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grad_devil
02-19-2017, 04:43 PM
Since we have a minimum of 6 (maximum of 13 - 14 if we don't finish top 4 in the ACC) games remaining, I thought it might be interesting to start keeping track of Amile, Luke, and Matt's quest for 1k points. If averages hold, we should see Luke and Amilie break the 1,000 pt barrier in the next couple of games, while Matt will need an epic scoring burst and/or a deep tourney run to break the threshold.

The column headers labeled 6-14 are the minimum/maximum games remaining, and the values in these columns is the points per game needed to break 1,000.


Name Total Pts 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14
----------------- ----------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------
Amile Jefferson 978 3.67 3.14 2.75 2.44 2.20 2.00 1.83 1.69 1.57
Luke Kennard 964 6.00 5.14 4.50 4.00 3.60 3.27 3.00 2.77 2.57
Matt Jones 869 21.83 18.71 16.38 14.56 13.10 11.91 10.92 10.08 9.36

MartyClark
02-19-2017, 04:54 PM
Thanks.

How many points does Grayson Allen have?

CDu
02-19-2017, 04:56 PM
Since we have a minimum of 6 (maximum of 13 - 14 if we don't finish top 4 in the ACC) games remaining, I thought it might be interesting to start keeping track of Amile, Luke, and Matt's quest for 1k points. If averages hold, we should see Luke and Amilie break the 1,000 pt barrier in the next couple of games, while Matt will need an epic scoring burst and/or a deep tourney run to break the threshold.

The column headers labeled 6-14 are the minimum/maximum games remaining, and the values in these columns is the points per game needed to break 1,000.


Name Total Pts 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14
----------------- ----------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------
Amile Jefferson 978 3.67 3.14 2.75 2.44 2.20 2.00 1.83 1.69 1.57
Luke Kennard 964 6.00 5.14 4.50 4.00 3.60 3.27 3.00 2.77 2.57
Matt Jones 869 21.83 18.71 16.38 14.56 13.10 11.91 10.92 10.08 9.36



Thanks.

How many points does Grayson Allen have?

1,313.

grad_devil
02-19-2017, 05:05 PM
Thanks.

How many points does Grayson Allen have?


1,313.

Yep, CDu's accurate as usual.

If he scores at his current pace, he'll finish the year somewhere in the neighborhood of 1,404 (6 games) and 1,526 (14 games) points.

Skitzle
02-19-2017, 05:10 PM
Wow Luke got there fast... How does he compare to the other Duke players to reach 1000 career points?

grad_devil
02-19-2017, 05:15 PM
Wow Luke got there fast... How does he compare to the other Duke players to reach 1000 career points?

I'm not entirely sure, but Shawn Krest has been documenting Kennard's sophomore season point total in comparison to JJ's.

7200

Link here: https://twitter.com/ShawnKrest/status/833070118339018752

Skitzle
02-19-2017, 06:07 PM
I'm not entirely sure, but Shawn Krest has been documenting Kennard's sophomore season point total in comparison to JJ's.

7200

Link here: https://twitter.com/ShawnKrest/status/833070118339018752

Dawkins at 54 games seems like the fastest.

Next Game will be Kennards 64th.

JJ got there on game 65
J Williams on game 59
Singler 67

Let me know who else you want me to check or go to http://goduke.statsgeek.com

Olympic Fan
02-19-2017, 08:29 PM
Dawkins at 54 games seems like the fastest.

Next Game will be Kennards 64th.

JJ got there on game 65
J Williams on game 59
Singler 67

Let me know who else you want me to check or go to http://goduke.statsgeek.com

Not even close ... Art Heyman scored 1,237 points in his first two years and that was just 49 games. Not sure when he got to 1,000 exactly, but it was close to 40 games (he averaged 25.3 ppg for those two years) -- much faster than Johnny Dawkins.

Best total after two years belongs to Jason Williams (1,333 points), ahead of Heyman (1,237), Dawkins (1,165), Mullins (1,134), Groat (1,106), Reddick (1,086), Singler (1,060), Gminski (1,054), Verga (1.053), Denton (1,046), Banks (1,010).

