This Week in the ACC: 12/31-1/6

[pfrduke]

Conference play starts this week! For the first time in a while the ACC didn't play any conference games in December, so there will be 135 games all collected in the next 10 weeks. Let's tip it off!

Monday

[2]Virginia (-20) hosts [129]Marshall (1:00, ACCNE)
[97]Boston College (-11) hosts [203]Hartford (1:00, ACCNE)

Tuesday

[9]Virginia Tech (-13) hosts [68]Notre Dame (1:00, ESPNU)
[16]Florida State (-18) hosts [149]Winthrop (2:00, ACCNE)

Wednesday

[7]North Carolina (-17) hosts [102]Harvard (7:00, ESPN2)
[159]Wake Forest (-8) hosts [244]Cornell (7:00, ACCNE)
[94]Georgia Tech (-20) hosts [329]USC Upstate (7:30, ACCNE)

Thursday

[56]Miami (+2) hosts [22]NC State (7:00, ESPNU)

Friday is dark

Saturday

[9]Virginia Tech (-15) hosts [97]Boston College (12:00, ACCNE)
[83]Pittsburgh (+9) hosts [7]North Carolina (12:00, ACCNE)
[68]Notre Dame (+1) hosts [30]Syracuse (12:00, ACCNE)
[94]Georgia Tech (-9) hosts [159]Wake Forest (2:00, ACCNE)
[2]Virginia (-8) hosts [16]Florida State (3:00, ESPN2)
[1]Duke (-16) hosts [33]Clemson (8:00, ESPN)

Sunday

[42]Louisville (-5) hosts [56]Miami (6:00, ESPNU)

ACC Non-Conference: 143-40
ACC vs. Power 5: 29-26

America East: 4-0
American: 3-1
Atlantic-10: 11-2
Atlantic Sun: 9-0
Big XII: 1-3
Big East: 4-6
Big Sky: 1-0
Big South: 4-3
Big Ten: 11-8
Big West: 1-0
Colonial: 7-0
CUSA: 4-1
Horizon: 3-1
Ivy: 4-2
MAAC: 2-1
MAC: 4-1
MEAC: 12-0
MVC: 2-0
MWC: 3-0
Northeast: 9-0
Ohio Valley: 3-0
Pac-12: 3-2
Patriot: 5-0
SEC: 8-7
Southern: 9-0
Southland: 7-1
Sun Belt: 3-0
SWAC: 2-0
WAC: 3-0
WCC: 1-1

[BD80]

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Wednesday

[7]North Carolina (-17) hosts [102]Harvard (7:00, ESPN2)

...

For those that still believe the NCCA cares a whit about education, this match-up is the equivalent to the Nobel Committee sponsoring a contest between St. Teresa’s Sisters of Charity and San Quentin's Death Row all-stars.

[JasonEvans]

For those that still believe the NCCA cares a whit about education, this match-up is the equivalent to the Nobel Committee sponsoring a contest between St. Teresa’s Sisters of Charity and San Quentin's Death Row all-stars.

Hey, I hear Sister Mary Francis has a mean crossover.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ee/bb/79/eebb791c1d58668c681e0acb0d35088d.jpg

[PackMan97]

Looking forward to NC State having a shot at sole possession of first place for a few days...not looking forward to being in last place if we lose.

[OldPhiKap]

Looking forward to NC State having a shot at sole possession of first place for a few days...not looking forward to being in last place if we lose.

“If you’re not first, you’re last”

[Wahoo2000]

We (UVA) just hit the century mark vs Marshall. (On a 3 by a MANAGER, no less.... not a walkon, a MANAGER.)

If I didn't see it with my own eyes, I'd never believe it.

Anybody got an over/under on how many games until the next time UVA breaks 100? (darn, no crying-laughing emoji)

[BD80]

We (UVA) just hit the century mark vs Marshall. (On a 3 by a MANAGER, no less... not a walkon, a MANAGER.)

If I didn't see it with my own eyes, I'd never believe it.

Anybody got an over/under on how many games until the next time UVA breaks 100? (darn, no crying-laughing emoji)

I still think the football team will do it before the basketball teams does it again.

Maybe the soccer team too.

[sagegrouse]

Hartford defeated BC for the second time in three years -- 79-78 in OT.

[MChambers]

Hartford defeated BC for the second time in three years -- 79-78 in OT.

Bottom of the ACC is very weak this year. BC and Wake are below 100 in Pomeroy.

[moonpie23]

state looking good…

[robed deity]

So February 26th is looking more and more daunting...

