A Modest Suggestion for the Pelicans

[rocketeli]

The Dukies in the NBA thread is ruined beyond repair, so I'm going to post this NBA related thought here. What about the Pelicans going after JJ Redick? They really, really need a great shooter and with the excellent defensive players they already have they could easily make up for any deficiencies in that area (which are a bit overblown in my opinion anyway.)

[budwom]

The Dukies in the NBA thread is ruined beyond repair, so I'm going to post this NBA related thought here. What about the Pelicans going after JJ Redick? They really, really need a great shooter and with the excellent defensive players they already have they could easily make up for any deficiencies in that area (which are a bit overblown in my opinion anyway.)

I'd been thinking about him for the Lakers as well, though certainly not as the ultra star LBJ is looking for...but who wants the drama of playing for that mess (and it will be a mess).

Here's a key factor....Redick lives in Brooklyn with his wife and kids, near some of her family...kids go to preschool i believe...it is VERY unlikely he will stray far from there, this year he commuted to Philadelphia, not that far, really.

So I would strongly suspect he will find something close by...the Nyets seem to be on the rise right in his back yard, or he could re-up with Philly...hopefully he avoids The Nix...given domestic tranquility, I think he stays close to home, even if it means giving up some money...the twelve million he earned last year was solid, no reason for him to get greedy. I think Elton Brand will see him as a bargain...

[BeachBlueDevil]

While I think JJ would be perfect in LA (Pelicans to some extent, they could use a veteran for all the young guys), he's not leaving the east coast. He either ends up with Brooklyn, the Knicks or the 76ers for less money than last year. As budwom pointed out, he has strong ties to Brooklyn and I remember listening to his podcast and hearing that he also purchased a home in Brooklyn.

[Edouble]

While I think JJ would be perfect in LA (Pelicans to some extent, they could use a veteran for all the young guys), he's not leaving the east coast. He either ends up with Brooklyn, the Knicks or the 76ers for less money than last year. As budwom pointed out, he has strong ties to Brooklyn and I remember listening to his podcast and hearing that he also purchased a home in Brooklyn.

I mean... how do you know this? He used to play for the Clippers. It's not that crazy to see (ringless in college and the pros) JJ chase a championship with LeBron in LA

[UrinalCake]

I mean... how do you know this? He used to play for the Clippers. It's not that crazy to see (ringless in college and the pros) JJ chase a championship with LeBron in LA

I obviously don't know him but I've listened to many of his podcasts and he has at times opened up about his off-the-court life. Based on what's he's shared, I would agree that his preference would likely be to stay on the east coast. I wouldn't completely rule out a move to a farther destination, but I think it's a strong factor in his decision. He seems like a guy who's really committed to his family and he has said that the constant travel and being away from home is the hardest part of being an NBA player. He also said that he wouldn't consider a career in coaching because the time demands would be too much for his family life.

Weighing against that would be his desire to win a title (he has also spoken about how often he thinks about having never won a title at Duke and how much it weighs on him) plus the understanding that he may only get one more shot at a decent payday. If somebody out west offers him a multi-year deal, say 3yr/25mil, then he'd be pretty tempted to take that rather than the continued uncertainty of these one year deals.

[sagegrouse]

I obviously don't know him but I've listened to many of his podcasts and he has at times opened up about his off-the-court life. Based on what's he's shared, I would agree that his preference would likely be to stay on the east coast. I wouldn't completely rule out a move to a farther destination, but I think it's a strong factor in his decision. He seems like a guy who's really committed to his family and he has said that the constant travel and being away from home is the hardest part of being an NBA player. He also said that he wouldn't consider a career in coaching because the time demands would be too much for his family life.
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Not too many players who have made $91 million in the NBA turn to coaching in college.

Patrick Ewing, who made $125 million and is now the coach at Georgetown, and Juwan Howard, who made $151 million and is coaching Michigan, being exceptions.

[Reddevil]

Generally speaking, veterans are motivated by a chance to win a title. We don't know JJ's priorities, but the Lakers do offer an interesting possibility including more $$. That said, so do the Sixers minus the extra money, but that is where his priorities come in. A Kyrie - JJ backcourt with the Nets would be fun too. I don't see him wanting to go with a start-up like New Orleans that is far from home and offers no shot at a title in the short run. I just think it is cool that he has worked himself into a solid professional and carved out a very nice career for himself exceeding so many others that looked like sure things. I wonder if he ever thinks about having that LSU game back knowing what he knows now.

[Furniture]

The Dukies in the NBA thread is ruined beyond repair

Since I started the Dukies in the NBA thread should I take the sabotage as a personal insult. It’s quite absurd what happened. Or is it some kind of Russian interference with the democracy of DBR?

[UrinalCake]

Since I started the Dukies in the NBA thread should I take the sabotage as a personal insult. It’s quite absurd what happened. Or is it some kind of Russian interference with the democracy of DBR?

Nah, just summertime boredom. Threads tend to drift.

[UrinalCake]

BTW I also saw a report that the Sixers are trying to sign Danny Green. I would think this would affect Redick as they play a similar role as floor spacers. Green has a reputation as being a great defender, though honestly I didn’t see it in the Finals. Redick also moves without the ball so much better, Green is more of a stand around in the corner kind of guy.

[Edouble]

I obviously don't know him but I've listened to many of his podcasts and he has at times opened up about his off-the-court life. Based on what's he's shared, I would agree that his preference would likely be to stay on the east coast. I wouldn't completely rule out a move to a farther destination, but I think it's a strong factor in his decision. He seems like a guy who's really committed to his family and he has said that the constant travel and being away from home is the hardest part of being an NBA player. He also said that he wouldn't consider a career in coaching because the time demands would be too much for his family life.

Agree 100%


While I think JJ would be perfect in LA (Pelicans to some extent, they could use a veteran for all the young guys), he's not leaving the east coast. He either ends up with Brooklyn, the Knicks or the 76ers for less money than last year. As budwom pointed out, he has strong ties to Brooklyn and I remember listening to his podcast and hearing that he also purchased a home in Brooklyn.

Too bold and speculative for me.

As UrinalCake mentions, I have also heard JJ speak on how often he thinks about having never won a title at Duke and how much it weighs on him. I'd give him just as good a chance to sign with LAL as with the Knicks.

[bundabergdevil]

BTW I also saw a report that the Sixers are trying to sign Danny Green. I would think this would affect Redick as they play a similar role as floor spacers. Green has a reputation as being a great defender, though honestly I didn’t see it in the Finals. Redick also moves without the ball so much better, Green is more of a stand around in the corner kind of guy.

