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Atldukie79
08-06-2018, 08:02 AM
What a terrific find! I must defer watching the whole game until after work hours. But please note, this game was from Feb. 1976, not 1975. (It was the 1975-1976 season).

Interesting to look at the crowd shots, the band, the cheerleaders and to see how the whole experience has evolved!

DtrainBuckshot
08-06-2018, 08:21 AM
Link?

sagegrouse
08-06-2018, 08:43 AM
Link?

Front Page.

75Crazie
08-06-2018, 08:52 AM
Two thoughts: (1) It is so nice to see shots of the pre-cartoon-head Blue Devil (2) Big hair is just not a good look on a basketball player.

94duke
08-06-2018, 09:15 AM
here's the link, for when it falls off the front of the page...
https://www.dukebasketballreport.com/2018/8/5/17652736/youtube-gold-dukes-1975-upset-of-maryland-acc-basketball

94duke
08-06-2018, 09:17 AM
wow. no press row, and the baskets are not hanging from the ceiling.

CDu
08-06-2018, 09:24 AM
wow. no press row, and the baskets are not hanging from the ceiling.

And male cheerleaders.

Rich
08-06-2018, 09:51 AM
Duke fans behind the Maryland bench AND right behind the scorer's table.

Anyone know what the logo on the court is?

And, to copy the one comment to the video, so that’s what rushing the court looks like in Cameron.

CDu
08-06-2018, 10:13 AM
Duke fans behind the Maryland bench AND right behind the scorer's table.

This was the way it was as recently as the early-2000s. Only after students started

Other things I've noticed:

1. Are those badminton court lines? Or other basketball court lines? Funny to see either way.
2. The degree of physicality was WAY less back then.


Anyone know what the logo on the court is?

Looks like an old-school Duke devil logo.

CDu
08-06-2018, 10:48 AM
Duke played some great stallball in that one. :)

Over 3 minutes without even attempting a shot down the stretch. And then another minute doing it on the next possession! Not sure why they didn't just give the ball to Armstrong and Crow for the entire last 5 minutes of the game, instead of ever risking passing it to any of the crappier free throw shooters.

arnie
08-06-2018, 11:07 AM
What a terrific find! I must defer watching the whole game until after work hours. But please note, this game was from Feb. 1976, not 1975. (It was the 1975-1976 season).

Interesting to look at the crowd shots, the band, the cheerleaders and to see how the whole experience has evolved!

This is great! But why is the game available as I’ve never found a replay of the 1978 Final Four?

CameronBlue
08-06-2018, 11:30 AM
Two thoughts: (2) Big hair is just not a good look on a basketball player.

The pornstar mustaches and mutton chops notwithstanding.

-jk
08-06-2018, 12:22 PM
...
2. The degree of physicality was WAY less back then.
...

Sigh... I miss flowy hoops.

-jk

accfanfrom1970
08-06-2018, 01:47 PM
Was that Max in the awful gold leisure suit?

duke79
08-06-2018, 04:45 PM
Two thoughts: (1) It is so nice to see shots of the pre-cartoon-head Blue Devil (2) Big hair is just not a good look on a basketball player.


The pornstar mustaches and mutton chops notwithstanding.


Was that Max in the awful gold leisure suit?

I believe I was at that game (would have been my freshman year) but don't really have any memory of it (42 years does deteriorate your brain cells!).

It WAS an ugly time in the country's history - ugly clothes, ugly hair styles; even the court looked ugly. Thank God the 70's are over.

Also, if you looked at the fans in that replay, almost no one with blue face paint on or wearing Duke basketball jerseys or Duke-blue wigs, etc. People just showed up to the games in their "regular" college clothes.

Tooold
08-06-2018, 04:50 PM
Wow! This warrants my first ever post. I was there and it was fun to see Terry Chili sink those free throws to help us win. This video reminds me how good Tate was. Also, I remember Mark Crow being deadly from the corners. Students behind Lefty always wore the skin caps, and when Lefty had his leg in a cast, they paced behind him with fake casts. I see a lot of friends in this video...team members, cheerleaders, and even pep band members. What a memory!

BandAlum83
08-06-2018, 04:55 PM
Wow! This warrants my first ever post. I was there and it was fun to see Terry Chili sink those free throws to help us win. This video reminds me how good Tate was. Also, I remember Mark Crow being deadly from the corners. Students behind Lefty always wore the skin caps, and when Lefty had his leg in a cast, they paced behind him with fake casts. I see a lot of friends in this video...team members, cheerleaders, and even pep band members. What a memory!

HUH?

EVEN pep band members? As though pep band members aren't worthy of some love and friendship!?

Yes, I was a proud "Band Geek"

Tooold
08-06-2018, 05:02 PM
HUH?

