jay Buckley. Listed at 6'11" at a time no one listed at 7'.

Cherokee Parks & Eric Meek.

[CameronBlue]

Showing my age... George Burgin (rocket scientist).

Wow, they had rockets then??

[Indoor66]

Wow, they had rockets then??

Only the Chinese.

[NSDukeFan]

Great Friday news! Welcome to Duke Mark!

[moonpie23]

well, whaddaya know?? it's Malbec:30.......welcome to the party, pal!!!

[Kedsy]

Cherokee Parks & Eric Meek.

Neither of these guys were listed at 7-feet (Meek listed at 6'10"), and by the '90s, real 7-footers were generally acknowledged as such.

[sagegrouse]

Neither of these guys were listed at 7-feet (Meek listed at 6'10"), and by the '90s, real 7-footers were generally acknowledged as such.

Incredible shrinking giants?

Then we have the case of Hack Tison (1961-1965), who, as I recall, was listed as a freshman at 7-0, while sophomore Jay Buckley was listed at 6-11. The next year and thereafter both were listed as 6-10.

[kshepinthehouse]

What’s the scouting report on him?

[jimsumner]

What’s the scouting report on him?

Excellent run-jump athlete, can rebound and protect the rim, offensive game still a work in progress.

[proelitedota]

Excellent run-jump athlete, can rebound and protect the rim, offensive game still a work in progress.

So a 7-1 Delaurier?

[Dukehk]

Welcome to Duke, Mark Williams!

[CameronBlue]

Only the Chinese.

该死的，杰森已经老了！

[wsb3]

I'll show mine - Hack Tison & Jay Buckley. Listed at 6'11" at a time no one listed at 7'.

I thought of Tison..First Duke big man in my childhood memories..But I didn't know if he was 7' tall..

[rocketeli]

This thread (and welcome Mark Williams, hope you have a wonderful time at Duke!) reminded me of a question that occurred to me a while back. How many of the world's available male 7 footers are playing basketball for money, either in a pro league or in college? (Note: this is a very different question from "how likely are you to play pro basketball if you are 7 ft tall.) Some cursory research: There are about 3.5 billion males on the planet and about 13% of them are between the ages of 15-30 which is 910 million guys. The mean height for human males is about 5'9" and the standard deviation is about 3 inches. If you are 7 ft and over you are five standard deviations from the mean, so you are 1 in 1.7 million--meaning that the pool of reasonably available males in the world is 535. Since a certain proportion of overheighted people have health conditions, bad backs, joint issues, or are extremely clumsy or live in a very isolated area, the answer seems to be basically all true 7 foot males who potentially could earn money playing basketball, do so.
If 535 seems low, remember that about 90% of reported heights are inaccurate, exaggerated, or in shoes. Confirmation bias plays a role too--we noticed it when someone claims to be 7 feet, as shown by this thread.

[Indoor66]

This thread (and welcome Mark Williams, hope you have a wonderful time at Duke!) reminded me of a question that occurred to me a while back. How many of the world's available male 7 footers are playing basketball for money, either in a pro league or in college? (Note: this is a very different question from "how likely are you to play pro basketball if you are 7 ft tall.) Some cursory research: There are about 3.5 billion males on the planet and about 13% of them are between the ages of 15-30 which is 910 million guys. The mean height for human males is about 5'9" and the standard deviation is about 3 inches. If you are 7 ft and over you are five standard deviations from the mean, so you are 1 in 1.7 million--meaning that the pool of reasonably available males in the world is 535. Since a certain proportion of overheighted people have health conditions, bad backs, joint issues, or are extremely clumsy or live in a very isolated area, the answer seems to be basically all true 7 foot males who potentially could earn money playing basketball, do so.
If 535 seems low, remember that about 90% of reported heights are inaccurate, exaggerated, or in shoes. Confirmation bias plays a role too--we noticed it when someone claims to be 7 feet, as shown by this thread.

So, does all that crap mean that there are not a lot of 7 footers?

[jv001]

So a 7-1 Delaurier?

Without ever seeing Mark Williams play, I think he will be better than Javin. I think Javin's recruiting rank was ESPN 44 coming to Duke. It's just a feeling I have after watching Javin play for 3 years now. Javin reminds me of a baby deer when he moves. I'm hoping he has a great senior year and that's what I will remember years from now, Lord willing I live that long.

