MOTM: Duke v Syracuse (Mar 14, 2019 - ACC Quarters)

[JBDuke]

Who was Duke's Man of the Match in their ACC Tourney quarterfinal win over Syracuse tonight?

[flyingdutchdevil]

Sigh...

[Native]

If you shoot 100% from the field, you should get 100% of the vote. ;)

[fisheyes]

We need a poll?
Really?
O. M.G. Zion!

[curtis325]

ZION!!


Goldwire had some nice contributions.

[El_Diablo]

If you shoot 100% from the field, you should get 100% of the vote. ;)

Vote for Goldwire then, got it.

[CameronBornAndBred]

Aside from free throws, literally perfect. Welcome back.

[weezie]

Young Z sure does bring the sparkle.

[Hartford Dukie]

Of course, voted for Zion, but Goldwire was crucial..huge 3 point play when the lead was 3..and great d. Compares to his minutes in the Louisville game.

[53n206]

When last 100% vote?

[CDu]

When last 100% vote?

Never has happened.

[JetpackJesus]

When last 100% vote?
I believe never. Expect that to inexplicably continue today.

[El_Diablo]

Never has happened.

Rivers at UNC was unanimous.

[Acymetric]

There was no option for Zion's Shoes so I had to settle for coming for Zion.

[dukelifer]

Zion was the best but I voted for Goldwire- because he was perfect and provided a huge spark.

[duke4ever19]

Zion was the best but I voted for Goldwire- because he was perfect and provided a huge spark.

You're going straight to bed without supper, mister.

[jipops]

Let me think on this for a little while.

[Acymetric]

Rivers at UNC was unanimous.

Only because the poll creator only listed Rivers as an option. It has never happened in a poll where all active players were listed. I believe there was some heated debate about the poll options in that MOTM actually.

[ncexnyc]

As if there was any doubt, ZION.

[CameronBornAndBred]

Zion was the best but I voted for Goldwire- because he was perfect and provided a huge spark.
"Goldwire was great, but I voted for Zion because he was the best and he was perfect and provided a huge spark. (Spark started with the first steal and dunk in the first minute)"

[Acymetric]

Zion was the best but I voted for Goldwire- because he was perfect and provided a huge spark.

You have been voted off the island.

Kidding, glad to have you around but you'll catch some deserved heat for that vote.

[dukelifer]

You're going straight to bed without supper, mister.

Definitely going to bed. The game didn't turn until Goldwire made his steal, bucket and foul shot- it went from 3 points to 6 and Duke finally started to get stops. Zion was amazing but the game turned there.

[El_Diablo]

Only because the poll creator only listed Rivers as an option. It has never happened in a poll where all active players were listed. I believe there was some heated debate about the poll options in that MOTM actually.

There were two options, “Austin Rivers” and “Someone else (and you better have a good reason).” Anyone could have voted for someone else if he or she wanted to do so, but everyone picked Rivers. People undoubtedly complained about the atypical format because that is what people do here, but no one had the gall to vote for someone else. Rivers won 186-0.

[mattman91]

Dukelifer is an obvious Russian troll working for the Kremlin to undermine our democratic process:rolleyes:

[Acymetric]

There were two options, “Austin Rivers” and “Someone else (and you better have a good reason).” Anyone could have voted for someone else if he or she wanted to do so, but everyone picked Rivers. People undoubtedly complained about the atypical format because that is what people do here, but no one had the gall to vote for someone else. Rivers won 186-0.

If it had actually been a list of players I am sure someone would have picked someone else. The format of the poll means it doesn't count as a unanimous MOTM (or at least it has an asterisk). That's all I'm saying, Rivers was undoubtedly the MOTM that game.

[Utley]

I am embarrassed that I was worried it would take time to get back to the incredible level he was playing at

[OldPhiKap]

Definitely going to bed. The game didn't turn until Goldwire made his steal, bucket and foul shot- it went from 3 points to 6 and Duke finally started to get stops. Zion was amazing but the game turned there.

I voted for Zion, but defend dukelifer’s right to this opinion. Arguably the spark that got us separation in a pretty even game late into the second half.

[JetpackJesus]

I voted for Zion, but defend dukelifer’s right to this opinion. Arguably the spark that got us separation in a pretty even game late into the second half.
But without Zion there's no spark for Goldwire to give.

[CameronBornAndBred]

Think about this...because we will probably never see it again. (And as a hater of the OAD, I am in love with this.)

His first game back, Zion sets a Duke record, going 13 for 13 from the field, including his three pointer. I don't want to be the person this summer, next year, 5 years from now...looking back at this game and telling my friend "You should have been there, Jordan Goldwire was awesome." Forest for the trees.

[OldPhiKap]

But without Zion there's no spark for Goldwire to give.

I don’t disagree. But I support the right to disagree with us on what one considers to constitute the MOTM.

[DukeBlue666s]

Dukelifer does deserve his own opinion ...

... but you also said the game turned when JG came in. Isn’t this a vote for ‘Man of the Match’, not ‘Who Came In And Turned The Game Around’?

Looking at just MOTM, there’s no way it wasn’t Zion. Just Sayin.

