ACC Football Week 5

[Bob Green]

Here is this week's line-up for the rest of the ACC:

Holy Cross at Syracuse, 12 pm ACCN
Delaware at Pitt, 12:30 pm, ACCNX
#1 Clemson at North Carolina, 3:30 pm ABC
#18 Virginia at #10 Notre Dame, 3:30 pm NBC
Georgia Tech at Temple, 3:30 pm CBSSN
Wake Forest at Boston College, 3:30 pm ACCN
N.C. State at Florida State, 7:30 pm ACCN

[devildeac]

Here is this week's line-up for the rest of the ACC:

Holy Cross at Syracuse, 12 pm ACCN
Delaware at Pitt, 12:30 pm, ACCNX
#1 Clemson at North Carolina, 3:30 pm ABC
#18 Virginia at #10 Notre Dame, 3:30 pm NBC
Georgia Tech at Temple, 3:30 pm CBSSN
Wake Forest at Boston College, 3:30 pm ACCN
N.C. State at Florida State, 7:30 pm ACCN

I hope I hear this at least 10 times on Saturday afternoon/evening-"The Song That Shakes the Southland:"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqGGf1_MC6Y

[OldPhiKap]

I hope I hear this at least 10 times on Saturday afternoon/evening-"The Song That Shakes the Southland:"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqGGf1_MC6Y

I hope UNC gets penalized every time they hold that tiger.

[DU82]

I hope I hear this at least 10 times on Saturday afternoon/evening-"The Song That Shakes the Southland:"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqGGf1_MC6Y

I hope I hear it as often as I usually hear “Jesus Loves the Little Children.” I believe the record count was 41.

(Listen to the cheat’s song sometime and you’ll know what I’m talking about.”

[devildeac]

I hope I hear it as often as I usually hear “Jesus Loves the Little Children.” I believe the record count was 41.

(Listen to the cheat’s song sometime and you’ll know what I’m talking about.”

I'll pass, thanks, but I will trust you on this one ;).

[Indoor66]

I'll pass, thanks, but I will trust you on this one ;).

I'm with you. Listening to that might test the most pious' faith.

[devildeac]

From one of the espn twit-heads:

"Phil Steele
@philsteele042

UNC Football: Ex QB now LB Chazz Surratt getting reps at QB"

Words fail me but this'll do for now: 98039803

[Bob Green]

I'll refrain from posting a link to a UNC site but there is some news I'll share. Back up QB Jace Ruder has been ruled "questionable" for today's game against Clemson so Chazz Surratt has been getting reps at QB in case starter Sam Howell has to come out of the game.

I wonder if he has been practicing that two handed pass technique... :D

[DU82]

I'll pass, thanks, but I will trust you on this one ;).

My apologies for even suggesting you suffer through that horror. (Unfortunately, it’s been embedded in my brain since enduring it way too often during my DUMB days.)

Steal their colors from my Dad’s alma mater, an older, much more respectable institution,
Steal their fight song from a Sunday School anthem,
Steal their alma mater from Cornell,
Steal their seldom used “victory bell tower” lighting idea from the Pack.

I’m sure I’m missing a few others

Let’s go Clemson, my second favorite team (which of course is whoever is playing the cheaters.)

[OldPhiKap]

Ich bin ein Tiger.

[Bob Green]

Halftime: Pitt 10, Delaware 7.

A number of Pitt players are not playing including starting QB Kenny Pickett. Pickett hurt his shoulder last week so I'm going to assume he is being held out as a precaution.

[devildeac]

From one of the espn twit-heads:

"Phil Steele
@philsteele042

UNC Football: Ex QB now LB Chazz Surratt getting reps at QB"

Words fail me but this'll do for now: 98039803


I'll refrain from posting a link to a UNC site but there is some news I'll share. Back up QB Jace Ruder has been ruled "questionable" for today's game against Clemson so Chazz Surratt has been getting reps at QB in case starter Sam Howell has to come out of the game.

I wonder if he has been practicing that two handed pass technique... :D

Great minds and all that stuff...

;)

[devildeac]

My apologies for even suggesting you suffer through that horror. (Unfortunately, it’s been embedded in my brain since enduring it way too often during my DUMB days.)