Kennard is poised to become the 12th Duke player to get to 1,000 points in his second season. If he stays four years, he could make a real run at Reddick's school scoring record.

As for Grayson Allen, he came into the season with 932 points and hit 1,000 in the Rhode Island game. With 1,313 after the Wake game, he just passed Tate Armstrong (1,304) for 40th place on the Duke scoring list. DeMarcus Nelson (1,336) is next up ... No. 30 Carlos Boozer is at 1,506 -- that seems a reasonable goal.

JasonEvans
02-19-2017, 09:14 PM
I'm not entirely sure, but Shawn Krest has been documenting Kennard's sophomore season point total in comparison to JJ's.

7200

Link here: https://twitter.com/ShawnKrest/status/833070118339018752

Midway through last season I said I expected Kennard to be the next 2000 point scorer in Duke history... little did I know his NBA prospects would rise as quickly as they did. I just hope he at least follows Grayson's lead and comes back for at least his junior campaign. I think he would have a legit shot at getting to 2000 in 3 years if he comes back.

-Jason "I believe Jason Williams is the only Duke player in modern times to get to 2000 points in their first 3 seasons" Evans

CDu
02-19-2017, 09:18 PM
Midway through last season I said I expected Kennard to be the next 2000 point scorer in Duke history... little did I know his NBA prospects would rise as quickly as they did. I just hope he at least follows Grayson's lead and comes back for at least his junior campaign. I think he would have a legit shot at getting to 2000 in 3 years if he comes back.

-Jason "I believe Jason Williams is the only Duke player in modern times to get to 2000 points in their first 3 seasons" Evans

Yeah, if Kennard stays four years, I think he would threaten Hansbrough's record. But I don't think he will stay that long. I would just be happy if he stays 3 years.

DU82
02-19-2017, 10:50 PM
Yeah, if Kennard stays four years, I think he would threaten Hansbrough's record. But I don't think he will stay that long. I would just be happy if he stays 3 years.

JJ's record. Cheaters shouldn't count.

Tom B.
02-20-2017, 02:31 PM
JJ's record. Cheaters shouldn't count.

Much as it pains me to say this, Hansbrough helped the league in one sense by "unifying" the ACC scoring record.

For a long time, Wake Forest's Dickie Hemric was recognized as the ACC's career scoring leader, with 2,587 points. But there was always an unofficial asterisk next to his name, because he only played two years in the ACC. Wake Forest was a member of the Southern Conference during Hemric's first two seasons (1951-52 and 1952-53), which pre-dated the formation of the ACC.

Still, for over 30 years, nobody got within a couple hundred points of Hemric's total. Then in 1986, Johnny Dawkins came close, finishing his career with 2,556 points. So suddenly there was a debate over who the true "career ACC scoring leader" was. Of course, Dawkins' total came with a small asterisk as well. In Dawkins' freshman season, the ACC experimented with a three-point line that was only 17' 9" from the basket, and Dawkins hit 19 three-pointers. The three-point shot obviously wasn't available in Hemric's day, so a true "apples to apples" comparison of Dawkins to Hemric would put Dawkins 50 points shy of Hemric, 2,537 to 2,587. In later years, N.C. State's Rodney Monroe and Virginia's Bryant Stith also would crack 2,500 career points, but they also benefited from the three-point line.

In 2006, J.J. Redick came along and surpassed both Hemric and Dawkins, finishing his career with 2,769 points. But Redick benefited greatly from the three-point shot during all four of his years, hitting 457 of them. Redick's "adjusted" scoring total (i.e., assuming no three-point line) would be 2,312 points, which would put him just ahead of David Thompson and just behind Jeff Lamp.

Tyler Hansbrough finally made those distinctions irrelevant when he finished his career with 2,872 points. He actually hit 12 three-pointers during his career, but adjusting his career scoring total to remove the effect of the three-point line still gives him the record at 2,860 points.