GoDuke!

[rocketeli]

So, does all that crap mean that there are not a lot of 7 footers?

Well, yes, but if also means that if you are a seven foot tall young man in reasonable shape, "U can get a good job."

[camion]

Well, yes, but if also means that if you are a seven foot tall young man in reasonable shape, "U can get a good job."

So I can blame my parents for locking me out of that lucrative market? :mad:

[BD80]

This thread (and welcome Mark Williams, hope you have a wonderful time at Duke!) reminded me of a question that occurred to me a while back. How many of the world's available male 7 footers are playing basketball for money, either in a pro league or in college? (Note: this is a very different question from "how likely are you to play pro basketball if you are 7 ft tall.) Some cursory research: There are about 3.5 billion males on the planet and about 13% of them are between the ages of 15-30 which is 910 million guys. The mean height for human males is about 5'9" and the standard deviation is about 3 inches. If you are 7 ft and over you are five standard deviations from the mean, so you are 1 in 1.7 million--meaning that the pool of reasonably available males in the world is 535. Since a certain proportion of overheighted people have health conditions, bad backs, joint issues, or are extremely clumsy or live in a very isolated area, the answer seems to be basically all true 7 foot males who potentially could earn money playing basketball, do so.
If 535 seems low, remember that about 90% of reported heights are inaccurate, exaggerated, or in shoes. Confirmation bias plays a role too--we noticed it when someone claims to be 7 feet, as shown by this thread.

So what percentage of 7' 6" men in their early 20s named Tacko are playing basketball for money?

[budwom]

So what percentage of 7' 6" men in their early 20s named Tacko are playing basketball for money?

as of now, 100%. $80k/year for a two way Celtics contract. Maybe Belichick can borrow him to block field goal attempts...I've seen nuttier schemes.

[arnie]

as of now, 100%. $80k/year for a two way Celtics contract. Maybe Belichick can borrow him to block field goal attempts...I've seen nuttier schemes.

I’ll take Zion over Tacko for this role. With the right timing and some penetration (which should be easy) Zion blocks all kicks😀

[Rich]

This thread (and welcome Mark Williams, hope you have a wonderful time at Duke!) reminded me of a question that occurred to me a while back. How many of the world's available male 7 footers are playing basketball for money, either in a pro league or in college? (Note: this is a very different question from "how likely are you to play pro basketball if you are 7 ft tall.) Some cursory research: There are about 3.5 billion males on the planet and about 13% of them are between the ages of 15-30 which is 910 million guys. The mean height for human males is about 5'9" and the standard deviation is about 3 inches. If you are 7 ft and over you are five standard deviations from the mean, so you are 1 in 1.7 million--meaning that the pool of reasonably available males in the world is 535. Since a certain proportion of overheighted people have health conditions, bad backs, joint issues, or are extremely clumsy or live in a very isolated area, the answer seems to be basically all true 7 foot males who potentially could earn money playing basketball, do so.
If 535 seems low, remember that about 90% of reported heights are inaccurate, exaggerated, or in shoes. Confirmation bias plays a role too--we noticed it when someone claims to be 7 feet, as shown by this thread.

Trick question...the answer is 0, legally.

[Kedsy]

Without ever seeing Mark Williams play, I think he will be better than Javin. I think Javin's recruiting rank was ESPN 44 coming to Duke. It's just a feeling I have after watching Javin play for 3 years now. Javin reminds me of a baby deer when he moves. I'm hoping he has a great senior year and that's what I will remember years from now, Lord willing I live that long.

GoDuke!

In the 2016 RSCI, Javin was #35. In the 2019 Summer RSCI, Mark Williams was #28. So, a difference but not that big a difference. That said, Mark could rise in the final rankings.

[3rd Dukie]

Showing my age... George Burgin (rocket scientist).

Showing my age...and ignorance...how about Hack Tison??

oops! too late again.

[duke74]

Well, yes, but if also means that if you are a seven foot tall young man in reasonable shape, "U can get a good job."

I’ve told my son as he was growing up that I should’ve raised him to be a lefty relief pitcher. He’d have a career until his 40s in MLB, assuming he had the skills.

[JasonEvans]

Showing my age...and ignorance...how about Hack Tison??

To be clear, the discussion was guys who are actually listed at 7-0 or better... not just Duke big men of note. Everything I can find regarding Tison lists him at 6-10.