[BD80]

Hey, I hear Sister Mary Francis has a mean crossover.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ee/bb/79/eebb791c1d58668c681e0acb0d35088d.jpg

But only from her right to left, a move she practices religiously ...

[devildeac]

But only from her right to left, a move she practices religiously ...

We'll have nun of that.

[Green Wave Dukie]

We'll have nun of that.

Not only can she drive to the hoop, she can shoot from Father out, too.

[Reddevil]

We'll have nun of that.

These puns are a bad habit.

[Green Wave Dukie]

These puns are a bad habit.

I confess, I actually like them.

[UrinalCake]

And the end of games, I’d trust her to throw a Hail Mary.

[devildeac]

And the end of games, I’d trust her to throw a Hail Mary.

Hail yeah!!

[budwom]

Bottom of the ACC is very weak this year. BC and Wake are below 100 in Pomeroy.

Might want to catch Wake tonight, favored vs Cornell....KenPom has them as preliminary underdogs in their final 17 (seventeen) tiffs.
This should give Danny Manning plenty of time to pack. Does he have a tie dyed luggage set?

[devildeac]

Might want to catch Wake tonight, favored vs Cornell...KenPom has them as preliminary underdogs in their final 17 (seventeen) tiffs.
This should give Danny Manning plenty of time to pack. Does he have a tie dyed luggage set?

Maybe the Deacon mascot could loan him his motorcycle for his trip outta town. :rolleyes:

[MarkD83]

Bottom of the ACC is very weak this year. BC and Wake are below 100 in Pomeroy.

So to which one of these two teams will Duke inexplicably lose.

Hopefully since we play good defense the answer is neither, but Duke is always good for one bad loss in January.

[MChambers]

State is losing to Miami at the half, 45-37. Didn’t see that coming, even at Miami.

[Tripping William]

State is losing to Miami at the half, 45-37. Didn’t see that coming, even at Miami.

Chris Lykes is a boatload of fun to watch.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Chris Lykes is a boatload of fun to watch.

pack up 5 with 23 sec left

[PackMan97]

State is losing to Miami at the half, 45-37. Didn’t see that coming, even at Miami.

There is a reason they call it HALF time ;) At full time, State wins by 5.

NC State picks up the ever important ACC road win to start the season.

[JasonEvans]

There is a reason they call it HALF time ;) At full time, State wins by 5.

NC State picks up the ever important ACC road win to start the season.

I am starting to really get on the Pack bandwagon. They look very legit and, as I said on the podcast, they have a ridiculously favorable ACC schedule this year (random, but sometimes random works out nicely for you). I'll predict right now that they will finish in the top 4 in the league and I have a hard time seeing how they win less than 10 games in conference play (probably more than that).

-Jason "State just needs to be careful not to be too good or someone is going to snatch up Kevin Keats" Evans

[PackMan97]

I am starting to really get on the Pack bandwagon. They look very legit and, as I said on the podcast, they have a ridiculously favorable ACC schedule this year (random, but sometimes random works out nicely for you). I'll predict right now that they will finish in the top 4 in the league and I have a hard time seeing how they win less than 10 games in conference play (probably more than that).

-Jason "State just needs to be careful not to be too good or someone is going to snatch up Kevin Keats" Evans

Statistically had no business winning this game. Badly Lost the turnover battle. Badly Lost the fouls and free throw battle. Their best player has a career day. Still won.

Keatts was given a new contract and $500k pay raise this year. State is working to make sure he stays. Going his ties to the NC/VA area are enough to help tie him down.

[gofurman]

There is a reason they call it HALF time ;) At full time, State wins by 5.

NC State picks up the ever important ACC road win to start the season.

Great road win

[CDu]

So to which one of these two teams will Duke inexplicably lose.

Hopefully since we play good defense the answer is neither, but Duke is always good for one bad loss in January.

Well, we don't play at BC this year, so the chance of losing to BC are pretty slim. We play at Wake next Tuesday in our first true road game. Which means that Wake is the easy answer among those two teams. But Wake is SOOO bad this year that it would be a pretty epic loss.

I don't think we'll lose to either this year.

[DU82]

Well, we don't play at BC this year, so the chance of losing to BC are pretty slim. We play at Wake next Tuesday in our first true road game. Which means that Wake is the easy answer among those two teams. But Wake is SOOO bad this year that it would be a pretty epic loss.

I don't think we'll lose to either this year.

So, after a win at Wake, we'll finally be "qualified" to be ranked by some voters? :rolleyes:

[W&LHoo]

Does anyone here understand the methodology behind the BPI?