It sounds like several teams will be competing the same pool of shooters. Woj mentioned Seth Curry, Green, and JJ as potential Lakers targets to help them fill out their roster with some shooting. I'm just really happy for JJ --- he turns 35 next week and there's still a robust market for his talents and leadership. Not a lot of NBA players even make it to that age let alone have competition for their services.

I seem to recall part of his diet change and commitment to his body was giving up Bojangles in college. Who would have thought then that no more chicken and biscuits in college would help contribute to NBA career longevity at 35?


...wish someone had told me at 19/20 to give up Bojangles but she's a cunning mistress and I'm easily seduced.

[SupaDave]

Not too many players who have made $91 million in the NBA turn to coaching in college.

Patrick Ewing, who made $125 million and is now the coach at Georgetown, and Juwan Howard, who made $151 million and is coaching Michigan, being exceptions.

You sure bout that?

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[OldPhiKap]

TL;DR, but does this thread advocate eating small Irish children? Hoping not.

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

I suspect they go hard after Lance Thomas.

Jk

[plimnko]

the best thing the pelicans can do is move the team and not tell lavar. lol

[budwom]

TL;DR, but does this thread advocate eating small Irish children? Hoping not.

doff of the literary cap to you, sir.

[AZLA]

The Dukies in the NBA thread is ruined beyond repair, so I'm going to post this NBA related thought here. What about the Pelicans going after JJ Redick? They really, really need a great shooter and with the excellent defensive players they already have they could easily make up for any deficiencies in that area (which are a bit overblown in my opinion anyway.)

I like this thread but can we please rename it the Pelican Brief with a pic of Julia?

[BeachBlueDevil]

I mean... how do you know this? He used to play for the Clippers. It's not that crazy to see (ringless in college and the pros) JJ chase a championship with LeBron in LA

What's saying he can't win with the 76ers? We saw a Raptors team with less talent (but the right pieces) win a title. The 6ers having Embiid and Simmons are a great start to a title. If Simmons can develop a jumper, he'd be pretty close to one of the most dominant players in the game. Embiid, while I'm not a fan of him, you can't deny his talent and if they can keep Butler and Harris, they have to be a favorite to win the east. Even if they keep just one, they still have to be a favorite.

[cato]

What's saying he can't win with the 76ers? We saw a Raptors team with less talent (but the right pieces) win a title. The 6ers having Embiid and Simmons are a great start to a title. If Simmons can develop a jumper, he'd be pretty close to one of the most dominant players in the game. Embiid, while I'm not a fan of him, you can't deny his talent and if they can keep Butler and Harris, they have to be a favorite to win the east. Even if they keep just one, they still have to be a favorite.

How do the Raptors have less talent? Kawhi is the best player out of the bunch, and that goes a long way in the NBA. Particularly when you have the right pieces to surround him.

[Bluedog]

What's saying he can't win with the 76ers? We saw a Raptors team with less talent (but the right pieces) win a title. The 6ers having Embiid and Simmons are a great start to a title. If Simmons can develop a jumper, he'd be pretty close to one of the most dominant players in the game. Embiid, while I'm not a fan of him, you can't deny his talent and if they can keep Butler and Harris, they have to be a favorite to win the east. Even if they keep just one, they still have to be a favorite.

I agree. Heck, they went to game 7 with the Raptors and Kawhi had a ridiculously lucky (but good) shot to win it at the buzzer (albeit it would have gone to OT had it not gone in). The 76ers are a good spot to contend for a title. I would imagine that they want to keep JJ but don't know their cap space/financial situation to sign him. I recall JJ saying on a podcast that Colangelo told JJ they were overpaying for him for the one year ($20M) because they couldn't commit to a multi-year thing, so not sure if/how that's changed.

[budwom]

His salary this year was roughly $12 million....for what he does, that's a relative bargain these days.

[Edouble]

What's saying he can't win with the 76ers? We saw a Raptors team with less talent (but the right pieces) win a title. The 6ers having Embiid and Simmons are a great start to a title. If Simmons can develop a jumper, he'd be pretty close to one of the most dominant players in the game. Embiid, while I'm not a fan of him, you can't deny his talent and if they can keep Butler and Harris, they have to be a favorite to win the east. Even if they keep just one, they still have to be a favorite.

Who's saying he can't win with the 76ers?

I don't know. Not me. I'm saying it's silly to say he will definitely be on the Knicks, Nets, or 76ers next year.

[JetpackJesus]

While I think JJ would be perfect in LA (Pelicans to some extent, they could use a veteran for all the young guys), he's not leaving the east coast. He either ends up with Brooklyn, the Knicks or the 76ers for less money than last year. As budwom pointed out, he has strong ties to Brooklyn and I remember listening to his podcast and hearing that he also purchased a home in Brooklyn.
JJ said he almost signed with the Pacers last offseason (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2788085-jj-redick-says-he-nearly-signed-contract-with-pacers-over-76ers). The 76ers changed their offer at the last minute, so he came back. I don't think we can say JJ definitely won't leave the east coast.

I would love if he went to NOLA. It would certainly seal the deal on the Pelicans becoming my favorite NBA team, which is probably going to be the case anyway come Friday. I mean, JJ actually got me to cheer for a Philadelphia sports team that wasn't playing against the Patriots. That is no small feat.

[rocketeli]

Just wanted to point out that this happened:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27091706/sources-pelicans-land-redick-2-years-265m

[Native]

Just wanted to point out that this happened:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27091706/sources-pelicans-land-redick-2-years-265m

So, uh, any word on lottery numbers?

[Dr. Rosenrosen]

So, uh, any word on lottery numbers?
And some stock picks...

[johnb]

Just wanted to point out that this happened:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27091706/sources-pelicans-land-redick-2-years-265m

Go Pelicans!!

[kAzE]

I believe a lot people around these parts, including myself, are now Pelicans fans.

Zion, JJ, Brandon Ingram, Jahlil Okafor, and Frank Jackson . . . that's a lot of Dukies.

[Bay Area Duke Fan]

I believe a lot people around these parts, including myself, are now Pelicans fans.

Zion, JJ, Brandon Ingram, Jahlil Okafor, and Frank Jackson . . . that's a lot of Dukies.

Total of only eight seasons played at Duke by the five players.

[OldPhiKap]

Total of only eight seasons played at Duke by the five players.

Their GM played at Duke longer than all but JJ.

(And FTR JJ played 139 games, TL played 136).

[sagegrouse]

Their GM played at Duke longer than all but JJ.

