Independence Bowl: Duke 56, Temple 27

[-jk]

A nice, generally warmer location!

Let's Go Duke!

https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2018/12/duke-football-to-face-temple-in-independence-bowl-in-shreveport-la

-jk

[OldPhiKap]

Where is the team hotel? Anyone know?

[-jk]

Where is the team hotel? Anyone know?

Above the tattoo parlor...

-jk

[fuse]

Looking at Sagarin, and Temple record and opponents, looks like it will be a good game and a tough matchup.

[House G]

A nice, generally warmer location!

Let's Go Duke!

https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2018/12/duke-football-to-face-temple-in-independence-bowl-in-shreveport-la

-jk

Generally, but you never know:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=40h2f-gzTvE

[Reilly]

There's a $26 Greyhound bus trip available at 12:40 pm on 12/26 from Dallas to Shreveport: https://www.greyhound.com/en/ecommerce/schedule

[Reilly]

Shreveport weather: https://www.bestplaces.net/climate/city/louisiana/shreveport

[Bob Green]

Temple is 8-4 with some good wins and close losses. They appear to be a tough team so we need to get some players healthy and prepare for a tough team.

Raw statistics without context can be misleading, and I haven't watched any film clips yet, but the Temple quarterbacks have thrown 19 TDs and 18 INTs. That jumps out at me...

http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/218

Starting quarterback Anthony Russo did not play in the season finale and was on the sidelines with a cast on his right hand. I did a Google search but couldn't find any updated information on his status.

[Reilly]

Had forgotten this story -- in 1974, Terry Bradshaw's Steelers beat Joe Ferguson's Bills in a playoff game -- Ferguson had succeeded Bradshaw as QB at Shreveport's Woodlawn High.

[House G]

Apparently the early line is Temple -6. Isn’t that our specialty—a road dog?

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Temple is 8-4 with some good wins and close losses. They appear to be a tough team so we need to get some players healthy and prepare for a tough team.

Raw statistics without context can be misleading, and I haven't watched any film clips yet, but the Temple quarterbacks have thrown 19 TDs and 18 INTs. That jumps out at me...

http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/218

Starting quarterback Anthony Russo did not play in the season finale and was on the sidelines with a cast on his right hand. I did a Google search but couldn't find any updated information on his status.

Temple is better than I thought they were....and hoped they were. They had a shoot out at UCF and lost 52-40 although the game was a lot closer than that and Temple led a lot of that game. They also lost a 45-35 shootout with BC. They beat a good Cincy team.

[Reilly]

Margin of victory/defeat ... opponent ( opponent rank in SRS) ... [ordered by best outcome to worst]

Duke is the 48th best team in the SRS (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/years/2018-ratings.html


+42 NCCU (FCS)
+20 Army (#39)
+14 @NU (#37)
+14 @GT (#47)
+13 @Baylor (#66)
+08 @Miami (#29)
+07 UNC (#95)
-----------------------------
-09 @Pitt (#41)
-14 UVa (#44)
-17 VT (#79)
-29 @Clemson (#2)
-52 WFU (#69)

Duke had no games with margins from -08 to +06 ... if we get in a tight one, will our kicking game come through?

We got a #22 AP ranking at one point.

Duke beat four teams that ended up ranked above it: Miami, NU, Army, GT.
Duke lost to two teams that ended up ranked below it: VT, WFU.


Temple is the 49th best team in the SRS


+50 @UConn (#128)
+43 ECU (#111)
+21 @MD (#56)
+14 Tulsa (#104)
+10 @Houston (#54)
+10 USF (#93)
+07 Cincy (#31)
+07 @Navy (#102)
-----------------------------------
-02 Villanova (FCS)
-07 Buffalo (#59)
-10 @BC (#46)
-12 @UCF (#8)

Temple beat one team that ended up above it: Cincy.
Temple lost to two teams that ended up below it: Villanova, Buffalo.

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On Sagarin, Temple is #46 and Duke #59 (https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/

[Reilly]

Looks like we have to try to stop #7 ... 4 straight 100-yard games at one point this season: https://owlsports.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=10762

[Reilly]

Pop Warner coached at Temple. He also coached at Pitt, where one of his QBs was James DeHart, who coached at Duke.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop_Warner

[devildeac]

This is about all I got for this one:

https://www.google.com/search?q=shreveport+breweries&oq=shre&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j0l4.5522j1j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

No reviews/knowledge of any of these joints. :o

I'll be no help with tatoo parlors and/or body-piercing establishments, either. :o

Sorry, OPK.

[OldPhiKap]

I'll be no help with tatoo parlors and/or body-piercing establishments, either. :o

Sorry, OPK.

As long as you can hit me with another battery of antibiotics, you’re okay in my book.

[asbcheeks]

Where is the team hotel? Anyone know?

I'm looking for this info as well. TIA

[devildeac]

As long as you can hit me with another battery of antibiotics, you’re okay in my book.

I gave up my license to practice in your undisclosed location when we moved here 32+ years ago. I'd suggest one of the local hospitals' physician referral networks. However, I am good for a beer and some BBQ next season.

[Reilly]

Going for largest pot of gumbo http://independencebowl.org/walk-ons-to-stir-up-worlds-largest-pot-of-gumbo-at-independence-bowl-fan-fest/

[OldPhiKap]

I gave up my license to practice in your undisclosed location when we moved here 32+ years ago. I'd suggest one of the local hospitals' physician referral networks. However, I am good for a beer and some BBQ next season.

Maybe a milk stout, it can double as ointment.

DaughterPk’s school is in the playoffs, gotta choose between our bowl or gambling on making the Natty game with her the next week. Oddly, I would miss more work doing our game than hers. I hate to miss our bowl game, but since we are going to whoop Alabama to start next season I figure I may should go root for them to end this season.

Nothing easy in this world.

[Reilly]

... Alabama ...

So how many RVs will be going from Alabama to Miami to Santa Clara over a 10-day period ... only 44 hours by car from Miami to Santa Clara ...

I saw Independence Bowl tix for $15 face ... guess the national championship will be about the same give or take a few zeros ...

[weezie]

Generally, but you never know:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=40h2f-gzTvE

I hear House G has a nice yard where you can all park your RVs and trailers and feel free to use his garden hose for showers.

He's a true Southern gentleman, he is.

[OldPhiKap]

So how many RVs will be going from Alabama to Miami to Santa Clara over a 10-day period ... only 44 hours by car from Miami to Santa Clara ...

I saw Independence Bowl tix for $15 face ... guess the national championship will be about the same give or take a few zeros ...

Yeah, the price is . . . Higher.

[House G]

I hear House G has a nice yard where you can all park your RVs and trailers and feel free to use his garden hose for showers.

He's a true Southern gentleman, he is.

Weezie, nice to see you’re up and at em this morning. As a Duke alum who was born and and raised and still lives in Shreveport, I am certainly available to offer assistance to anyone coming here for the I-Bowl. I am working on a post about Shreveport and our Bowl and hope to have it up later today. I understand that there may not be a great influx of folks to Shreveport right after Christmas to watch our team that got its ears pinned back against Wake. But I would love to have the opportunity to meet and hangout with anyone from the DBR community who can make the trip. I have never been to a college bowl game (aside from the I-Bowl) but I have been to a handful of Final Fours. I too would like to know where the team is staying (I’m guessing the Hilton downtown). I got an email yesterday about the pregame party near the stadium. Is there any kind of gathering or party the evening before the game?

[Philsfan]

Well, as a Temple alum and Duke fan, this should be interesting...

[NYBri]

Bill Cosby is probably the most famous, now infamous, Temple alum. Believe he ran track. You are now set up for some comments. :cool:

[Reilly]

... Is there any kind of gathering or party the evening before the game?

Events here: http://independencebowl.org/events-2/

Pub crawl, Battle of the (School) Bands, and a country music group performing -- all in the Red River District the night before the game ...

Duke announced a 10-12 pm day of game tailgate ($45 for adult).

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Bill Cosby is probably the most famous, now infamous, Temple alum. Believe he ran track. You are now set up for some comments. :cool:

I'll stick to the benign...and just mention that I believe he had to wear some Duke gear on "Cosby" as a result of a lost bet regarding a Temple-Duke game...I would imagine there are people here who can recount every detail of this.

[OldPhiKap]

I'll stick to the benign...and just mention that I believe he had to wear some Duke gear on "Cosby" as a result of a lost bet regarding a Temple-Duke game...

Yup. Billy King shutting down Mark Macon was one of K's first big tournament upsets.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Yup. Billy King shutting down Mark Macon was one of K's first big tournament upsets.

Oh wow, I didn't realize it was that game......that was an UGLY UGLY game.....but sent us to K's second FF - and first one after the 86 team? I don't think Macon was ever the same again.....

[devildeac]

Bill Cosby is probably the most famous, now infamous, Temple alum. Believe he ran track. You are now set up for some comments. :cool:

Jel-lo pud-ding

Clap, clap, clap/clap/clap.

[devildeac]

I'll stick to the benign...and just mention that I believe he had to wear some Duke gear on "Cosby" as a result of a lost bet regarding a Temple-Duke game...I would imagine there are people here who can recount every detail of this.


Yup. Billy King shutting down Mark Macon was one of K's first big tournament upsets.


Oh wow, I didn't realize it was that game...that was an UGLY UGLY game...but sent us to K's second FF - and first one after the 86 team? I don't think Macon was ever the same again...

Unless Temple visited Duke at CIS many years ago with Cos in attendance. I'm *thinking* that was the jel-lo pud-ding chant origin that I remember.

[CrazyNotCrazie]

Unless Temple visited Duke at CIS many years ago with Cos in attendance. I'm *thinking* that was the jel-lo pud-ding chant origin that I remember.

Correct. February, 1994. It might have been Grant Hill's jersey retirement ceremony. Cosby enjoyed hamming it up with the crowd. Not nearly as meaningful of a game as the Mark Macon one but still a lot of fun.

[devildeac]

Correct. February, 1994. It might have been Grant Hill's jersey retirement ceremony. Cosby enjoyed hamming it up with the crowd. Not nearly as meaningful of a game as the Mark Macon one but still a lot of fun.

Hey, hey hey! Thanks for the clarification!

[Green Wave Dukie]

Well, as a Temple alum and Duke fan, this should be interesting...

Thought for a while with some of the prognostications about who Duke might be playing that I was reading here yesterday afternoon, I was going to be the one with that problem instead of you.