Yes, there are still differences in the game between Hansbrough's time vs. Dawkins' time vs. Hemric's time, most notably the shot clock. Hansbrough never had to play a game where there was even a possibility that his coach might, say, hold the ball for virtually an entire half and cause his team to score zero points. But Hansbrough's total may be as close to a "unified" record as we're ever going to get.

kmspeaks
02-20-2017, 04:11 PM
Much as it pains me to say this, Hansbrough helped the league in one sense by "unifying" the ACC scoring record.

For a long time, Wake Forest's Dickie Hemric was recognized as the ACC's career scoring leader, with 2,587 points. But there was always an unofficial asterisk next to his name, because he only played two years in the ACC. Wake Forest was a member of the Southern Conference during Hemric's first two seasons (1951-52 and 1952-53), which pre-dated the formation of the ACC.

Still, for over 30 years, nobody got within a couple hundred points of Hemric's total. Then in 1986, Johnny Dawkins came close, finishing his career with 2,556 points. So suddenly there was a debate over who the true "career ACC scoring leader" was. Of course, Dawkins' total came with a small asterisk as well. In Dawkins' freshman season, the ACC experimented with a three-point line that was only 17' 9" from the basket, and Dawkins hit 19 three-pointers. The three-point shot obviously wasn't available in Hemric's day, so a true "apples to apples" comparison of Dawkins to Hemric would put Dawkins 50 points shy of Hemric, 2,537 to 2,587. In later years, N.C. State's Rodney Monroe and Virginia's Bryant Stith also would crack 2,500 career points, but they also benefited from the three-point line.

In 2006, J.J. Redick came along and surpassed both Hemric and Dawkins, finishing his career with 2,769 points. But Redick benefited greatly from the three-point shot during all four of his years, hitting 457 of them. Redick's "adjusted" scoring total (i.e., assuming no three-point line) would be 2,312 points, which would put him just ahead of David Thompson and just behind Jeff Lamp.

Tyler Hansbrough finally made those distinctions irrelevant when he finished his career with 2,872 points. He actually hit 12 three-pointers during his career, but adjusting his career scoring total to remove the effect of the three-point line still gives him the record at 2,860 points.

Yes, there are still differences in the game between Hansbrough's time vs. Dawkins' time vs. Hemric's time, most notably the shot clock. Hansbrough never had to play a game where there was even a possibility that his coach might, say, hold the ball for virtually an entire half and cause his team to score zero points. But Hansbrough's total may be as close to a "unified" record as we're ever going to get.

But Hansbrough got to play with the special 5 steps before it's a travel rule.

rasputin
02-20-2017, 04:15 PM
But Hansbrough got to play with the special 5 steps before it's a travel rule.

Not to mention the rule that if he had the ball, and you were within 5 feet of him and you breathed, it was a foul.

jv001
02-20-2017, 04:27 PM
Not to mention the rule that if he had the ball, and you were within 5 feet of him and you breathed, it was a foul.

Do we know if Hanstravel was really eligible to play? Has his grade transcripts been verified by PackPride? We're pretty sure any points scored in NCAAT should not count. GoDuke!

grad_devil
02-23-2017, 07:46 AM
After last night's game, we have 5 guaranteed games remaining, with a max of 12 (13, if we don't finish in the top 4 of the ACC).

It's looking like the race to 1K isn't very interesting for Luke and Amile. Assuming they play, they should both easily top the milestone in the next two games.

After Matt's three points last night (and truthfully, even before), he's on the outside looking in.

Contrary to the thread title, I've added Amile's rebound totals to the chart. While he's unlikely to get 1K rebounds, it's somewhat more likely that he breaks into Duke's top 10, for which he only needs to get more than 954. His current rebounding average is 8.7, so at that rate we'd need to play 10 more games, which I believe would be the Elite 8.



Name Total Pts 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 [13]
----------------- ---------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------
Amile Jefferson 992 1.60 1.33 1.14 1.00 0.89 0.80 0.73 0.67 0.62
Luke Kennard 987 2.60 2.17 1.86 1.63 1.44 1.30 1.18 1.08 1.00
Matt Jones 872 25.60 21.33 18.29 16.00 14.22 12.80 11.64 10.67 9.85

Amile to Total Rebounds
1,000 876 25.60 21.33 18.29 16.00 14.22 12.80 11.64 10.67 9.85
955 (top 10) 876 16.60 13.83 11.86 10.38 9.22 8.30 7.55 6.92 6.38

CrazyNotCrazie
02-23-2017, 09:26 AM
After last night's game, we have 5 guaranteed games remaining, with a max of 12 (13, if we don't finish in the top 4 of the ACC).

