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SoCalDukeFan
04-04-2017, 02:08 AM
I understand that with hundreds of games in a week you can not expect great refs at every game. But the NCAAT should have the best, especially the Final Four. It just seems to me that the officiating has gotten worse and worse and this year was really bad. (I do think the 2004 Duke-UConn game was an all time low) Should they simplify the rules and any contact is a foul? Or allow almost all contact? It would be nice to be consistent all game.

The one and done rule has reduced the talent level and the experience level of the players.

I used to love college basketball but games are becoming very hard to watch.


SoCal

UrinalCake
04-04-2017, 08:02 AM
Officiating is so inconsistent, not only from one game to the next but within a single game the rules seem to change. This final had no flow to it, there were constant stoppages of play and I think that had a lot to do with the players getting taken out of their rhythm. If I was not a college basketball fan and I happened to turn into this game to watch since it was the Championship, I don't think I would be very sold on the product.

I agree with your point that the overall level of officiating is poor. I understand that refs are human beings and no one is perfect, but there are basic things that shouldn't be missed, like Meeks' hand being out of bounds on that jump ball, or the Northwestern game where the guy reached up through the basket and blocked the ball.

dukefan I don't get why Jackson is so high on the draft boards either. Most of his made shots are wide open threes in transition or floaters in the lane when he's being guarded by someone four inches shorter than him. He's not going to get those at the next level. I don't have a problem with his dunk at the end though, any player would do that and it's not like he was showboating.

WillJ
04-04-2017, 08:31 AM
I do think the 2004 Duke-UConn game was an all time low.
SoCal

Most definitely.

jipops
04-04-2017, 08:41 AM
In my opinion, the college game has become increasingly unwatchable for several seasons now. Everything is a foul, unless it truly is... then it may or may not be called. I've felt my interest level waning in the process. If there is an NBA game and a college game on at the same time I'm easily choosing the NBA game, unless Duke is playing of course. Heck I even missed watching Duke games this year and didn't bother to go back watching all of it, and those were wins. As bad and ridiculous as NBA officiating can be, it doesn't compare to the mess of the college game these days. Plus the quality of play is 100x better. Granted poor officiating is not the only reason my interest in the college game continues to decrease, but it certainly contributes to it.

Saratoga2
04-04-2017, 08:50 AM
In my opinion, the college game has become increasingly unwatchable for several seasons now. Everything is a foul, unless it truly is... then it may or may not be called. I've felt my interest level waning in the process. If there is an NBA game and a college game on at the same time I'm easily choosing the NBA game, unless Duke is playing of course. Heck I even missed watching Duke games this year and didn't bother to go back watching all of it, and those were wins. As bad and ridiculous as NBA officiating can be, it doesn't compare to the mess of the college game these days. Plus the quality of play is 100x better. Granted poor officiating is not the only reason my interest in the college game continues to decrease, but it certainly contributes to it.

The NCAA may indeed gravitate towards professional refs and gain more consistency. My problem with watching the games is the avarice of the TV networks who throw in ads at every slight pause in the action and the type of ads are so distasteful in general. I mute them all these days but think the networks are killing the goose that laid the golden egg here. Also the quality and bias of the announcers is hurting the enjoyment by people who go off on tangents (Vitale) or are alumnae of schools that are playing and are obviously biased. Improving the reffing is only part of the problem, presentation of the game is the other.

Indoor66
04-04-2017, 09:29 AM
In my opinion, the college game has become increasingly unwatchable for several seasons now. Everything is a foul, unless it truly is... then it may or may not be called. I've felt my interest level waning in the process. If there is an NBA game and a college game on at the same time I'm easily choosing the NBA game, unless Duke is playing of course. Heck I even missed watching Duke games this year and didn't bother to go back watching all of it, and those were wins. As bad and ridiculous as NBA officiating can be, it doesn't compare to the mess of the college game these days. Plus the quality of play is 100x better. Granted poor officiating is not the only reason my interest in the college game continues to decrease, but it certainly contributes to it.