[Reilly]

December 3: today
December 4
December 5
December 6
December 7: Duke undergraduate classes end
December 8: Duke reading period
December 9: Duke reading period
December 10: Team announcement party, Shreveport; Duke reading period
December 11: Duke reading period
December 12: Duke exams begin
December 13:
December 14:
December 15:
December 16:
December 17: Duke exams end
December 18:
December 19:
December 20:
December 21:
December 22:
December 23: bowl week event - game show, so team in Shreveport
December 24:
December 25: Christmas Day
December 26:
December 27: 12:30 pm local time/1:30 pm EST game

[Devilwin]

December 3: today
December 4
December 5
December 6
December 7: Duke undergraduate classes end
December 8: Duke reading period
December 9: Duke reading period
December 10: Team announcement party, Shreveport; Duke reading period
December 11: Duke reading period
December 12: Duke exams begin
December 13:
December 14:
December 15:
December 16:
December 17: Duke exams end
December 18:
December 19:
December 20:
December 21:
December 22:
December 23: bowl week event - game show, so team in Shreveport
December 24:
December 25: Christmas Day
December 26:
December 27: 12:30 pm local time/1:30 pm EST game

You forgot one..December 26th, my birthday!

[devildeac]

These folks consider this game to be #25 on the bowl scale this year:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/ranking-the-2018-bowl-games-1-39-alabama-oklahoma-is-no-1/ar-BBQoAIS?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp

"Daniel Jones is an NFL QB prospect for Duke, a team that was outscored 94-13 in its final two games. David Cutcliffe will have his guys ready to finish the season out on a much higher note. Geoff Collins has been a smooth transition from the days of Matt Rhule for Temple. The Owls shook off an 0-2 start to win eight of its final 10. Those two losses came to UCF and Boston College, both on the road."

[SlimSlowSlider]

These folks consider this game to be #25 on the bowl scale this year:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/ranking-the-2018-bowl-games-1-39-alabama-oklahoma-is-no-1/ar-BBQoAIS?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp

CBSSports has the Independence Bowl at #14. https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/ranking-all-39-college-football-bowl-games-from-the-gasparilla-bowl-to-the-orange-bowl/

They have the First Responder Bowl at #6. My colleague, a BC grad, suspects the author must be a BC alum.

[Devil in the Blue Dress]

Maybe a milk stout, it can double as ointment.

DaughterPk’s school is in the playoffs, gotta choose between our bowl or gambling on making the Natty game with her the next week. Oddly, I would miss more work doing our game than hers. I hate to miss our bowl game, but since we are going to whoop Alabama to start next season I figure I may should go root for them to end this season.

Nothing easy in this world.

You know you're going to face this question for four years unless your daughter also goes to graduate school in Tuscaloosa which will extend the duration of this dilemma.

[Reilly]

CBSSports has the Independence Bowl at #14 ...

They say this: "there's potential for it to get loose" ... I thought OPK was skipping the game?

[OldPhiKap]

They say this: "there's potential for it to get loose" ... I thought OPK was skipping the game?

“You must spread some Comments around before commenting on Reilly again.”

[DU82]

So, I go on GoDuke to buy a ticket. $50 for mid-field chairback seats. Not bad. $25 for “processing fee”. Geez, Ticketmaster doesn’t charge that much. (It’s per order. But when you’re just buying one, that’s a 50% up charge.)

[Reilly]

This year's Independence Bowl marks 20 years since Cut's first victory as a head coach, and one of his finest victories ever. Tuberville left Ole Miss for Auburn at the end of the regular season, Cut was hired December 2, and he got Ole Miss prepared in 26 days and they beat Spyke Dykes's Texas Tech team: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Independence_Bowl

Just crazy, to swoop in (in December) to a new team that just lost its coach and get it prepped and win a bowl game against a quality opponent (TTU ended #34 in the SRS that year; Ole Miss #51).

[Reilly]

#2 Clemson/#5 ND

#22 Syr/#11 WVU

#29 Mia/#42 Wisconsin

#33 NCSU/#19 TXAM

#41 Pitt/#32 Stanford

#44 UVA/#24 South Carolina

#46 BC/#28 Boise St

#47 GT/#53 Minn

#48 Duke/#49 Temple

#69 WFU/#51 Memphis

#79 VT/#31 Cincy

Bold = ACC team higher than opponent in SRS: https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/years/2018-ratings.html
Of ACC bowl opponents, only Memphis and Minnesota ranked lower than Temple.

************************************************** *

Point spreads of ACC games, in order:

Clemson -11.5
GT -3.5
Miami -3
===========
BC +2.5
Wake +4.5
Duke +6
UVA +6
Pitt +6.5
NCSU +7
VT +7
Syr +7

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/12/3/18123188/bowl-games-picks-predictions-odds-spreads


Duke appears to be the best value bet of the ACC teams -- ranked higher than its opponent in the SRS, yet getting points. Every other ACC team follows the traditional path (ranked higher/giving points ... or ranked lower/getting points).

[budwom]

only trouble with our rating there (Sagarin has us as the lesser team by approx. 3 pts I believe) is that Temple is clearly a team on the rise, and we are not. We get a lot of justifiable credit for
wins like NW, but that was then.

[Reilly]

... Temple is clearly a team on the rise, and we are not ...

True. That said, if JGH, BH, and BB are all 100%, I like Duke's chances.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

only trouble with our rating there (Sagarin has us as the lesser team by approx. 3 pts I believe) is that Temple is clearly a team on the rise, and we are not. We get a lot of justifiable credit for
wins like NW, but that was then.

I agree with your point of who's on the rise, who is not....BUT:
In a month, that could all be different. Temple might have gone stale, we might have rallied on the injury front. Or maybe Temple will lose their coach before then. LOT can change between now and then.

[Reilly]

... In a month ...

Month? We got 22 days and change. And we have to spend some of that time shopping and baking for Devilwin's birthday.

[devildeac]

Month? We got 22 days and change. And we have to spend some of that time shopping and baking for Devilwin's birthday.

And, even then, our FedEx delivery *might* be late ;):o.

[budwom]

I completely agree with Reilly and HereBefore...IF (big if) we get all our guys back, Cut has shown that he prepares for bowls very well.
Teams have learned to defend us by only rushing the bare minimum of guys (often three), dropping the rest into coverage. A hobbled Jones couldn't take advantage of that vs Wake.
I suspect Jones and Humphreys will be back, have no notion of JGH...

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Month? We got 22 days and change. And we have to spend some of that time shopping and baking for Devilwin's birthday.

A month from the last game. Almost exactly. Shop online for Devilwin.....

[arnie]

I completely agree with Reilly and HereBefore...IF (big if) we get all our guys back, Cut has shown that he prepares for bowls very well.
Teams have learned to defend us by only rushing the bare minimum of guys (often three), dropping the rest into coverage. A hobbled Jones couldn't take advantage of that vs Wake.
I suspect Jones and Humphreys will be back, have no notion of JGH...

Thought JGH had MCL tear. No surgery and typically 3-4 weeks before playing again (at least that’s been common with HS players). If the injury was just the MCL, would think he’d play in the bowl game unless he’s sitting out for draft reasons.

[duke2x]

only trouble with our rating there (Sagarin has us as the lesser team by approx. 3 pts I believe) is that Temple is clearly a team on the rise, and we are not. We get a lot of justifiable credit for
wins like NW, but that was then.

We also dropped 20? 30? spots when we lost to Wake. A model that puts that much weight on a potential outlier is prone to error. The biggest question is how we respond with a month off.

[Reilly]

We also dropped 20? 30? spots when we lost to Wake. A model that puts that much weight on a potential outlier is prone to error. The biggest question is how we respond with a month off.

I think we dropped from 42 to 60 in Sagariin. Maybe from 40 to 49 in SRS. Which (if either) is too much in your estimation?

It was a goggle-adjusting loss (worst in 11 years at Duke for Cut; Wake is no world-beater).

[Reilly]

tshirts for sale: https://independencebowl.shop/shop/category/2018-Duke?c=2147982&ctype=0

[OldPhiKap]

Any info on team hotel? Sorry if posted and I missed it.

[devildeac]

Steve Wiseman's very thorough update this AM in the News and Observer:

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/article222612715.html

Encouraging news about JGH and BH:

"Both said Tuesday they are recovering and hoping to play in the Independence Bowl."

[arnie]

Steve Wiseman's very thorough update this AM in the News and Observer:

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/article222612715.html

Encouraging news about JGH and BH:

"Both said Tuesday they are recovering and hoping to play in the Independence Bowl."

That’s great news and I think “hoping to” means the same as “will”. If I were gambling, that news would change the line by a TD.

[budwom]

Thought JGH had MCL tear. No surgery and typically 3-4 weeks before playing again (at least that’s been common with HS players). If the injury was just the MCL, would think he’d play in the bowl game unless he’s sitting out for draft reasons.

you'll never get much info out of Cut on injuries, but Mr. Wiseman reports it's a sprain, not a tear.
He also mentions none of the lads will sit out for draft reasons.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

That’s great news and I think “hoping to” means the same as “will”. If I were gambling, that news would change the line by a TD.

AGREE with your sentiment here^^^. At least a TD...not only will that be the return of two great linebackers, it will lift every players' spirits and confidence.

On another tangent, the article didn't mention what the Clemson and WF games might've done, or not done, to DJ's NFL chatter. He kind of burst onto the scene after the mega game versus that community college 8 miles down the road. I wondered if that burst had, well, burst.

And yes, i realize the NFL chatter started last year, and there was some early season some this year, but the cheats game had brought it back up.

[devildeac]

AGREE with your sentiment here^^^. At least a TD...not only will that be the return of two great linebackers, it will lift every players' spirits and confidence.

On another tangent, the article didn't mention what the Clemson and WF games might've done, or not done, to DJ's NFL chatter. He kind of burst onto the scene after the mega game versus that community college 8 miles down the road. I wondered if that burst had, well, burst.

And yes, i realize the NFL chatter started last year, and there was some early season some this year, but the cheats game had brought it back up.

DJ quote WRT skipping the bowl:

“I certainly plan on playing and I will play in the bowl game,” Jones said. “I’ve never really considered that as something I’d want to do. We are going to finish this season.”

You're right that the article really doesn't address his draft considerations/prognostications and I'm happy those guys mentioned all stated they want to play in the bowl game.

[swiseman]

DJ quote WRT skipping the bowl:

“I certainly plan on playing and I will play in the bowl game,” Jones said. “I’ve never really considered that as something I’d want to do. We are going to finish this season.”

You're right that the article really doesn't address his draft considerations/prognostications and I'm happy those guys mentioned all stated they want to play in the bowl game.

Daniel did answer a couple of questions about his draft thoughts. Here is the quote

“I’ve probably started to think about it more than I did before the Wake game,” Jones said. “I still have a whole lot of work to do and thought to do. I’m not anywhere near a decision there. I’m not sure I’ve done all the necessary homework to figured that out. Thought about it more. Not sure how close I am to really making a decision at this point.”

From what I know, he's compartmentalizing this very well. Never considered taking part in senior day activities. He's finishing up his degree this month so end of semester classwork is very important. He also wants Duke to finish this season strongly. As one of the captains, he's taking that leadership role seriously. He's very nonchalant about the NFL stuff, for now.