Steal their colors from my Dad’s alma mater, an older, much more respectable institution,
Steal their fight song from a Sunday School anthem,
Steal their alma mater from Cornell,
Steal their seldom used “victory bell tower” lighting idea from the Pack.

I’m sure I’m missing a few others

Let’s go Clemson, my second favorite team (which of course is whoever is playing the cheaters.)

Not necessary. All funny/good stuff ;).

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Halftime: Pitt 10, Delaware 7.

A number of Pitt players are not playing including starting QB Kenny Pickett. Pickett hurt his shoulder last week so I'm going to assume he is being held out as a precaution.

Please please please Pitt come back and beat Delaware.......(shades of VT losing to ODU last year then coming to WW for a night TV game.....)

[chrishoke]

Delaware 14 Pitt 10, 4 minutes left in the 3rd.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Delaware 14 Pitt 10, 4 minutes left in the 3rd.

Pitt looks awful. Distracted, still have their heads in the UCF game, Narduzzi continues to make idiotic decisions...dropping passes....this QB looks terrible. Man, we don't need them to lose today.

EDIT: Pitt is done. Just committed the kind of mistake you don't make on winning days....the dumbest possible personal foul after stopping Delaware on third down.

[chrishoke]

17-14 Pitt, 10 to go.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

17-14 Pitt, 10 to go.

Are these officials from Delaware. Pitt is being scrod. It's awful.

[AGDukesky]

Please please please Pitt come back and beat Delaware....(shades of VT losing to ODU last year then coming to WW for a night TV game....)

Exactly plus our guys coming off a huge blowout win on the road may not be a good formula for success...

[wsb3]

Are these officials from Delaware. Pitt is being scrod. It's awful.

I switched over to watch but blocked out in our area. I am sure it has been explained but I don't understand the black out hundreds of miles away.

[chrishoke]

Blacked out for me here in Raleigh. WTH?

[chrishoke]

Heels jump out 7-0 on Clemson - 2 WIDE OPEN passes do the trick. Clemson misses a chip shot field goal.

[Bob Green]

Nice opening drive for Virginia to go up 7-0 on Notre Dame.

[chrishoke]

Whew! Pitt wins 17-14.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Whew! Pitt wins 17-14.

Whew is right....unbelievable poor performance by Pitt and the officials...

And can we say it? Trevor Lawrence in a bit of sophomore slump.....

[AGDukesky]

Heels jump out 7-0 on Clemson - 2 WIDE OPEN passes do the trick. Clemson misses a chip shot field goal.

I knew Clemson was going to make UNC look good but figure the tigers will eventually win relatively comfortably

[devildeac]

Pitt looks awful. Distracted, still have their heads in the UCF game, Narduzzi continues to make idiotic decisions...dropping passes...this QB looks terrible. Man, we don't need them to lose today.

EDIT: Pitt is done. Just committed the kind of mistake you don't make on winning days...the dumbest possible personal foul after stopping Delaware on third down.

That comment didn't age well.

:rolleyes:

[devildeac]

I knew Clemson was going to make UNC look good but figure the tigers will eventually win relatively comfortably

Miami (OH) led tOSU, 5-0, in the first quarter last weekend. Final? 76-5. :eek:

Let's hope CU can do the same.

[chrishoke]

Heels 14-7. Wake and BC tied at 10.

[dukelifer]

I knew Clemson was going to make UNC look good but figure the tigers will eventually win relatively comfortably

Not so sure. They are struggling out there

[chrishoke]

BC and WF tied at 17 at the half. Fun game.

[happydays1949]

Nothing better than hearing CLEMSON in Chapel Hill!

[chrishoke]

Virginia scores late to lead the Irish 17-14 at the half.

[PackMan97]

Nothing better than hearing CLEMSON in Chapel Hill!

Please, someone tell Clemson they are not playing BASKETBALL! They are allowed to win this game.

[SavDukeGrad]

Virginia scores late to lead the Irish 17-14 at the half.

Just like they were in Durham last year, UVA players really pumped up on the sidelines. They seem to play with so much emotion and enthusiasm. I guess this is Bronco’s 4th year, but he has really turned that program around.

[devildeac]

Elvis14 might be apoplectic at this time.