[Acymetric]

Think about this...because we will probably never see it again. (And as a hater of the OAD, I am in love with this.)

His first game back, Zion sets a Duke record, going 13 for 13 from the field, including his three pointer. I don't want to be the person this summer, next year, 5 years from now...looking back at this game and telling my friend "You should have been there, Jordan Goldwire was awesome." Forest for the trees.

Apparently I'm not promiscuous enough with my sporks because I haven't been able to spork several deserving folks the last few days.

[BandAlum83]

Duh!

[TNTDevil]

Shout-out to whomever voted for Goldwire. That's normally my move.

But, tonight, Zion was...On. A. Mission.

Never seen anything like tonight.

In. Fifty. Two. Years.

Gawddamn.

[JBDuke]

Jordan was the Man of the Moment.

Zion was the Man of the Match.

[Acymetric]

Shout-out to whomever voted for Goldwire. That's normally my move.

But, tonight, Zion was...On. A. Mission.

Never seen anything like tonight.

In. Fifty. Two. Years.

Gawddamn.

Well. Maybe 27 years, 1992 had a guy with a pretty cool statline too.

[BandAlum83]

Shout-out to whomever voted for Goldwire. That's normally my move.

But, tonight, Zion was...On. A. Mission.

Never seen anything like tonight.

In. Fifty. Two. Years.

Gawddamn.

I guess you must have missed the 10/10 FG, 10/10 FT game another Dukie had a few years back ;) BTW, that player was also 1/1 on 3pt shots.

But I do get your point and definitely feel the sentiment as well.

[flyingdutchdevil]

Definitely going to bed. The game didn't turn until Goldwire made his steal, bucket and foul shot- it went from 3 points to 6 and Duke finally started to get stops. Zion was amazing but the game turned there.

This is why we can’t have nice things...

[wsb3]

Even I know the answer to this question...:)

[Spanarkel]

I voted for Goldwire just to remind some frequent posters on this site that a mere few weeks ago people were saying Goldwire was never going to be more than a practice player. His defense on Boeheim was impressive to say the least.

[jv001]

Voted for Zion because he was the MOTM. But I knew he would not get all the votes and I don't think any player ever will. If Zion didn't deserve it for his play last night, then no one will be able to grab all the votes. Welcome back young man, we surely missed you. GoDuke!

[Neals384]

Let's not get our panties in a twist just because Z didn't win unanymiusky. It will happen! Not this game. Soon. He will be unanimous MOTM. And MOTY. And MOTD. And MOTC. And MOTM. Probably not MOAT. Pretty tough to take that away from CL.

[flyingdutchdevil]

Let's not get our panties in a twist just because Z didn't win unanymiusky. It will happen! Not this game. Soon. He will be unanimous MOTM. And MOTY. And MOTD. And MOTC. And MOTM. Probably not MOAT. Pretty tough to take that away from CL.

Zion will never win unanimous MOTM. The dude was unstoppable this game. Unstoppable. He was a perfect 13 for 13. He grabbed 14 boards. He had 5 steals. And all this after coming back from injury.

Yeah - no player will ever unanimously win MOTM on DBR. Just not possible.

[elvis14]

Zion was clearly the MOTM. I see a few people mistakenly voted for Goldwire. This is a MOTM poll, not a Guy Who Came Off The Bench And Helped A Bit While Zion Dominated poll. I do give Goldwire GWCOTBAHABWZD of the match.

Can't we just ban the people who voted for a GWCOTBAHABWZD instead of MOTM? I mean, at least for a couple of weeks?

[SupaDave]

This has been the MOST awesome MOTM thread I've EVER read.

The fact that there is even a debate for Zion over Goldwire is in fact - INSANE. But I love it!!

For the record, Goldwire was featured in 3 of top 5 plays from last night.

Just remember that long ball catch by Goldwire and dunk by Barrett was thrown by Zion.

I mean, Zion made me jump out of my seat at least 13 times...

Reality - Goldwire keeps his confidence up and we are a different team.

[OZZIE4DUKE]

Zion, for every reason. Goldwire's inspired play offensively was nice to see, but I think Tre's second half scoring, both from the field and from the foul line, is what won us the game and prevented a collapse of biblical proportions. Once again, the 17 point lead debacle almost reared its ugly head again, but this time the 17 point lead came in the first half, so it didn't really apply. A 17 point lead early in the second half that doesn't get extended to 18 or more has been death to us several times, dating back to Kentucky in ~1998 (memory is a little foggy on the exact year - CRS disease strikes again). LGD GTHc! 9F!http://www.crazietalk.net/ourhouse/images/smilies/devil9f.gif http://www.crazietalk.net/ourhouse/images/smilies/devil9f.gif

[weezie]

...Just remember that long ball catch by Goldwire and dunk by Barrett was thrown by Zion...

Such stuff as dreams are made of...

[Clipsfan]

This poll just goes to show how ridiculous our expectations are for Zion. I love what Goldwire did but there is no doubt as to who carried the team.

[subzero02]

Only because the poll creator only listed Rivers as an option. It has never happened in a poll where all active players were listed. I believe there was some heated debate about the poll options in that MOTM actually.