Because the coaching staff hit the road recruiting the morning after the Wake debacle, DJ and Cut haven't had a chance have the serious conversations they are going to have with the NFL feedback. I tend to believe he won't make a decision before the bowl game. Once his schoolwork is done and the game is done, he'll dive into that with Cut and his family.

[devildeac]

Daniel did answer a couple of questions about his draft thoughts. Here is the quote

“I’ve probably started to think about it more than I did before the Wake game,” Jones said. “I still have a whole lot of work to do and thought to do. I’m not anywhere near a decision there. I’m not sure I’ve done all the necessary homework to figured that out. Thought about it more. Not sure how close I am to really making a decision at this point.”

From what I know, he's compartmentalizing this very well. Never considered taking part in senior day activities. He's finishing up his degree this month so end of semester classwork is very important. He also wants Duke to finish this season strongly. As one of the captains, he's taking that leadership role seriously. He's very nonchalant about the NFL stuff, for now.

Because the coaching staff hit the road recruiting the morning after the Wake debacle, DJ and Cut haven't had a chance have the serious conversations they are going to have with the NFL feedback. I tend to believe he won't make a decision before the bowl game. Once his schoolwork is done and the game is done, he'll dive into that with Cut and his family.

More great info! Thanks again, Steve!

[HereBeforeCoachK]

DJ quote WRT skipping the bowl:

“I certainly plan on playing and I will play in the bowl game,” Jones said. “I’ve never really considered that as something I’d want to do. We are going to finish this season.”

You're right that the article really doesn't address his draft considerations/prognostications and I'm happy those guys mentioned all stated they want to play in the bowl game.


I am too, and it seems to me, after observing the past two seasons, the NFL scouts and prognosticators are up and down on Daniel. Early last year, some buzz....then nothing during the losing streak. Early this year, some buzz....then with injury and more losing, it died down. He explodes on the cheats, and there's buzz.....then the Clemson game and the Wake situation....seems to die down again.

[budwom]

Generally you can't believe what the scouts have to say...not because they're dishonest, but because they don't like to publicize what guys they really like, who might be a sleeper, etc,..

[House G]

For the few and the proud who are coming to Shreveport for the I-Bowl, I want to offer my assistance in any way necessary. I know Shreveport isn’t a destination city and I know the I-Bowl isn’t what most of us hoped for but it is a bowl and I think Temple is pretty good this year. And on the bright side, you don’t have to say you’re going to the weed eater bowl (former sponsor). In case you don’t know, there is an interesting story behind the Walk-Ons sponsor which relates to college hoops: https://walk-ons.com/story.

Here is a little background on Shreveport:
Shreveport is in the northwest corner of the state, about ten miles from the Texas border, and much closer to Dallas (180 miles) than Baton Rouge or New Orleans. Shreveport is located on one side of the Red River and Bossier City sits on the other side. Bossier City is home to Barksdale Air Force Base where the Eighth Air Force is headquartered (mostly B52s). During the Civil War, Shreveport was a Confederate stronghold and briefly became the Confederate capital after Robert E. Lee’s surrender. Civil War battles were fought all over this area (Vicksburg, Mansfield).
In 1933, Bonnie and Clyde were killed just down the road https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/bonnie-and-clyde
Shreveport has a rich musical history and the Louisiana Hayride (held at Shreveport’s Municipal Auditorium and broadcast on KWKH radio) was where many country music acts got their start (Hank Williams, Johnny Cash, Jim Reeves, Johnny Horton, Floyd Cramer, Slim Whitman, etc.). https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nahHWEOpCvo In 1954, Elvis Presley (who was 19 yo) made his debut at the Louisiana Hayride https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bLaPnpjw-pc.
Hirsch Coliseum, the domed venue right next to Independence Stadium, was built a long time ago and has hosted concerts, basketball games, rodeos, etc for many years. One of my favorite trivia questions relates to this venue: In 1957, a ten year old boy from a tiny town in East Texas (close to Shreveport) was at a Lawrence Welk concert with his parents at the Hirsch. Eight years later he returned to see a rock band there. Many years after that, the band he went to see was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The boy went on to himself become a member of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as a member of one of the greatest bands of all time. He gave the induction speech for the first band. Who was the boy and who were the bands? Answer:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7ioQa26gDc4&t=9s
Shreveport has had its share of prominent athletes and a plethora of quarterbacks:
Terry Bradshaw (Steelers)
Joe Ferguson (Bills)
David Woodley (super bowl QB Dolphins)
Stan Humphries (Chargers)
Bert Jones (Colts) grew up right down the road in Ruston
Doug Williams (Redskins) played at Grambling (by Ruston)
And although he is not from here, Doug Pederson (Eagles coach) was the head coach of tiny Calvary Baptist Academy in Shreveport from 2005-2008 (I know that’s hard to believe).
——-
Robert Parish (Celtics)
——-
Hal Sutton
David Toms
——-
A couple of things you may not know about Bradshaw. In high school, he was the national record holder in the javelin (https://www.golfchannel.com/video/feherty-terry-bradshaws-other-surprising-sport). This was what he was known for. When he went to Louisiana Tech and played football, he was initially the backup QB to this guy lol (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yFlr19bhncQ).
———
Here is a list of some of the casinos and restaurants around town:
Casinos:
https://www.caesars.com/horseshoe-bossier-city?utm_campaign=GMB&utm_source=google&utm_medium=local&utm_term=HorseshoeBossierCity&utm_content=bar
https://www.eldoradoshreveport.com
https://www.samstownshreveport.com
https://www.margaritavillebossiercity.com
Restaurants:
https://www.superiorssteakhouse.com
http://www.2johnsrestaurant.com
https://www.caesars.com/horseshoe-bossier-city/restaurants/jack-binions-steakhouse#.XAk5lopMGhB
https://www.eldoradoshreveport.com/venue/restaurants/the-vintage/
http://www.chiantirestaurant.net
https://m.facebook.com/The-Mabry-House-254787381197993/
http://bellafresca.com
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https://walk-ons.com/food
http://www.silverstarsmokehouse.com
https://m.facebook.com/Country-Tavern-Barbecue-113407878692162/
https://m.facebook.com/silverstargrille/
http://marilynns-place.com
https://www.athenashreveport.com
http://cushsgrocery.com
https://www.frankslakitchen.com
https://elcaboverde.com
https://www.superiorgrill.com
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https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g40424-d410832-Reviews-Strawn_s_Eat_Shop_Too-Shreveport_Louisiana.html
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https://m.facebook.com/fairfieldgrocery6955
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http://www.greatraftbrewing.com
https://m.facebook.com/RedRiverBeer
————————
http://www.rwnaf.org

My personal favorites would be:
Breakfast—Strawn’s on Youree. Nothing healthy here but one of the local favorites
Lunch—For a high end lunch, try superior steakhouse. If you’re still here Friday, go to 2Johns right across the Red River (I know the owner so I can help you here). Superior Grill (Mexican food) is the most popular restaurant in town and is great for lunch or dinner—try to go early to avoid the wait. You can also eat late there so it would be a fun place to go after the game. One word of caution—the generic frozen margaritas come out of a machine and are killers. I prefer their top shelf.
Walk-Ons is a sports bar and is quite popular.
Fairfield grocery and Cush’s grocery are both very good. Cush’s almost always has gumbo.
Dinner:
There are 2 high end casino restaurants that are good—Jack Binion’s Steakhouse at the Horseshoe and The Vintage at the El Dorado.
I prefer:
2Johns has good food as does the Superior Steakhouse. The latter is a bigger venue with a fabulous bar, wine selection, cigar bar, etc.
The food at Bella Fresca is good.
Chianti’s is a popular Italian restaurant.
Frank’s Louisiana Kitchen and El Cabo Verde are less expensive and popular and in the south part of town.
Expect to drop some coin at some of these so check out their websites/menu.

Feel free to message me if you have questions! Hope some of you can make it!

[devildeac]

For the few and the proud who are coming to Shreveport for the I-Bowl, I want to offer my assistance in any way necessary. I know Shreveport isn’t a destination city and I know the I-Bowl isn’t what most of us hoped for but it is a bowl and I think Temple is pretty good this year. And on the bright side, you don’t have to say you’re going to the weed eater bowl (former sponsor). In case you don’t know, there is an interesting story behind the Walk-Ons sponsor which relates to college hoops: https://walk-ons.com/story.

Here is a little background on Shreveport:
Shreveport is in the northwest corner of the state, about ten miles from the Texas border, and much closer to Dallas (180 miles) than Baton Rouge or New Orleans. Shreveport is located on one side of the Red River and Bossier City sits on the other side. Bossier City is home to Barksdale Air Force Base where the Eighth Air Force is headquartered (mostly B52s). During the Civil War, Shreveport was a Confederate stronghold and briefly became the Confederate capital after Robert E. Lee’s surrender. Civil War battles were fought all over this area (Vicksburg, Mansfield).
In 1933, Bonnie and Clyde were killed just down the road https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/bonnie-and-clyde
Shreveport has a rich musical history and the Louisiana Hayride (held at Shreveport’s Municipal Auditorium and broadcast on KWKH radio) was where many country music acts got their start (Hank Williams, Johnny Cash, Jim Reeves, Johnny Horton, Floyd Cramer, Slim Whitman, etc.). https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nahHWEOpCvo In 1954, Elvis Presley (who was 19 yo) made his debut at the Louisiana Hayride https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bLaPnpjw-pc.
Hirsch Coliseum, the domed venue right next to Independence Stadium, was built a long time ago and has hosted concerts, basketball games, rodeos, etc for many years. One of my favorite trivia questions relates to this venue: In 1957, a ten year old boy from a tiny town in East Texas (close to Shreveport) was at a Lawrence Welk concert with his parents at the Hirsch. Eight years later he returned to see a rock band there. Many years after that, the band he went to see was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The boy went on to himself become a member of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as a member of one of the greatest bands of all time. He gave the induction speech for the first band. Who was the boy and who were the bands? Answer:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7ioQa26gDc4&t=9s
Shreveport has had its share of prominent athletes and a plethora of quarterbacks:
Terry Bradshaw (Steelers)
Joe Ferguson (Bills)
David Woodley (super bowl QB Dolphins)
Stan Humphries (Chargers)
Bert Jones (Colts) grew up right down the road in Ruston
Doug Williams (Redskins) played at Grambling (by Ruston)
And although he is not from here, Doug Pederson (Eagles coach) was the head coach of tiny Calvary Baptist Academy in Shreveport from 2005-2008 (I know that’s hard to believe).
——-
Robert Parish (Celtics)
——-
Hal Sutton
David Toms
——-
A couple of things you may not know about Bradshaw. In high school, he was the national record holder in the javelin (https://www.golfchannel.com/video/feherty-terry-bradshaws-other-surprising-sport). This was what he was known for. When he went to Louisiana Tech and played football, he was initially the backup QB to this guy lol (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yFlr19bhncQ).
———
Here is a list of some of the casinos and restaurants around town:
Casinos:
https://www.caesars.com/horseshoe-bossier-city?utm_campaign=GMB&utm_source=google&utm_medium=local&utm_term=HorseshoeBossierCity&utm_content=bar
https://www.eldoradoshreveport.com
https://www.samstownshreveport.com
https://www.margaritavillebossiercity.com
Restaurants:
https://www.superiorssteakhouse.com
http://www.2johnsrestaurant.com
https://www.caesars.com/horseshoe-bossier-city/restaurants/jack-binions-steakhouse#.XAk5lopMGhB
https://www.eldoradoshreveport.com/venue/restaurants/the-vintage/
http://www.chiantirestaurant.net
https://m.facebook.com/The-Mabry-House-254787381197993/
http://bellafresca.com
————————
https://walk-ons.com/food
http://www.silverstarsmokehouse.com
https://m.facebook.com/Country-Tavern-Barbecue-113407878692162/
https://m.facebook.com/silverstargrille/
http://marilynns-place.com
https://www.athenashreveport.com
http://cushsgrocery.com
https://www.frankslakitchen.com
https://elcaboverde.com
https://www.superiorgrill.com
————————
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g40424-d410832-Reviews-Strawn_s_Eat_Shop_Too-Shreveport_Louisiana.html
————————
https://m.facebook.com/fairfieldgrocery6955
————————
http://www.greatraftbrewing.com
https://m.facebook.com/RedRiverBeer
————————
http://www.rwnaf.org