It's looking like the race to 1K isn't very interesting for Luke and Amile. Assuming they play, they should both easily top the milestone in the next two games.

After Matt's three points last night (and truthfully, even before), he's on the outside looking in.

Contrary to the thread title, I've added Amile's rebound totals to the chart. While he's unlikely to get 1K rebounds, it's somewhat more likely that he breaks into Duke's top 10, for which he only needs to get more than 954. His current rebounding average is 8.7, so at that rate we'd need to play 10 more games, which I believe would be the Elite 8.



Name Total Pts 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 [13]
----------------- ---------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------
Amile Jefferson 992 1.60 1.33 1.14 1.00 0.89 0.80 0.73 0.67 0.62
Luke Kennard 987 2.60 2.17 1.86 1.63 1.44 1.30 1.18 1.08 1.00
Matt Jones 872 25.60 21.33 18.29 16.00 14.22 12.80 11.64 10.67 9.85

Amile to Total Rebounds
1,000 876 25.60 21.33 18.29 16.00 14.22 12.80 11.64 10.67 9.85
955 (top 10) 876 16.60 13.83 11.86 10.38 9.22 8.30 7.55 6.92 6.38


Thanks! I really enjoy these lists. Who is ahead of Amile on the rebounds list? Does anyone keep track of steals? One would think that Matt would be moving up the charts there.

grad_devil
02-23-2017, 09:38 AM
Thanks! I really enjoy these lists. Who is ahead of Amile on the rebounds list? Does anyone keep track of steals? One would think that Matt would be moving up the charts there.

I actually checked steals, and Matt isn't really that close. He currently has 128, and there's a 2-way tie between Thomas Hill and Sean Dockery for 10th all-time at 194. He would need to average 13.2 steals over the guaranteed 5 games (or 5.5 over max 12) to break into the top 10. He currently averages 1.6/game, so that would be quite the feat.

I used DukeReport as the source for these lists, link here (http://dukereport.com/duke-basketball-records-and-history/duke-basketball-career-leaders/).

grad_devil
02-28-2017, 09:31 AM
Well, this thread got a lot less interesting, but it seems I'm in it for the long haul, now.

There are a minimum of 4 games left (2 regular season, 1 ACCT, 1 NCAAT) with a maximum of 12, assuming we do not get into the top 4 of the ACC and get the double bye.

With Luke's 16 points against Miami, he passes Amile Jefferson and breaks the 1K point barrier (1,003). I've removed him from the "watch".

Amilie needs only 4 points to do the same, while Matt is on the outside looking in. Still.

Name Total Pts 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
----------------- ----------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- -------
Amile Jefferson 996 1.00 0.80 0.67 0.57 0.50 0.44 0.40 0.36 0.33
Matt Jones 876 31.00 24.80 20.67 17.71 15.50 13.78 12.40 11.27 10.33


Amile still has a small chance to break the top 10 rebounders at Duke, needing 955 to achieve that milestone. He currently stands at 881, so he needs to be aggressive on the boards and hope for long tourney runs.

Amile to Total Rebounds 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
---------------------- ---------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- -------
955 (top 10 at Duke) 881 19.75 15.80 13.17 11.29 9.88 8.78 7.90 7.18 6.58
1,000 881 31.00 24.80 20.67 17.71 15.50 13.78 12.40 11.27 10.33


Since Kennard is having such a great year offensively, I thought I'd track how he compares to other great seasons. He has currently scored 578 points, and to break into the top 20, he needs to pass Mike Gminski's (1980) 704. For reference, I've also included Grayson's season total from last year (#7 all-time), and JJ's from 2006 (#1 all-time).


