JJ 10k

[nmduke2001]

JJ scored his 10,000th NBA point today with a nice 18 foot jumper. The guy is aging very well and has a chance to have his highest scoring year.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=25576313
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Btw, I thought this deserved its own thread but if it belongs in the Dukies in the NBA thread, feel free to move.

[subzero02]

Congrats to JJ... I still remember watching him in the 2002 McDonald's all American game...

[cato]

Nice work, JJ!

Apparently, he is the 12th Dukie to hit 10k. Who were the first 11?


My guesses without looking it up:

Hill
Brand
Boozer
Laettner
Maggette
Deng

Has Kyrie had time to get there?

Maybe Dunleavy.

I doubt Battier got there. He was the no-stats all star, after all.

So there must be 3-4 players from before the K era to round out the list.

[barely]

How about:
Jeff Mullins
G-man
Johnny D
Ferry

[bluesin]

Nice work, JJ!

Apparently, he is the 12th Dukie to hit 10k. Who were the first 11?


My guesses without looking it up:

Hill
Brand
Boozer
Laettner
Maggette
Deng

Has Kyrie had time to get there?

Maybe Dunleavy.

I doubt Battier got there. He was the no-stats all star, after all.

So there must be 3-4 players from before the K era to round out the list.

If this site is to be believed https://basketball.realgm.com/ncaa/conferences/Ivy-League/14/Duke/31/nba-players then the list is:

Irving
Hill
Boozer
Mullins
Maggette
Brand
Deng
Marin
Laettner
J.J.
Gminski
Dunleavy

[cato]

How about:
Jeff Mullins
G-man
Johnny D
Ferry

Good call on Mullins and G-man. Looks like the other was Marin.

I checked, and per Basektball reference:

JD clocked in at 5,984
Ferry got 6,439

https://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/colleges.cgi?college=duke

Congrats to Duke’s career leading scorer on joining a list of elite NBA players.

[JasonEvans]

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Courtesy Basketball Reference

-Jason "I figure Kyrie will move to #1 on this list in the next half decade" Evans

[rsvman]

Congrats to JJ. He has really worked hard over the years.

And if that is his career 3-point shooting percentage it's pretty darned good, especially given the defensive attention a guy like JJ gets on the perimeter.

[jimsumner]

Jeff Mullins played most of his NBA career at Golden State, at a time when NBA games on the west coast might as well have been played on Mars. But for four or five years in the late 1960s and early 1970s, he was one of the best basketball players on the planet.

The planet being Earth, of course.

[weezie]

I remember JJ's famous game against texas when the collective inhale of the crowd, every time he launched a 3, was as exciting as these Zion "incoming" expectations.

Kind of a reverse hush fell/falls over the crowd.

Congratulations JJ! And sit on that, old tired haters!

[cato]

Jeff Mullins played most of his NBA career at Golden State, at a time when NBA games on the west coast might as well have been played on Mars. But for four or five years in the late 1960s and early 1970s, he was one of the best basketball players on the planet.

The planet being Earth, of course.

Looks like he is tied with Boozer for third in scoring average, behind only Grant Hill and Kyrie Irving (K’s best NBA player and his heir apparent).

[devildeac]

I remember JJ's famous game against texas when the collective inhale of the crowd, every time he launched a 3, was as exciting as these Zion "incoming" expectations.

Kind of a reverse hush fell/falls over the crowd.

Congratulations JJ! And sit on that, old tired haters!

With Ozzie and his cronies chanting, "Just like Clemson, clap,clap, clap/clap/clap" from nearby Rick Barnes. :D

[OZZIE4DUKE]

With Ozzie and his cronies chanting, "Just like Clemson, clap,clap, clap/clap/clap" from nearby Rick Barnes. :D
A very fond memory! And our same group will be at the Garden tonight rooting us on! It should be Ziontastic! LGD GTHc!

[Billy Dat]

I figure Kyrie will move to #1 on this list in the next half decade

First, a salute to JJ. If every NBA player had his work ethic and desire/ability to improve, there'd be a lot more guys being compared to MJ.

But, as your footer indicates, I was blown away that Kyrie had already gotten there. If he has a decent run of health and keeps the fire in his belly, he should be the first to 20K.

[JasonEvans]

But, as your footer indicates, I was blown away that Kyrie had already gotten there. If he has a decent run of health and keeps the fire in his belly, he should be the first to 20K.

Health is the key with him. In Kyrie's first 7 years in the league, he only topped 60 games 3 times. If he could get to the point where his health allowed him to play 70+ games every year, the sky would be the limit. If he plays 70+ games, he should easily score 1600+ points (that would be a 23ppg average). If he played another 8 years (to about age 35), he would likely be somewhere in the top 25 scorers in the history of the game.


1 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 38,387
2 Karl Malone 36,928
3 Kobe Bryant 33,643
4 Michael Jordan 32,292
5 LeBRON JAMES 31,905
6 Wilt Chamberlain 31,419
7 DIRK NOWITZKI 31,195
8 Shaquille O'Neal 28,596
9 Moses Malone 27,409
10 Elvin Hayes 27,313
11 Hakeem Olajuwon 26,946
12 Oscar Robertson 26,710
13 Dominique Wilkins 26,668
14 Tim Duncan 26,496
15 Paul Pierce 26,397
16 John Havlicek 26,395
17 Kevin Garnett 26,071
18 Alex English 25,613
19 CARMELO ANTHONY 25,551
20 Reggie Miller 25,279
21 Jerry West 25,192
22 VINCE CARTER 25,061
23 Patrick Ewing 24,815
24 Ray Allen 24,505
25 Allen Iverson 24,368

[Truth&Justise]

https://i.ibb.co/SczmPhB/Capture.png
Courtesy Basketball Reference

-Jason "I figure Kyrie will move to #1 on this list in the next half decade" Evans

Seeing this got me thinking about which programs have produced the most 10,000 point scorers.

I looked on Basketball Reference and here's what I found:



School
# of 10k Scorers


UNC
15


Duke
12


UCLA
12


Kentucky
9


UConn
8


Illinois
8


Arizona
7


Kansas
7


Michigan
7


Michigan St.
7


Ohio St.
7


Indiana
6



By no means is this an exhaustive list, I just checked some of the more historically renowned CBB programs. Given current recruiting trends, have to imagine Duke and Kentucky will make up some ground and maybe take that top spot in the not-too-distant future. But already this shows that the old adage about Duke not producing good pros was complete hogwash.

Congrats JJ!

[Bob Green]

Looks like he is tied with Boozer for third in scoring average, behind only Grant Hill and Kyrie Irving (K’s best NBA player and his heir apparent).

I see Bob Verga at #2 in scoring average at 20.2 points.

[jimsumner]

I see Bob Verga at #2 in scoring average at 20.2 points.

Which brings up an interesting question. Most of Verga's points were in the ABA and his brief foray into the NBA was not successful.

Do we discount ABA stats? Disregard them entirely?

[Tappan Zee Devil]

Which brings up an interesting question. Most of Verga's points were in the ABA and his brief foray into the NBA was not successful.

Do we discount ABA stats? Disregard them entirely?

Verga was the best long distance shooter I have ever (in person) seen.
His main problem was that he isn't much taller than me and I'm not tall.
No - don't disregard the ABA - if you do, there are a number of very great players (for example Dr. J) that you are dissing.