My personal favorites would be:
Breakfast—Strawn’s on Youree. Nothing healthy here but one of the local favorites
Lunch—For a high end lunch, try superior steakhouse. If you’re still here Friday, go to 2Johns right across the Red River (I know the owner so I can help you here). Superior Grill (Mexican food) is the most popular restaurant in town and is great for lunch or dinner—try to go early to avoid the wait. You can also eat late there so it would be a fun place to go after the game. One word of caution—the generic frozen margaritas come out of a machine and are killers. I prefer their top shelf.
Walk-Ons is a sports bar and is quite popular.
Fairfield grocery and Cush’s grocery are both very good. Cush’s almost always has gumbo.
Dinner:
There are 2 high end casino restaurants that are good—Jack Binion’s Steakhouse at the Horseshoe and The Vintage at the El Dorado.
I prefer:
2Johns has good food as does the Superior Steakhouse. The latter is a bigger venue with a fabulous bar, wine selection, cigar bar, etc.
The food at Bella Fresca is good.
Chianti’s is a popular Italian restaurant.
Frank’s Louisiana Kitchen and El Cabo Verde are less expensive and popular and in the south part of town.
Expect to drop some coin at some of these so check out their websites/menu.

Feel free to message me if you have questions! Hope some of you can make it!

If I didn't have two days off earlier in the week, a full/over-flowing schedule in the office this day and Friday, this fabulous post would have convinced me to attend this bowl and visit Shreveport.
Thanks for taking a huge amount of time to post this!!

[OldPhiKap]

Thanks HouseG !!!!! Great info.

Hope to make the trip, should know soon!

[Reilly]

Temple's coach being considered for GT job, per the internet.

[weezie]

For the few and the proud who are coming to Shreveport for the I-Bowl, I want to offer my assistance in any way necessary...

And he means it! House G is a personal favorite of mine. A fine man who, if he says get the top shelf, follow his sage advice and do so.

Well done!

[budwom]

Temple's coach being considered for GT job, per the internet.

In my perfect, imaginary world, our lads will be focused on the game and theirs will not.

[chrishoke]

I would love to go to the game but can't this year. I did buy a $50 ticket from the GoDuke site and donated it to put a deserving local fan in the stands with a Duke hat on. I hope others can find some small way to support our Devils if you are not able to attend in person. Go Duke! Side benefit - there is no handling charge for purchasing donated tickets.

[Tripping William]

In my perfect, imaginary world, our lads will be focused on the game and theirs will not.

You may get your wish. GT apparently has hired Temple coach Geoff Collins (https://www.si.com/college-football/2018/12/06/geoff-collins-georgia-tech-head-coach-temple?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sportsillustrated&xid=socialflow_facebook_si&fbclid=IwAR1_h6ZAQ1o7M7xzAgzLtymGKrkk7WIFwmPgJ87z3 lnPtM-hSVsHTVtn2gk). The story does not say whether Collins will coach in the bowl game.

[chrishoke]

Sources are saying that Ed Foley will be named interim coach for the bowl game.

[BigWayne]

In my perfect, imaginary world, our lads will be focused on the game and theirs will not.

I went to a game in 1989 like that.

[peloton]

I went to a game in 1989 like that.

Thanks for the unpleasant memory, BigWayne ;). I was at the game and after awhile almost wished that I hadn't made the trip down (further) south.

[budwom]

I went to a game in 1989 like that.

Way to ruin my day. Yup, I know that game, part of the reason I brought this up. Can't help but think the Temple minds would be wandering.
(I never begrudged SS leaving Duke, but I did (and do) begrudge his total lack of preparation for that game.

[Reilly]

...
Shreveport has had its share of prominent athletes and a plethora of quarterbacks:
Terry Bradshaw (Steelers)
Joe Ferguson (Bills)
David Woodley (super bowl QB Dolphins)
Stan Humphries (Chargers)
Bert Jones (Colts) grew up right down the road in Ruston
Doug Williams (Redskins) played at Grambling (by Ruston)
And although he is not from here, Doug Pederson (Eagles coach) was the head coach of tiny Calvary Baptist Academy in Shreveport from 2005-2008 (I know that’s hard to believe).
...

Don't forget Patrick Ramsey of Redskins head-butting fame ... also from Ruston ...the man who beat out Cut's Heath Shuler with the Redskins ...

[Reilly]

... Can't help but think the Temple minds would be wandering ...

Spurrier hung out through the bowl and our minds wandered; in 2012 Cincy had an interim coach and seemed pretty focused; Cut took over Ole Miss in Dec 1998 and won ...

I would guess the most commonly-occurring fact pattern is the 2012 Cincy/2019 Temple one ... where a head coach bolts before a bowl but leaves assistants behind to run the show ... would be interesting to see how often that has happened in the past ten years and whether the team is considered to have under-performed relative to expectation in the bowl ...

[budwom]

Spurrier hung out through the bowl and our minds wandered; in 2012 Cincy had an interim coach and seemed pretty focused; Cut took over Ole Miss in Dec 1998 and won ...

I would guess the most commonly-occurring fact pattern is the 2012 Cincy/2019 Temple one ... where a head coach bolts before a bowl but leaves assistants behind to run the show ... would be interesting to see how often that has happened in the past ten years and whether the team is considered to have under-performed relative to expectation in the bowl ...

yeah, Spurrier's body hung around, but his mind certainly wasn't in it...hope this works out well for us. I'd have to think there'll be uncertainty at Temple unless they elevate an assistant coach into the job permanently, which they may well might.

[Reilly]

The interim Temple coach is the brother of former BC QB Glenn Foley: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Foley

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Way to ruin my day. Yup, I know that game, part of the reason I brought this up. Can't help but think the Temple minds would be wandering.
(I never begrudged SS leaving Duke, but I did (and do) begrudge his total lack of preparation for that game.

...the main thing I begrudge is his helping Barry Wilson get the job. Wilson was terrible, immediately went about dismantling the air ball passing attack...even as he inherited many of the players. I am ticked at Wilson for that....

Meanwhile, I think this is two coaching losses at Temple in the last 3 seasons. I think Ruhle left for Baylor after the 16 season.......

[budwom]

...the main thing I begrudge is his helping Barry Wilson get the job. Wilson was terrible, immediately went about dismantling the air ball passing attack...even as he inherited many of the players. I am ticked at Wilson for that...

Meanwhile, I think this is two coaching losses at Temple in the last 3 seasons. I think Ruhle left for Baylor after the 16 season....

One of the great mistakes a lot of athletic directors make is belief in the Osmosis Theory of Coaching, i.e. by sitting near or next to a great coach, an assistant somehow becomes imbued with the magic of the master.
Works sometimes, but not that often. (I'm looking at you, Bill Guthridge, though that decision was cleverly made by Dean himself).

[chrishoke]

Spurrier also recommended Carl Franks.

[arnie]

Spurrier also recommended Carl Franks.

Yes, but Alleva hired Franks without climbing out of his chair to search for another coach. That hire is all on Admiral Joe, particularly since Spurrier was 8-9 years removed from Duke.

[Reilly]

... all on Admiral Joe ...

"Sail with the pilot, at the wheel, on a ship that's ..."

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Spurrier also recommended Carl Franks.

This is true, and Frank's tenure was a disaster, but Franks wasn't taking over a rolling train with two more years of Dave Brown and Randy Cuthbert and so on........Wilson's big crime to me was not only losing, but doing so while changing the very offensive mindset that had lifted Duke up under Spurrier. There is a failure to create a winning team...but a worse crime to ruin one.

[rasputin]

"Sail with the pilot, at the wheel, on a ship that's ..."

"sturdy from its mast to its keel"

[Bob Green]

Duke practiced today and Coach Cutcliffe spoke to the media afterwards:

http://www.goduke.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=4200&id=6302839

[Reilly]

Duke practiced today and Coach Cutcliffe spoke to the media afterwards:

http://www.goduke.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=4200&id=6302839

Thanks. That was a good watch -- and I liked the end.

[chrishoke]

Thanks. That was a good watch -- and I liked the end.

Out of character - and great.

[Reilly]

Football banquet cancelled: http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=22672&SPID=1843&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=211783199

[ChrisP]

Football banquet cancelled: http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=22672&SPID=1843&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=211783199

In the future, could you please consider adding a little context to a post like this? For instance, simply adding the words "due to weather" at the end of your statement about the banquet being cancelled would have provided some clarity as to the reason why. After reading what you wrote and before clicking on the linked story, I feared the event had been cancelled due to some unrest or something in the football program. Maybe it's just me, but after that awful beat down by a so-so Wake team to end the season, I'm concerned about the state of football team and seeing stuff like this on the board without proper context just plays into that.

[martydoesntfoul]

...the main thing I begrudge is his helping Barry Wilson get the job. Wilson was terrible, immediately went about dismantling the air ball passing attack...even as he inherited many of the players. I am ticked at Wilson for that...

Wilson had the nerve to show up in Indy for the ‘91 Final Four. I was tempted to relay the above message to him personally as he was exiting a restaurant, but decided discretion was the better part of valor. Though truth be told, I’d be lying if I said I haven’t regretted my constraint from time to time over the years.

[richmclean]

Don't forget Patrick Ramsey of Redskins head-butting fame ... also from Ruston ...the man who beat out Cut's Heath Shuler with the Redskins ...

The head-butter was one Gus Frerotte from PA. Ramsey from Ruston/Tulane was drafted 8 years later to put out the Skins QB dumpster fire which has lasted to date.