Please tell me this isn't happening :mad:.

[Dr. Rosenrosen]

Someone please tell Klempsun they’re not playing basketball at the dump today and that it’s okay not to self destruct.

[SouthernDukie]

What in the Sam Hill is up with Clemson today? Playing slow and dumb.

[roywhite]

Whew! Pitt wins 17-14.

Pitt held out some regulars with various injuries, including QB Kenny Pickett, and figured they could get by Delaware. Almost blew up on them.

I expect to see Pickett play against us; he's good -- mobile and an accurate passer. Had a big game in their loss to Penn State and scored the winning TD on a gadget 4th down play in Pitt's upset of UCF. This will be a real test for Duke, but I think the Blue Devils are up to the task.

[Dr. Rosenrosen]

Lawrence is just terrible right now. Slow. Bad decisions. Like the bad Paul Crewe out there... hmmmm...

[killerleft]

Just like they were in Durham last year, UVA players really pumped up on the sidelines. They seem to play with so much emotion and enthusiasm. I guess this is Bronco’s 4th year, but he has really turned that program around.

Notre Dame seems to always be ranked at least 10 spots too high just because Knute Rockne or something.

[SouthernDukie]

This is just a horrible game from the Clemson offense. They haven’t looked right all day long. Oh, and how pathetic is it the the wine & cheese crowd is giving the Tigers’ OL issues?

[SavDukeGrad]

Notre Dame seems to always be ranked at least 10 spots too high just because Knute Rockne or something.

Totally agree.

I’m not surprised with UVa’s showing today. I am by UNc’s, unfortunately.

Does anyone else think that Clemson’s offensive play calling has been bad today? I know Lawrence is having a off game, but sheesh - you’ve got weapons - use them!

[chrishoke]

Totally agree.

I’m not surprised with UVa’s showing today. I am by UNc’s, unfortunately.

Does anyone else think that Clemson’s offensive play calling has been bad today? I know Lawrence is having a off game, but sheesh - you’ve got weapons - use them!

The heels have blitzed all day and Clemson has yet to burn them.

[chrishoke]

The heels have blitzed all day and Clemson has yet to burn them.

Until now. 21-14

[SavDukeGrad]

The heels have blitzed all day and Clemson has yet to burn them.

And finally, they do!

[Bob Green]

Until now. 21-14

Our buddy Chazz Surratt burned for the TD.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Is it just me, or do several Clemson defensive players look like very average ACC players?

[chrishoke]

Our buddy Chazz Surratt burned for the TD.

Sweet!

BC and WF in a dog fight. Wake by 3 with 6 to go.

[SouthernDukie]

Please don’t tell me UNC is going to tie this up...

[chrishoke]

Heels should go for 2 when they score.

[AGDukesky]

This performance alone should eliminate Clemson from the Playoff

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Please don’t tell me UNC is going to tie this up...

Nope, they'll go for 2, and probably get it. And again, Clemson has mediocre players on D.

[dukie’s_daughter]

Where is the “I *DO* want to jinx it thread”?

[SavDukeGrad]

Heels should go for 2 when they score.

I wonder if Mack will have the guts to do that.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

I wonder if Mack will have the guts to do that.

It's the smart play in this situation IMO.

[SavDukeGrad]

Brent Venables’ defense not looking all-world today. Ugh

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Much as i hate it, there's no way Clemson stops this

[Dr. Rosenrosen]

Oh the disappointment!

[chrishoke]

Suck it Heels.

[chrishoke]

Awful play call.

[SouthernDukie]

Thank the football gods! That was almost a disaster!

GTHC

[Dr. Rosenrosen]

Awful play call.
What are you talking about? It was perfect! ;)

[SavDukeGrad]

Awful play call.

I was sure Mack had some trick play he had been saving all year. Whew!

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Much as i hate it, there's no way Clemson stops this

The rerverse jinx WORKS.

And as someone with ties to Duke and U of South Carolina, this was root canal.

[TruBlu]

Gutty performance by the cheaters, but they still lost. The football gods are good, at least today.
GTHC!!!

[devildeac]

ASU>CU>cheats?