Because right now it's predicting an 88.6% likelihood of a UVA victory over FSU tomorrow. Even as a wahoo who thinks we've got a great team this year, I couldn't imagine winning 9 of 10 games we played against the Noles.

Looking at the schedule, neither team has really proved much, and I can't imagine a loss to Villanova is that significant a black mark for FSU statistically.

[DU82]

Does anyone here understand the methodology behind the BPI?

Because right now it's predicting an 88.6% likelihood of a UVA victory over FSU tomorrow. Even as a wahoo who thinks we've got a great team this year, I couldn't imagine winning 9 of 10 games we played against the Noles.

Looking at the schedule, neither team has really proved much, and I can't imagine a loss to Villanova is that significant a black mark for FSU statistically.

In my view, they push the "conference lead" far more than they should, and so the leader in the Pac-12, for instance, gets more credit for that than the second place team in the ACC does for its standing in the conference. I don't know the mechanics of the rating, but it was created by ESPN, so the primary goal is clicks on their web page.

[sagegrouse]

So, after a win at Wake, we'll finally be "qualified" to be ranked by some voters? :rolleyes:

Heck, we'll get a vote from Graham Couch, even if we lose.

[CameronBlue]

Great road win

Great road win for State but it doesn't make up for the face plant against TAMU. Different sport I realize but State's entire athletic program is the poster child for unfulfilled expectations. Somewhere there has to be a poster emblazoned with "Is He Addicted to Gambling?" It's a picture of a mother of 3 begging for change on the Vegas strip because her husband bet State to cover in Chapel Hill.

[CDu]

Does anyone here understand the methodology behind the BPI?

Because right now it's predicting an 88.6% likelihood of a UVA victory over FSU tomorrow. Even as a wahoo who thinks we've got a great team this year, I couldn't imagine winning 9 of 10 games we played against the Noles.

Looking at the schedule, neither team has really proved much, and I can't imagine a loss to Villanova is that significant a black mark for FSU statistically.

Not sure about ESPN's formula, but TRank (Bart Torvik) has the same 89% chance for UVa using his formula. I'd imagine Pomeroy favors UVa by a similar probability. Probably a little bit lower than Torvik and ESPN (because they rate FSU a little higher than Torvik does), but I'd guess it is still a REALLY high probability.

[PackMan97]

Great road win for State but it doesn't make up for the face plant against TAMU. Different sport I realize but State's entire athletic program is the poster child for unfulfilled expectations. Somewhere there has to be a poster emblazoned with "Is He Addicted to Gambling?" It's a picture of a mother of 3 begging for change on the Vegas strip because her husband bet State to cover in Chapel Hill.

To be honest...lost our OC. Lost our OL coach. Co-DC Ted Roof off to App State. Best WR isn't playing. Best defensive player not playing...against a good SEC team. I was hoping we'd put up a fight...and we did until the Pick-6. /shrug

The problem is folks expect that State has ever had a super successful football program. Right now is about as best as State football has ever been. Top 25 recruiting classes. Back to back 9 win seasons. Tons of players getting drafted in the NFL, including multiple first rounders.

I'm annoyed we collapsed in the second half of the game, but overall...State football is in as good of shape as it's ever been in (which does deserve a decent * in that that's never been more than a fringe top 20-25 program)

[budwom]

Great road win for State but it doesn't make up for the face plant against TAMU. Different sport I realize but State's entire athletic program is the poster child for unfulfilled expectations. Somewhere there has to be a poster emblazoned with "Is He Addicted to Gambling?" It's a picture of a mother of 3 begging for change on the Vegas strip because her husband bet State to cover in Chapel Hill.

I still think State will make that FG kick agsinst Clemmons...

[CameronBlue]

I still think State will make that FG kick agsinst Clemmons...

oh, yeah, fell for that one too.

[W&LHoo]

Not sure about ESPN's formula, but TRank (Bart Torvik) has the same 89% chance for UVa using his formula. I'd imagine Pomeroy favors UVa by a similar probability. Probably a little bit lower than Torvik and ESPN (because they rate FSU a little higher than Torvik does), but I'd guess it is still a REALLY high probability.

Fair enough

[pfrduke]

Pomeroy has it as an 80% game.

[MChambers]

Not sure about ESPN's formula, but TRank (Bart Torvik) has the same 89% chance for UVa using his formula. I'd imagine Pomeroy favors UVa by a similar probability. Probably a little bit lower than Torvik and ESPN (because they rate FSU a little higher than Torvik does), but I'd guess it is still a REALLY high probability.