But carry on..

[arnie]

The head-butter was one Gus Frerotte from PA. Ramsey from Ruston/Tulane was drafted 8 years later to put out the Skins QB dumpster fire which has lasted to date.

But carry on..

I always felt Heath Shuler’s holdout beat out Heath Shuler and allowed Gus to play ahead of him. Back in the day, the Redskins had a reputation for opening up their pocketbook and Shuler tried to take more than deserved. Shuler was a total bust as an NFL QB.

[Reilly]

The head-butter was one Gus Frerotte from PA. Ramsey from Ruston/Tulane was drafted 8 years later to put out the Skins QB dumpster fire which has lasted to date.

But carry on..

Thank you for the correction, and apologies to "young Patrick" as Spurrier would call him. Gus head-butted wall; Patrick was from Bert Jones's hometown.

I don't know how I could confuse the two:

Gus - 1994-98 Redskins - 19-26-1 w/ Skins - 6-3/237 white guy - Tulsa - #12
Pat - 2002-05 Redskins - 10-14 w/ Skins - 6-2/225 white guy - Tulane - #11

They both seemed earnest and likable and hard-working, and their lack of success with the Redskins perhaps due more to what was not around them.

[peloton]

Duke practiced today and Coach Cutcliffe spoke to the media afterwards:

http://www.goduke.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=4200&id=6302839

I apologize up front as I believe this may have come up before, but you have to pay for a BDN subscription to view any of these NeuLion videos, correct? I can't view any but I know there may other tech related reasons - thanks.

[Bob Green]

I apologize up front as I believe this may have come up before, but you have to pay for a BDN subscription to view any of these NeuLion videos, correct? I can't view any but I know there may other tech related reasons - thanks.

All the videos that I post links to are free. I do not have a BDN subscription. My suggestion to you is to try a different browser - I use Google Chrome these days.

[Acymetric]

All the videos that I post links to are free. I do not have a BDN subscription. My suggestion to you is to try a different browser - I use Google Chrome these days.

I've had problems with that media player across a bunch of different browsers/platforms over the years and am not a fan of it. They are free, though, as long as you can get them to load.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

I apologize up front as I believe this may have come up before, but you have to pay for a BDN subscription to view any of these NeuLion videos, correct? I can't view any but I know there may other tech related reasons - thanks.

In my experience, some are and some are not paid. This one was not paid...I watched it on Safari no prob

[Reilly]

Gambling on sports not yet legal/offered at Shreveport casinos.

[devildeac]

Gambling on sports not yet legal/offered at Shreveport casinos.

It most certainly is if you do it on the "degenerates" thread.

:o

[Reilly]

Bowl announcement party was today: https://www.ktbs.com/news/incaseyoumissedit/walk-on-s-independence-bowl-holds-team-announcement-party/article_fd754076-fcf3-11e8-97e6-c3291ecd1b68.html

[Reilly]

Bit more on the party including video of Temple coach: https://www.arklatexhomepage.com/sports/walk-on-s-independence-bowl-team-announcement-party/1651920338

[Reilly]

Temple's going to be tougher than NIU, based on coach-enthusisam-for-bowl: https://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/temple-coach-ed-foley-is-the-most-excited-human-to-ever-visit-shreveport-louisiana

[Reilly]

Team hotel: Hilton Shreveport -- https://book.anthonytravel.com/d/duke-blue-devils?DB_OEM_ID=4200&_ga=2.82082966.1856559858.1544591222-933443532.1507385318

Feeling bad about this game ... we finished poorly ... Temple is senior-laden ... Temple going to fourth straight bowl ... we couldn't have our end of season football banquet ... Cut couldn't even travel to Shreveport for the Monday announcement party ... Temple seems fired up (at least its coach does) ... all the emotional intangibles, for now, seem to not be going our way ... hope getting some health will bring a renewed sense of energy for the Duke side ... totally different than last year where one could feel the NIU indifference from their coach while we're recording Motown Christmas songs that go viral ...

[DevilHorse]

Temple's going to be tougher than NIU, based on coach-enthusisam-for-bowl: https://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/temple-coach-ed-foley-is-the-most-excited-human-to-ever-visit-shreveport-louisiana

On the way home from work today, I caught Jim Rome's one minute opinion on the sports world.
He says to forget about this bowl and that, but it is the Independence Bowl that is the one to watch.
Duke vs. Temple because of the Temple interim Coach.
He plays a snippet of the public pep-talk.
And says that Temple should hire the guy.

I don't know if the guy can coach, but he can certainly get some attention.

Larry
DevilHorse

[HereBeforeCoachK]

On the way home from work today, I caught Jim Rome's one minute opinion on the sports world.
He says to forget about this bowl and that, but it is the Independence Bowl that is the one to watch.
Duke vs. Temple because of the Temple interim Coach.
He plays a snippet of the public pep-talk.
And says that Temple should hire the guy.

I don't know if the guy can coach, but he can certainly get some attention.

Larry
DevilHorse

HAH, used to listen to him on some station in RDU when he came on....."the jungle.......have a take, don't suck....."

[Reilly]

On the way home from work today, I caught Jim Rome's one minute opinion on the sports world.
He says to forget about this bowl and that, but it is the Independence Bowl that is the one to watch.
Duke vs. Temple because of the Temple interim Coach.
He plays a snippet of the public pep-talk.
And says that Temple should hire the guy.

I don't know if the guy can coach, but he can certainly get some attention.

Larry
DevilHorse

On the DC sportstalk radio this morning, they played the pep-talk and said the Redskins should hire the guy.

[Devil in the Blue Dress]

Details still being settled. Announcement to be made at press conference tomorrow (Thursday).
https://temple-news.com/report-temple-football-finalizing-deal-to-make-manny-diaz-next-football-coach/

[Reilly]

From Chris Fallica on Twitter: "David Cutcliffe is 8-2 ATS in bowl games as a head coach (4-1 at Duke, 4-1 at Ole Miss). As an underdog, Cutcliffe’s teams are 6-1 ATS with four outright wins. The one ATS loss – the unmentionable events in 2012."


Also from Fallica, answering -- to a degree -- a question asked upthread: "Last year there were 6 teams in early bowl games (pre-New Year's Eve) that entered bowls in midst of a coaching change (FSU, A&M, Oregon, UCLA, Ariz St, SMU). Those 6 went 1-5. Only FSU, which was a massive favorite vs USM won. App St, Utah St, Temple all fit mold this year."

[budwom]

Who knows, maybe the rah rah interim coach is less rah rah now that Diaz was hired instead of him...one can hope.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Who knows, maybe the rah rah interim coach is less rah rah now that Diaz was hired instead of him...one can hope.

My first thought exactly.....this hiring seems to kind of take the air out of the rah rah balloon.....it's like a current flowing in the other direction. It's a bit of a confusing signal to the players, regardless of how the interim (and maybe new) coach try and downplay it.

As we saw in the WF game, intangibles can play a massive role in the outcome of games. They always do in bowl games (the dis-respected team almost always beats the power team in a bowl when that power team expected to be in the playoffs, etc...).

This makes me feel instantly better about the intangibles. At least for now.

[Reilly]

Who knows, maybe the rah rah interim coach is less rah rah now that Diaz was hired instead of him...one can hope.

I guess Foley did interview for the job: https://247sports.com/college/temple/Article/Temple-football-coach-Ed-Foley-126050709/

[du_bb1]

I've had problems with that media player across a bunch of different browsers/platforms over the years and am not a fan of it. They are free, though, as long as you can get them to load.

I had the same problem but when I deleted ad blocker for different reason-voila, now can watch them fine. Does this make me a 'techie'???

[AtlDuke72]

My first thought exactly....this hiring seems to kind of take the air out of the rah rah balloon....it's like a current flowing in the other direction. It's a bit of a confusing signal to the players, regardless of how the interim (and maybe new) coach try and downplay it.

As we saw in the WF game, intangibles can play a massive role in the outcome of games. They always do in bowl games (the dis-respected team almost always beats the power team in a bowl when that power team expected to be in the playoffs, etc...).

This makes me feel instantly better about the intangibles. At least for now.

The Blue Devils had be ready because that guy will have Temple fired up even if he is only head coach for one game. His talk almost got me to volunteer to play for Temple!

[CameronBlue]

Team hotel: Hilton Shreveport -- https://book.anthonytravel.com/d/duke-blue-devils?DB_OEM_ID=4200&_ga=2.82082966.1856559858.1544591222-933443532.1507385318

Feeling bad about this game ... we finished poorly ... Temple is senior-laden ... Temple going to fourth straight bowl ... we couldn't have our end of season football banquet ... Cut couldn't even travel to Shreveport for the Monday announcement party ... Temple seems fired up (at least its coach does) ... all the emotional intangibles, for now, seem to not be going our way ... hope getting some health will bring a renewed sense of energy for the Duke side ... totally different than last year where one could feel the NIU indifference from their coach while we're recording Motown Christmas songs that go viral ...

Well I guess that massive asteroid that's going to obliterate all lifeforms on Earth, just can't get here fast enough huh?

[Acymetric]

Team hotel: Hilton Shreveport -- https://book.anthonytravel.com/d/duke-blue-devils?DB_OEM_ID=4200&_ga=2.82082966.1856559858.1544591222-933443532.1507385318

Feeling bad about this game ... we finished poorly ... Temple is senior-laden ... Temple going to fourth straight bowl ... we couldn't have our end of season football banquet ... Cut couldn't even travel to Shreveport for the Monday announcement party ... Temple seems fired up (at least its coach does) ... all the emotional intangibles, for now, seem to not be going our way ... hope getting some health will bring a renewed sense of energy for the Duke side ... totally different than last year where one could feel the NIU indifference from their coach while we're recording Motown Christmas songs that go viral ...

Why couldn't Cut travel for the announcement party (or was the reason not announced)?

[TruBlu]

Why couldn't Cut travel for the announcement party (or was the reason not announced)?

Since it was on Monday, Dec 10th, my guess is that it was weather related travel from RDU.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

The Blue Devils had be ready because that guy will have Temple fired up even if he is only head coach for one game. His talk almost got me to volunteer to play for Temple!

You must've misunderstood my point. I know he was all rah rah fired up in his presser. At that time, he probably thought he'd have a shot at the head job. I certainly bet he didn't think a coaching decision would be made this soon. There's a new guy now....in the mix...and even if he's not involved in bowl prep, he'll probably be talking to existing assistants and so on through the process. This throws a new dynamic into it.

If you're going to make the case that the Temple interim coach's enthusiasm is a good intangible for Temple - and I agree it could be - then you have to recognize another intangible - the potential impact of this announcement now. I think dynamic B mitigates dynamic A to an extent.

That said of course Duke needs to be ready. We saw last time out what "not ready" looks like.....

[devildeac]

Why couldn't Cut travel for the announcement party (or was the reason not announced)?