[BD80]

To be clear, the discussion was guys who are actually listed at 7-0 or better... not just Duke big men of note. Everything I can find regarding Tison lists him at 6-10.

So where does Laettner fall?* Admittedly falsely listed himself under 7'

*Not to be confused with Tacko Fall ...

[Saratoga2]

This thread (and welcome Mark Williams, hope you have a wonderful time at Duke!) reminded me of a question that occurred to me a while back. How many of the world's available male 7 footers are playing basketball for money, either in a pro league or in college? (Note: this is a very different question from "how likely are you to play pro basketball if you are 7 ft tall.) Some cursory research: There are about 3.5 billion males on the planet and about 13% of them are between the ages of 15-30 which is 910 million guys. The mean height for human males is about 5'9" and the standard deviation is about 3 inches. If you are 7 ft and over you are five standard deviations from the mean, so you are 1 in 1.7 million--meaning that the pool of reasonably available males in the world is 535. Since a certain proportion of overheighted people have health conditions, bad backs, joint issues, or are extremely clumsy or live in a very isolated area, the answer seems to be basically all true 7 foot males who potentially could earn money playing basketball, do so.
If 535 seems low, remember that about 90% of reported heights are inaccurate, exaggerated, or in shoes. Confirmation bias plays a role too--we noticed it when someone claims to be 7 feet, as shown by this thread.

In's all in the cinder block count. All kidding aside, it is rare to find a true 7 footing who is mobile so having one at Duke, like Mark Williams is a plus for Duke and I hope Mark will find it is a great experience for him as well.

[sagegrouse]

To be clear, the discussion was guys who are actually listed at 7-0 or better... not just Duke big men of note. Everything I can find regarding Tison lists him at 6-10.

I'll repeat my earlier post: In the mimeographed hand-outs that passed for game programs during the 1961-1962 season, freshman Hack Tison was listed at 7-0. At the same time, sophomore Jay Buckley, future rocket scientist, was listed at 6-11.

The following season, even though the mimeographs continued, both were listed as 6-10.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Marty Nessley.

I guess Casey Sanders was listed at 6-11.....

[Listen to Quants]

This thread (and welcome Mark Williams, hope you have a wonderful time at Duke!) reminded me of a question that occurred to me a while back. How many of the world's available male 7 footers are playing basketball for money, either in a pro league or in college? (Note: this is a very different question from "how likely are you to play pro basketball if you are 7 ft tall.) Some cursory research: There are about 3.5 billion males on the planet and about 13% of them are between the ages of 15-30 which is 910 million guys. The mean height for human males is about 5'9" and the standard deviation is about 3 inches. If you are 7 ft and over you are five standard deviations from the mean, so you are 1 in 1.7 million--meaning that the pool of reasonably available males in the world is 535. Since a certain proportion of overheighted people have health conditions, bad backs, joint issues, or are extremely clumsy or live in a very isolated area, the answer seems to be basically all true 7 foot males who potentially could earn money playing basketball, do so.
If 535 seems low, remember that about 90% of reported heights are inaccurate, exaggerated, or in shoes. Confirmation bias plays a role too--we noticed it when someone claims to be 7 feet, as shown by this thread.

An interesting question, and a nice first cut. However, there is no good reason to expect male height to be distributed in a clean gaussian at the extremes. Even ignoring inhomogeneities, there is no good theoretic reason forcing a gaussian and darn few real world data sets that allow any feel if human characteristics distribute in a gaussian manner at 5 standard deviations. Takes a mighty big data set to check.

[sagegrouse]

An interesting question, and a nice first cut. However, there is no good reason to expect male height to be distributed in a clean gaussian at the extremes. Even ignoring inhomogeneities, there is no good theoretic reason forcing a gaussian and darn few real world data sets that allow any feel if human characteristics distribute in a gaussian manner at 5 standard deviations. Takes a mighty big data set to check.

I suspect that log-normal would be a better explanation, as it is for many distributions.