Interestingly, Sagarin only gives UVa a 61% chance. Guess that is because Sagarin's stats aren't tempo adjusted.

[Bob Green]

Pittsburgh is hanging with Carolina early. The Panthers have mixed things up on defense with a 2-3 zone. TV Teddy is one of the refs.

Carolina 15, Pitt 14 at the < 12 minute timeout.

[Bob Green]

Since my previous post Carolina has went on a 16-0 run.

[devildeac]

Since my previous post Carolina has went on a 16-0 run.

Sounds like Capel should have bought/borrowed/stolen one of ol roy's timeouts :rolleyes:.

[Bob Green]

Carolina 45, Pitt 23

Boston College 32, Virginia Tech 30

Notre Dame 38, Syracuse 37

[chris13]

Pitt had a real opportunity there. Game tied, in the bonus with 14 minutes to play, and then the drought began.

[timmy c]

Since my previous post Carolina has went on a 16-0 run.

Bob, may I humbly recommend the jinx thread?

[PackMan97]

Pitt shot 30% for the game. Tough to win against a bad team like that.

[Bob Green]

Carolina 85, Pitt 60

Virginia Tech 77, Boston College 66

Syracuse 72, Notre Dame 62

A couple of takeaways from the Carolina game (the game I watched):

1. Cam Johnson continues to be a fantastic 3 PT shooter.
2. Coby White is a very good player.

[PackMan97]

3. Nasir White will be the latest in a long line of 5* players for Carolina that stay in college long after their peers are getting paid in the NBA.

[Bob Green]

3. Nasir Little will be the latest in a long line of 5* players for Carolina that stay in college long after their peers are getting paid in the NBA.

FIFY.

Little and his teammates do not look comfortable with each other. It is like they are not on the same page. I'm not implying there is a problem. I am implying Little needs to see more playing time.

[Wahoo2000]

Kyle Guy straight 🔥🔥🔥🔥 late in the half to give my Wahoos a big lead at the half - up 42-23. Some of those late 3s were Reddick-esque. Just coming off of screens and pulling - didn't even care if they were contested. Even had a 1-on-1 step back deep 3. I don't think we'll lose many games when EITHER Guy or Jerome are on fire like that.

FSU is dangerously athletic, but fundamentally poor (like that's any different than most years). Still, if they get super hot playing hero-ball, they can still get back into it.

[BandAlum83]

Kyle Guy straight �������� late in the half to give my Wahoos a big lead at the half - up 42-23. Some of those late 3s were Reddick-esque. Just coming off of screens and pulling - didn't even care if they were contested. Even had a 1-on-1 step back deep 3. I don't think we'll lose many games when EITHER Guy or Jerome are on fire like that.

FSU is dangerously athletic, but fundamentally poor (like that's any different than most years). Still, if they get super hot playing hero-ball, they can still get back into it.

Of course I have FSU +8.5 and the under 130.5 in the degenerate contest. Not looking too good on either count. I am really bad at this.

I NEVER thought UVA could hang 42 in a half and get such separation at the same time.

[Wahoo2000]

Of course I have FSU +8.5 and the under 130.5 in the degenerate contest. Not looking too good on either count. I am really bad at this.

I NEVER thought UVA could hang 42 in a half and get such separation at the same time.

I really think we are much better than usual this year offensively. Not as good defensively though. Fortunately, FSU has missed a ton of FTs and decent looks from 3, and also has several unforced (or semi-forced) turnovers. In other words, I'm actually much more surprised by FSU's low score than UVA's high score.

[BandAlum83]

I really think we are much better than usual this year offensively. Not as good defensively though. Fortunately, FSU has missed a ton of FTs and decent looks from 3, and also has several unforced (or semi-forced) turnovers. In other words, I'm actually much more surprised by FSU's low score than UVA's high score.

At least the scoring pace has slowed down. Only 20 pts have been scored in the first 10 minutes of the second half. I have a shot at the under. Typically I tend to see more total points in the second half vs. the first half.

As far as FSU +8.5 goes, however, FSU is down by 21. Surprising! and it would take quite rally to get to within 8.5, and to do so would probably cost me the o/u. If I can split this one, I'll be happy

[devildeac]

Kyle Guy straight 🔥🔥🔥🔥 late in the half to give my Wahoos a big lead at the half - up 42-23. Some of those late 3s were Reddick-esque. Just coming off of screens and pulling - didn't even care if they were contested. Even had a 1-on-1 step back deep 3. I don't think we'll lose many games when EITHER Guy or Jerome are on fire like that.

