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sagegrouse
09-17-2018, 06:29 PM
The fall season has started with the Duke women playing in the ANNIKA Intercollegiate at Elmo Lake, Minnesota. The tournament, which runs today through Wednesday, features nine of the top ten teams in its 12-team field.

Play was truncated this afternoon due to lightning, but with Duke (#4 preseason) in the lead at -9 with only two players still to finish. Second is pre-season #1 Alabama at -8. In the individual competition, Ana Belac and Virginia Elena Carter are tied for second and Jaravee Boonchant is tied for fourth.

Play in the 54-hole will resume tomorrow AM.

Go Duke!

sagegrouse
09-18-2018, 03:54 PM
The Duke women finished today with a ten-under par score and a two-day total of -19. They lead the field by three shots (over UCLA) with some teams still on the course. Here's the link. (http://results.golfstat.com/public/leaderboards/gsnav.cfm?pg=team&tid=16372)

Ana Belac, at -11, has a two-shot lead over the field in the individual competition. Jaravee is tied for fifth.

Rich
09-18-2018, 04:10 PM
Not entirely on topic, but this news is just awful.

Decorated college/amateur golfer found stabbed to death at course

One of the most celebrated golfers in the history of the Iowa State women’s golf program was found dead at an Ames, Iowa, golf course on Monday with police suspecting foul play.

Celia Barquin Arozamena, a 22-year-old from Spain who had finished her senior season in the spring by winning the Big 12 individual title, was taking classes to complete her civil engineering degree this fall and preparing for Stage II of LPGA Q school. On Monday, her body was discovered at Coldwater Links Golf Course after officials were concerned with seeing a golf bag with no one near it on the course. Barquin Arozamena was eventually found some distance away in a pond where her belongings were also found.

After following up leads and asking the community earlier in the day for any clues it might have, Ames police arrested and charged Collin Daniel Richards, 22, late Monday night with first-degree murder.

https://sports.yahoo.com/decorated-college-amateur-golfer-found-120832251.html

sagegrouse
09-18-2018, 05:04 PM
The Duke women finished today with a ten-under par score and a two-day total of -19. They lead the field by three shots (over UCLA) with some teams still on the course. Here's the link. (http://results.golfstat.com/public/leaderboards/gsnav.cfm?pg=team&tid=16372)

Ana Belac, at -11, has a two-shot lead over the field in the individual competition. Jaravee is tied for fifth.

Here's how the teams finished at the end of Day Two:


-19 Duke
-17 Alabama (went -10 on the last four holes)
-16 UCLA
-15 Southern California
-10 Texas

Should be a great final day. Go Duke!

sagegrouse
09-19-2018, 07:14 PM
Not a good day. We sank like a rock. Duke was +5 for the final day and ended up fifth, 14 shots behind Alabama and 12 behind UCLA. Ana Belac ended up fourth in the individual competition, three shots behind.

We are still looking forward to a great season from the women golfers. Go Duke!

grossbus
09-20-2018, 07:59 AM
Thanks for the updates, Sage.

sagegrouse
10-12-2018, 10:40 PM
For the third straight tournament the Duke women are fast out of the gate, leading the Ruth's Chris Tar Hell Invitational by six shots with a -17 score of 271. This is a two-day tournament and the next-to-last of the fall season. UVa is second at -11 and Arkansas third at -3 -- the only other teams under par. The host Tar Heels are in tenth at +9.

In the individual competition, sophomore Jaravee Boonchant is in first place at -6, followed by senior and former NCAA champ Virginia Elena Carta and junior Ana Belac, who are tied for fourth at -4.

Let's hope our great first round leads to victory this time.\

Kindly,
Sage
'Sorry about the misspelled headline -- I really did mean to type "Heel." I would be happy for a Mod to correct'

MarkD83
10-13-2018, 08:28 AM
You spelled it correctly

sagegrouse
10-13-2018, 11:17 PM
I am going to retire from reporting women's golf -- this is the second of a three-day tournament. Somehow I thought it was a 36-hole tournament. So the headline is wrong, or, at least, premature.

Duke's second round was seventeen strokes higher than Friday's opening round, but we maintained a sizable lead. Duke is eight strokes ahead of Virginia, with Arkansas in third, eleven shots behind.

Virginia Elena Carta is second in the individual competition; Ana Belac is tied for sixth. First-round leader Jaravee Boonchant went 66-76 to sit in a tie for ninth.

Go Duke!

sagegrouse
10-14-2018, 03:29 PM
A day after my false headline, Duke finished strongly to win the Ruth's Chris Tar Heel Invitational by six shots over Virginia and nine shots ahead of Arkansas.

Ana Belac finished third in the individual competition behind Wake's Emilia Migliaccio. Virginia was tied for fifth, and Jaravee Boonchant was tied for eighth.

Go Duke!!!

roywhite
05-07-2019, 04:32 PM
Blue Devils Head to Auburn Regionals as No. 1 Seed

This from goduke.com http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=22558&SPID=1838&DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=211802196&DB_OEM_ID=4200

And now in 1st place in the regional after 2 days.

http://results.golfstat.com/public/leaderboards/gsnav.cfm?pg=team&tid=17532

sagegrouse
05-07-2019, 05:11 PM
Blue Devils Head to Auburn Regionals as No. 1 Seed

This from goduke.com http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=22558&SPID=1838&DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=211802196&DB_OEM_ID=4200

And now in 1st place in the regional after 2 days.

http://results.golfstat.com/public/leaderboards/gsnav.cfm?pg=team&tid=17532

Thanks for posting. Top six advance to nationals and -- no -- scores don't carry over. :)

Logjam at the top, but Duke is 12 shots ahead of the #7 team (actually, two are tied for 6th). Tomorrow is the last day.

Gina Kim and Jaravee Boonchant are T5 (-1) in the individual scoring; Ana Belac is T12 (+1); Virginia Elena Carter and Miranda Wang are T28 (+4). Everyone is playing fairly well.

Nationals for both women and men are in Fayetteville, Arkansas. The women play next weekend; the men the week after. Duke men are #2 seed in the Athens regional starting next Monday.

Go Duke!

roywhite
05-08-2019, 01:57 PM
Duke has slipped to 4th after the first 9 holes in the 3rd (final) round of the Regionals.
Still only 2 shots out of the lead, and 9 shots ahead of the 6th place team, which is the final qualifying spot for nationals.

http://results.golfstat.com/public/leaderboards/gsnav.cfm?pg=team&tid=17532

chrishoke
05-08-2019, 04:53 PM
Duke easily qualifies for the finals by coming in third in the Regional at 4 over par.

roywhite
05-08-2019, 04:54 PM
Duke finished 3rd in the regionals at +4 for the tournament, behind Vanderbilt and Florida State. Jaravee Boorchant finished tied for 3rd in the individual standings.

The team qualified for the finals, held in Fayetteville, Arkansas beginning May 17.

http://results.golfstat.com/public/leaderboards/gsnav.cfm?pg=team&tid=17532

sagegrouse
05-17-2019, 10:49 PM
The standings are pretty much a rugby scrum at the Women's NCAA golf championship in Fayetteville, AR. There are ten teams within ten shots of the lead, which is held by Texas and host Arkansas at +10. Duke is in fifth at +13. The team scoring uses the best four out of five scores over 18 holes for the team total each day.

If the format is the same as last year's, four days of medal play produce the individual champion and the top eight teams, which then go through a single elimination tournament over the next two days (Tuesday and Wednesday). Miranda Wang (T13, +2), Jaravee Boonchant and Ana Belac ( both T19, +3) lead the Blue Devils.

Duke (seeded #3) tees off at 7 AM CDT playing with and against Texas (#2) and Southern California (#1).

Duke has won the NCAAwomen's championships six times.

Go Duke!!

roywhite
05-17-2019, 11:08 PM
Tough course or maybe tough weather conditions?
As Sage notes, the leading team is +10 after Round 1

Here is the live scoring link (warning: it can be addictive when a title is on the line)
http://results.golfstat.com/public/leaderboards/gsnav.cfm?pg=team&tid=17030&_ga=2.128171148.1435431869.1557540203-1924902072.1556402725

sagegrouse
05-18-2019, 08:57 AM
Aha! Duke moves to the lead with -3 in first three holes mat the beginning of the 2nd round of the NCAA champioships. (Roywhite said following the scores was addictive.)

AGDukesky
05-18-2019, 09:52 AM
Aha! Duke moves to the lead with -3 in first three holes mat the beginning of the 2nd round of the NCAA champioships. (Roywhite said following the scores was addictive.)

It is! There is no bigger online rollercoaster than team golf leaderboards...

sagegrouse
05-18-2019, 10:46 AM
It is! There is no bigger online rollercoaster than team golf leaderboards...