This poll should have been similarly rigged...

[CameronBlue]

This poll should have been similarly rigged...

Apparently 3 people tried to penalize Zion for not visiting Wisconsin...maybe??

[CameronBlue]

This poll is about whether you can properly use a mouse-driven GUI I'm guessing, that or a test for possible muscular degenerative diseases. If you didn't vote for Zion you could be suffering from "alien hand" syndrome. See your doc asap.

[Troublemaker]

Folks, it's hard to get ~100 people (as of the time of this post) to all agree on anything. It's true not just on this topic and not just on DBR.

Plus, I've always thought that there are no set guidelines and everyone gets to define MOTM for themselves, which makes complaining about this stuff pointless.

[CameronBornAndBred]

Only because the poll creator only listed Rivers as an option. It has never happened in a poll where all active players were listed. I believe there was some heated debate about the poll options in that MOTM actually.

Tyler Zeller would have been a valid choice in that poll. He was perfect in shooting % for Duke, too. :rolleyes:

[jv001]

I would be more upset if posters were voting for Jordan as a look at me vote. I certainly don't think the 3 voters fall into that category. I presume they just have their own idea of what MOTM means. It's a democracy not a dictatorship. GoDuke!

[JNort]

Never has happened.

I thought Austin Rivers got it for the shot.


Nvm I now see that it's because we werent allowed to vote

[El_Diablo]

I thought Austin Rivers got it for the shot.


Nvm I now see that it's because we werent allowed to vote

Austin Rivers was indeed a unanimous winner. The format of that poll was different but still allowed people to vote for someone else; no one did so.

EDIT: If people wonder why I am continuing to beat this drum, it's because I want to (a) continue to recognize Rivers for his truly amazing performance that game (one that was so amazing it transcended the contrarian MOTM voting tendencies of various DBR members) and (b) push back on the false claim that "people were not allowed to vote for anyone else" in that poll.

[brevity]

Austin Rivers was indeed a unanimous winner. The format of that poll was different but still allowed people to vote for someone else; no one did so.

EDIT: If people wonder why I am continuing to beat this drum, it's because I want to (a) continue to recognize Rivers for his truly amazing performance that game (one that was so amazing it transcended the contrarian MOTM voting tendencies of various DBR members) and (b) push back on the false claim that "people were not allowed to vote for anyone else" in that poll.

Here is that legendary Austin Rivers MOTM thread and poll (https://forums.dukebasketballreport.com/forums/showthread.php?27483).

Look, that poll was rigged, for the noble purpose of suppressing nitpickery to maintain a state of euphoria. People had the option of voting "Somebody else (and you better have a good explanation)" -- and the first replies acknowledged that this could include Tyler Zeller -- but it was clearly discouraged by its very setup, so no one did.

[dukelifer]

Shout-out to whomever voted for Goldwire. That's normally my move.

But, tonight, Zion was...On. A. Mission.

Never seen anything like tonight.

In. Fifty. Two. Years.

Gawddamn.

I was the first- looks like a few more joined in so I would not be the only one ;) That said- I voted for him because I saw his play as turning the game around. I was unaware of the "never been unanimous" voting history. K mentioned him first I think- so he thought he was important to the win. Not exactly sure how it happened- but he had a major impact on the game and when has he ever been in a position to win MOTM- hence the vote. Duke was up 3 and Cuse was about to get the ball and he makes the steal and 1. A huge play- as was his assist to RJ for the dunk. As I noted Zion was absolutely amazing and certainly was the star last night but I believe Duke will not win it all unless the role guys step up on O. No one did yesterday but Goldwire. Goldwire hopefully inspired all his teammates.

[El_Diablo]

Here is that legendary Austin Rivers MOTM thread and poll (https://forums.dukebasketballreport.com/forums/showthread.php?27483).

Look, that poll was rigged, for the noble purpose of suppressing nitpickery to maintain a state of euphoria. People had the option of voting "Somebody else (and you better have a good explanation)" -- and the first replies acknowledged that this could include Tyler Zeller -- but it was clearly discouraged by its very setup, so no one did.

Oh, I agree that the format may have discouraged nitpickery and skullduggery, but the point is that it did not actually foreclose it. If anyone had the courage of conviction to be a contrarian and vote for an unworthy choice despite what they just witnessed, they could have done so. No one did that though. People can put an asterisk beside it if they want, but I am willing to give DBR the benefit of the doubt and say we were able to agree on something one time. :cool:

[CDu]

Oh, I agree that the format may have discouraged nitpickery and skullduggery, but the point is that it did not actually foreclose it. If anyone had the courage of conviction to be a contrarian and vote for an unworthy choice despite what they just witnessed, they could have done so. No one did that though. People can put an asterisk beside it if they want, but I am willing to give DBR the benefit of the doubt and say we were able to agree on something one time. :cool:

I suspect what instead happened was that those who might have considered voting otherwise were either heavily discouraged from doing so or just abstained altogether. I can't remember if I abstained or not out of principle (too lazy to go check). The format of that vote was decidedly rigged, and thus it is not surprising that they got the unanimity that they desired.