Unspecified lower body injury, cone of silence...

(kidding)

[Acymetric]

Since it was on Monday, Dec 10th, my guess is that it was weather related travel from RDU.

Duh...reminds me of when I wondered why a client in Houston was having server issues and hadn't responded to get the problem fixed only to realize much later that their server was probably underwater (during Harvey).

[budwom]

Unspecified lower body injury, cone of silence...

(kidding)

ha, now that's funny.

[Reilly]

Early weather forecast for Shreveport 12/27

Thu DEC 27 Showers
57°44°
Cloudy with occasional rain showers. High 57F. Winds SSW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50%.

[AtlDuke72]

You must've misunderstood my point. I know he was all rah rah fired up in his presser. At that time, he probably thought he'd have a shot at the head job. I certainly bet he didn't think a coaching decision would be made this soon. There's a new guy now...in the mix...and even if he's not involved in bowl prep, he'll probably be talking to existing assistants and so on through the process. This throws a new dynamic into it.

If you're going to make the case that the Temple interim coach's enthusiasm is a good intangible for Temple - and I agree it could be - then you have to recognize another intangible - the potential impact of this announcement now. I think dynamic B mitigates dynamic A to an extent.

That said of course Duke needs to be ready. We saw last time out what "not ready" looks like....
I wasn’t making any comment about your post. Just saying this guy gave a great talk and I think he will have his team all fired up even though somebody else got the permanent job. .

[tteettimes]

Temple scores a lot of points
We give up a lot of points....
Is Temple better than Wake Forest?????

[Reilly]

GoDuke (the magazine) bowl issue: https://indd.adobe.com/view/1d9109d2-ec40-4dd5-8350-9d350e3b86d9

[Reilly]

Temple scores a lot of points
We give up a lot of points...
Is Temple better than Wake Forest?????

Per the SRS, yes. https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/years/2018-ratings.html

Temple now #48, and Duke #49 (and WFU #69). Temple and Duke flipped spots since 12/2 ... maybe Temple opponent Navy sticking with Army caused that flip?

On the individual OSRS and DSRS numbers, it looks like the strongest units in the bowl game are, in order:

Duke's defense
Temple's offense
Temple's defense
Duke's offense

If our D is as healthy as can be -- BH and JGH flying around -- that would help. Would love for our D to be the strongest unit on the field that day.
If our O can do more than the 6.5 ppg it put up on average the last two weeks, that would help. I hope we see some QH packages.
I'm scared of getting crushed in the kicking games -- Temple has a good return man.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Temple scores a lot of points
We give up a lot of points...
Is Temple better than Wake Forest?????

Temple does score a lot of points. And Duke gave up a lot, but there's a chance Duke's D is much healthier than it's been since early season, when they did not give up a lot of points. I don't think there's much chance we put the defense on the field that shut down NW.....but I think Duke will put a better D on the field than late season.

And yes, I'd say Temple is better than WF. That said, I'm not sure Temple will play as well in the bowl game as WF did against Duke. And I am pretty confident Duke won't play anything like they did against WF.

[Reilly]

Mardi Gras preview parade route: http://independencebowl.org/bowl-week-events/

[Indoor66]

Mardi Gras preview parade route: http://independencebowl.org/bowl-week-events/

Looks to be quite the soirée.

[Bob Green]

GoDuke.com has an article up discussing young leaders Deon Jackson and Leonard Johnson:

http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=22672&SPID=1843&DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=211783956&DB_OEM_ID=4200


Deon Jackson and Leonard Johnson are just two examples of young leadership on the 2018 Duke football team. The classmates are in their second years at Duke, Jackson as a true sophomore and Johnson as a redshirt freshman. Both have played enormous roles this season, and with Duke’s appearance in the Walk-On’s Independence Bowl quickly approaching, their coaches will look for them to lead one final time this season.

[chrishoke]

Nice GoDuke article on our senior captain Ben Humphreys. I'm really going to miss this guy and his family!
http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=211783967&DB_OEM_ID=4200

[johnb]

Great photo from last year's bowl, courtesy of USA Today:

8891

http://www.tiebreaker.com/most-perfectly-timed-sports-photos?utm_source=talas&utm_medium=internal_cr&utm_content=feed&uuid=12c31c16-c837-4783-907d-65dfda30a866

[Bob Green]

The Independence Bowl digital guide is now available at GoDuke.com:

https://adobeindd.com/view/publications/7deeee83-8f0e-42fe-b1e6-6464c098c10b/gnms/publication-web-resources/pdf/DukeBowl18.pdf

[OldPhiKap]

Sadly, this will be the first Duke bowl game I have missed since Texas Tech in ‘89. But I will get a tattoo anyway to join in spirit. Pictures to be posted on game day.

(NephewPK and his dad NCBro-in-lawPK will be there, both of whom are regulars at home games and are the truly dedicated ones. My fandom pales in comparison to them both).

[Devil in the Blue Dress]

Sadly, this will be the first zduke bowl game I have missed since Texas Tech in ‘89. But I will get a tattoo anyway to join in spirit. Pictures to be posted on game day.

Rolling with the Tide, are you? If so, you'll be with some of our cousins.;)

[Reilly]

Sadly, this will be the first Duke bowl game I have missed since Texas Tech in ‘89 ...

I'm sure you drummed your manicured nails somewhat thoughtfully on the granite counter in your chef's kitchen contemplating whether you might go, before a slow smile creeped across you face when you realized nothing says "effete coastal disdain" like totally skipping the bowl. Not even bothering to show up -- brilliant! And all I am planning to do is squint and shake my head quickly "no" if some Shreveporter (Shreveportian?) tries to shake my hand.

[OldPhiKap]

I'm sure you drummed your manicured nails somewhat thoughtfully on the granite counter in your chef's kitchen contemplating whether you might go, before a slow smile creeped across you face when you realized nothing says "effete coastal disdain" like totally skipping the bowl. Not even bothering to show up -- brilliant! And all I am planning to do is squint and shake my head quickly "no" if some Shreveporter (Shreveportian?) tries to shake my hand.

I love Louisiana and would love to explore Shriveport actually. 1:30 on a Thursday though means I am out of the office a whole week given the Monday/Tuesday holiday. Literally scheduled the only time that would force me to miss it.

[Reilly]

... Texas Tech in ‘89 ...

Hah -- Chris Fowler was the sideline reporter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLSMdWqR5fY

I miss that shade of Duke blue -- that may be closer to Pantone 287, not sure. What shoulder pads.

Not sure I'm liking seeing a red team with a T name running all over the Devils.

[Reilly]

http://www.goduke.com/pdf9/5480477.pdf

[Reilly]

http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=22672&SPID=1843&DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=211783042

DJ (QB) MVP: "Jones, who also earned team MVP honors in 2016, joins Leo Hart (1969-70), Keith Stoneback (1973-74), Scottie Montgomery (1998-99), Mike Hart (2000-01) and John Talley (2005-06) as the multiple recipients in Duke history."

All other honorees listed at the link.

[Reilly]

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/article223433160.html

[Bob Green]

The article states Joe Giles-Harris is still day to day in regard to whether he is healthy enough to play in the bowl game. His availability would certainly be a big boost for Duke.

[budwom]

No word on Giles-Harris or Humphreys, such is the world of Duke football "updates." We'll know mid day on the 27th.

[OldPhiKap]

No word on Giles-Harris or Humphreys, such is the world of Duke football "updates." We'll know mid day on the 27th.

The cone of silence is strong.

[House G]

The forecast is for a 70% chance of rain on Thursday. The good news is that (1) we are used to playing in the rain and (2) forecasts that far out are frequently wrong.

[75Crazie]

The cone of silence is strong.
What?

[Bob Green]

Here is an article on Temple quarterback Anthony Russo:

http://www.philly.com/college-sports/temple/anthony-russo-tony-temple-football-quarterback-t-shirt-father-bishop-egan-archbishop-wood-20181221.html


He didn’t play in the regular-season finale, a 57-7 rout of UConn. Russo had hurt a thumb the previous game and had a cast on it. The cast is off, and he says he is ready to lead the Owls in the bowl game.

Russo threw for 13 TDs and 13 interceptions in 10 games. He threw multiple interceptions in four games including a season high three interceptions in a 24-17 overtime victory against Cincinnati.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4044122

My game anticipation is starting to build...:cool:

[Indoor66]

The forecast is for a 70% chance of rain on Thursday. The good news is that (1) we are used to playing in the rain and (2) forecasts that far out are frequently wrong.

I firmly believe that the rain issue is either 100% or 0%. You are either getting wet or you are not.

[Reilly]

The article states Joe Giles-Harris is still day to day in regard to whether he is healthy enough to play in the bowl game. His availability would certainly be a big boost for Duke.

Reading between the lines, reading JGH's quote, and putting perhaps my own cloudy perspective on it, I wasn't that encouraged about having JGH play at all, much less at full strength.

[Bob Green]

Reading between the lines, reading JGH's quote, and putting perhaps my own cloudy perspective on it, I wasn't that encouraged about having JGH play at all, much less at full strength.

As much as I want to disagree with you, I can't. :(

[Bob Green]

More Jim Sumner on the main page:

https://www.dukebasketballreport.com/2018/12/21/18151221/duke-football-prepping-for-christmas-in-lousiana-and-the-independence-bowl-cutcliffe-temple-football


“If they can run the football on you, you’re going to have a long afternoon,” Cutcliffe says. “We have to do the best we can. You’re not going to stop them. But what you have to do is minimize explosives, minimize their ability to just turn first down after first down after first down. If we were perfectly healthy, we would be extremely challenged by this team. So, this team will have to play well to compete with Temple.”

[OldPhiKap]

What?

I’ll call you on your shoe.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

As much as I want to disagree with you, I can't. :(

Either that or this is subterfuge...

Meanwhile, Memphis seems to be taking over on WF....the sub QB Newman is not looking very good for Wake.

[Reilly]

Duke football twitter activity:
- beads upon landing in LA;
- smiling Cut; and
- some "Rocky" video that seems will be a continuing story ...

[Reilly]

Sunday 10:40 am workout in Independence Stadium for Duke: https://www.shreveporttimes.com/story/sports/college/2018/12/22/dukes-bowl-arrival-celebrated-mardi-gras-beads/2399110002/

[Reilly]

Duke now #48 and Temple #50 in SRS: https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/years/2018-ratings.html (guessing Army big win helped Duke)

In Sagarin, Temple is #47 and Duke #61 but close (1.5-2.5 points separating; and in one measure -- Golden Mean -- Duke better than Temple): https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/

[budwom]

I bet we'll have a very good game plan, because Cut has consistently done that in previous bowls. The question though is whether we can execute or not.
Having a healthy QB and two healthy starting LBs would not hurt one bit.

[devildeac]

I bet we'll have a very good game plan, because Cut has consistently done that in previous bowls. The question though is whether we can execute or not.
Having a healthy QB and two healthy starting LBs would not hurt one bit.