Duke now is second place at +8, -5 for the day, as -- of this minute (second?) -- all five Devils are at or under par. USC leads and is having a big day at -8. The ninth place team (eight qualify for finals) is at +19.

sagegrouse
05-18-2019, 11:23 AM
Duke now is second place at +8, -5 for the day, as -- of this minute (second?) -- all five Devils are at or under par. USC leads and is having a big day at -8. The ninth place team (eight qualify for finals) is at +19.

Duke still doing well. TV coverage on the Golf Channel begins Monday with the fourth and final round of medal play on Monday and then covers the team playoffs on Tuesday and Wednesday:

2019 NCAA DI Women's Golf Championships: Schedule
Golf Channel TV schedule

Monday, May 20 — Individual National Championship 4-8 p.m.
Tuesday, May 21 — Quarterfinals, Team Match Play, 11 a.m. - 1:30 p.m.; Semifinals, Team Match Play, 4 p.m. - 8 p.m.
Wednesday, May 22 — Team National Championship, 4 p.m. - 8 p.m.

The two teams that make the finals will play seven rounds of golf in six days -- without caddies.

sagegrouse
05-18-2019, 12:55 PM
Duke still doing well. TV coverage on the Golf Channel begins Monday with the fourth and final round of medal play on Monday and then covers the team playoffs on Tuesday and Wednesday:

2019 NCAA DI Women's Golf Championships: Schedule
Golf Channel TV schedule

Monday, May 20 — Individual National Championship 4-8 p.m.
Tuesday, May 21 — Quarterfinals, Team Match Play, 11 a.m. - 1:30 p.m.; Semifinals, Team Match Play, 4 p.m. - 8 p.m.
Wednesday, May 22 — Team National Championship, 4 p.m. - 8 p.m.

The two teams that make the finals will play seven rounds of golf in six days -- without caddies.

MMM-mmmm-mmmm... Can't say anything.

chrishoke
05-18-2019, 01:00 PM
Duke is now 9 under for the day and has taken a five stroke lead.

4Gen
05-18-2019, 01:05 PM
Duke is currently 50 strokes ahead of Kent State. I thought the black squirrels would pose more of a challenge.

sagegrouse
05-18-2019, 01:08 PM
Duke is currently 50 strokes ahead of Kent State. I thought the black squirrels would pose more of a challenge.

Kent State, believe it or not, was ranked #5 nationally going into the tournament -- following USC, Texas, Duke and Arizona.

4Gen
05-18-2019, 01:15 PM
Kent State, believe it or not, was ranked #5 nationally going into the tournament -- following USC, Texas, Duke and Arizona.

Somebody's got some splaining to do.

sagegrouse
05-18-2019, 01:28 PM
Anyway, weather delay before all of our players have finished. "Mandatory evacuation" is the notice. Virginia (-2) and Gina (-3) have finished. Jaravee (-2) and Ana Belac (-3) have finished 17 holes. Miranda Wang (-2) has two left to play.

Duke is in first place at +3 overall and -10 for the day, six shots clear of #2 USC.

Tooold
05-18-2019, 02:27 PM
The two teams that make the finals will play seven rounds of golf in six days -- without caddies.

I sure hope they use pull carts this year. IIRC, they are allowed to use carts, but have opted to carry in the past, only to get tired by the final rounds.

sagegrouse
05-18-2019, 02:58 PM
I sure hope they use pull carts this year. IIRC, they are allowed to use carts, but have opted to carry in the past, only to get tired by the final rounds.

IIRC, there were some electric gizmos in use the last couple of years. We'll see what is available when the TV coverage starts on Monday.

sagegrouse
05-18-2019, 08:10 PM
Play will not resume until Sunday.

Meanwhile, it looks like Duke's Leona Maguire just wrapped up her second win on the LPGA Symetra Classic, completed yesterday in Davidson, NC. From the Irish Times:


Brooks Koepka is not the only golfer dominating this weekend after Ireland’s Leona Maguire wrapped up a five-shot victory at the Symetra Classic in North Carolina to put her in pole position to secure a full LPGA card for next season.

The 24-year-old Cavan golfer went into the final round of the 54-hole event in a four-way tie for the lead, only to blow away her rivals with five birdies and no dropped shots in a five-under 67 to finish on 10 under.

It is Maguire’s second win of the season on the Symetra Tour and she now goes top of the Volvik Race For The Card rankings with earnings of $73,790, over $20,000 clear of her nearest challenger.

SoCalDukeFan
05-18-2019, 08:44 PM
Play will not resume until Sunday.

Meanwhile, it looks like Duke's Leona Maguire just wrapped up her second win on the LPGA Symetra Classic, completed yesterday in Davidson, NC. From the Irish Times:

First of all congratulations to Leona, who is on fire right now. She has won two of her last three tournaments and finished 2nd in the other, losing in a playoff. She also finished in the top 2 to qualify for the US Women's Open.

The NCAA women's tournament starts with 24 teams, after 3 rounds they cut to 15 and then to 8 after the fourth round. Then quarter and semi finals one day, final two teams play the 3rd.
The final 3 days are covered on the Golf Channel. Next day is practice for the men, then it starts all over with the men.

Half of the field did not even start today. Duke had 3 players finish, and two need to come out early tomorrow and finish up.

So the NCAA either needs to adjust the format or figure out how to get it all in. Weather forecast is good for Sunday/Monday then rain on Tuesday which is supposed to be the quarter and semi finals.
I am also told the course is very hilly. If I label the teams that played A and those that did not start B then they could try
Sunday - A finishes round 2, B plays round 2, A plays round 3.
Monday - B plays round 3, Top 15 play round 4.

Now back on schedule, The teams from group B that made the final 15 would have to play 36 holes.

Quarters and Semis Tuesday, maybe in the rain.

This format is kind of fun and does get TV coverage. However there is very little room to maneuver around the weather. Moreover since the Men and Women play the same course back to back, it probably reduces the number of available courses as some would not want to give up their course for over two weeks in a row

For the next three years the championships move to Scottsdale, which greatly reduces the rain factor but adds the heat factor

SoCal

YmoBeThere
05-18-2019, 09:03 PM
...Scottsdale, which greatly reduces the rain factor but adds the heat factor

But it is a dry heat...

sagegrouse
05-18-2019, 09:14 PM
First of all congratulations to Leona, who is on fire right now. She has won two of her last three tournaments and finished 2nd in the other, losing in a playoff. She also finished in the top 2 to qualify for the US Women's Open.

The NCAA women's tournament starts with 24 teams, after 3 rounds they cut to 15 and then to 8 after the fourth round. Then quarter and semi finals one day, final two teams play the 3rd.
The final 3 days are covered on the Golf Channel. Next day is practice for the men, then it starts all over with the men.

Half of the field did not even start today. Duke had 3 players finish, and two need to come out early tomorrow and finish up.

So the NCAA either needs to adjust the format or figure out how to get it all in. Weather forecast is good for Sunday/Monday then rain on Tuesday which is supposed to be the quarter and semi finals.
I am also told the course is very hilly. If I label the teams that played A and those that did not start B then they could try
Sunday - A finishes round 2, B plays round 2, A plays round 3.
Monday - B plays round 3, Top 15 play round 4.

Now back on schedule, The teams from group B that made the final 15 would have to play 36 holes.

Quarters and Semis Tuesday, maybe in the rain.

This format is kind of fun and does get TV coverage. However there is very little room to maneuver around the weather. Moreover since the Men and Women play the same course back to back, it probably reduces the number of available courses as some would not want to give up their course for over two weeks in a row

For the next three years the championships move to Scottsdale, which greatly reduces the rain factor but adds the heat factor

SoCal

FWIW, Duke, USC and Texas -- plus the other "almost finishers" -- get a huge break. The teams that will have to play 36 tomorrow are the lesser-ranked teams, already at a disadvantage. Duke players only have four holes left to play, in toto, before starting the third round sometime later on Sunday.

I keep forgetting about the cut-down from 24 to 15 teams after three rounds -- thanks for the reminder.

Also, the women's schedule probably will not be allowed to slip by a day. The men tee off on Friday, and Thursday is the only practice day. Well, I take that back -- the finals only involve five twosomes, and could happen on Thursday without too much interference.

SoCalDukeFan
05-18-2019, 09:18 PM
FWIW, Duke, USC and Texas -- plus the other "almost finishers" -- get a huge break. The teams that will have to play 36 tomorrow are the lesser-ranked teams, already at a disadvantage. Duke players only have four holes left to play, in toto, before starting the third round sometime later on Sunday.

I keep forgetting about the cut-down from 24 to 15 teams after three rounds -- thanks for the reminder.

Also, the women's schedule probably will not be allowed to slip by a day. The men tee off on Friday, and Thursday is the only practice day. Well, I take that back -- the finals only involve five twosomes, and could happen on Thursday without too much interference.