:rolleyes:

[TKG]

Wake goes to Chestnut Hill and gets a conference road win. Deacs are now 4-0.

[rocketeli]

which UNC player wrapped up his own teammate and stopped the two point conversion? He deserves ACC player of the week.

[UrinalCake]

I thought the rule of thumb was always to play for the tie in regulation when you’re at home, and go for the win on the road? Anyways, glad it worked out (for us).

[sagegrouse]

I thought the rule of thumb was always to play for the tie in regulation when you’re at home, and go for the win on the road? Anyways, glad it worked out (for us).

IMHO, where the H got lost in the Daily Tar Heel office, I agree with Mack Brown. Throw out the book. You have, say, a one-in-three chance of beating the #1 team by making two points. I think UNC's chance of winning in OT would have been much less.

[Native]

IMHO, where the H got lost in the Daily Tar Heel office, I agree with Mack Brown. Throw out the book. You have, say, a one-in-three chance of beating the #1 team by making two points. I think UNC's chance of winning in OT would have been much less.

I think UNC's defense was playing far better than their offense. I think it'd have been easier for them to stop Clemson from kicking a FG at the end of regulation than it would be to have to put up more points in OT.

Thankfully, this is all hypothetical.

[Bob Green]

Wake goes to Chestnut Hill and gets a conference road win. Deacs are now 4-0.

5-0.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

I thought the rule of thumb was always to play for the tie in regulation when you’re at home, and go for the win on the road? Anyways, glad it worked out (for us).

That probably is the rule of thumb....but not every situation is a rule of thumb situation. This was the obvious decision. Now the play call was kinda bizarre, but going for 2 with the momentum of a 75 yard drive was the right call.

[Native]

Awful play call.

I wish I could take credit for this (https://twitter.com/redditcfb/status/1178078071653588993):


Why would UNC call the Read Option there, they know their players can’t read

[wsb3]

IMHO, where the H got lost in the Daily Tar Heel office, I agree with Mack Brown. Throw out the book. You have, say, a one-in-three chance of beating the #1 team by making two points. I think UNC's chance of winning in OT would have been much less.

I agree.

[UrinalCake]

You have, say, a one-in-three chance of beating the #1 team by making two points. I think UNC's chance of winning in OT would have been much less.

Making the two point conversion wouldn’t have guaranteed a win, as Clemson still had a minute and change with two timeouts to get into field goal range. But I think the odds of converting are greater than one in three. Closer to half IMO.

[OldPhiKap]

Heels looked good.

[75Crazie]

Heels looked good.
That color NEVER looks good.

[PackMan97]

I wish I could take credit for this (https://twitter.com/redditcfb/status/1178078071653588993):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JieHmC9DH8&t=2s

[moonpie23]

Heels looked good.



awwww.....you beat me to it.... !!!!!

[rsvman]

What is it with Clemson in Chapel Hill?!? Sheesh.

[Bob Green]

Sagarin Ratings after Week 5:

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

5 - Clemson
30 - Miami
35 - Wake Forest
38 - Virginia
41 - Duke
42 - Florida State
43 - North Carolina
54 - Syracuse
59 - Pitt
69 - NC State
71 - Louisville
83 - Virginia Tech
86 - Boston College
100 - Georgia Tech

[Wander]

Sagarin Ratings after Week 5:

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

5 - Clemson
30 - Miami
35 - Wake Forest
38 - Virginia
41 - Duke
42 - Florida State
43 - North Carolina
54 - Syracuse
59 - Pitt
69 - NC State
71 - Louisville
83 - Virginia Tech
86 - Boston College
100 - Georgia Tech

No reason we can't compete for the Coastal title, which Sagarin has as the worst division of a power conference.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Sagarin Ratings after Week 5:

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

5 - Clemson
30 - Miami
35 - Wake Forest
38 - Virginia
41 - Duke
42 - Florida State
43 - North Carolina
54 - Syracuse
59 - Pitt
69 - NC State
71 - Louisville
83 - Virginia Tech
86 - Boston College
100 - Georgia Tech

Interesting...I think Clemson is still over rated at 5. There are some average athletes on D and clearly Lawrence has regressed, and probably Etienne too. Wake and UVa should be higher IMO. I feel good about Duke winning Saturday and moving up too.