And, 2 healthy RB...

[Bob Green]

And, 2 healthy RB...

Temple is a tough team to pass on so it will be imperative to come out and establish the running game to open up the passing game. A healthy Brittain Brown alongside Deon Jackson would be really helpful.

Edit: Temple #7 in the nation in Passing Yards Allowed:

http://stats.ncaa.org/rankings?sport_code=MFB&division=11

[HereBeforeCoachK]

I bet we'll have a very good game plan, because Cut has consistently done that in previous bowls. The question though is whether we can execute or not.
Having a healthy QB and two healthy starting LBs would not hurt one bit.

I think Cut has prepared the team very well for all 5 of his Duke bowls - face it, Duke was pretty big underdogs to Cincy, Texas A&M and Arizona State - and the Devils had a real chance to win all three of those games. They came out on fire against Cincy and A&M. And of course, they've won their last two....

[House G]

Cut talks about this week:
https://www.shreveporttimes.com/videos/sports/college/2018/12/23/duke-coach-david-cutcliffe-talks-before-sunday-practice/2403785002/

[Reilly]

Cut talks about this week:
https://www.shreveporttimes.com/videos/sports/college/2018/12/23/duke-coach-david-cutcliffe-talks-before-sunday-practice/2403785002/

Thanks for that. Cut's such a good guy.

Sun 12/23 = Tues practice
Mon 12/24 = Wed practice
Tues 12/25 = comm svc; church; Thurs prac
Wed 12/36 = Friday of game week/devilwin bday
Thurs 12/27 = Gameday Saturday

[devildeac]

Thanks for that. Cut's such a good guy.

Sun 12/23 = Tues practice
Mon 12/24 = Wed practice
Tues 12/25 = comm svc; church; Thurs prac
Wed 12/36 = Friday of game week/devilwin bday
Thurs 12/27 = Gameday Saturday

Wait, we added 5 days to this month? :rolleyes:

[House G]

Cut having a good time last night:
https://twitter.com/indybowl/status/1077061238922887168?s=21

[75Crazie]

That might be one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Cut having a good time last night:
https://twitter.com/indybowl/status/1077061238922887168?s=21

....white men can' t jump comes to mind for some reason.....

[PDDuke85]

Duke freshman defensive tackle Tahj Rice underwent an appendectomy on Monday evening. He'll miss the @IndyBowl, per @SarahFetters.


And the hits continue

Speedy recovery young man. See you in Atlanta in a few.

[Reilly]

Duke freshman defensive tackle Tahj Rice underwent an appendectomy on Monday evening. He'll miss the @IndyBowl, per @SarahFetters.


And the hits continue

Speedy recovery young man. See you in Atlanta in a few.

True frosh; appeared in all 12 games; on the 2-deep. Christmas Eve surgery. Glad we could fit one more in around the holidays!!

[OldPhiKap]

True frosh; appeared in all 12 games; on the 2-deep. Christmas Eve surgery. Glad we could fit one more in around the holidays!!

Was it a recent practice injury? Or a wait and see thing that lingered from the season but did not heal enough to avoid the surgery?

[PDDuke85]

Was it a recent practice injury? Or a wait and see thing that lingered from the season but did not heal enough to avoid the surgery?

OPK
I’m guessing acute appendicitis from the realm of bad luck in a young adult.

[OldPhiKap]

OPK
I’m guessing acute appendicitis from the realm of bad luck in a young adult.

Ah, missed the part about the appendix. Thanks.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

OPK
I’m guessing acute appendicitis from the realm of bad luck in a young adult.

My son had it at 19......no fun

[Reilly]

preview and prediction: https://sports.yahoo.com/duke-vs-temple-independence-bowl-preview-predictions-150737555.html

[House G]

Will any of the DBR community be at the pregame Duke tailgate party in the morning? I wish there were some way to identify each other—I would love to meet some of you guys! I guess I could have a sign with my username on it like this guy:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pK_5GvLzVQM
Or perhaps a more subtle approach:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PCZ1CVpxq_c

[House G]

It looks like we may catch a break on a the weather in Shreveport. We are forecast to get 2-3 inches of rain tonight and then stop before game time. High tomorrow of 65 and hopefully sunny.

[Devil in the Blue Dress]

Will any of the DBR community be at the pregame Duke tailgate party in the morning? I wish there were some way to identify each other—I would love to meet some of you guys! I guess I could have a sign with my username on it like this guy:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pK_5GvLzVQM
Or perhaps a more subtle approach:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PCZ1CVpxq_c

I'll be at the game, but won't be at the official Duke tailgate. I will be at the live radio broadcast tonight.

[Bob Green]

It sounds like Joe Giles-Harris will most likely not play:


@stevewisemanNC
23m23 minutes ago

David Cutcliffe expressed doubt that all-ACC LB Joe Giles-Harris will play in Thursday's @IndyBowl against Temple. Said he's practiced some.
"He’s given everything he can to get himself ready, but it’s been a challenge," Cutcliffe said Wednesday.
Koby Quansah is ready to play.

[chrishoke]

Certainly not a surprise but very disappointing. We very likely have seen JGH play his last game at Duke. Love JGH.

Adam Rowe now tweeting "Most likely will cause him to return next year from what I've been told."


WOW! We can hope.

[Bob Green]

Uniform: Blue Helmet with Duke in script, Blue Jersey and White Pants.

[TKG]

Uniform: Blue Helmet with Duke in script, Blue Jersey and White Pants.

Do we have advanced stats on how we perform in these uniforms, on December 27th, when the kickoff is at 1:30pm against opponents from Philadelphia? I’m asking for a friend.

[Bob Green]

Do we have advanced stats on how we perform in these uniforms, on December 27th, when the kickoff is at 1:30pm against opponents from Philadelphia? I’m asking for a friend.

We've never lost. :rolleyes:

[TKG]

We've never lost. :rolleyes:

Thanks, Bob. Based on your input, my friend is betting large....

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Can't remember this ever happening....after getting about 5 minutes of play in, weather has forced cancellation of BC Boise. Anyone ever seen this? What a let down that would be.

[OldPhiKap]

Can't remember this ever happening...after getting about 5 minutes of play in, weather has forced cancellation of BC Boise. Anyone ever seen this? What a let down that would be.

If I flew out there to watch it as a fan, I would be furious.

If I was a coach with an incentive clause for Bowl victories or performance, I would be furious.

If I was a school that had to buy guaranteed tickets as part of the appearance, I would be furious.

This ain't over.

[75Crazie]

Looks like the same weather system will continue to bring thunderstorm chance to Shreveport Thursday, but the forecast I found says it should clear out "late", whenever that is.

[chrishoke]

Can't remember this ever happening...after getting about 5 minutes of play in, weather has forced cancellation of BC Boise. Anyone ever seen this? What a let down that would be.

From ESPN: "NCAA spokesman J.D. Hamilton said via email that it was believed to be the first bowl canceled by weather. Hawaii's planned second postseason game of 1941, against San Jose State, was canceled because of the attack on Pearl Harbor."

[hallcity]

From ESPN: "NCAA spokesman J.D. Hamilton said via email that it was believed to be the first bowl canceled by weather. Hawaii's planned second postseason game of 1941, against San Jose State, was canceled because of the attack on Pearl Harbor."

Ah yes, the Pineapple Bowl. (https://www.revolvy.com/page/Pineapple-Bowl)

[martydoesntfoul]

From ESPN: "NCAA spokesman J.D. Hamilton said via email that it was believed to be the first bowl canceled by weather. Hawaii's planned second postseason game of 1941, against San Jose State, was canceled because of the attack on Pearl Harbor."There’s an incredible passage in “Fields of Battle” about this... the SJSU and Willamette University players were having breakfast when the planes flew overhead. Several of them were immediately deputized by the Honolulu police department and deployed on the streets to maintain order as marshal law was declared.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

From ESPN: "NCAA spokesman J.D. Hamilton said via email that it was believed to be the first bowl canceled by weather. Hawaii's planned second postseason game of 1941, against San Jose State, was canceled because of the attack on Pearl Harbor."

wow, amazing history nugget there, thanks!

[nmduke2001]

During halftime of the cheez-it bowl, ESPN did a quick preview for the independence bowl and said, featuring the now number two rated draft eligible qb Daniel Jones.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

During halftime of the cheez-it bowl, ESPN did a quick preview for the independence bowl and said, featuring the now number two rated draft eligible qb Daniel Jones.

In that report, who was 1? Grier? Lock?

Also, with Oregon's Herbert staying in college, and questions about Ryan Finley's arm strength being bandied around, it looks like DJ has moved up recently.

[chrishoke]

The weather report for our bowl game now shows sunny and temperature in the 60's at game time.

[Devil in the Blue Dress]

The weather report for our bowl game now shows sunny and temperature in the 60's at game time.

Rained hard last night and continues raining now. Rain predicted to stop between 10:00 and 10:30.

[budwom]

If I flew out there to watch it as a fan, I would be furious.

If I was a coach with an incentive clause for Bowl victories or performance, I would be furious.

If I was a school that had to buy guaranteed tickets as part of the appearance, I would be furious.

This ain't over.

if your QB was hit by lightning, you'd be furious!

[nmduke2001]

In that report, who was 1? Grier? Lock?

Also, with Oregon's Herbert staying in college, and questions about Ryan Finley's arm strength being bandied around, it looks like DJ has moved up recently.

The promo was right after they announced that Herbert was staying. So they implied that Jones was behind Herbert and has now moved up.


I'm doing this by memory but here are the terrible NFL teams that need QBs:
Giants
Broncos
Jaguars
Bucs

Hard to see Daniel falling out of the first rounds if he is indeed the second ranked QB. Most people on this board won't like this, but I wonder if Daniel is considering not playing today?

[Devil in the Blue Dress]

The promo was right after they announced that Herbert was staying. So they implied that Jones was behind Herbert and has now moved up.


I'm doing this by memory but here are the terrible NFL teams that need QBs:
Giants
Broncos
Jaguars
Bucs

Hard to see Daniel falling out of the first rounds if he is indeed the second ranked QB. Most people on this board won't like this, but I wonder if Daniel is considering not playing today?

He's been practicing with the team and making preparations to play today.

[nmduke2001]

He's been practicing with the team and making preparations to play today.

I fully expect him to play, but given the nature of football, I wouldn't blame him if he didn't.