And one scenario.

NCAA may try something else.


SoCal

SoCalDukeFan
05-18-2019, 11:52 PM
to 54 holes I hear.

Tuesday rain forecast remains an issue.

SoCal

grossbus
05-19-2019, 07:40 AM
Keep updates coming. Thanks!

OZZIE4DUKE
05-19-2019, 07:45 AM
Leona won her US Open qualifying spot at Starmount Forest CC in Greensboro, my home course! I’ve been a member there for two years. LGD GTHc!

sagegrouse
05-19-2019, 08:42 AM
to 54 holes I hear.

Tuesday rain forecast remains an issue.

SoCal

Quote from the NCAA.com page:


DI Women's golf championship action will continue with Round 2 on Sunday, May 19. This round will be a continuation of the postponed action on Saturday. Instead of the initially planned 72 holes, stroke play will be limited to just 54 holes. All 24 teams and 12 individuals in the tournament will play, and the pairings for that round will be based on the 36-hole scores. Individual medalists will be honored after the 54 holes. At this point, the field will be reduced to just the top eight teams, and these teams will start match play quarterfinals on Tuesday.

There are two possibilities: First, Round 3 starts Monday, and Sunday is exclusively for Round 2 -- half the field hasn't teed off yet. In this case, the Duke players play only three holes of golf -- two by Miranda, and one by Jaravee. Second, Round 3 starts late on Sunday. Given that the top group of teams is more than halfway through Round 2, and the second group tees off at either 10 AM today or 11:06 AM. There may be time to complete round two, establish the pairings for Round 3, and get started. I suspect it's the former, but I can't tell.

But if the latter, the NCAA may have the chance to begin the quarter-finals on Monday afternoon.

Anyway, I like our position -- seven-shot lead over #2 USC and likely a 20-shot lead over the ninth place team after the second-tier teams play today.

roywhite
05-19-2019, 08:53 AM
Just a note here; I think we have slighted the Duke Women's Tennis team, who also had a terrific season and advanced deep into the NCAA playoffs.

Duke Drops Heartbreaker to Georgia in Semifinals

ORLANDO, Fla. – A back-and-forth battle came to a heartbreaking end Saturday evening in the semifinals of the NCAA Team Championship as the fifth-ranked Duke women’s tennis team fell to top-ranked Georgia, 4-2, at the USTA National Campus.

2019 featured Duke in the finals of the ACC Championship and the semifinals of the NCAA Team Championship and the ITA Indoor National Championships.

http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=211803829&DB_OEM_ID=4200&_ga=2.138976307.1435431869.1557540203-1924902072.1556402725

BD80
05-19-2019, 09:01 AM
Play will not resume until Sunday.

Meanwhile, it looks like Duke's Leona Maguire just wrapped up her second win on the LPGA Symetra Classic, completed yesterday in Davidson, NC. From the Irish Times:

I am a wee bit embarrassed that I had to look up "Cavan."

chrishoke
05-19-2019, 11:36 AM
Just a note here; I think we have slighted the Duke Women's Tennis team, who also had a terrific season and advanced deep into the NCAA playoffs.

Duke Drops Heartbreaker to Georgia in Semifinals

ORLANDO, Fla. – A back-and-forth battle came to a heartbreaking end Saturday evening in the semifinals of the NCAA Team Championship as the fifth-ranked Duke women’s tennis team fell to top-ranked Georgia, 4-2, at the USTA National Campus.

2019 featured Duke in the finals of the ACC Championship and the semifinals of the NCAA Team Championship and the ITA Indoor National Championships.

http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=211803829&DB_OEM_ID=4200&_ga=2.138976307.1435431869.1557540203-1924902072.1556402725

I was able to watch the match on the tennis channel. The two remaining and deciding singles matches were absolute dog fights that went down to the wire. Georgia won by the slimmest of margin. Hats off to our competitors and congratulations on a fabulous season!

duketaylor
05-19-2019, 11:37 AM
women on their last hole of round 2, round 3 to follow.
should have at least a 5 shot lead.

chrishoke
05-19-2019, 12:14 PM
Duke was 11 under (wow) for round 2, 2 over for the tournament and currently leads by 9 strokes over #1 USC.

AGDukesky
05-19-2019, 12:19 PM
Amazing round - just wish it was under the old format that ended at Medal play. There is a small advantage in being the #1 seed in match play but not much. Hopefully the women continue to play well despite likely not feeling much urgency in round 3.

sagegrouse
05-19-2019, 12:26 PM
Duke was 11 under (wow) for round 2, 2 over for the tournament and currently leads by 9 strokes over #1 USC.

Notable that all five of our golfers were under par: Ana -4, Gina Kim -3, Virginia and Jaravee -2, Miranda -1. Virginia Elena Carta had an 11-shot improvement in Round 2!

Team standings won't change, as the top rated teams are wrapping up Round 2, but the individual standings will change with so many players are still on the course. Ana is now T3; Jaravee and Miranda are T6.

sagegrouse
05-19-2019, 07:40 PM
Same old, same old. Duke again plays with and against USC and Texas, teeing off on the first hole at 1:01 PM CDT. The top-ranked teams finished in the top three places in the tournament after Round 2. Duke (#3) is at +2; Southern California (#1) is at +11; Texas (#2) is at +12.

Duke, in addition to being nine shots ahead of USC, is 22 strokes ahead of the ninth place teams (Auburn, Wake). Eight teams qualify for the playoffs.

In the invitational competition, which will be decided tomorrow, Ana is fifth at -1, three shots behind Sierra Brooks of Florida. Jaravee and Miranda are T6, while Gina Kim is T13.

Go Duke!!

Steven43
05-19-2019, 11:03 PM
Same old, same old. Duke again plays with and against USC and Texas, teeing off on the first hole at 1:01 PM CDT. The top-ranked teams finished in the top three places in the tournament after Round 2. Duke (#3) is at +2; Southern California (#1) is at +11; Texas (#2) is at +12.

Duke, in addition to being nine shots ahead of USC, is 22 strokes ahead of the ninth place teams (Auburn, Wake). Eight teams qualify for the playoffs.

In the invitational competition, which will be decided tomorrow, Ana is fifth at -1, three shots behind Sierra Brooks of Florida. Jaravee and Miranda are T6, while Gina Kim is T13.

Go Duke!!
I really dislike the format that the NCAA changed to a few years ago I prefer the old format — where you play 72 holes and add up the scores of your top four players, and low overall team score wins. I think the new format makes it more likely that a lesser team can win.

Bluedog
05-19-2019, 11:10 PM
I really dislike the format that the NCAA changed to a few years ago I prefer the old format — where you play 72 holes and add up the scores of your top four players, and low overall team score wins. I think the new format makes it more likely that a lesser team can win.

I agree with you, but I think that's why they did it. As crazy as it sounds, they wanted "excitement" (on TV and in person).

sagegrouse
05-19-2019, 11:48 PM
I really dislike the format that the NCAA changed to a few years ago I prefer the old format — where you play 72 holes and add up the scores of your top four players, and low overall team score wins. I think the new format makes it more likely that a lesser team can win.


I agree with you, but I think that's why they did it. As crazy as it sounds, they wanted "excitement" (on TV and in person).

Yep. Moreover, you use medal play to qualify for a match play tournament. Furthermore, there are 36 holes of golf on Tuesday (quarters and semis) -- which clearly are a different test than the rest of the tournament -- or the rest of the golf season.

SoCalDukeFan
05-20-2019, 01:05 AM
Yep. Moreover, you use medal play to qualify for a match play tournament. Furthermore, there are 36 holes of golf on Tuesday (quarters and semis) -- which clearly are a different test than the rest of the tournament -- or the rest of the golf season.

The 4 day medal play is a fairer. Match play is rare is college golf, and playing two matches in one day probably very rare. Might be interesting this year with rain forecasted for Tuesday. Might be real interesting in Scottsdale heat in the future.

The match play format makes for better TV, much of the time. Also the best four out of five scoring system is somewhat confusing until you understand it.

Last year Arizona needed a miracle eagle putt to get into a tie for the last match play spot, Then they win the playoff and 3 matches and are national champs.
It was amazing to watch.

If Duke plays well tomorrow and earns the #1 seed, we can say we wished they had the old format.
If Duke falls out of the #1 seed but then wins the next 3 matches, we will say great format.