And spread it over five seasons, skipping 1996 due to injury.

[bundabergdevil]

Total of only eight seasons played at Duke by the five players.

And 4 of those years are JJ so he gets half the beignets as far as I'm concerned.

[budwom]

I can't imagine why they wouldn't be a fun team to both play for and watch this year...some very solid talent, lots of youth, little pressure.

They won all of 33 games last year and finished tied for 13th in the West...can't get too much worse...

[rsvman]

Their GM played at Duke longer than all but JJ.

(And FTR JJ played 139 games, TL played 136).

Jackson really should've played two seasons at Duke.

[roywhite]

Their GM played at Duke longer than all but JJ.

(And FTR JJ played 139 games, TL played 136).


And spread it over five seasons, skipping 1996 due to injury.

Remind me, was Trajan actually on a basketball scholarship? I recall he was drafted for baseball (and signed?)

[Nugget]

Remind me, was Trajan actually on a basketball scholarship? I recall he was drafted for baseball (and signed?)

Trajan was on a basketball scholarship, but got to keep the $ he received for playing baseball.

The NCAA rules are, essentially, set up as a hierarchy of recognizing the prominence of the revenue v. non-revenue sports and also of the sports in which player x is/was a recruited athlete, to prevent schools from doing an end run around scholarship limits by putting great recruited wide receivers on track scholarships, great PGs on soccer scholarships, etc.

But, the NCAA has recognized it as not a violation of the amateurism rules for players who are good enough in sport x to take professional cash for it while still being able to compete in NCAA play in sport y (e.g., Trajan's situation or Kyler Murray signing with/playing for the Oakland As but then still being eligible to play QB for Oklahoma last year), whereas Katie Ledecky was not allowed to accept payment from the US Swimming association or paid endorsements for swimming while she was competing as a swimmer for Stanford.

[Truth&Justise]

Gotta be honest, I don't quite understand this move.

Yes, New Orleans lacked shooting, and JJ is one of the very best. But he's 35 now, way out of step with New Orleans' competitive window.

Is New Orleans currently a playoff team? Do they want to be? JJ is the kind of missing-piece veteran that can put a contender over the hump, but I don't know if it really moves the needle to have him help New Orleans win 35 games instead of 30. Why not just give all that playing time to Frank Jackson, who is now stuck behind Lonzo Ball and Jrue Holiday? Why the push for the playoffs in Year 1 of Zion...it will only make it harder to add co-stars via the draft.

As for JJ, I'm really surprised a contender didn't offer comparable money. This is likely his last two seasons of consistent, 20-ish minutes per game for a contender, and he can make a difference. Really surprised there wasn't a better offer--this feels like a bit of a wasted opportunity.

So I'm excited for five Blue Devils on the Pelicans...but it doesn't really make sense to me.

[clinresga]

Gotta be honest, I don't quite understand this move.

Yes, New Orleans lacked shooting, and JJ is one of the very best. But he's 35 now, way out of step with New Orleans' competitive window.

Is New Orleans currently a playoff team? Do they want to be? JJ is the kind of missing-piece veteran that can put a contender over the hump, but I don't know if it really moves the needle to have him help New Orleans win 35 games instead of 30. Why not just give all that playing time to Frank Jackson, who is now stuck behind Lonzo Ball and Jrue Holiday? Why the push for the playoffs in Year 1 of Zion...it will only make it harder to add co-stars via the draft.

As for JJ, I'm really surprised a contender didn't offer comparable money. This is likely his last two seasons of consistent, 20-ish minutes per game for a contender, and he can make a difference. Really surprised there wasn't a better offer--this feels like a bit of a wasted opportunity.

So I'm excited for five Blue Devils on the Pelicans...but it doesn't really make sense to me.


JJ? Locker room guy. One of the best. With Zion, BI, and Lonzo onbaord, a stabilizing veteran is a huge plus. No one has a better basketball work ethic and IQ than JJ. The shooting is a bonus as well. See this Pelicans check off free agency needs with JJ Redick (https://www.nola.com/sports/pelicans/article_7e6e13d0-9b8f-11e9-ad85-83c3b8b68c94.html) for a more detailed discussion, but for anyone who has followed JJ, seems like a no-brainer. He's been in the playoffs in all 13 seasons he's been in the league--nice to have that experience.

[MartyClark]

Trajan was on a basketball scholarship, but got to keep the $ he received for playing baseball.

The NCAA rules are, essentially, set up as a hierarchy of recognizing the prominence of the revenue v. non-revenue sports and also of the sports in which player x is/was a recruited athlete, to prevent schools from doing an end run around scholarship limits by putting great recruited wide receivers on track scholarships, great PGs on soccer scholarships, etc.

But, the NCAA has recognized it as not a violation of the amateurism rules for players who are good enough in sport x to take professional cash for it while still being able to compete in NCAA play in sport y (e.g., Trajan's situation or Kyler Murray signing with/playing for the Oakland As but then still being eligible to play QB for Oklahoma last year), whereas Katie Ledecky was not allowed to accept payment from the US Swimming association or paid endorsements for swimming while she was competing as a swimmer for Stanford.

Not to take this too far off track but I am reminded of the Jeremy Bloom situation. He was a really good wide receiver and punt returner at the University of Colorado. He was also a professional skier with considerable success. He was allowed to keep his earnings from winning ski competitions but could not accept ski endorsement money and, as I understand it, the skiers need that endorsement money to make it on the professional tour. He had to leave C.U. after two seasons to pursue the ski endorsements. He had a brief career with the Eagles - not an overwhelming NFL player but a great college player.

Further tangent - the movie "Mollie's Game" was about his sister.

[kAzE]

Gotta be honest, I don't quite understand this move.

Yes, New Orleans lacked shooting, and JJ is one of the very best. But he's 35 now, way out of step with New Orleans' competitive window.

Is New Orleans currently a playoff team? Do they want to be? JJ is the kind of missing-piece veteran that can put a contender over the hump, but I don't know if it really moves the needle to have him help New Orleans win 35 games instead of 30. Why not just give all that playing time to Frank Jackson, who is now stuck behind Lonzo Ball and Jrue Holiday? Why the push for the playoffs in Year 1 of Zion...it will only make it harder to add co-stars via the draft.

As for JJ, I'm really surprised a contender didn't offer comparable money. This is likely his last two seasons of consistent, 20-ish minutes per game for a contender, and he can make a difference. Really surprised there wasn't a better offer--this feels like a bit of a wasted opportunity.

So I'm excited for five Blue Devils on the Pelicans...but it doesn't really make sense to me.