Kennard To Pass Needs (Total) 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
--------- --------------------- --------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- -------
578 Mike Gminski (1980) 704 31.50 25.20 21.00 18.00 15.75 14.00 12.60 11.45 10.50
578 Grayson (2016) 779 50.25 40.20 33.50 28.71 25.13 22.33 20.10 18.27 16.75
578 JJ (2006) 964 96.50 77.20 64.33 55.14 48.25 42.89 38.60 35.09 32.17


Looking at those numbers, there's a reasonable chance he gets into the top 20, but the bigger thing that jumps out at me is how historic both JJ and Grayson's years were. Well, particularly JJ's.

Tom B.
02-28-2017, 12:27 PM
Kennard To Pass Needs (Total) 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
--------- --------------------- --------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- -------
578 Mike Gminski (1980) 704 31.50 25.20 21.00 18.00 15.75 14.00 12.60 11.45 10.50
578 Grayson (2016) 779 50.25 40.20 33.50 28.71 25.13 22.33 20.10 18.27 16.75
578 JJ (2006) 964 96.50 77.20 64.33 55.14 48.25 42.89 38.60 35.09 32.17


Looking at those numbers, there's a reasonable chance he gets into the top 20, but the bigger thing that jumps out at me is how historic both JJ and Grayson's years were. Well, particularly JJ's.

J.J. came within a hair's breadth of breaking one of the "unbreakable" ACC records -- Dennis Scott's single-season scoring record of 970 points, which he set in the 1989-90 season. If J.J. has merely a below-average performance in that last game against LSU, instead of going 3-for-18, he breaks it.

cato
02-28-2017, 12:38 PM
J.J. came within a hair's breadth of breaking one of the "unbreakable" ACC records -- Dennis Scott's single-season scoring record of 970 points, which he set in the 1989-90 season. If J.J. has merely a below-average performance in that last game against LSU, instead of going 3-for-18, he breaks it.

Argh. Reliving bad memories now. If J.J. had just had a serviceable game, maybe Duke wins and he leaves a truly unbreakable record in his wake.

Silver lining: I wonder if the end of his Senior year help J.J. keep the motivation he needed to do what he has done in the NBA. I am amazed at his accomplishments.

Tom B.
02-28-2017, 12:54 PM
Argh. Reliving bad memories now. If J.J. had just had a serviceable game, maybe Duke wins and he leaves a truly unbreakable record in his wake.

True. If J.J. had just a fair-to-middling shooting game against LSU, Duke probably wins -- then the fun "what if" speculation really begins.

Duke's opponent in the regional final would've been Texas, whom Duke had annihilated by 31 (97-66) on a neutral floor earlier in the season, with J.J. scoring 41 points.

Get past Texas, then it's UCLA, followed by Florida. That was the first of Billy Donovan's back-to-back title teams, and they had kind of a "team of destiny" thing going in that tournament. Still, those would've been winnable games for Duke.

If Duke had made it to the finals, J.J. almost certainly would've posted a single-season scoring total of over 1,000 points.



Silver lining: I wonder if the end of his Senior year help J.J. keep the motivation he needed to do what he has done in the NBA. I am amazed at his accomplishments.

Agreed on both counts.

jv001
02-28-2017, 01:54 PM
J.J. came within a hair's breadth of breaking one of the "unbreakable" ACC records -- Dennis Scott's single-season scoring record of 970 points, which he set in the 1989-90 season. If J.J. has merely a below-average performance in that last game against LSU, instead of going 3-for-18, he breaks it.

If I remember correctly, JJ was having a lot of trouble getting his jersey out of the LSU player's hands that night. GoDuke!

construe
02-28-2017, 03:03 PM
Since Kennard is having such a great year offensively, I thought I'd track how he compares to other great seasons. He has currently scored 578 points, and to break into the top 20, he needs to pass Mike Gminski's (1980) 704. For reference, I've also included Grayson's season total from last year (#7 all-time), and JJ's from 2006 (#1 all-time).