SoCal

roywhite
05-20-2019, 11:06 AM
Weather in Fayetteville looks good today Monday, not good Tuesday (severe thunderstorms) and okay for a few days after

https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/fayetteville-ar/72701/daily-weather-forecast/326857

sagegrouse
05-20-2019, 03:17 PM
Off to a shaky start in Round 3. Ten holes played collectively, with two birdies, three pars and five bogeys. Turns out to be even par. Texas is at -1 for the day and USC is even par.

sagegrouse
05-20-2019, 04:15 PM
I found someone to root for. RuQing Guan of Purdue is +45 after only 43 holes. I'd say it is a Sage-like total, but it's really more of a sagebrush-like score. RuQing's team is T8, so she may even get to play tomorrow.

sagegrouse
05-20-2019, 05:33 PM
On weather delay at the moment. Thing is, the weather's supposed to be really bad TOMORROW, not today. Prediction is for strong storms and wind in the middle of the day and early afternoon.

wilson
05-20-2019, 05:41 PM
Anybody got a link to live scoring? In years past, it’s been reasonably easy to find through the NCAA Championships page, but I’ve had no such luck this year.

AGDukesky
05-20-2019, 05:47 PM
Anybody got a link to live scoring? In years past, it’s been reasonably easy to find through the NCAA Championships page, but I’ve had no such luck this year.

http://results.golfstat.com/public/leaderboards/gsnav.cfm?pg=team&tid=17030

Doing this from my phone bit hopefully this works

sagegrouse
05-20-2019, 05:51 PM
Anybody got a link to live scoring? In years past, it’s been reasonably easy to find through the NCAA Championships page, but I’ve had no such luck this year.

This is the URL on my screen:

http://results.golfstat.com/public/leaderboards/gsnav.cfm?pg=team&tid=17030&_ga=2.247125127.269535851.1558146853-779890262.1545682460

Also -- links directly from the story on the front page of GoDuke.com.

roywhite
05-20-2019, 10:37 PM
Looks like the day is nearly complete according to the stat site.

Not a good day for the Duke team, with a +12 for the 3rd round compared to a terrific -11 for the second round. Still, it appears to be enough to finish 2nd to Texas as the top 8 teams advance. By the look of it, the Blue Devils will face #7 Stanford in the quarter-finals, which are scheduled for Tuesday 5/21 but could be affected by predicted thunder storms.

http://results.golfstat.com/public/leaderboards/gsnav.cfm?pg=team&tid=17030

SoCalDukeFan
05-21-2019, 12:29 AM
I really dislike the format that the NCAA changed to a few years ago I prefer the old format — where you play 72 holes and add up the scores of your top four players, and low overall team score wins. I think the new format makes it more likely that a lesser team can win.

In college golf the top 4 out of 5 scores count, in stroke play. So if you have a team with 3 very good players then you need 4 or 5 to play well enough. You may not win tournaments but maybe you get into the top 8 in the NCAAs.
Then you may only need your top 3 to win their matches.

It is strange that the teams play one way almost all year, then a different format to decide the national championship.

SoCal

sagegrouse
05-21-2019, 09:17 AM
Can follow the scoring here (http://results.golfstat.com/public/leaderboards/gsnav.cfm?pg=match&tid=17029&rid=1). Golf coverage picks up on the Golf Channel at noon EDT, but there may be coverage earlier in the "Morning Drive" program.

nmduke2001
05-21-2019, 09:50 AM
Duke up early on Stanford. Duke did not play well yesterday afternoon and gave up a large lead and fell to the second seed for match play. Duke again elects to carry their bags instead of using push carts. This his been hotly debated on DBR for several years now.

Tooold
05-21-2019, 11:32 AM
Duke up early on Stanford. Duke did not play well yesterday afternoon and gave up a large lead and fell to the second seed for match play. Duke again elects to carry their bags instead of using push carts. This his been hotly debated on DBR for several years now.

I just don’t understand why our players choose to do this. Last year, we seemed to lose steam as we got deeper into match play. And our opponents were often using pull carts. Why give the other team any kind of advantage. And no one can convince me that carrying doesn’t add to fatigue.

AGDukesky
05-21-2019, 11:55 AM
As expected, it looks like play has been suspended

sagegrouse
05-21-2019, 11:58 AM
I just don’t understand why our players choose to do this. Last year, we seemed to lose steam as we got deeper into match play. And our opponents were often using pull carts. Why give the other team any kind of advantage. And no one can convince me that carrying doesn’t add to fatigue.

Yeah, other golfers weigh in, but there are different opinions. Many swear that carry bags expend less energy than pull carts.

sagegrouse
05-21-2019, 12:02 PM
As expected, it looks like play has been suspended

"Strong storms" and "thunderstorms" until 3 PM or so local time. Clear tonight and tomorrow. Probably finish 18 today and then play semis and finals tomorrow.

Go Duke!

nmduke2001
05-21-2019, 12:26 PM
I just don’t understand why our players choose to do this. Last year, we seemed to lose steam as we got deeper into match play. And our opponents were often using pull carts. Why give the other team any kind of advantage. And no one can convince me that carrying doesn’t add to fatigue.

My daughter (age 9), started her golf season on Sunday. She used a push cart for the first time this season. I asked her if she felt better. She said that she thought it was much easier. I knew that would be the answer because when she carried last year, she was dragging ar$e at the end of 9 holes. This year, she seemed fine.

I will say that my bag is pretty heavy and using the push cart helps a lot. Count me as one that doesn't understand why the Duke team does not use push carts.

Steven43
05-21-2019, 12:28 PM
I will say that my bag is pretty heavy and using the push cart helps a lot. Count me as one that doesn't understand why the Duke team does not use a push cart.

Seconded. But I’ve known Dan for 20 years and he’s old school.

AZLA
05-21-2019, 12:45 PM
Yeah, other golfers weigh in, but there are different opinions. Many swear that carry bags expend less energy than pull carts.

The problem with push or pull carts, is that one pulls/pushes with their dominant arm. The extra muscle exertion on the dominant arm over many holes causes fatigue in that arm. Deeper in the round, the tired arm, gives way to the the other arm -- and players will tend to slice or hook the ball more. Therefore carts cause worse slicing or hooking. (Of course I'm joking :cool:).

It really comes down to personal preference and the type of course. The hillier the course, the less I personally would like to use a pull cart, because it drags or rolls away and it's unwieldy at times when the course is steep. If you look at the team's home course, that probably is a good indicator of answering why? The Duke University Club course -- which is a great course -- from what I remember has some significant undulation/hills, and deep rough. It would stand to reason that Duke prefers carrying the bag based on where they play/practice most. And because routines are important for golfers, perhaps that's why the choose to carry?

And because golf competition, especially team golf, relies on gaining the mental edge -- perhaps they just do this as a tradition to show they're tougher than the other teams? Perhaps they feel it gives them an edge.

Perhaps carrying bags is better leg exercise and makes them stronger?

Meanwhile, I have to get to my next league round -- which is always a driving cart :)

Those are some theories that came to mind.

Steven43
05-21-2019, 01:39 PM
The problem with push or pull carts, is that one pulls/pushes with their dominant arm. The extra muscle exertion on the dominant arm over many holes causes fatigue in that arm. Deeper in the round, the tired arm, gives way to the the other arm -- and players will tend to slice or hook the ball more. Therefore carts cause worse slicing or hooking. (Of course I'm joking :cool:).

It really comes down to personal preference and the type of course. The hillier the course, the less I personally would like to use a pull cart, because it drags or rolls away and it's unwieldy at times when the course is steep. If you look at the team's home course, that probably is a good indicator of answering why? The Duke University Club course -- which is a great course -- from what I remember has some significant undulation/hills, and deep rough. It would stand to reason that Duke prefers carrying the bag based on where they play/practice most. And because routines are important for golfers, perhaps that's why the choose to carry?

And because golf competition, especially team golf, relies on gaining the mental edge -- perhaps they just do this as a tradition to show they're tougher than the other teams? Perhaps they feel it gives them an edge.

Perhaps carrying bags is better leg exercise and makes them stronger?

Meanwhile, I have to get to my next league round -- which is always a driving cart :)

Those are some theories that came to mind.
A lot to think about there. You might be onto something.

Anyone have an update on Duke v Stanford? Still no golf until 3 PM West Coast Time?

AGDukesky
05-21-2019, 01:49 PM
A lot to think about there. You might be onto something.

Anyone have an update on Duke v Stanford? Still no golf until 3 PM West Coast Time?

The course is in Arkansas, so hopefully play will resume at 3:00 central time

Steven43
05-21-2019, 01:51 PM
The course is in Arkansas, so hopefully play will resume at 3:00 central time

Oops, sorry. The Stanford thing (West Coast) was in my head.

BD80
05-21-2019, 04:07 PM


And because golf competition, especially team golf, relies on gaining the mental edge -- perhaps they just do this as a tradition to show they're tougher than the other teams? Perhaps they feel it gives them an edge.

...


So this is the women's golf equivalent of the Steelers offensive linemen wearing sleeveless jerseys in sub-zero weather? Badass!

jimsumner
05-21-2019, 04:32 PM
Wheels up at 5:15 eastern.