EVEN pep band members? As though pep band members aren't worthy of some love and friendship!?

Yes, I was a proud "Band Geek"

Whoops. Didn't mean it that way. Some of my best friends were pep band members!

chrishoke
08-06-2018, 05:03 PM
I remember that game mainly because Duke was so down in those days. I was a junior at Carolina, but I would drive to Durham to go to all Duke home games with my dad. We had sweet tater Armstrong and not much else. Spanarkle was a freshman and gave us hope that Foster could recruit - we were right about that - three straight ACC rookies of the year. That game was a huge upset and the win was a cathartic explosion in Cameron. I can't wait to watch the full game.

mgtr
08-06-2018, 07:54 PM
Interesting to an outsider. I didn't follow Duke bball until the Coach K era (just worked out that way), and the only player on the team that I had heard of was Spanarkel. Sorry, but I never heard of Armstrong or Chili (both looked pretty good to me). Neither the students nor the cheerleaders seemed organized, a clear difference from today. I now remember how much I hated leisure suits (though, of course I had one, not, however, yellow!).

OZZIE4DUKE
08-06-2018, 08:34 PM
Wow! This warrants my first ever post. I was there and it was fun to see Terry Chili sink those free throws to help us win. This video reminds me how good Tate was. Also, I remember Mark Crow being deadly from the corners. Students behind Lefty always wore the skin caps, and when Lefty had his leg in a cast, they paced behind him with fake casts. I see a lot of friends in this video...team members, cheerleaders, and even pep band members. What a memory!


I remember that game mainly because Duke was so down in those days. I was a junior at Carolina, but I would drive to Durham to go to all Duke home games with my dad. We had sweet tater Armstrong and not much else. Spanarkle was a freshman and gave us hope that Foster could recruit - we were right about that - three straight ACC rookies of the year. That game was a huge upset and the win was a cathartic explosion in Cameron. I can't wait to watch the full game.
I was there, sitting behind the Maryland bench. I was the guy with the air horn! Lefty absolutely hated me! I met him at an Iron Duke tailgate about 10’years ago and told him who I was. He smiled and remembered the air horn. He forgave me. Sort of. :)

To say that was cathartic is a huge understatement! We beat Maryland my freshman year (‘73, the Gary Melchioni game) and the the Twerps again in ‘76. Lost to every other decent team in between. 76 is still the second loudest I’ve ever heard it in Cameron!

I sent Julio an email when the article was published telling him m about the correct year.

CameronBornAndBred
08-06-2018, 08:45 PM
I was a 6 year old fuzzy blob sitting in the upstairs front row with my parents, across from the Maryland bench. So cool to see Cameron how it was when I first went to games.

Tooold
08-06-2018, 09:16 PM
the only player on the team that I had heard of was Spanarkel. Sorry, but I never heard of Armstrong or Chili (both looked pretty good to me). Neither the students nor the cheerleaders seemed organized, a clear difference from today.).

Tate was drafted by the Bulls. I believe he was one of the better players Duke recruited during that era, and maybe helped pave the way for recruitment of Spanarkel, Gminski, and Gene Banks. Terry Chili didn't get so much playing time as the other bigs--he was a senior in this game and got more time due to foul trouble. He was tall, but not known for ball-handling or shooting, which is why his FTs to end game were so sweet. Our cheers were not as organized as today, but we thought we were very clever. We did pick on the visiting team.

chrishoke
08-06-2018, 09:33 PM
Tate was drafted by the Bulls. I believe he was one of the better players Duke recruited during that era, and maybe helped pave the way for recruitment of Spanarkel, Gminski, and Gene Banks. Terry Chili didn't get so much playing time as the other bigs--he was a senior in this game and got more time due to foul trouble. He was tall, but not known for ball-handling or shooting, which is why his FTs to end game were so sweet. Our cheers were not as organized as today, but we thought we were very clever. We did pick on the visiting team.

And very, very loud.

CDu
08-06-2018, 09:58 PM
And very, very loud.

That is the thing: organization is overrated. Volume and energy is all you really need. You don’t need stock cheers to be a good crowd; if anything I think that can take a bit away from the hostility of the environment. Just let the noise reign. Early, and consistently. Let them hear you on every possession, to the point of uncomfortability.

Newton_14
08-06-2018, 11:21 PM
So glad JD posted the link! I watched the entire game (except that it only showed the first half and then last 8 minutes of the 2nd Half. Hodge had already fouled out.)

I was 9 years old. Tate Armstrong was my very first Duke hero. Loved that dude! He could ball! Spanarkel and Armstrong made up an outstanding backcourt. I had forgotten that Crow was a pretty darn good player as was Hodge. All four of those guys averaged double figures. Chili was a character! I loved the emotion when he knocked down those critical free throws.