FSU is dangerously athletic, but fundamentally poor (like that's any different than most years). Still, if they get super hot playing hero-ball, they can still get back into it.

Mark down 1 week from today when f$u plays their "championship" game. :mad:

[Wahoo2000]

At least the scoring pace has slowed down. Only 20 pts have been scored in the first 10 minutes of the second half. I have a shot at the under. Typically I tend to see more total points in the second half vs. the first half.

As far as FSU +8.5 goes, however, FSU is down by 21. Surprising! and it would take quite rally to get to within 8.5, and to do so would probably cost me the o/u. If I can split this one, I'll be happy

Yeah, almost as soon as I posted, UVA's offense ground to a near halt, lol. About right. Fortunately, FSU not scoring either.

[BandAlum83]

Will FSU even manage to score 40? Can they really be the #14 team in the country, or is UVA a total monster this year?

[BandAlum83]

Yeah, almost as soon as I posted, UVA's offense ground to a near halt, lol. About right. Fortunately, FSU not scoring either.

Am I seeing this right? Is it possible the internet is wrong? With 5:34 left in the second half, the scoring in the half is UVA 13, FSU 9?

What is this, middle school ball?

[Wahoo2000]

Am I seeing this right? Is it possible the internet is wrong? With 5:34 left in the second half, the scoring in the half is UVA 13, FSU 9?

What is this, middle school ball?

Yeah - a TON of bricks out there. Neither of these teams allow much going to the basket/in the paint, so if you're not shooting jumpers well, it's a tough go to put points on the board. Refs have also allowed a good amount of bodying on drives by both teams, which hurts converting in the paint.

Additionally, UVa almost NEVER turns it over, and also rarely pushes the ball OFF of turnovers, so nobody's getting anything easy in transition either. Basically, UVA in the first half was draining a ton of jumpers and built a big lead. other than that, it's been fairly similar quality of ball - slight edge to us in just playing smart and clean on D.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Yeah - a TON of bricks out there. Neither of these teams allow much going to the basket/in the paint, so if you're not shooting jumpers well, it's a tough go to put points on the board. Refs have also allowed a good amount of bodying on drives by both teams, which hurts converting in the paint.

Additionally, UVa almost NEVER turns it over, and also rarely pushes the ball OFF of turnovers, so nobody's getting anything easy in transition either. Basically, UVA in the first half was draining a ton of jumpers and built a big lead. other than that, it's been fairly similar quality of ball - slight edge to us in just playing smart and clean on D.

UVA: great team, "must miss" TV.........

[Wahoo2000]

Welp, we were up 65-36 with a little over 2 min left. Then the walkons came in and FSU started pressing like crazy.

65-52 final. Advanced metrics sites won't account for it due to the walkons struggling with like 7 turnovers in the last 2 min leading to 16 points for the Noles..... but we dominated this contest. I was surprised.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Welp, we were up 65-36 with a little over 2 min left. Then the walkons came in and FSU started pressing like crazy.

65-52 final. Advanced metrics sites won't account for it due to the walkons struggling with like 7 turnovers in the last 2 min leading to 16 points for the Noles.... but we dominated this contest. I was surprised.

That was a total thrashing......much worse than the final score. Obviously the Hoos D is back.....and just as obviously, Leonard Hamilton continues to fall totally flat on his face in certain big games.......often in the NCAAT.

[Tripping William]

Props to our Wahoo friends. In more ways than one.

8926

[BandAlum83]

Props to our Wahoo friends. In more ways than one.

8926

who is that? Are we supposed to know?

[devildeac]

who is that? Are we supposed to know?

Hint: "What Would You Say?"



(but it *looks* like Tom Hanks)

[BandAlum83]

Hint: "What Would You Say?"



(but it *looks* like Tom Hanks)

Maybe without the hat and beard I would see Dave Matthews, but it looks more like Kevin Spacey in disguise.

[flyingdutchdevil]

Maybe without the hat and beard I would see Dave Matthews, but it looks more like Kevin Spacey in disguise.

???

Really? I see Tom Hanks ten years ago.

[BandAlum83]

???

Really? I see Tom Hanks ten years ago.

I wouldn't disagree..but I assumed the picture is from today's game ;)

[devildeac]

Props to our Wahoo friends. In more ways than one.

8926


8927

[BandAlum83]

8927

It's OK, DD.

Man crushes are allowed. We don't judge!

:)

[devildeac]

It's OK, DD.

Man crushes are allowed. We don't judge!

:)

Funny stuff. :o