That was my original thought, but there are lots of references to the Normal, or Gaussian, distribution for heights, such as this one (http://www.restore.ac.uk/srme/www/fac/soc/wie/research-new/srme/modules/mod1/8/index.html):


The normal distribution is essentially a frequency distribution curve which is often formed naturally by continuous variables. Height is a good example of a normally distributed variable. The average height of an adult male in the UK is about 1.77 meters. Most men are not this exact height! There are a range of heights but most men are within a certain proximity to this average. There are some very short people and some very tall people but both of these are in the minority at the edges of the range of values. If you were to plot a histogram (see Page 1.5) you would get a ‘bell shaped’ curve, with most heights clustered around the average and fewer and fewer cases occurring as you move away either side of the average value. This is the normal distribution and Figure 1.8.1 shows us this curve for our height example.

[BD80]

I suspect that log-normal would be a better explanation, as it is for many distributions.

Log? I thought we had adopted the cinder block standard on this board?

[MarkD83]

Log? I thought we had adopted the cinder block standard on this board?

Some of us were around before the cinder block was invented. So log was used in the “Wooden” era

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

Some of us were around before the cinder block was invented. So log was used in the “Wooden” era

The answer we were looking for was "Lincoln Logs."

[BD80]

Some of us were around before the cinder block was invented. So log was used in the “Wooden” era


The answer we were looking for was "Lincoln Logs."

Excuse me, the "cinder block" standard was a modernized version of the standard I helped usher in with Moses. He was a stud, carrying two of those big heavy sumI'm a real wanker for saying this.I'm a real wanker for saying this.I'm a real wanker for saying this.I'm a real wanker for saying this.I'm a real wanker for saying this.es all the way down the mountain.

Me? I almost made it all the way down with my single tablet. It only contained one commandment: 9F

[DavidBenAkiva]

Duke's twitter account posted this pic. I see that freshman Mark Williams is on his toes here, but Nate James is not a short person. It's been a few years since Duke had a true 7-footer roaming the court. Marshall Plumlee was the last one, no?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhCVWk-UwAAhqgJ?format=jpg&name=small

[jv001]

Duke's twitter account posted this pic. I see that freshman Mark Williams is on his toes here, but Nate James is not a short person. It's been a few years since Duke had a true 7-footer roaming the court. Marshall Plumlee was the last one, no?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhCVWk-UwAAhqgJ?format=jpg&name=small

Mark is one tall dude. If he's not a 7 footer, he's certainly very close. Looks like he could use a little more weight.
Thanks for the picture.

GoDuke!

[Jaks19]

Mark has added weight believe it or not. In an interview a while back with Eric Bossi of Rivals, Mark said he is 7-1 235 and working on adding good eight and strength.

[CrazyNotCrazie]

Duke's twitter account posted this pic. I see that freshman Mark Williams is on his toes here, but Nate James is not a short person. It's been a few years since Duke had a true 7-footer roaming the court. Marshall Plumlee was the last one, no?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhCVWk-UwAAhqgJ?format=jpg&name=small

Looks like roughly eight cinderblocks to me, but there is the whole perspective issue and they might not all be the same size (the bottom one looks smaller). What was the verdict on the size of a cinderblock?

[PSurprise]

Duke's twitter account posted this pic. I see that freshman Mark Williams is on his toes here, but Nate James is not a short person. It's been a few years since Duke had a true 7-footer roaming the court. Marshall Plumlee was the last one, no?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhCVWk-UwAAhqgJ?format=jpg&name=small

I've been noticing a trend of the shorts on players getting shorter. Anyone notice this? Will we be going back to this???

11415

[camion]

I've been noticing a trend of the shorts on players getting shorter. Anyone notice this? Will we be going back to this???

11415

I have long wondered about the difference in energy required to run up and down the court in long vs short shorts. Over the course of a game would it matter?



Inquiring minds sometimes want to know the oddest things. :confused:

[Kedsy]

Duke's twitter account posted this pic. I see that freshman Mark Williams is on his toes here, but Nate James is not a short person. It's been a few years since Duke had a true 7-footer roaming the court. Marshall Plumlee was the last one, no?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhCVWk-UwAAhqgJ?format=jpg&name=small

I'm excited to see Mark Williams on the court. He appears to be a true seven footer and his sister was a favorite of mine when she played at Duke.

On the other hand, that's a *really* high dribble.

[miramar]

I've been noticing a trend of the shorts on players getting shorter. Anyone notice this? Will we be going back to this???

Considering that Jordan started the long shorts style, we should encourage all Duke players to go a bit shorter. Not John Stockton mind you, just not Michael Jordan. After all, they're called shorts for a reason.