Great great memories!

Like CDu or someone upstream stated, the game was A LOT less physical back then. For years and years it seems, the ACC was known as a "touch foul" league that ultimately would hurt our teams once they got into the NCAA Tourney and players didn't get calls they had been getting all year long. (Sort of like JJ in the 06 LSU game, but I digress)

No shot clock, no 3 point line, yet the game flowed beautifully. The post players didn't kill each other in hand to hand combat fighting over space, etc. Just a beautiful game of flowing basketball as it should be played.

Now get off my lawn!

75Crazie
08-06-2018, 11:45 PM
That game was quite possibly the beginning of the end of the bad Duke basketball of the 70s … or at least was a harbinger of things to come. Most people think that '77-'78 was the year of Duke's emergence, but the '76-'77 team had a very good nucleus (adding Gminski to Armstrong, Spanarkel, and Crow, along with a competent fifth man in Morrison) and could have made some noise in the postseason. It just did not have the depth to recover from Armstrong's season-ending injury midway through the year; it was a shame that he did not get his chance at post-season play.

Can somebody refresh my memory … was Armstrong a McGeachy recruit, or was Foster in the picture by then?

sagegrouse
08-07-2018, 12:05 AM
Tate was drafted by the Bulls. I believe he was one of the better players Duke recruited during that era, and maybe helped pave the way for recruitment of Spanarkel, Gminski, and Gene Banks. Terry Chili didn't get so much playing time as the other bigs--he was a senior in this game and got more time due to foul trouble. He was tall, but not known for ball-handling or shooting, which is why his FTs to end game were so sweet. Our cheers were not as organized as today, but we thought we were very clever. We did pick on the visiting team.

I believe Tate won a gold medal at the Montreal Olympics. (Dean loaded the team with ACC players to cover up the fact that there were four Tar Heels on the squad.)

I guess we got a bunch of basketball golds:

Jeff Mullins
Tate
Christian
Grant
Boozer
Kyrie

Who else?

Tooold
08-07-2018, 07:37 AM
Can somebody refresh my memory … was Armstrong a McGeachy recruit, or was Foster in the picture by then?

I believe Tate preceded Foster...Tate arrived on campus in the fall of '73, along with the great class of 1977. I think Foster came the next year, but someone please correct me.

HereBeforeCoachK
08-07-2018, 07:56 AM
That is the thing: organization is overrated. Volume and energy is all you really need. You don’t need stock cheers to be a good crowd; if anything I think that can take a bit away from the hostility of the environment. Just let the noise reign. Early, and consistently. Let them hear you on every possession, to the point of uncomfortability.

And without press row as a buffer, it was more intimidating then...(of course, Duke's team was not...)

And I'd forgotten the Mizlou ISO LITE...how lame. The pep band tams! And for real? Schlitz as a sponsor? Also loved Willie Hodge.

VA_BDevil
08-07-2018, 09:30 AM
Great to see this old video. The announcing crew seemed to have fun. Was that Chevy Chase playing the role of announcer Howard David (see around the 1:20 mark)?

I recall the crowd having some fun with the Twerps' Brian Magid ("shoot Maggot!") during his visits to Cameron.

Devil549
08-07-2018, 10:28 AM
I think I was at the game, up stairs bought tickets at game at ticket window....times have changed.

Here are some Facts as I remember them:
1- Tate recruited by Coach Waters and did not play a lot his freshmen year....IIRC first year freshmen eligibility came back. He worked super hard summer between his Frosh and Soph year and his career took off. Jack Marin thru Jeff Newlin who played for Houston Rockets found out about Tate...Tate worked out with Newlin that summer and made tremendous improvement. Armstrong was always in unbelievable shape always working out. One of the best at Duke during a down time. My wife named one of our sons Tate because he always thought he was "hot" her words not mind. Funny side bar is two of our friends named their sons Tate got the name from us and are UNC fans.
2- Edgar Burch was the guard that played more Tate's freshmen year....he transferred IIRC after Frosh season.
3- Moses was a juco Foster brought in I think Military vet.
4- Mark Crow like Armstrong played more later in career.
5- Watching Willie Hodge in the video IMO he would have been a better player if you could dunk back then he never had a great touch and would get called for a foul in a heart beat.
6- Yes if Armstrong stays healthy with the addition of Gminski his freshmen year they were a decent team until Tate got hurt.
7- Yes Armstrong on Olympic team but Dean did not play him very much and Tate was looking forward to playing UNC his SR but got hurt early in ACC season IIRC in first ACC game at UVA.