I think you're underestimating how good this team is. 35 wins would be a disaster with the talent they have. This is a playoff team already. The western conference lost a good bit of talent. Everyone is saying that the East could actually be stronger for the first time in generations. The entire league is wide open this upcoming season (unless Kawhi does the unthinkable and signs with the Lakers).

Back to Pelicans, though. This is legitimately one of the deepest rosters in the entire league, quite literally 3 deep with rotation quality NBA players at every position:

PG: Lonzo Ball, Frank Jackson, Nickeil Alexander-Walker
SG: Jrue Holiday, JJ Redick, E’Twaun Moore
SF: Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart, Kenrich Williams
PF: Zion Williamson, Davis Bertans, Christian Wood
C: Derrick Favors, Jahlil Okafor, Jaxson Hayes

With the one caveat being Brandon Ingram's health, that team should win between 42 and 50 games. It should definitely be one of the best defensive teams in the league. Ball/Holiday is quite likely the best defensive backcourt in the NBA. Zion, Ingram, Hart, Moore, and Favors are all considered plus defenders. I would 100% bet on them making the playoffs and possibly getting to the 2nd round.

JJ is a very key piece for this team as the key floor spacer. This is going to be one of the most heavily followed teams in the league next year, and as a future media guy, I think JJ did really well for himself. It's a great fit on both sides. It's not a title contender, but he's getting paid well to be a key role player on a playoff team.

[sagegrouse]

Remind me, was Trajan actually on a basketball scholarship? I recall he was drafted for baseball (and signed?)

My answer is a little different from Nugget's. I believe his Duke tuition, fees, etc. were paid by the Chargers. He also received their munificent minor league pay of a few bucks a month during season. I can't remember if the Chargers deal started day one, but it may have, since they first discovered Trajan throwing with his dad while visiting Duke in HS.

[sagegrouse]

Gotta be honest, I don't quite understand this move.

Yes, New Orleans lacked shooting, and JJ is one of the very best. But he's 35 now, way out of step with New Orleans' competitive window.

Is New Orleans currently a playoff team? Do they want to be? JJ is the kind of missing-piece veteran that can put a contender over the hump, but I don't know if it really moves the needle to have him help New Orleans win 35 games instead of 30. Why not just give all that playing time to Frank Jackson, who is now stuck behind Lonzo Ball and Jrue Holiday? Why the push for the playoffs in Year 1 of Zion...it will only make it harder to add co-stars via the draft.

As for JJ, I'm really surprised a contender didn't offer comparable money. This is likely his last two seasons of consistent, 20-ish minutes per game for a contender, and he can make a difference. Really surprised there wasn't a better offer--this feels like a bit of a wasted opportunity.

So I'm excited for five Blue Devils on the Pelicans...but it doesn't really make sense to me.

There are three reasons for the Pels to sign JJ, IMHO (where the H was waylaid along Bourbon Street in 1981):

1. His shooting.

2. His team defense.

3. His work ethic, which is reportedly astounding and sends a strong message of professionalism to younger players.

For a young team, #3 is a big deal.

Kindly,
Sage Grouse
'By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if one or more of the Duke players are traded before opening day'

[Truth&Justise]

I think you're underestimating how good this team is. 35 wins would be a disaster with the talent they have. This is a playoff team already. The western conference lost a good bit of talent. Everyone is saying that the East could actually be stronger for the first time in generations. The entire league is wide open this upcoming season (unless Kawhi does the unthinkable and signs with the Lakers).

Back to Pelicans, though. This is legitimately one of the deepest rosters in the entire league, quite literally 3 deep with rotation quality NBA players at every position:

PG: Lonzo Ball, Frank Jackson, Nickeil Alexander-Walker
SG: Jrue Holiday, JJ Redick, E’Twaun Moore
SF: Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart, Kenrich Williams
PF: Zion Williamson, Davis Bertans, Christian Wood
C: Derrick Favors, Jaxson Hayes, Jahlil Okafor

With the one caveat being Brandon Ingram's health, that team should win between 42 and 50 games. It should definitely be one of the best defensive teams in the league. Ball/Holiday is quite likely the best defensive backcourt in the NBA. Zion, Ingram, Hart, Moore, and Favors are all considered plus defenders. I would 100% bet on them making the playoffs and possibly getting to the 2nd round.

JJ is a very key piece for this team as the key floor spacer. This is going to be one of the most heavily followed teams in the league next year, and as a future media guy, I think JJ did really well for himself. It's a great fits on both sides. It's not a title contender, but he's getting paid well to be a key role player on a playoff team.

I love your enthusiasm for the Pelicans's roster, but I just don't see it. Their best player, right now, is Jrue Holiday. He's a fine player. Maybe Zion will prove to be better than him as a rookie, but most guys take time, and most also hit a wall playing an 82-game season. So from a talent-level, I think they're a step behind.

Then let's look at fit. The starting lineup lacks shooting, which remains the single most important factor for an offense in 2019. JJ obviously helps, but you can't play him and Jrue and Lonzo together. And I don't agree with your assessment that this is one of the deepest teams--while Jackson, Hart and Redick are good bench players, Okafor hasn't proven he can contribute consistently, and the rest are either nonfactors (Christian Wood, Kenrich Williams, Darris Betrans) or rookies not expected to contribute from day 1 (Hayes, Alexander-Walker).

Finally, there's the competition. I don't see them above the Nuggets, Blazers, Lakers, Rockets, Jazz, Warriors, Thunder or Spurs. That's eight playoff teams. Not to mention other teams competing for those final playoff spots like the Clippers (still in the hunt for Kawhi), Kings and Mavericks, all of whom have more established NBA talent.

So those are the reasons I don't believe the current Pelicans are a playoff team.

But let's take a step back from there. Should they be trying to be a playoff team? This will probably be the only year that expectations are low. If New Orleans didn't make the playoffs with Anthony Davis, then no one is expecting them to in Year 1 of Zion. That's a good thing! Keep the pressure low, play the rookies a lot, and go back to the lottery (where you won't be for a while) to try to find Zion a true co-star. Signing Redick marginally interferes with that plan because it takes playing time away from Frank Jackson and Nickeil Alexander-Walker. It also worsens the Pelican's lottery odds and makes it tempting for management to sacrifice something of actual long-term value at the trade deadline.

The last part of this is personal: I was thrilled to see JJ improbably building steam in the late stages of his career, and this just seems like a waste to me. Would have loved to see him back in the playoffs, trying to help a true contender win a title.

[OldPhiKap]

And 4 of those years are JJ so he gets half the beignets as far as I'm concerned.