AGDukesky
05-21-2019, 05:31 PM
Looks like play has resumed

jimsumner
05-21-2019, 05:42 PM
Duke currently leads two matches, three others all square.

jimsumner
05-21-2019, 06:44 PM
Getting hairy. 2-2-1 on the back nine. Duke's Miranda Wang was up two after eight but has lost three straight holes.

Bluedog
05-21-2019, 07:58 PM
Ouch. Carta was up 3 with 3 holes to go and lost the last three. Going to extra...all tied up at 1-1-3 and the 1s on both sides are only 1 up.

jimsumner
05-21-2019, 07:59 PM
Carta's meltdown really puts this in doubt. All she had to do was half just one of the last three holes and she could not do it.

Ouch!

jimsumner
05-21-2019, 08:06 PM
The good news? Stanford only leads one match.

The bad news? The other four are tied, with three still ongoing. Somebody is going to have to make a birdie for Duke. Or two.

jimsumner
05-21-2019, 08:07 PM
And Duke got one. Kim birdies 18 for her win.

All square, at 1-1-3.

jimsumner
05-21-2019, 08:19 PM
Belac wins 18 and her match with par.

Duke with two wins in the books.

Stanford leads one.

Two still tied.

jimsumner
05-21-2019, 08:23 PM
Krauter finishes off Miranda Wang 2 & 1.

Duke leads 2-1, with two ties. Be nice if Carta would redeem herself with a clinching birdie.

DU82
05-21-2019, 08:43 PM
Still alive, barely. Carta’s opponent rimmed out a winning putt, so they go to hole 22.

Bluedog
05-21-2019, 09:02 PM
Tied through 22. Hope they can finish this before it gets too dark!

MCFinARL
05-21-2019, 09:20 PM
Carta and Wang still tied after 23. This is tense!

jimsumner
05-21-2019, 09:32 PM
Just do like the ACC baseball tournament.

Tie goes to the higher seed. :)

bullettoothtony
05-21-2019, 09:33 PM
Duke advances!

I feel for that girl from Texas. Brutal.

arnie
05-21-2019, 09:33 PM
Duke advances!

Never in doubt😀

DU82
05-21-2019, 09:34 PM
Survive and advance. Great approach and birdie putt by Virginia to win the match. Wang from Stanford played terrific golf down the stretch as well.

AustinDevil
05-21-2019, 09:34 PM
That was a clutch putt! Survive and advance! No guarantee #1 TEXAS is going to advance, by the way. Tied 2-2 and all square in the final match.

MCFinARL
05-21-2019, 09:34 PM
Duke advances!

I feel for that girl from Texas. Brutal.

Oh my, that was intense. Agree about the Texas golfer.

accfanfrom1970
05-21-2019, 09:37 PM
LGD. Loved the sinking of the putt and the reaction. Flipping between golf and baseball. Awesome.

Bluedog
05-21-2019, 09:38 PM
Great win!! All the lower seeds advance except Duke. Amazing that a team that shot 22 lower than another then gets eliminated in the first round of match play (Auburn taking down Texas). Duke v Zona next.

jimsumner
05-21-2019, 09:39 PM
For the record, I am getting a bit old for this sort of thing.

Tooold
05-21-2019, 09:40 PM
I feel for that girl from Texas. Brutal.

Please explain.

Tooold
05-21-2019, 09:41 PM
For the record, I am getting a bit old for this sort of thing.
My thoughts exactly. Every team seems to test my heart rate.

AGDukesky
05-21-2019, 09:43 PM
Wow all the matches were close and only Duke wins of the higher seeds

roywhite
05-21-2019, 09:47 PM
Wow all the matches were close and only Duke wins of the higher seeds

Well, this format may have some faults, but it certainly provided drama and interesting television this evening. Clutch performance by Virginia Elena Carta for the win.

chrishoke
05-21-2019, 09:58 PM
What's the format for tomorrow and when do we tee off?

AGDukesky
05-21-2019, 10:01 PM
What's the format for tomorrow and when do we tee off?

Same format - match play- and both semis start at 7:00

Will we see an all ACC final?

roywhite
05-21-2019, 10:02 PM
What's the format for tomorrow and when do we tee off?

Duke vs Arizona (6th seed and defending champion) match play; tee off at 7:00 Central time
Not sure if they will try to get the finals in tomorrow.

http://results.golfstat.com/public/leaderboards/gsnav.cfm?pg=match&tid=17029&rid=2

Bluedog
05-21-2019, 10:11 PM
Video of winning putt reaction by teammates:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1131010867242442753

And saved by the stakes...
https://twitter.com/i/status/1131012024295723008

bullettoothtony
05-21-2019, 10:19 PM
Please explain.


Texas golfer had a short putt and missed it. She knew missing it put her team in serious trouble, and her team did end up losing. I'm not saying it was all her fault obviously but you can imagine how one would feel given the circumstances.

She buried her face in her hands after she missed the putt.

nmduke2001
05-21-2019, 10:19 PM
By the way, several of the Duke players, (including Carta) used push carts today.

Tomorrow is going to be a long day after the delays and extra holes today.

Tooold
05-21-2019, 10:23 PM
Texas golfer had a short putt and missed it. She knew missing it put her team in serious trouble, and her team did end up losing. I'm not saying it was all her fault obviously but you can imagine how one would feel given the circumstances.

She buried her face in her hands after she missed the putt.

Thanks for the explanation. I had to keep turning off the coverage because I was getting way too nervous given what was happening in the Duke matches.

sagegrouse
05-21-2019, 10:25 PM
By the way, several of the Duke players, (including Carta) used push carts today.

Tomorrow is going to be a long day after the delays and extra holes today.

I would rather carry my bag than push one of those three-wheel contraptions that looks to be the size of a Smart car.

Kindly,
Sage
'I do carry occasionally (although not on my mountain course), but I usually find it convenient to take a lot fewer than 14 clubs (who needs a five wood and a three wood?)'

Pghdukie
05-22-2019, 12:17 AM
I would rather carry my bag than push one of those three-wheel contraptions that looks to be the size of a Smart car.

Kindly,
Sage
'I do carry occasionally (although not on my mountain course), but I usually find it convenient to take a lot fewer than 14 clubs (who needs a five wood and a three wood?)'
Sage, dont be so modest ! I've seen you shoot par with a Driver, Sw,Pw, 9,7 and 5 iron and a red hot putter !

msdukie
05-22-2019, 12:27 AM
Duke vs Arizona (6th seed and defending champion) match play; tee off at 7:00 Central time
Not sure if they will try to get the finals in tomorrow.

http://results.golfstat.com/public/leaderboards/gsnav.cfm?pg=match&tid=17029&rid=2

Yes, they are planning on getting the finals in tomorrow and the weather is supposed to be good for a change.

Chicago 1995
05-22-2019, 01:36 AM
Texas golfer had a short putt and missed it. She knew missing it put her team in serious trouble, and her team did end up losing. I'm not saying it was all her fault obviously but you can imagine how one would feel given the circumstances.

She buried her face in her hands after she missed the putt.

She’d missed several putts down the stretch. Really folded under the pressure. She’s a freshman and it really showed.

Gutty win for Elena Carta. Survived a number of close calls.

AGDukesky
05-22-2019, 08:19 AM
The first hole goes to Duke...

ice-9
05-22-2019, 09:26 AM
Sage, dont be so modest ! I've seen you shoot par with a Driver, Sw,Pw, 9,7 and 5 iron and a red hot putter !

That's my bag right there!! But substitute red hot for ice cold. And par for +50.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 09:36 AM
Duke and Wake Forest looking very strong thru 4-6 holes - Duke 3-1-1 and WF 4-0-1. Several golfers up multiple holes.

BD80
05-22-2019, 09:53 AM
Sage, dont be so modest ! I've seen you shoot par with a Driver, Sw,Pw, 9,7 and 5 iron and a red hot putter !

That sound likes my club selection on each and every hole! With multiple attacks with that red hot putter (the key is to keep it low). I often manage to shoot par several times over on multiple holes.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 10:24 AM
Duke and Arizona now all even at 2-2-1 thru 7-9 holes.

grossbus
05-22-2019, 10:40 AM
“I would rather carry my bag than push one of those three-wheel contraptions that looks to be the size of a Smart car. ”

Sage, The well made ones are very easy to move.

75Crazie
05-22-2019, 10:56 AM
Sage, The well made ones are very easy to move.
Particularly if you get one with tubes in the tires, instead of the usual plastic tires. Mine was a god-send once my legs got too aged to support carrying a bag for 18 holes.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 11:26 AM
Duke has now fallen behind on the back nine.