HereBeforeCoachK
08-07-2018, 10:45 AM
I think I was at the game, up stairs bought tickets at game at ticket window...times have changed.

Here are some Facts as I remember them:
1- Tate recruited by Coach Waters and did not play a lot his freshmen year...IIRC first year freshmen eligibility came back. He worked super hard summer between his Frosh and Soph year and his career took off. Jack Marin thru Jeff Newlin who played for Houston Rockets found out about Tate...Tate worked out with Newlin that summer and made tremendous improvement. Armstrong was always in unbelievable shape always working out. One of the best at Duke during a down time. My wife named one of our sons Tate because he always thought he was "hot" her words not mind. Funny side bar is two of our friends named their sons Tate got the name from us and are UNC fans.
2- Edgar Burch was the guard that played more Tate's freshmen year...he transferred IIRC after Frosh season.
3- Moses was a juco Foster brought in I think Military vet.
4- Mark Crow like Armstrong played more later in career.
5- Watching Willie Hodge in the video IMO he would have been a better player if you could dunk back then he never had a great touch and would get called for a foul in a heart beat.
6- Yes if Armstrong stays healthy with the addition of Gminski his freshmen year they were a decent team until Tate got hurt.
7- Yes Armstrong on Olympic team but Dean did not play him very much and Tate was looking forward to playing UNC his SR but got hurt early in ACC season IIRC in first ACC game at UVA.

I had forgotten that George Moses was on that team, but yeah, a very rare transfer in for Duke. I always liked him. And I agree with you about Hodge and dunking...or maybe he just needed more consistency. He could be spectacular for a half, then disappear. I remember one game v WFU he had 18 at half and finished with 20. Typical Hodge.

TruBlu
08-07-2018, 10:52 AM
I think I was at the game, up stairs bought tickets at game at ticket window...times have changed.

Here are some Facts as I remember them:
1- Tate recruited by Coach Waters and did not play a lot his freshmen year...IIRC first year freshmen eligibility came back. He worked super hard summer between his Frosh and Soph year and his career took off. Jack Marin thru Jeff Newlin who played for Houston Rockets found out about Tate...Tate worked out with Newlin that summer and made tremendous improvement. Armstrong was always in unbelievable shape always working out. One of the best at Duke during a down time. My wife named one of our sons Tate because he always thought he was "hot" her words not mind. Funny side bar is two of our friends named their sons Tate got the name from us and are UNC fans.
2- Edgar Burch was the guard that played more Tate's freshmen year...he transferred IIRC after Frosh season.
3- Moses was a juco Foster brought in I think Military vet.
4- Mark Crow like Armstrong played more later in career.
5- Watching Willie Hodge in the video IMO he would have been a better player if you could dunk back then he never had a great touch and would get called for a foul in a heart beat.
6- Yes if Armstrong stays healthy with the addition of Gminski his freshmen year they were a decent team until Tate got hurt.
7- Yes Armstrong on Olympic team but Dean did not play him very much and Tate was looking forward to playing UNC his SR but got hurt early in ACC season IIRC in first ACC game at UVA.

IIRC, Tate was recruited as a defensive player, but through his hard work, developed an excellent outside shot. A coach once said something along the lines of being able to wakeTate up at 2:00 AM, blindfold him, and he could still drain 10 outside shots in a row

In regards to the Olympic team, Tate lead the team in points per minute. This is also IIRC (which is getting less reliable as the years progress).

Devil549
08-07-2018, 11:15 AM
Yes Tate probably did average more points per minute than anybody on team because he was the "12th man on a 12 man team" as they say.

It was interesting to me that the TV announcers were not typical ACC guys....the ACC games were always a highlight of Saturdays for me and also Wednesday nights.

arnie
08-07-2018, 08:45 PM
This is great! But why is the game available as I’ve never found a replay of the 1978 Final Four?

A DBR “lurker” was kind to send me the YouTube link below. I’ve never watched a replay of the championship game and didn’t realize it was available. Hopefully the link works in this post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0zXXUvFIUQ&t=776s

Atldukie79
08-08-2018, 09:53 AM
I was one of the pep band trombone players at both of the games embedded in this thread. I always sat on the front row, near the basket in Cameron. Some random thoughts:
- Not only were the students right on the floor (instead of the press) but filled most of the bleachers on all four sides of the court.
- The end zone bleachers had recently been "down sized" to allow a fire lane ...not quite as many seats as before....I can't recall when that happened.
- Tate Armstrong was out of shape as a freshman. The summer workout mentioned in a previous thread was akin to the the Redick transformation.
- Tate was a really nice guy. Saw him quite often in the dorms, very humble. Talked about the wrist injury that finished his SR season too early. I recall him as a more athletic JJ.