If you're willing to take the beignets away from Zion, you're a brave man.

[OldPhiKap]

My answer is a little different from Nugget's. I believe his Duke tuition, fees, etc. were paid by the Chargers. He also received their munificent minor league pay of a few bucks a month during season. I can't remember if the Chargers deal started day one, but it may have, since they first discovered Trajan throwing with his dad while visiting Duke in HS.

I think you mean the Padres.

[JetpackJesus]

Just wanted to point out that this happened:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27091706/sources-pelicans-land-redick-2-years-265m
Good call!


JJ said he almost signed with the Pacers last offseason (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2788085-jj-redick-says-he-nearly-signed-contract-with-pacers-over-76ers). The 76ers changed their offer at the last minute, so he came back. I don't think we can say JJ definitely won't leave the east coast.

I would love if he went to NOLA. It would certainly seal the deal on the Pelicans becoming my favorite NBA team, which is probably going to be the case anyway come Friday. I mean, JJ actually got me to cheer for a Philadelphia sports team that wasn't playing against the Patriots. That is no small feat.
The bold also happened. And this deal comes with the added bonus of me not having to like a Philly team anymore!

[MChambers]

My answer is a little different from Nugget's. I believe his Duke tuition, fees, etc. were paid by the Chargers. He also received their munificent minor league pay of a few bucks a month during season. I can't remember if the Chargers deal started day one, but it may have, since they first discovered Trajan throwing with his dad while visiting Duke in HS.

Never knew Trajan played football!

[camion]

Never knew Trajan played football!

How do you think he got his nickname The Trajan Horse? :)

[Matches]

The Pelicans need a culture change. Last season was very toxic for their culture, and with a host of new players they have a chance to press the reset button. JJ will help tremendously with that. He can also shoot a little bit. I agree it will be hard to play him at the same time as Holiday and Ball but good NBA rotations need 9-10 guys.

[Edouble]

Just wanted to point out that this happened:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27091706/sources-pelicans-land-redick-2-years-265m

You deserve sporks from everybody. Loving this thread right now.


Gotta be honest, I don't quite understand this move.

Yes, New Orleans lacked shooting, and JJ is one of the very best. But he's 35 now, way out of step with New Orleans' competitive window.

Is New Orleans currently a playoff team? Do they want to be? JJ is the kind of missing-piece veteran that can put a contender over the hump, but I don't know if it really moves the needle to have him help New Orleans win 35 games instead of 30. Why not just give all that playing time to Frank Jackson, who is now stuck behind Lonzo Ball and Jrue Holiday? Why the push for the playoffs in Year 1 of Zion...it will only make it harder to add co-stars via the draft.

As for JJ, I'm really surprised a contender didn't offer comparable money. This is likely his last two seasons of consistent, 20-ish minutes per game for a contender, and he can make a difference. Really surprised there wasn't a better offer--this feels like a bit of a wasted opportunity.

So I'm excited for five Blue Devils on the Pelicans...but it doesn't really make sense to me.

Agree. NOLA will be hard pressed to make the playoffs. I think getting JJ is a win for their team, but I don't understand why JJ would go to the Pels at this point in his career. Makes no sense if he wants a ring.

[kAzE]

I love your enthusiasm for the Pelicans's roster, but I just don't see it. Their best player, right now, is Jrue Holiday. He's a fine player. Maybe Zion will prove to be better than him as a rookie, but most guys take time, and most also hit a wall playing an 82-game season. So from a talent-level, I think they're a step behind.

Then let's look at fit. The starting lineup lacks shooting, which remains the single most important factor for an offense in 2019. JJ obviously helps, but you can't play him and Jrue and Lonzo together. And I don't agree with your assessment that this is one of the deepest teams--while Jackson, Hart and Redick are good bench players, Okafor hasn't proven he can contribute consistently, and the rest are either nonfactors (Christian Wood, Kenrich Williams, Darris Betrans) or rookies not expected to contribute from day 1 (Hayes, Alexander-Walker).

Finally, there's the competition. I don't see them above the Nuggets, Blazers, Lakers, Rockets, Jazz, Warriors, Thunder or Spurs. That's eight playoff teams. Not to mention other teams competing for those final playoff spots like the Clippers (still in the hunt for Kawhi), Kings and Mavericks, all of whom have more established NBA talent.

So those are the reasons I don't believe the current Pelicans are a playoff team.

But let's take a step back from there. Should they be trying to be a playoff team? This will probably be the only year that expectations are low. If New Orleans didn't make the playoffs with Anthony Davis, then no one is expecting them to in Year 1 of Zion. That's a good thing! Keep the pressure low, play the rookies a lot, and go back to the lottery (where you won't be for a while) to try to find Zion a true co-star. Signing Redick marginally interferes with that plan because it takes playing time away from Frank Jackson and Nickeil Alexander-Walker. It also worsens the Pelican's lottery odds and makes it tempting for management to sacrifice something of actual long-term value at the trade deadline.

The last part of this is personal: I was thrilled to see JJ improbably building steam in the late stages of his career, and this just seems like a waste to me. Would have loved to see him back in the playoffs, trying to help a true contender win a title.

Well, for one thing, anything that happened prior to this year with Anthony Davis is irrelevant, because the entire roster is different. I think Ingram is going to have the best year of his career if he's healthy, and when he's right, he's capable of putting big numbers. Zion, Favors, Holiday, and Ball are all starting caliber NBA players who are each not just above average, but outstanding, defensively. Holiday/Zion/Ingram is a playoff worthy big 3 in my opinion.

Okafor was actually pretty good last year. His per 36 min numbers were 19 points and 11 rebounds. He's still not good on defense, but he's definitely at the very least a back up big man capable of producing points. On a team this loaded defensively, he's actually a nice fit as a guy who can really score off the bench.

The guys who you mentioned as non-factors: Kenrich Williams, Christian Wood, and Davis Bertans. Are you sure about that? Bertans is a 40% career 3 point shooter, including 43% last year, when he played 22 minutes a game for a playoff team (the Spurs), starting 12 games. He's literally the most accurate shooting stretch 4 in the league. Christian Wood was a late season acquisition from the Bucks last season, but played 8 games with the Pelicans, averaging 23 minutes per game, 17 points, and 8 rebounds. Williams was a rookie who started 29 games for the Pelicans last season, and was a big, multi-positional defensive wing capable of guarding up to 3 positions, and showing some good flashes of upside. These guys are not non factors. This team won 33 NBA games last year, a good chunk of them without Anthony Davis, relying on guys like Kenrich Williams.