[CameronBlue]

Heels looked good.

I hear it was the nylons that set off the ensem.

[Turk]

Went back to the Olde Sod and saw the Pitt game in person. Delaware cashed two short-field turnovers into 14 points. Nick Patti, Pitt's backup QB is a redshirt frosh and zero running threat, and with other players missing due to injury, the Panthers ran a ground-and-pound, dink-and-dunk offense that racked up yards but not points. Patti was inconsistent, missing a couple wide open guys with short passes, but nailed the one big throw that set up the winning TD pass into a tight window. I'm sure Pitt will be much better in Durham.

Pitt had a few very big, very dumb penalties, but there were also some phantom calls as well. The Delaware punter drew one late in the game on a world-class, Premier League quality soccer flop, where the replay showed the Pitt guy missed him by two yards. The punter even "limped" off the field - it was brilliant.

But wait, there's more!

We get home to catch the fourth quarter of cheats / Clemson on the telly, and one of the young Turks starts rooting for the Holes! I of course chew his skinny butt out and yell at him, "what's the matter with you, boy?!?" He responds he's rooting against Clemson, it would be great that Clemson loses, and besides unc stinks at football, so who cares. Evidently, I did not do a proper job parenting this child.

[OldPhiKap]

awwww...you beat me to it... !!!!!

I knew you wanted it said.



Pitt had a few very big, very dumb penalties, but there were also some phantom calls as well. The Delaware punter drew one late in the game on a world-class, Premier League quality soccer flop, where the replay showed the Pitt guy missed him by two yards. The punter even "limped" off the field - it was brilliant.



I think the punter just earned a scholarship offer from Notre Dame.

[olddevil]

I knew you wanted it said.



I think the punter just earned a scholarship offer from Notre Dame.

I am glad UNC lost but I do admire their fight. They deserve some respect for that. There is no shame in acknowledging an achievement of a hated rival.

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

I am glad UNC lost but I do admire their fight. They deserve some respect for that. There is no shame in acknowledging an achievement of a hated rival.

I am happy to acknowledge any UNC near victory.

[devildeac]

I am glad UNC lost but I do admire their fight. They deserve some respect for that. There is no shame in acknowledging an achievement of a hated rival.

Before we all found out they were cheating and lying about it for 23+ years, I used to sorta/kinda grudgingly feel this way. No longer. A loss for them in any sport, by the largest margin of defeat that is mathematically possible, is an event to gloriously celebrate.

[CameronBlue]

Before we all found out they were cheating and lying about it for 23+ years, I used to sorta/kinda grudgingly feel this way. No longer. A loss for them in any sport, by the largest margin of defeat that is mathematically possible, is an event to gloriously celebrate.

The death of integrity is an irredeemable blow to the soul. UNC is dead to me.

[JStuart]

Before we all found out they were cheating and lying about it for 23+ years, I used to sorta/kinda grudgingly feel this way. No longer. A loss for them in any sport, by the largest margin of defeat that is mathematically possible, is an event to gloriously celebrate.

This is the absolute truth. As a lifelong Duke fan, child of Duke grads, and a Durham native, I also -grudgingly- accepted a certain quality of accomplishment at my state university. Never imagined in my wildest dreams that they would come up with such a brazen scam, nor that they would stonewall in such a lawyerly fashion.
And to avoid punishment from the NCAA due to a 'typo'? Unbelieveable. And now Kansas is under 'investigation?'

Much of the pleasure and wonderment that has been ACC competition -academic and athletic- has dissipated for me, all due to carolina's behavior, and their fans' belief that they are innocent: 'no collusion!' Watch them point to Kansas as a 'REAL' cheater, and then recall how many of unc's administrators involved in the cheating are now at Kansas, and vv.
JStuart

[roge054]

Over many decades never viewed them as academic peers. Knew instinctively that most of these young men were not up to the demands of university rigors. Listening to them in interviews made it obvious. No class work more time to work on your game. What did surprise was that leadership had made cheating a part of the fabric of the whole enterprise. I have never respected that place.
Even in our depths of losing periods, basketball and football, I always took pride that Duke was serious about educating our students. There were times it was the only argument I had. And that's the best one to have!! 9f