PS. It has been a while, so who is that with Greg Koubek? Is that Joe Cook?

[DavidBenAkiva]

Considering that Jordan started the long shorts style, we should encourage all Duke players to go a bit shorter. Not John Stockton mind you, just not Michael Jordan. After all, they're called shorts for a reason.

PS. It has been a while, so who is that with Greg Koubek? Is that Joe Cook?

There's a kid at Memphis, Lester Quinones, trying to bring back the shortest of short-short looks.

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/dailyhelmsman.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/f/46/f46a02a0-08cd-11ea-b689-7be7e2177d39/5dd08f3faa0bf.image.jpg?resize=500%2C862

[miramar]

There's a kid at Memphis, Lester Quinones, trying to bring back the shortest of short-short looks.

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/dailyhelmsman.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/f/46/f46a02a0-08cd-11ea-b689-7be7e2177d39/5dd08f3faa0bf.image.jpg?resize=500%2C862

He's not exactly pulling it off, but I admire his audacity. Turns out that Memphis also has a guy named Lance Thomas who wears them relatively short, and with a name like that he must know what he's doing.

[camion]

There's a kid at Memphis, Lester Quinones, trying to bring back the shortest of short-short looks.

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/dailyhelmsman.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/f/46/f46a02a0-08cd-11ea-b689-7be7e2177d39/5dd08f3faa0bf.image.jpg?resize=500%2C862

Does he have scars on both knees or is it just the lighting?

BTW, that's the way real men were wearing shorts when I was playing basketball. Then again, since I was 5' 7" even the short shorts came almost to my knees. :eek:

[szstark]

Considering that Jordan started the long shorts style, we should encourage all Duke players to go a bit shorter. Not John Stockton mind you, just not Michael Jordan. After all, they're called shorts for a reason.

PS. It has been a while, so who is that with Greg Koubek? Is that Joe Cook?

I thought Michigan’s Fab Five started the long shorts style?

[jimsumner]

Duke's twitter account posted this pic. I see that freshman Mark Williams is on his toes here, but Nate James is not a short person. It's been a few years since Duke had a true 7-footer roaming the court. Marshall Plumlee was the last one, no?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhCVWk-UwAAhqgJ?format=jpg&name=small

Antonio Vrankovic was Duke's last seven-footer. All the way back in 2019.

[mattman91]

Antonio Vrankovic was Duke's last seven-footer. All the way back in 2019.

Ahh, 2019. That was a good year.

[MChambers]

Antonio Vrankovic was Duke's last seven-footer. All the way back in 2019.

He rarely roamed the court.

[mattman91]

He rarely roamed the court.

He was big time for us in the 2019 ACC tournament.

[jimsumner]

He rarely roamed the court.

Frequency of roaming not part of the original implied query.

[mr. synellinden]

Considering that Jordan started the long shorts style, we should encourage all Duke players to go a bit shorter. Not John Stockton mind you, just not Michael Jordan. After all, they're called shorts for a reason.

PS. It has been a while, so who is that with Greg Koubek? Is that Joe Cook?

Indeed it is.

[miramar]

I thought Michigan’s Fab Five started the long shorts style?

Nah, they copied Jordan and took it to the college level. Considering that they didn’t win anything, I guess that was their crowning achievement. Unless you want to count dribbling the ball into the corner in the closing seconds and then calling a TO they didn’t have.

[DavidBenAkiva]

Holly Rowe, formerly of ESPN, has a short ~3 minute video of Elizabeth and Mark Williams. While Mark is following his sister's footsteps in Durham, Elizabeth is oddly following Mark's footsteps at IMG Academy, home of the "Wubble" the WNBA Bubble. It's a neat video of two family members that are tied to Duke as a brother and sister could be.

https://twitter.com/sportsiren/status/1303031449927417859


https://twitter.com/i/status/1303031449927417859

[golfinesquire]

Nah, they copied Jordan and took it to the college level. Considering that they didn’t win anything, I guess that was their crowning achievement. Unless you want to count dribbling the ball into the corner in the closing seconds and then calling a TO they didn’t have.

I was at that game. It was awesome, although UNC did win. Going to the bars on Bourbon Street after was even better. All the bands were asking if there were any Michigan fans in the crowd and then saying, "Oh. Time out."