From a JJ perspective, would you rather be making $13 million a year on a young up and coming team or the league minimum on a title contender?

I think JJ solves the shooting problem. Between JJ, Bertans, and E'Twaun Moore, who is an excellent shooter (43% the past 2 seasons), that's 3 very dangerous shooters. Ingram had a down year shooting from 3 this past season (33%), but he shot 39% two years ago. If he's able to get that up to 35%, he's a guy who can stretch the floor, as well. Holiday isn't a sniper, but he's still a career 36% 3 point shooter. Is it the best shooting team in the league? No, but there's enough shooting on this roster to decently space the floor.

[NSDukeFan]

You deserve sporks from everybody. Loving this thread right now.



Agree. NOLA will be hard pressed to make the playoffs. I think getting JJ is a win for their team, but I don't understand why JJ would go to the Pels at this point in his career. Makes no sense if he wants a ring.

Maybe JJ can help lay a foundation of professionalism for the young players so that Duke, I mean New Orleans, can eventually compete for a championship.

[DukeTrinity11]

I love your enthusiasm for the Pelicans's roster, but I just don't see it. Their best player, right now, is Jrue Holiday. He's a fine player. Maybe Zion will prove to be better than him as a rookie, but most guys take time, and most also hit a wall playing an 82-game season. So from a talent-level, I think they're a step behind.

Then let's look at fit. The starting lineup lacks shooting, which remains the single most important factor for an offense in 2019. JJ obviously helps, but you can't play him and Jrue and Lonzo together. And I don't agree with your assessment that this is one of the deepest teams--while Jackson, Hart and Redick are good bench players, Okafor hasn't proven he can contribute consistently, and the rest are either nonfactors (Christian Wood, Kenrich Williams, Darris Betrans) or rookies not expected to contribute from day 1 (Hayes, Alexander-Walker).

Finally, there's the competition. I don't see them above the Nuggets, Blazers, Lakers, Rockets, Jazz, Warriors, Thunder or Spurs. That's eight playoff teams. Not to mention other teams competing for those final playoff spots like the Clippers (still in the hunt for Kawhi), Kings and Mavericks, all of whom have more established NBA talent.

So those are the reasons I don't believe the current Pelicans are a playoff team.

But let's take a step back from there. Should they be trying to be a playoff team? This will probably be the only year that expectations are low. If New Orleans didn't make the playoffs with Anthony Davis, then no one is expecting them to in Year 1 of Zion. That's a good thing! Keep the pressure low, play the rookies a lot, and go back to the lottery (where you won't be for a while) to try to find Zion a true co-star. Signing Redick marginally interferes with that plan because it takes playing time away from Frank Jackson and Nickeil Alexander-Walker. It also worsens the Pelican's lottery odds and makes it tempting for management to sacrifice something of actual long-term value at the trade deadline.

The last part of this is personal: I was thrilled to see JJ improbably building steam in the late stages of his career, and this just seems like a waste to me. Would have loved to see him back in the playoffs, trying to help a true contender win a title.
The Pelicans will be a better team than the Spurs next year.

I'd take the Pelicans starting 5 over the Spurs starting 5.

Lonzo Ball > Dejounte Murray
Jrue Holiday > Derrick White
Brandon Ingram < DeRozan
Zion < Aldridge
Favors > Poetl

Give me a bench of JJ Redick, Josh Hart, E'Twaun Moore and Jahlil Okafor over the Spurs' bench of Forbes, Mills, Bellinelli and Bertans.

[NSDukeFan]

The Pelicans will be a better team than the Spurs next year.

I'd take Lonzo over Dejounte Murray, Holiday over DeRozan, Ingram over Derrick White and Favors over Poetl.

Lonzo Ball > Dejounte Murray
Jrue Holiday > Demar DeRozan
Brandon Ingram > Derrick White
Zion < Aldridge
Favors > Poetl

Give me a bench of JJ Redick, Josh Hart, E'Twaun Moore and Jahlil Okafor over the Spurs' bench of Forbes, Mills, Bellinelli and Bertans.

I’ll take Popovich over Gentry.

[CameronBornAndBred]

Back to Pelicans, though. This is legitimately one of the deepest rosters in the entire league, quite literally 3 deep with rotation quality NBA players at every position:

PG: Lonzo Ball, Frank Jackson, Nickeil Alexander-Walker
SG: Jrue Holiday, JJ Redick, E’Twaun Moore
SF: Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart, Kenrich Williams
PF: Zion Williamson, Davis Bertans, Christian Wood
C: Derrick Favors, Jahlil Okafor, Jaxson Hayes


If even for only 15 seconds, it would be fun to see that lineup on the court at the same time. Has it ever happened? Has an NBA team ever had five on the court from the same school, much less the same coach?

[Truth&Justise]

The guys who you mentioned as non-factors: Kenrich Williams, Christian Wood, and Davis Bertans. Are you sure about that? Bertans is a 40% career 3 point shooter, including 43% last year, when he played 22 minutes a game for a playoff team (the Spurs), starting 12 games. He's literally the most accurate shooting stretch 4 in the league.

I think you're mixing up Davis Bertans, the 6'10 PF who is still on the Spurs, with his older brother Dairis Bertans, a 6'4" guard who plays for the Pelicans. Fun fact: they were born in the same city, but in different countries.

Either way, I'm a little less bullish than you on Lonzo's effectiveness and on the impact that Ingram, Zion, and Jahlil will have this year (though I'd be happy to be wrong about the Duke guys, would love if they're all great!). I'm also more impressed with the strengths of the other teams out West. The Pelicans have a great foundation, and they're building well for the future, I just don't think they're a playoff team in 2020.

But it's a matter of opinion, so we'll just have to wait and see.

[kAzE]

I think you're mixing up Davis Bertans, the 6'10 PF who is still on the Spurs, with his older brother Dairis Bertans, a 6'4" guard who plays for the Pelicans. Fun fact: they were born in the same city, but in different countries.

Either way, I'm a little less bullish than you on Lonzo's effectiveness and on the impact that Ingram, Zion, and Jahlil will have this year (though I'd be happy to be wrong about the Duke guys, would love if they're all great!). I'm also more impressed with the strengths of the other teams out West. The Pelicans have a great foundation, and they're building well for the future, I just don't think they're a playoff team in 2020.

But it's a matter of opinion, so we'll just have to wait and see.

Yep, you're totally right. Damn parents naming their kids almost the same thing.