This is the update from ESPN on Daniel's draft status:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Daniel Jones, Duke

Year: Fourth-year junior | Ht/Wt: 6-foot-5, 220 | Career starts: 35

Total QBR: 68.0 (42nd in FBS) | Full stats

Who he is and where he ranks

Keep an eye on quarterback whisperer David Cutcliffe's latest project, who could be the biggest beneficiary of Herbert's staying in school. The Duke coach has raved about Jones, a three-year starter who took a big step forward in 2018. His career numbers don't scream first-rounder -- 47 touchdown passes and 27 interceptions, while completing 59.5 percent of his passes, with a QBR of 60.7 -- but Jones didn't play with high-end talent. He's a dual-threat signal-caller. Jones rushed for 186 yards (and threw for 361) in the Blue Devils' win over rival North Carolina. Need proof of his toughness? Jones broke the collarbone in his left, non-throwing arm in September and missed only two games. If he chooses to forgo his final season of eligibility, Jones is expected to be in the mix to be the top QB off the board.

[brevity]

My cable system (the U in U-Verse stands for Umbilical) says that today’s bowl game (ESPN, 1:30pm ET) will also be rebroadcast early Friday morning on ESPN2 at 12:30am ET and on ESPNU at 5:30am ET. The announcers are listed as Mike Couzens, Kirk Morrison, and Lauren Sisler.

[chrishoke]

Very worried about our defense today. They have not played well since JGH was injured. I'm afraid we will need to score a ton of points to make this a competitive game. Go Devils!

[chrishoke]

Looks like the rain has moved out. I hope the field is in good shape.

[budwom]

I fully expect him to play, but given the nature of football, I wouldn't blame him if he didn't.

This is the update from ESPN on Daniel's draft status:
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Daniel Jones, Duke

Year: Fourth-year junior | Ht/Wt: 6-foot-5, 220 | Career starts: 35

Total QBR: 68.0 (42nd in FBS) | Full stats

Who he is and where he ranks

Keep an eye on quarterback whisperer David Cutcliffe's latest project, who could be the biggest beneficiary of Herbert's staying in school. The Duke coach has raved about Jones, a three-year starter who took a big step forward in 2018. His career numbers don't scream first-rounder -- 47 touchdown passes and 27 interceptions, while completing 59.5 percent of his passes, with a QBR of 60.7 -- but Jones didn't play with high-end talent. He's a dual-threat signal-caller. Jones rushed for 186 yards (and threw for 361) in the Blue Devils' win over rival North Carolina. Need proof of his toughness? Jones broke the collarbone in his left, non-throwing arm in September and missed only two games. If he chooses to forgo his final season of eligibility, Jones is expected to be in the mix to be the top QB off the board.


He said some time ago he'd play.
As much as I like Jones, I just don't see him that high in the draft ...I guess we'll see.

[Acymetric]

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The TuneIn Radio app might have it.

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[HereBeforeCoachK]

He said some time ago he'd play.
As much as I like Jones, I just don't see him that high in the draft ...I guess we'll see.

Dittos to all that ^^^^ - but I think he'll go now that Herbert at Oregon is not going. From a football standpoint, I think he'd develop more next year in college than carrying a clipboard in the NFL. From a financial standpoint, he may not have a choice but to go.

JUST HEARD Kiper has him second behind OSUs QB. I can't believe he's ahead of Grier and Lock, but I guess he is.

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

Dittos to all that ^^^^ - but I think he'll go now that Herbert at Oregon is not going. From a football standpoint, I think he'd develop more next year in college than carrying a clipboard in the NFL. From a financial standpoint, he may not have a choice but to go.

JUST HEARD Kiper has him second behind OSUs QB. I can't believe he's ahead of Grier and Lock, but I guess he is.

Counterpoint: he will start his career one year earlier, and seems unlikely to rise above the second best QB prospect next year. Add to that the chance of career ending or altering injury, and I would be sort of surprised if he doesn't go.

Two other points - I find it baffling that he is rated so high, but I suspect others know better than I do. Also, I would bet that a year on an NFL roster "holding a clipboard" would lead to much, much more development than a year in most college programs.

Regardless, I hope he has a great game today.

[JasonEvans]

Well, this is a decent start to the game... gotta punch it in here.

[Acymetric]

Counterpoint: he will start his career one year earlier, and seems unlikely to rise above the second best QB prospect next year. Add to that the chance of career ending or altering injury, and I would be sort of surprised if he doesn't go.

Two other points - I find it baffling that he is rated so high, but I suspect others know better than I do. Also, I would bet that a year on an NFL roster "holding a clipboard" would lead to much, much more development than a year in most college programs.

Regardless, I hope he has a great game today.

I agree with you on everything except the "holding a clipboard" part. Backups in the NFL do not get a lot of practice reps. Starters in college get a lot of practice reps and game reps. If you think you have significant improvement to make to be an NFL contributor you are better off staying in college. Going to the NFL too early might mean you're out of the league before you have the chance to improve enough to hang around. If you are "NFL ready" then entering the draft seems like the practical thing to do.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Backups in the NFL do not get a lot of practice reps. Starters in college get a lot of practice reps and game reps. If you think you have significant improvement to make to be an NFL contributor you are better off staying in college. Going to the NFL too early might mean you're out of the league before you have the chance to improve enough to hang around. If you are "NFL ready" then entering the draft seems like the practical thing to do.

Thank you for explaining that.....Mtn Devil and I are in truce mode......but what you said needed to be said.

[JasonEvans]

JUST HEARD Kiper has him second behind OSUs QB. I can't believe he's ahead of Grier and Lock, but I guess he is.

With Howard coming back, the 2020 NFL draft is going to be loaded with QBs. If Jones goes now, he has a shot at being a late first or 2nd round pick. If he waits a year, he goes behind Tua, Howard, Jake Fromme, Shae Patterson, and perhaps Jacob Eason (formerly GA, now Washington).

[arnie]

He's been practicing with the team and making preparations to play today.

Too bad neither Humphries nor Giles-Harris playing today. Guess they’re not taking chances on reinjuring their knees prior to draft camps.

[Acymetric]

Jones with an ankle, hopefully he comes back in.

[JasonEvans]

Uh oh... DJ is hurt. But Quentin Harris just completed a pass, so we got that going for us!

https://media.giphy.com/media/Mmzh0luGq7vGM/giphy.gif

[cato]

Any word on DJ?

[JasonEvans]

Pick 6... ouch.

[PackMan97]

..and another interception.

Turnovers. :mad:

[uh_no]

..and another interception.

Turnovers. :mad:

resisting.....urge...to make joke about...walk ons....

Rough start. hopefully we can turn it round.

[arnie]

resisting....urge...to make joke about...walk ons...

Rough start. hopefully we can turn it round.

Starting to feel like the Wake Forest fiasco. Except for one long pass, the O has been horrible. A lot to fix next year.

[killerleft]

Starting to feel like the Wake Forest fiasco. Except for one long pass, the O has been horrible. A lot to fix next year.

Starting to feel like... well, the not-so-distant past. I could be more frank about it, I guess. Still hoping for some offense. Still hoping for some defense.

[arnie]

Starting to feel like... well, the not-so-distant past. I could be more frank about it, I guess. Still hoping for some offense. Still hoping for some defense.

And maybe premature assessments, great drive😀

[killerleft]

Starting to feel like... well, the not-so-distant past. I could be more frank about it, I guess. Still hoping for some offense. Still hoping for some defense.

Hey, now defense!:D

[killerleft]

Daniel is playing on one good ankle, limping noticeably.

[fuse]

Hard to watch so far.

No TV shots of stadium. Are there even 5000 people in attendance?

[luvdahops]

Hard to watch so far.

No TV shots of stadium. Are there even 5000 people in attendance?

What string are we down to in the secondary? I’ve watched most of our games this year and don’t recognize some of these names and numbers at all.

[JasonEvans]

Hard to watch so far.

No TV shots of stadium. Are there even 5000 people in attendance?

I saw a low shot early on, just before kickoff, and the place looked completely empty.

[JasonEvans]

Oh come on!!! You have to catch that ball. Standing still and it hits you right in the hands!! Argh!

[JasonEvans]

Nice catch from TJ there. Seems like a competitive game at the half (1 minute left)... Duke down 6.

[devilish]

Can we play defense for the final minute of the half?

[killerleft]

Can we play defense for the final minute of the half?

Big question. Great kick coverage, though.

[uh_no]

Starting to feel like... well, the not-so-distant past. I could be more frank about it, I guess. Still hoping for some offense. Still hoping for some defense.

Saying "the ceiling is the 'roof'" has a very different meaning for duke football...

[House G]

Hard to watch so far.

No TV shots of stadium. Are there even 5000 people in attendance?

Probably 5-10,000 here and I’m being generous

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Oh come on!!! You have to catch that ball. Standing still and it hits you right in the hands!! Argh!

Let me count the cliches:
Groundhog Day
We've seen this movie before...
Blast from the pass (pasta)
:(

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Probably 5-10,000 here and I’m being generous

Not exactly LSU v Michigan State or Nebraska/Ole Miss is it? Two small private schools a long way away from Shreveport.

[Bob Green]

Jones stat line: 13/20 199 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT

The one craptastic pass that was intercepted excepted, Jones looked good in 1st half especially when one takes into account he is limping around on a bad ankle. I don't expect to see any QB draws called by Duke in this game.

[uh_no]

Jones stat line: 13/20 199 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT

The one craptastic pass that was intercepted excepted, Jones looked good in 1st half especially when one takes into account he is limping around on a bad ankle. I don't expect to see any QB draws called by Duke in this game.

That pass was REALLY craptastic though.

If this is his last game here, he's making a heck of a go at it. (not that i'd expect anything less).....winning on a bum ankle would be legendary as far as modern duke football goes.

[PackMan97]

I predict Temple's missed PAT comes back to haunt them. Duke by 1.

[arnie]

Jones stat line: 13/20 199 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT

The one craptastic pass that was intercepted excepted, Jones looked good in 1st half especially when one takes into account he is limping around on a bad ankle. I don't expect to see any QB draws called by Duke in this game.

And considering our porous O-Line and huge pressure on each play, I thought Jones was great except for the one noted play.

[killerleft]

And considering our porous O-Line and huge pressure on each play, I thought Jones was great except for the one noted play.

Getting better!

[luvdahops]

Probably 5-10,000 here and I’m being generous

ESPN camera shots make it look like stands are reasonably full between the 20s but pretty much empty elsewhere. I would’ve guessed more like 15k as a result.

[killerleft]

Defense?? Uh, defense... time to play now. I know we have lots of young guys in there. Not so much missing tackles as being out of position to make them.

[PackMan97]

I don't expect to see any QB draws called by Duke in this game.

QB sneaks on the other hand...

[killerleft]

Is that the Clemson '89 defense? It's worth a try.

[arnie]

QB sneaks on the other hand...

Huge numbers for Rahming today

[Billy Dat]

Damn, we came out flat and pretty unenthused but have really flipped it. I think Temple exhausted themselves with all the trash talk. Hopefully we can keep this rolling.

[killerleft]

Damn, we came out flat and pretty unenthused but have really flipped it. I think Temple exhausted themselves with all the trash talk. Hopefully we can keep this rolling.

Kudos to Rahming!

[Billy Dat]

Kudos to Rahming!

No doubt, they have had a very hard time guarding him.