Bluedog
05-22-2019, 11:30 AM
Carta now the only one in the lead. And she was up 5 thru 9, now only up 2. Down in two matches (1 and 3 holes) and tied in two others. Still a lot of golf to play (thru 10-13). LGD!

Rich
05-22-2019, 11:31 AM
Duke has now fallen behind on the back nine.

9409

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 11:33 AM
WF has two points on the board, getting close to closing it out.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 12:06 PM
Duke has retaken the lead 3-2-0. Great coverage by the golf channel.

grossbus
05-22-2019, 12:08 PM
“Particularly if you get one with tubes in the tires, instead of the usual plastic tires.”

Part of what I meant by “well made.”



Go Duke. C’mon.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 12:15 PM
Arizona now has a point on the board.

DukieInKansas
05-22-2019, 12:21 PM
Question on match play - if someone is 6&4, do they finish playing the course or do they stop at that point?

Do the two teams that win their matches today then play each other for the championship?

Thank you for answering a non-golfer's questions.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 12:22 PM
Carta closes her match out. Both now have a point on the board.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 12:26 PM
WF advances to the championship match this pm. Congrats to them.

Bluedog
05-22-2019, 12:27 PM
Question on match play - if someone is 6&4, do they finish playing the course or do they stop at that point?

Do the two teams that win their matches today then play each other for the championship?

Thank you for answering a non-golfer's questions.

They stop once they've "won." Yes, the two teams that win today play each other for the championship with another 18 today.

CameronBlue
05-22-2019, 12:27 PM
Question on match play - if someone is 6&4, do they finish playing the course or do they stop at that point?

Do the two teams that win their matches today then play each other for the championship?

Thank you for answering a non-golfer's questions.

Well I have a question and I'm a golfer in the sense that I own golf clubs and use them on occasion (occasions may include self-defense and staking up my tomato plants.)

How are pairings determined? Golfers' stroke averages, coach's discretion, other?

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 12:47 PM
Arizona puts another point on the board with a chip in from the bunker on the 17th - they lead 2-1. Duke has to win the final 2 matches.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 12:56 PM
Duke and Belac ties it at 2-2. One match remaining - it's all even.

Rich
05-22-2019, 01:01 PM
Duke’s Kim up one thru 16. Tiebreaker match.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 01:01 PM
Duke's Kim goes 1 up with 2 holes to go!

53n206
05-22-2019, 01:06 PM
Duke up 3-2 with only Kim on course, as mentioned she's up 2-1 after 16. Crossing fingers.

DukieInKansas
05-22-2019, 01:07 PM
Biting fingernails here.

wilson
05-22-2019, 01:10 PM
Awful convenient of the golfstat live scoring site to crap out at this juncture.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 01:12 PM
Kim one up with one hole to play.

Tooold
05-22-2019, 01:13 PM
Awful convenient of the golfstat live scoring site to crap out at this juncture.
Thought it was just my internet

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 01:15 PM
Kim's drive finds the bunker, not a good lie.

DukieInKansas
05-22-2019, 01:16 PM
Thought it was just my internet

It's back - never mind - yesterday's scores.

wilson
05-22-2019, 01:17 PM
It's back - looks like Duke wins 3-2.Nah, the last match is on hole 18, and while Duke holds the lead in that match, #18 isn't off to a good start.

Bob Green
05-22-2019, 01:17 PM
It's back - looks like Duke wins 3-2.

Not yet. Final match still ongoing.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 01:20 PM
WOW what a shot by Kim!

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 01:23 PM
Duke wins!

DukieInKansas
05-22-2019, 01:25 PM
Nah, the last match is on hole 18, and while Duke holds the lead in that match, #18 isn't off to a good start.


Not yet. Final match still ongoing.

Figured out it opened to yesterday's scores just after I posted. But, I think it is now 3-2 final. Please don't burst my bubble and tell me that isn't true.

martydoesntfoul
05-22-2019, 01:26 PM
WOW what a shot by Kim!Please provide details!

DU82
05-22-2019, 01:26 PM
Great clutch play by Kim, especially her last three approach shots.

Championship match starts at 4PM EDT.

Tooold
05-22-2019, 01:27 PM
Figured out it opened to yesterday's scores just after I posted. But, I think it is now 3-2 final. Please don't burst my bubble and tell me that isn't true.

They did win! Kim hit an unbelievably good shot out of fairway bunker to within 2’ of the pin, just inches inside her competitor’s really good shot, and on the same line. Remarkable poise.

JasonEvans
05-22-2019, 01:28 PM
We will play Wake at 4pm for the National Title.

Gina Kim was the hero, holding on to win her match on the final hole with Duke and Arizona tied at 2.

Hingeknocker
05-22-2019, 01:28 PM
Please provide details!

Kim's drive on 18 found the fairway bunker, with a not-great stance. Didn't matter; her approach shot ended up 3-ish feet from the hole. A truly amazing bunker shot.

Her Arizona opponent hit a similarly great approach shot, but was still just outside of Kim's and on the same line. Both made the short birdie putt, Duke wins!

DU82
05-22-2019, 01:28 PM
Please provide details!

Kim was in a fairway bunker, thirty yards behind her opponent who was in the fairway. She stuck the shot with three feet. The Arizona player followed by putting her shot about six inches behind. Two great golf shots, and both made their putts. Kim was up one, so she won the match.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 01:29 PM
Please provide details!

Her drive found a fairway bunker, she had a bad lie below her feet, her opponent's drive was about 40 yds further in the fairway - and all she does is knock it within three feet of the hole.

53n206
05-22-2019, 01:33 PM
Looked closer than 3 feet. Winner!!! We advance!!

grossbus
05-22-2019, 01:40 PM
Started watching as VEC won her match. Things went immediately downhill.

I stopped watching.

We won.

Conflicted about watching finals this pm. :confused:

DukieInKansas
05-22-2019, 01:41 PM
How did we do against Wake during the season?

sagegrouse
05-22-2019, 01:42 PM
Freshman Gina finished 3-3-3 to win the match -- kick in birdies on 16 and 18. Bianca from AZ played well too, but not well enough.

accfanfrom1970
05-22-2019, 01:45 PM
How did we do against Wake during the season?

The Duke women did finish 3rd in the ACC tournament behind Florida State (2nd) and Wake (1st).

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 02:38 PM
We will play Wake at 4pm for the National Title.

Gina Kim was the hero, holding on to win her match on the final hole with Duke and Arizona tied at 2.

I believe the finals begin at 3 pm eastern.

Rich
05-22-2019, 02:49 PM
The Duke women did finish 3rd in the ACC tournament behind Florida State (2nd) and Wake (1st).

I would give the edge to Wake right now. They had a much easier semifinal, mentally and physically, winning 4-0-1, including matches of 7&5 and 6&4. It will be tough for duke to stay focused after playing so many meaningful holes in the morning.

I never understood why they don't extend the tournament by a day and let them play the finals the day after the semis rather than AM/PM. Doesn't make sense to me - it becomes more a war of attrition than golf skill.

nmduke2001
05-22-2019, 03:06 PM
I would give the edge to Wake right now. They had a much easier semifinal, mentally and physically, winning 4-0-1, including matches of 7&5 and 6&4. It will be tough for duke to stay focused after playing so many meaningful holes in the morning.

I never understood why they don't extend the tournament by a day and let them play the finals the day after the semis rather than AM/PM. Doesn't make sense to me - it becomes more a war of attrition than golf skill.

I believe that if the weather was not a factor, today was supposed to be only the final match, but I could be mistaken.

Bob Green
05-22-2019, 03:20 PM
Championship Match has begun:

http://results.golfstat.com/public/leaderboards/gsnav.cfm?pg=match&tid=17029&rid=3

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 03:22 PM
We are underway. Tied after 1 hole. Let's go Devils! We want #7!

duke79
05-22-2019, 03:24 PM
I would give the edge to Wake right now. They had a much easier semifinal, mentally and physically, winning 4-0-1, including matches of 7&5 and 6&4. It will be tough for duke to stay focused after playing so many meaningful holes in the morning.

I never understood why they don't extend the tournament by a day and let them play the finals the day after the semis rather than AM/PM. Doesn't make sense to me - it becomes more a war of attrition than golf skill.

Yea, I'm worried about Duke's physical and psychological state after the tough morning matches. Wake had much easier matches and finished much earlier, so a LOT more time to recover and get ready for the afternoon matches. Plus, I believe that when you have to expend the psychological concentration and effort to win those close matches, there tends to be a letdown that is not easy to reverse on short notice. BUT we do have coach Brooks. He's been in this rodeo more than a few times before and knows how to get his team ready to play for the championship!

And I also agree that that they should not have to play 36 holes (or so) in one day. Let them rest overnight and play for the championship the next day.

duke79
05-22-2019, 03:28 PM
Freshman Gina finished 3-3-3 to win the match -- kick in birdies on 16 and 18. Bianca from AZ played well too, but not well enough.