Still, if you're feeling strong enough about it, I'd be willing to wager a pie on the Pelicans making the playoffs. They will most likely lose in the first round to one of the top 3 seeds, but it will be valuable playoffs reps for Zion.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Either way, I'm a little less bullish than you on Lonzo's effectiveness and on the impact that Ingram, Zion, and Jahlil will have this year (though I'd be happy to be wrong about the Duke guys, would love if they're all great!). I'm also more impressed with the strengths of the other teams out West. The Pelicans have a great foundation, and they're building well for the future, I just don't think they're a playoff team in 2020.

But it's a matter of opinion, so we'll just have to wait and see.

I think Zion will take as long to settle into the pro game as he did the college game......which was what, 15 seconds?

[sagegrouse]

JJ obviously helps, but you can't play him and Jrue and Lonzo together. And I don't agree with your assessment that this is one of the deepest teams--while Jackson, Hart and Redick are good bench players, Okafor hasn't proven he can contribute consistently, and the rest are either nonfactors (Christian Wood, Kenrich Williams, Darris Betrans) or rookies not expected to contribute from day 1 (Hayes, Alexander-Walker).

The last part of this is personal: I was thrilled to see JJ improbably building steam in the late stages of his career, and this just seems like a waste to me. Would have loved to see him back in the playoffs, trying to help a true contender win a title.

Redick is a "good bench player?" You might have mentioned that, of the last 412 games he has played, JJ has started 398.

[DukeFanSince1990]

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[arnie]

Redick is a "good bench player?" You might have mentioned that, of the last 412 games he has played, JJ has started 398.

Yea Truth&Injustice stretching it a bit I think. Not only has he dissed Redick, if I recall Wilt, Kareem, LeBron were “Pretty good” NBA rookies. Assuming Zion will not be a strong 1st year player is quite pessimistic.

Anyway, I’ll be shocked if this team doesn’t make the playoffs.

[Truth&Justise]

Redick is a "good bench player?" You might have mentioned that, of the last 412 games he has played, JJ has started 398.


Yea Truth&Injustice stretching it a bit I think. Not only has he dissed Redick, if I recall Wilt, Kareem, LeBron were “Pretty good” NBA rookies. Assuming Zion will not be a strong 1st year player is quite pessimistic.

Anyway, I’ll be shocked if this team doesn’t make the playoffs.

Apologies for any confusion, certainly did not mean any disrespect to Jonathan Clay Redick. When I stated "while Jackson, Hart and Redick are good bench players," what I meant was that Jackson, Hart and Redick are the only players on the bench I would currently consider to be "good" or above. The rest of the bench looks below NBA-average to me.

Also, you mentioned LeBron--he was an excellent first year player, one of the very best ever...and he still didn't lead his team to the playoffs. There are no guarantees. Zion could have a fabulous season, but I'm firm in my belief that there are 8 other teams in the West that are more likely to make the playoffs--and that such an outcome would not be a bad long-term development for New Orleans.


Still, if you're feeling strong enough about it, I'd be willing to wager a pie on the Pelicans making the playoffs. They will most likely lose in the first round to one of the top 3 seeds, but it will be valuable playoffs reps for Zion.

I appreciate the offer, and I'm confident, but I don't know how I'd explain to my better half that I was receiving (or sending) a pie based off a bet I made on the internet with an anonymous stranger. Happy to check back in a year from now and acknowledge if you were right.

[Nugget]

My answer is a little different from Nugget's. I believe his Duke tuition, fees, etc. were paid by the Chargers. He also received their munificent minor league pay of a few bucks a month during season. I can't remember if the Chargers deal started day one, but it may have, since they first discovered Trajan throwing with his dad while visiting Duke in HS.

I stand corrected. Always better to do the research BEFORE shooting off my mouth. Sagegrouse is right -- it appears that the Padres did pay for Trajan's Duke expenses and he was never on a basketball scholarship.

[rhynelander]

JJ is awfully valuable to the Blue Dev... I mean Pelicans as analyzed above, but he also offers an additional sort of value. If you're a title contender that is "one piece away" and that piece happens to be a shooter, you'd probably gladly mortgage your future to make a trade before the deadline. Especially if you have a certain aging superstar running the show or an overly eager front office. Now I understand this is a bit of a reach, but since NO has the cap space to pay out JJ either season and it's a short, affordable deal, JJ could bless NO's younger players with his wisdom before netting them future picks and getting to go chase a championship.

[OZZIE4DUKE]

PG: Lonzo Ball, Frank Jackson, Nickeil Alexander-Walker
SG: Jrue Holiday, JJ Redick, E’Twaun Moore
SF: Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart, Kenrich Williams
PF: Zion Williamson, Davis Bertans, Christian Wood
C: Derrick Favors, Jahlil Okafor, Jaxson Hayes

If even for only 15 seconds, it would be fun to see that lineup on the court at the same time. Has it ever happened? Has an NBA team ever had five on the court from the same school, much less the same coach?
Duke could have had three Plumlee's (MP1, MP2 and MP3) on the court at one time, but never did during a regular season game because Marshall redshirted. Good thing, too, because MP3 was certainly more valuable to the team as a 5th year senior than he would have been as a true frosh.

[subzero02]

Duke could have had three Plumlee's (MP1, MP2 and MP3) on the court at one time, but never did during a regular season game because Marshall redshirted. Good thing, too, because MP3 was certainly more valuable to the team as a 5th year senior than he would have been as a true frosh.

Marshall Plumlee was also the least college ready McDonald's all American that I've ever seen. I remember watching video of a team practice from his redshirt year and he had no idea what he was doing. He was so uncoordinated that calling him Bambi on ice would've been giving him too much credit.

[brlftz]

I'm with Truth&Justise on this one, and we're not alone. Generally the buzz is that NO has a great future, and maybe even has an outside shot at the playoffs next year. Mayyyyybe. If they develop ahead of schedule and Zion turns out to be as insanely good as people hope. But it would be very surprising if they actually made the playoffs next year, and that probably shouldn't even be the goal. Let guys develop, get some more talent. Trust the process, but hope it doesn't take as long as it did for Philly.

[Hancock 4 Duke]

I think it's more likely than not that the Pelicans make the playoffs. Holiday, Zion, Redick, Ingram, Lonzo, Favors is a great core and the West will be significantly weaker this year with the Lakers being potential frontrunners. If Zion gets his 3pt shot down, his playing alongside Redick and Holiday would be detrimental for any team that wants to keep an inside presence on defense...and Zion/Holiday/Redick (sometimes) are also great slashers. I'd expect to see a lot of PnR with Zion and JJ/Holiday with Ingram in the corner. If I were the Pelicans coach, I'd be ecstatic with the amount of potential and versatility the current roster would have in a halfcourt offense.