I agree with your post. Given the choice, I often select the NBA game over the college offering. And I, too, pass up watching Duke games that I always DVR. The pro game flows, generally the passing is better and the game keeps moving. The college game is so choppy that it is no fun to watch. 1st thing to do is ELIMINATE the video replay. Just because the technology exists does not make it a good idea to apply it to college basketball. Allow the refs to ref and the players play and the coaches coach and the timekeeper keep time. If the clock does not get started for 1/2 a second, so what. At the end of the game, maybe, check that but not taking three minutes to do so. Getting down to 0.2 or 0.3 seconds is absolutely ludicrous and ridiculous. The fact that it might influence the outcome of one game out of hundreds does not justify its rampant use. Life is not always perfect or fair.

SoCalDukeFan
04-05-2017, 05:30 PM
Link (http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/ncaa-tournament-2017-college-basketball-really-needs-to-do-something-about-officiating/arqyiv8pjn921049ktr0e1p21
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/ncaa-tournament-2017-college-basketball-really-needs-to-do-something-about-officiating/arqyiv8pjn921049ktr0e1p21
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/ncaa-tournament-2017-college-basketball-really-needs-to-do-something-about-officiating/arqyiv8pjn921049ktr0e1p21
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/ncaa-tournament-2017-college-basketball-really-needs-to-do-something-about-officiating/arqyiv8pjn921049ktr0e1p21
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/ncaa-tournament-2017-college-basketball-really-needs-to-do-something-about-officiating/arqyiv8pjn921049ktr0e1p21)

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Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
04-05-2017, 05:57 PM
Link (http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/ncaa-tournament-2017-college-basketball-really-needs-to-do-something-about-officiating/arqyiv8pjn921049ktr0e1p21
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/ncaa-tournament-2017-college-basketball-really-needs-to-do-something-about-officiating/arqyiv8pjn921049ktr0e1p21
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/ncaa-tournament-2017-college-basketball-really-needs-to-do-something-about-officiating/arqyiv8pjn921049ktr0e1p21
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/ncaa-tournament-2017-college-basketball-really-needs-to-do-something-about-officiating/arqyiv8pjn921049ktr0e1p21
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/ncaa-tournament-2017-college-basketball-really-needs-to-do-something-about-officiating/arqyiv8pjn921049ktr0e1p21)

SoCal

Link busted

mgtr
04-05-2017, 06:03 PM
Link busted

Gee, well that makes the link just like college basketball officiating.

Steven43
04-05-2017, 06:08 PM
I don't get why Jackson is so high on the draft boards either. Most of his made shots are wide open threes in transition or floaters in the lane when he's being guarded by someone four inches shorter than him. He's not going to get those at the next level.
Exactly. He is not going to get those dumb one-handed shots off in the NBA. They will laugh at that while throwing them back in his face. Beyond that he has poor shot selection, is quite streaky, and is consistently off balance on his shots. I swear, it almost seems that he prefers to be off-balance because a lot of the time he doesn't need to be, but he jumps awkwardly and shoots from weird angles and strange positions. He is an extremely unorthodox basketball player. Don't see him lasting long in the league.

smvalkyries
04-05-2017, 06:10 PM
You want free movement and then complain when any contact is a foul. Totally apart from quality I think many Duke games were severely influenced by the type of officiating- some officials let them play a little (much better for Duke) some call all contact a foul making defense impossible and game unwatchable. In medicine what the change in rules has done is called latrogenesis- physician caused illness or otherwise put breaking something working perfectly well by trying to unnecessarily improve it! Just as I don't think anyone can play no contact defense I don't think any official can consistently call freedom of movement basketball. Let them play I say- it doesn't get any worse then when a team like Duke is forced by officiating to play zone.

SoCalDukeFan
04-05-2017, 06:49 PM
Link (http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/ncaa-tournament-2017-college-basketball-really-needs-to-do-something-about-officiating/arqyiv8pjn921049ktr0e1p21)

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