Incredibly clutch shots by Gina Kim, especially on 17 (to win the hole and go one up) and then from the bunker on 18 (not a great lie and she knocked it "stiff" - one of the all-time great clutch shots, under the circumstances, that I have seen in many years of watching golf). She has nerves of steel, at the age of 18 or 19.

Go Duke !

heyman25
05-22-2019, 03:43 PM
Of all of Duke sports basketball is my favorite spectator sport.However in my opinion the best team in Duke sports over time has been Duke Women's Golf. I think Wake Forest will be a huge challenge, but our team keeps pulling off pressure win after pressure win. Best of luck to them and I hope they win the NCAA championship.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 03:44 PM
WF is up 3-0-2 after a handful of holes.

Rich
05-22-2019, 03:46 PM
Incredibly clutch shots by Gina Kim, especially on 17 (to win the hole and go one up) and then from the bunker on 18 (not a great lie and she knocked it "stiff" - one of the all-time great clutch shots, under the circumstances, that I have seen in many years of watching golf). She has nerves of steel, at the age of 18 or 19.

Go Duke !

If anyone finds video of the bunker shot on 18, please post a link.

Steven43
05-22-2019, 03:58 PM
WF is up 3-0-2 after a handful of holes.

Darn it!! This is a fellow ACC team. Can’t lose to them for the National Championship. Just can’t.

Steven43
05-22-2019, 04:04 PM
WF is up 3-0-2 after a handful of holes.
Does that mean Wake is leading 3 matches and Duke is leading in 2 of them? If so, I’m not too worried.

duke79
05-22-2019, 04:04 PM
If anyone finds video of the bunker shot on 18, please post a link.

https://twitter.com/golfcentral?lang=en

Scroll down on the "Golf Central" twitter page. The video of this shot is embedded there. I'd put this shot in the same category as Austin River's three-pointer against Carolina - maybe even better!

duke79
05-22-2019, 04:07 PM
Does that mean Wake is leading 3 matches and Duke is leading in 2 of them? If so, I’m not too worried.

Now.......3-2-0, in favor or Wake. Means Wake is leading in 3 matches; Duke leading in 2 matches, and no matches are even. 3-0-2 means one team is leading in 3 matches and 2 matches are all even.

Steven43
05-22-2019, 04:13 PM
Now....3-2-0, in favor or Wake. Means Wake is leading in 3 matches; Duke leading in 2 matches, and no matches are even. 3-0-2 means one team is leading in 3 matches and 2 matches are all even.

Thanks for clarifying. Is Duke within very close striking distance in the three matches they are losing?

Rich
05-22-2019, 04:15 PM
Does that mean Wake is leading 3 matches and Duke is leading in 2 of them? If so, I’m not too worried.


Now...3-2-0, in favor or Wake. Means Wake is leading in 3 matches; Duke leading in 2 matches, and no matches are even. 3-0-2 means one team is leading in 3 matches and 2 matches are all even.

It's easy enough to follow the scoring at http://results.golfstat.com/public/leaderboards/gsnav.cfm?pg=match&tid=17029&rid=3, but be prepared for the roller coaster that is NCAA College Golf match play.

Rich
05-22-2019, 04:16 PM
It's easy enough to follow the scoring at http://results.golfstat.com/public/leaderboards/gsnav.cfm?pg=match&tid=17029&rid=3, but be prepared for the roller coaster that is NCAA College Golf match play.

And just as I type that it's now 1-1-3 (one each, and 3 all tied)

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 04:34 PM
Boonchant sinks a 30 foot birdie to keep her match even.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 05:10 PM
We are tied at 1-1-3 as we near the half way point

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 05:24 PM
That was quick. Duke now down 1-4.

Steven43
05-22-2019, 05:31 PM
That was quick. Duke now down 1-4.

Oh my gosh, no.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 05:41 PM
WF is playing really well and it may be our women are tiring a bit.

94duke
05-22-2019, 05:44 PM
WF now up 3-0-2.
O.o

bullettoothtony
05-22-2019, 05:50 PM
Long way to go...

94duke
05-22-2019, 05:54 PM
Long way to go...

Yep. now square in three matches.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 06:08 PM
Kim has a great chance to pull even on the 11th.

devildeac
05-22-2019, 06:12 PM
Kim has a great chance to pull even on the 11th.

Yep. WFU up 1-0-4 now

jimsumner
05-22-2019, 06:19 PM
Back even at 1-1-3. Down to the wire looms. Fatigue could decide this. Both teams have played a lot of golf lately. A lot.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 06:21 PM
The back nine of this course is amazing and extremely challenging - we are seeing some incredible shots.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 06:35 PM
Duke now trails 1-4, but all four are just a one hole advantage. It's getting close to crunch time.

arnie
05-22-2019, 07:02 PM
Duke now trails 1-4, but all four are just a one hole advantage. It's getting close to crunch time.

I turned it on 15 minutes ago and all Duke since I started watching. Match is now tied. 1-1-3.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 07:02 PM
We have pulled even at 1-1-3.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 07:18 PM
I turned it on 15 minutes ago and all Duke since I started watching. Match is now tied. 1-1-3.

This is must see TV. Cut the tension with a knife.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 07:20 PM
Duke now leads 2-1-2.

arnie
05-22-2019, 07:31 PM
Duke now leads 2-1-2.

These matches are so close, this thing could last another hour easy.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 07:31 PM
Carta finishes 18 holes still tied.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 07:35 PM
Duke has a point on the board.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 07:39 PM
The 4 remaining matches are tied.

bullettoothtony
05-22-2019, 07:40 PM
What a shot by Carta

bullettoothtony
05-22-2019, 07:41 PM
Omg... missed birdie, she thought she had it...

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 07:47 PM
This will be heartbreaking for whoever finishes second. Incredible drama.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 07:51 PM
Now tied at 1-1.

Bluedog
05-22-2019, 07:52 PM
Omg... missed birdie, she thought she had it...

Who missed? Duke or WFU? Just curious if this was a good or bad thing. Sounds bad...

Tom B.
05-22-2019, 07:53 PM
Now tied at 1-1.

How do they break ties? Do the tied matches just keep playing extra sudden death holes until someone wins?

dukie’s_daughter
05-22-2019, 07:54 PM
How do they break ties? Do the tied matches just keep playing extra sudden death holes until someone wins?
By going back to 1
Now 2-1 DUKE!

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 07:54 PM
Duke leads 2-1.

wilson
05-22-2019, 07:55 PM
How do they break ties? Do the tied matches just keep playing extra sudden death holes until someone wins?Yes, and there’s an odd number of matches (5), so no possibility of an overall tie.

bullettoothtony
05-22-2019, 07:55 PM
Who missed? Duke or WFU? Just curious if this was a good or bad thing. Sounds bad...


My bad.. we missed a birdie at the time.

Kupcho (WF) goes down... huge.

She looked a little salty too I think...

DU82
05-22-2019, 07:56 PM
How do they break ties? Do the tied matches just keep playing extra sudden death holes until someone wins?

Play until somebody wins a hole. Carta went 24 holes yesterday.

Duke up 2-1, with two matches to go past 18.

Tom B.
05-22-2019, 07:57 PM
Play until somebody wins a hole. carts went 24 holes yesterday.

Duke up 2-1, with two matches to go past 18.

So if Duke goes 1-up in either of the two remaining matches, Duke wins, right?

DU82
05-22-2019, 07:58 PM
So if Duke goes 1-up in either of the two remaining matches, Duke wins, right?

That is correct. Carta is on 2, Wang is on one, but in some trouble off the green.

Correction, Carta’s match is on the 15th. Not sure of the order of the extra holes.

burnspbesq
05-22-2019, 08:03 PM
Superb up-and-down by Wang

arnie
05-22-2019, 08:05 PM
Superb up-and-down by Wang

Insane. 2-2 with last match tied and extra holes.

DU82
05-22-2019, 08:06 PM
Carta lost in a great match, all up to Wang now.

burnspbesq
05-22-2019, 08:06 PM
Two-all.

burnspbesq
05-22-2019, 08:09 PM
Wang is in good shape off the tee, but the Wake player may have a problem.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 08:10 PM
It all comes down to Ms. Wang.

Steven43
05-22-2019, 08:10 PM
Excruciating. Had Wang’s putt on 18 not lipped out Duke would already be National Champs.

Bluedog
05-22-2019, 08:12 PM
Excruciating. Had Wang’s putt on 18 not lipped out Duke would already be National Champs.

Conversely, Arizona had a player lip out a putt to defeat Duke on 19 (?), So could go both ways. Razor thin margin. Let's go Duke!!

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 08:12 PM
Wang is in good shape off the tee, but the Wake player may have a problem.