[kAzE]

I think it's more likely than not that the Pelicans make the playoffs. Holiday, Zion, Redick, Ingram, Lonzo, Favors is a great core and the West will be significantly weaker this year with the Lakers being potential frontrunners. If Zion gets his 3pt shot down, his playing alongside Redick and Holiday would be detrimental for any team that wants to keep an inside presence on defense...and Zion/Holiday/Redick (sometimes) are also great slashers. I'd expect to see a lot of PnR with Zion and JJ/Holiday with Ingram in the corner. If I were the Pelicans coach, I'd be ecstatic with the amount of potential and versatility the current roster would have in a halfcourt offense.

I actually think Brandon Ingram is going to be the first option offensively. Before LeBron came to LA, Ingram played a significant amount of point guard for the Lakers, and had some of his best games as a pro during that time. He's a very good scorer and decision maker off the dribble. For their halfcourt offense, I would want the gameplan to involve a heavy dose of an Ingram/Zion pick and roll with JJ running around screens and spacing the floor.

[Green Wave Dukie]

There are three reasons for the Pels to sign JJ, IMHO (where the H was waylaid along Bourbon Street in 1981):

1. His shooting.

2. His team defense.

3. His work ethic, which is reportedly astounding and sends a strong message of professionalism to younger players.

For a young team, #3 is a big deal.

Kindly,
Sage Grouse
'By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if one or more of the Duke players are traded before opening day'


Sage - wish you had told me. I showed up to New Orleans as a freshman in the fall of 1982. I meandered down to Bourbon Street a few times in my 4 years there. I would have gladly looked for it for you.

[yancem]

JJ is awfully valuable to the Blue Dev... I mean Pelicans as analyzed above, but he also offers an additional sort of value. If you're a title contender that is "one piece away" and that piece happens to be a shooter, you'd probably gladly mortgage your future to make a trade before the deadline. Especially if you have a certain aging superstar running the show or an overly eager front office. Now I understand this is a bit of a reach, but since NO has the cap space to pay out JJ either season and it's a short, affordable deal, JJ could bless NO's younger players with his wisdom before netting them future picks and getting to go chase a championship.

That's actually a really good point. I'm sceptical that JJ had this in mind when signing his contract but if he did, it could end up being the craftiest decision in NBA history.

[yancem]

Duke could have had three Plumlee's (MP1, MP2 and MP3) on the court at one time, but never did during a regular season game because Marshall redshirted. Good thing, too, because MP3 was certainly more valuable to the team as a 5th year senior than he would have been as a true frosh.

And now I'm thinking about Baker 🤪

[arnie]

I actually think Brandon Ingram is going to be the first option offensively. Before LeBron came to LA, Ingram played a significant amount of point guard for the Lakers, and had some of his best games as a pro during that time. He's a very good scorer and decision maker off the dribble. For their halfcourt offense, I would want the gameplan to involve a heavy dose of an Ingram/Zion pick and roll with JJ running around screens and spacing the floor.

Quite the variance of NO blue devils projections for this coming year. Up thread someone said even LeBron didn’t make playoffs his 1st year. But he didn’t have nearly the returning help Zion will have. I think Zion is a star out of the gate and with Ingram and other near-stars; I think this team wins at least 45 games. Should be enough in the West.

[kAzE]

In addition to adding Redick and Favors, David Griffin signed another free agent, one that probably most people aren't familiar with: Nicolo Melli, who played the last 2 seasons with Fenerbahce, Turkish club in the Euroleague. He is a 28 year old versatile combo forward who is a 39% 3 point shooter, and was the top scorer in the Euroleague finals last year. This is exactly the type of guy this roster needed. A big forward who can play with Zion and space the floor.

I'm loving this roster. Redick, Favors, and Melli are all veteran players who complement Zion perfectly.

[Phredd3]

In addition to adding Redick and Favors, David Griffin signed another free agent, one that probably most people aren't familiar with: Nicolo Melli, who played the last 2 seasons with Fenerbahce, Turkish club in the Euroleague. He is a 28 year old versatile combo forward who is a 39% 3 point shooter, and was the top scorer in the Euroleague finals last year.

Was wondering who that was. Thanks for the brief. Saved me a trip to Google.

[kAzE]

Was wondering who that was. Thanks for the brief. Saved me a trip to Google.

I actually undersold this guy’s shooting. He shot a combined 42.1% from 3 the past 4 seasons. (https://www.nola.com/sports/pelicans/article_f1f717c9-8b8d-5972-904b-16388bedabda.html) He’s 6’9”, 235 and has a wet jumper... how did nobody else try to sign this guy?

David Griffin is killing it.

[OldPhiKap]

Sage - wish you had told me. I showed up to New Orleans as a freshman in the fall of 1982. I meandered down to Bourbon Street a few times in my 4 years there. I would have gladly looked for it for you.

If only there was a streetcar that ran between Tulane/Audubon Zoo and the French Quarter. I fervently wished and hoped that there would be one.

[sagegrouse]

If only there was a streetcar that ran between Tulane/Audubon Zoo and the French Quarter. I fervently wished and hoped that there would be one.

Somehow the name Stella keeps running through my head.

[OldPhiKap]

Somehow the name Stella keeps running through my head.

"I always depend upon the kindness of strangers."

Great line.

[devildeac]

Somehow the name Stella keeps running through my head.

Tripping William keeps mentioning that name, too. ;)

[CameronBlue]

So from the article linked on the Front Page:

"Furthermore, did you know Redick has never missed the playoffs?

Seriously, since he came into the league with the Orlando Magic he’s been playing postseason basketball. New Orleans is a playoff contender, Redick’s been there every year. He knows exactly what it takes to get there and will push this young group to that level."

Sorry to spoil the trivia question that I bet would have stumped most folks here but that is a "shocker".

[brevity]

So from the article linked on the Front Page:

"Furthermore, did you know Redick has never missed the playoffs?

Seriously, since he came into the league with the Orlando Magic he’s been playing postseason basketball. New Orleans is a playoff contender, Redick’s been there every year. He knows exactly what it takes to get there and will push this young group to that level."

Sorry to spoil the trivia question that I bet would have stumped most folks here but that is a "shocker".

It's a nice bit of trivia, but those of us who have followed the thread were already spoiled by post #39:


...but for anyone who has followed JJ, seems like a no-brainer. He's been in the playoffs in all 13 seasons he's been in the league--nice to have that experience.

[OldPhiKap]

"shocker".

I see what you did there. And I approve.