Kennard To Pass Needs (Total) 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
--------- --------------------- --------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- -------
578 Mike Gminski (1980) 704 31.50 25.20 21.00 18.00 15.75 14.00 12.60 11.45 10.50
578 Grayson (2016) 779 50.25 40.20 33.50 28.71 25.13 22.33 20.10 18.27 16.75
578 JJ (2006) 964 96.50 77.20 64.33 55.14 48.25 42.89 38.60 35.09 32.17




I'm definitely rooting for Luke to avg 96.5 pts going forward! (But I suspect we'd win more than 4 games if he did so...)

duke4ever19
02-28-2017, 04:38 PM
If I remember correctly, JJ was having a lot of trouble getting his jersey out of the LSU player's hands that night. GoDuke!

Yes. There's a short documentary I found on YouTube about JJ's career thus far and in it, Coach K says that he felt horrible for Redick having to end his career that way. K said (I'm summarizing) that LSU was obviously not going to let JJ beat them, so they played him rough (lots of grabbing and pushing) and unfortunately, the refs were allowing rough play that game, so JJ didn't get open very easily, plus, He wasn't getting to the line to score on free throws. Just a perfect storm for a loss.

That game is up there with the Indiana "Boozer game" and 2004 UConn "foul-out" game in my book as one I'll never quite get over, due to the way the game was called.

grad_devil
03-10-2017, 10:57 AM
Olympic Fan brought this up in another thread, (http://forums.dukebasketballreport.com/forums/showthread.php?39651-MBB-Duke-vs-Carolina-(ACCT)-3-10-7-pm-ESPN-Pre-Game-amp-In-Game-Thread&p=959297#post959297) but since I've been tracking the numbers here (albeit the name of the thread needs changing), I thought I would post the most recent updates.

Kennard has already passed Sophomore JJ, and Junior JJ is definitely within reach, as is G-Man (1980) to make the top 10 list. Of course, I'd like to see him pass Senior JJ, because, well, that would be fun to watch.

Kennard (2016-17) To Pass Needs (Total) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
------------------- --------------------- --------------- -------- -------- -------- -------- -------- -------- --------
667 JJ (2006) 964 148.50 99.00 74.25 59.40 49.50 42.43 37.13
667 Grayson (2016) 779 56.00 37.33 28.00 22.40 18.67 16.00 14.00
667 JJ (2005) 721 27.00 18.00 13.50 10.80 9.00 7.71 6.75
667 Mike Gminski (1980) 704 18.50 12.33 9.25 7.40 6.17 5.29 4.63
667 JJ (2004) 589 Passed Passed Passed Passed Passed Passed Passed


With enough of a tournament run, Amile still has a shot to make the top 10 in rebounds (955) for his career, but we'd need to play at least 5 more games, given his current average of ~8.5/game.

Amile to Total Rebounds 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
---------------------- ---------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- -------
955 (top 10 at Duke) 914 20.50 13.67 10.25 8.20 6.83 5.86 5.13
1,000 914 43.00 28.67 21.50 17.20 14.33 12.29 10.75


Amile is already 8th all-time in blocks (121), and could take sole possession of 7th (tie between Grant Hill and Ryan Kelly) with a few extra games. Shelden (1st, 423) appears to be out of reach.

Amile to Total Blocks (8th all-time) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
-------------------- ----------------------------- -------- -------- ------- ------- ------- ------- -------
134 (7th all-time) 121 6.50 4.33 3.25 2.60 2.17 1.86 1.63
149 (6th all-time) 121 14.00 9.33 7.00 5.60 4.67 4.00 3.50
423 (1st all-time) 121 151.00 100.67 75.50 60.40 50.33 43.14 37.75



Matt getting to 1,000 was a long shot, but after his shooting slump of the past several games, it's now a longer long shot. I'd be ok if he went on a wild scoring spree, though.

Name Total Pts 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
------------ ----------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- -------
Matt Jones 887 56.50 37.67 28.25 22.60 18.83 16.14 14.13

CrazyNotCrazie
03-20-2017, 09:38 AM
Olympic Fan brought this up in another thread, (http://forums.dukebasketballreport.com/forums/showthread.php?39651-MBB-Duke-vs-Carolina-(ACCT)-3-10-7-pm-ESPN-Pre-Game-amp-In-Game-Thread&p=959297#post959297) but since I've been tracking the numbers here (albeit the name of the thread needs changing), I thought I would post the most recent updates.