And she is a freshman.

burnspbesq
05-22-2019, 08:13 PM
Wake player”s second shot goes for a swim.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 08:13 PM
WF in the water.

Bluedog
05-22-2019, 08:14 PM
Yes!!! In the water. Play it safe/smart.

Steven43
05-22-2019, 08:15 PM
Conversely, Arizona had a player lip out a putt to defeat Duke on 19 (?), So could go both ways. Razor thin margin. Let's go Duke!!

The Arizona match is old news — at least 5 or 6 hours ago!

burnspbesq
05-22-2019, 08:15 PM
Not a great second for Wang, but she has a very malleable par, and Bagnoli is in deep trouble.

arnie
05-22-2019, 08:15 PM
WF in the water.

Bib, big advantage for us

Tom B.
05-22-2019, 08:21 PM
Feels like Belac won her match like three weeks ago.

BD80
05-22-2019, 08:22 PM
I turned it on just as the WF player yanked it into the water. Y'all welcome.

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 08:22 PM
Wang looks loose.

Tooold
05-22-2019, 08:23 PM
Apparently there are no time limits on her taking her shot....

Tooold
05-22-2019, 08:24 PM
Hope Wang has been able to maintain her focus over the last 15 minutes....

Bluedog
05-22-2019, 08:25 PM
Apparently there are no time limits on her taking her shot...

Yep this is ridiculous.

DU82
05-22-2019, 08:25 PM
Apparently there are no time limits on her taking her shot...

If it were a lost ball, then I believe the new rule is 3cminutes. But this is a different situation, and for the championship, so 12 minutes isn’t unreasonable.

Three shots for Wang to win.

DU82
05-22-2019, 08:28 PM
National Champions!

devildeac
05-22-2019, 08:30 PM
National Champions!

That'll be a few extra Director's Club points :D!

Bluedog
05-22-2019, 08:31 PM
Woo hoo! Maybe I'm crazy but why do you concede that putt?? Can't you force us to make it? Seemed oddly anticlimactic to win after not making the shot.

grossbus
05-22-2019, 08:31 PM
Outstanding! Was afraid to watch. They never play well when I do. Was recording so I could watch if, we won, but the matches went beyond the allotted time, so I don’t have the end. Oh well.

Congrats Ladies.

Steven43
05-22-2019, 08:31 PM
Seven!!!!!!!!!!!

TruBlu
05-22-2019, 08:31 PM
Change the thread title?

chrishoke
05-22-2019, 08:32 PM
#7. Congrats to our gritty team. Such a fun day.

nmduke2001
05-22-2019, 08:33 PM
What a gritty week by those young ladies. Congrats!

MCFinARL
05-22-2019, 08:35 PM
Well, that was the most exciting and tense golf I have ever watched. A little surprised the WF golfer was allowed to take so long deciding how to deal with that drop, including walking almost all the way to the green and back--but if the rules allow it I guess they allow it.

Yeah Duke! Now let's see what the men can do on the same course.

ice-9
05-22-2019, 08:36 PM
Wow this is making me really want to wipe off the dust on that golf bag and go play a few rounds. What an exciting few days of women’s golf!

Bob Green
05-22-2019, 08:37 PM
Change the thread title?

With pleasure. :cool:

duketaylor
05-22-2019, 08:45 PM
for Dan Brooks!!!!! Just texted him. Brooks Field at Wally Wade is awesome.
Way to go young ladies!!!! Duke wins another Natty!!!! Let's go LAX!!!!

WV_Iron_Duke
05-22-2019, 08:48 PM
Watched the entire round.:) Best match play round I have ever seen:cool:

wilson
05-22-2019, 08:57 PM
That was genuinely thrilling. Go Devils!

AZLA
05-22-2019, 09:00 PM
But when I do...

Wow Duke just won all the marbles!

That was some seriously high drama. I happened to see notes on this board today about the matches, and then picked up the tourney when Wake had 3 players ahead and then Duke reeled them in, even with a few stumbles. I was as certain as Miranda Wang was when she hit that putt on 18 that it was in the hole -- how did that stay out of the hole? That would have ended it right there. But it was reassuring to see her keep her smile and stay positive mentally. Boonchant also was up 1 but lost the 18th hole, but somehow stayed chill, and beat the current #1 player in women's amateur golf -- epic. Even though the Duke program is elite with many previous championships, this team felt like the underdogs. But for Miranda to just consistently hit clutch shots down the middle and not lose composure was great to watch. Bagnoli's shot was unfortunate -- trying to reach in 2 left to right around the tree (looked like she double-crossed it) -- and putting it into the drink was tough.

Ok to conclude the pull-cart versus carrying a bag -- I reverse my opinion. Pull-carts with comfortable seats are very much the best option when you're in the last match play in extra holes waiting for over 12 minutes for your opponent to choose their drop position. Then you casually chip up and 2 putt for victory.

Well done Duke.

CameronBlue
05-22-2019, 09:07 PM
But when I do...

Wow Duke just won all the marbles!

That was some seriously high drama. I happened to see notes on this board today about the matches, and then picked up the tourney when Wake had 3 players ahead and then Duke reeled them in, even with a few stumbles. I was as certain as Miranda Wang was when she hit that putt on 18 that it was in the hole -- how did that stay out of the hole? That would have ended it right there. But it was reassuring to see her keep her smile and stay positive mentally. Boonchant also was up 1 but lost the 18th hole, but somehow stayed chill, and beat the current #1 player in women's amateur golf -- epic. Even though the Duke program is elite with many previous championships, this team felt like the underdogs. But for Miranda to just consistently hit clutch shots down the middle and not lose composure was great to watch. Bagnoli's shot was unfortunate -- trying to reach in 2 left to right around the tree (looked like she double-crossed it) -- and putting it into the drink was tough.

Ok to conclude the pull-cart versus carrying a bag -- I reverse my opinion. Pull-carts with comfortable seats are very much the best option when you're in the last match play in extra holes waiting for over 12 minutes for your opponent to choose their drop position. Then you casually chip up and 2 putt for victory.

Well done Duke.

Neither Boonchant nor Wang had won a match prior to the Finals. Duke won each round 3-2 so clearly today was the perfect time for them to hit their stride. Still the best effort may have been turned in by Carta if the measure is raw grit and clutch shot making.

SoCalDukeFan
05-22-2019, 09:17 PM
All of the players can be very proud of themselves for their contribution to the NC.

Virginia Elena Carta won the deciding match in the quarters on the 24th hole.
Gina Kim won the deciding match in the semis when she made birdie on 18. She also hit an incredible shot in the quarters.
Ana Belac won all three of her matches and made a great up and down on 18 in the quarters to secure that win.
Jaravee Boonchant defeated number 1 ranker Jennifer Kupcho in the finals.
Miranda Wang won the deciding match for the National Championship.

This is just a tremendously exciting event to watch on TV. Duke won all 3 matches 3-2. Of the 9 wins, 4 were on extra holes and I think 3 of the others came down to the 18 hole.
Several players made just great shots when they had to, or else someone else would have won.

SoCal






SoCal

roywhite
05-22-2019, 09:31 PM
for Dan Brooks!!!!! Just texted him. Brooks Field at Wally Wade is awesome.
Way to go young ladies!!!! Duke wins another Natty!!!! Let's go LAX!!!!

Seven sounds like a goal for you, Coach K!

And watch out for that Danowski guy, too; he's sneaking up with 3 in hand and a possible 4th this weekend!

Seriously -- what a blessing to have the caliber of head coaches that Duke University has!

heyman25
05-22-2019, 09:34 PM
Great to see the team celebrating on the Golf Channel. Didn't even know it was on my Comcast settings while working in Savannah Georgia. Hope they get invited to the White House. Ana Belac is a Sloveninian National like Melania Trump.

roywhite
05-22-2019, 09:43 PM
Great to see the team celebrating on the Golf Channel. Didn't even know it was on my Comcast settings while working in Savannah Georgia. Hope they get invited to the White House. Ana Belac is a Sloveninian National like Melania Trump.

Ana Belac -- Portoroz, Slovenia
Jaravee Boonchant -- Bangkok, Thailand
Virginia Elena Carta -- Udine, Italy
Miranda Wang -- Beijing, China
Gina Kim -- Chapel Hill, NC

4 from foreign countries (or is it 5?)

Maybe the victory ceremony is at the United Nations?

Rich
05-22-2019, 10:52 PM
Holy crap, I taped the golf but turned on live TV a few hours ago and thought I saw on the scroll that Wake won 3-2. I said to my wife I can’t believe I taped the whole thing and just saw the final score. I decided to watch anyway.

When the WF ball went into the water I thought how the heck did we lose this match? Imagine my surprise when the outcome was 3-2 the other way.

Congrats Duke Blue Devils Women’s Golf National Champions!!!