Kennard has already passed Sophomore JJ, and Junior JJ is definitely within reach, as is G-Man (1980) to make the top 10 list. Of course, I'd like to see him pass Senior JJ, because, well, that would be fun to watch.

Kennard (2016-17) To Pass Needs (Total) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
------------------- --------------------- --------------- -------- -------- -------- -------- -------- -------- --------
667 JJ (2006) 964 148.50 99.00 74.25 59.40 49.50 42.43 37.13
667 Grayson (2016) 779 56.00 37.33 28.00 22.40 18.67 16.00 14.00
667 JJ (2005) 721 27.00 18.00 13.50 10.80 9.00 7.71 6.75
667 Mike Gminski (1980) 704 18.50 12.33 9.25 7.40 6.17 5.29 4.63
667 JJ (2004) 589 Passed Passed Passed Passed Passed Passed Passed


With enough of a tournament run, Amile still has a shot to make the top 10 in rebounds (955) for his career, but we'd need to play at least 5 more games, given his current average of ~8.5/game.

Amile to Total Rebounds 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
---------------------- ---------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- -------
955 (top 10 at Duke) 914 20.50 13.67 10.25 8.20 6.83 5.86 5.13
1,000 914 43.00 28.67 21.50 17.20 14.33 12.29 10.75


Amile is already 8th all-time in blocks (121), and could take sole possession of 7th (tie between Grant Hill and Ryan Kelly) with a few extra games. Shelden (1st, 423) appears to be out of reach.

Amile to Total Blocks (8th all-time) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
-------------------- ----------------------------- -------- -------- ------- ------- ------- ------- -------
134 (7th all-time) 121 6.50 4.33 3.25 2.60 2.17 1.86 1.63
149 (6th all-time) 121 14.00 9.33 7.00 5.60 4.67 4.00 3.50
423 (1st all-time) 121 151.00 100.67 75.50 60.40 50.33 43.14 37.75



Matt getting to 1,000 was a long shot, but after his shooting slump of the past several games, it's now a longer long shot. I'd be ok if he went on a wild scoring spree, though.

Name Total Pts 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
------------ ----------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- -------
Matt Jones 887 56.50 37.67 28.25 22.60 18.83 16.14 14.13

Where did we end up with all of these? I know Luke's average dropped well below 20 ppg with the two quiet NCAA games. But Amile really moved up the blocks chart with the big game last night. Need to take something positive out of the situation...

SCMatt33
03-20-2017, 10:57 AM
Where did we end up with all of these? I know Luke's average dropped well below 20 ppg with the two quiet NCAA games. But Amile really moved up the blocks chart with the big game last night. Need to take something positive out of the situation...

Amile was indeed able to move up to 7th on the block list last night, bringing his career total to 138. He also finished his career first in games played with 150, 11th in rebounds with 944, and 59th in points with 1079 (one spot ahead of Jay Bilas on the all time list FWIW)

Luke finished the season with 722 points, exactly one point ahead of JJ's junior year and 16th on the all time list. He currently stands at 1147 career points, 50th all time.

Grayson finished the season with 1424 career points and currently stands at 33rd on the all time list.

Matt Jones finished his career with 912 points, 78th on the all time list (Duke currently has 67 1000 point scorers)

uh_no
03-20-2017, 12:15 PM
Amile was indeed able to move up to 7th on the block list last night, bringing his career total to 138. He also finished his career first in games played with 150, 11th in rebounds with 944, and 59th in points with 1079 (one spot ahead of Jay Bilas on the all time list FWIW)


hell of a career. Wonder how long before he's back on the sidelines in cameron.

flyingdutchdevil
03-20-2017, 01:17 PM
hell of a career. Wonder how long before he's back on the sidelines in cameron.

I hope in 10 years time. I think Amile can have a nice career in the NBA (if he develops a jumper. Worked for LT). If not, I hope he makes a few hundred thousand a year playing in Europe.