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wilson
04-04-2016, 10:30 PM
We can do this, right?
We should do this, right?

MCFinARL
04-04-2016, 10:35 PM
We can do this, right?
We should do this, right?

Schadenfreude--it's only human. And we know what it means, which is an added pleasure. bwahahahaha

Merlindevildog91
04-04-2016, 10:45 PM
At unc, schadenfreude is a model of Porsche that Fats Thomas lets certain people drive.

Here, it is a beautiful thing.

JBDuke
04-04-2016, 10:45 PM
Here's the @ICMeltdown Twitter feed, if you want more...

https://twitter.com/ICMeltdown

OldPhiKap
04-04-2016, 10:48 PM
Does "schadenfreude" have something to do with a live cat and a dead sheep? Because I just saw that.

Bostondevil
04-04-2016, 10:49 PM
We can do this, right?
We should do this, right?

We can.
We should.
We will.

OldPhiKap
04-04-2016, 10:50 PM
We can.
We should.
We will.

We did.

wilson
04-04-2016, 10:52 PM
Ol' Roy is blubbering through his presser on ESPN right now.

jacone21
04-04-2016, 10:53 PM
I'm not going to attend this thread, but I will turn in a short paper to my secretary in the morning.

Merlindevildog91
04-04-2016, 10:55 PM
I'm not going to attend this thread, but I will turn in a short paper to my secretary in the morning.

And you get a semester's worth of credit.

throatybeard
04-04-2016, 11:12 PM
I hereby deem this year's Hunger Games a success.

FerryFor50
04-04-2016, 11:22 PM
I win this thread


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weezie
04-04-2016, 11:32 PM
Here's the @ICMeltdown Twitter feed, if you want more...

https://twitter.com/ICMeltdown

Such idiots. Such teeny little lobes. Report was the refs were actually, for a change, not hampering the game.

This is yummy delicious!

weezie
04-04-2016, 11:33 PM
I win this thread


6223


Hahahahaha. You do. Gold medal post.

killerleft
04-05-2016, 12:07 AM
Blame it all on Villanova,
La-la-la-la-la--la.

Now that the Cheater Dream is ovah,
Let several banners fall!!!!


The livin' is easy. Sleep tight, all.:)

throatybeard
04-05-2016, 12:58 AM
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https://www1.villanova.edu/content/villanova/unicommunication/brandguidelines/universitywide/logos/_jcr_content/pagecontent/image_d012.img.jpg/1444745612860.jpg

Coballs
04-05-2016, 01:09 AM
I believe this belongs here.....

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/unc-now/article69975172.html

BigWayne
04-05-2016, 01:41 AM
I believe this belongs here....

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/unc-now/article69975172.html

Very nice. Just as good if not better than a similar video posted for the Austin Rivers shot.

proelitedota
04-05-2016, 02:11 AM
Mia Khalifa is drinking some Tar Heel tears tonight.

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DUKIE V(A)
04-05-2016, 04:37 AM
I believe this belongs here....

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/unc-now/article69975172.html

Sup Dogs?

slower
04-05-2016, 04:54 AM
I'm sorry, but this deserves its own thread. It just does. :)

TKG
04-05-2016, 05:12 AM
I win this thread


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Is that Jay Bilas?

dukebluesincebirth
04-05-2016, 05:19 AM
For the 2nd year in a row, Justise is served. Cheaters never win, and karma lives. Life is beautiful.

wilson
04-05-2016, 06:18 AM
Fun fact: unc has not defeated a team seeded better than 5 in the NCAA Tournament since 2009. During that time, Duke is 6-2 against teams seeded 4 or better, with 2 championships.

The list of teams who have won at least 1 game over a team seeded 4 or better since 2009 is as follows:

Arizona
Baylor
Butler
Cincinnati
Cornell
Dayton
Duke
Florida
Florida State
Florida-Gulf Coast
Georgia State
Gonzaga
Harvard
Hawaii
Indiana
Kansas
Kentucky
LaSalle
Lehigh
Louisville
Marquette
Mercer
Michigan
Michigan State
Middle Tennessee State
Murray State
NC State
Norfolk State
Ohio
Ohio State
Oklahoma
Oregon
Saint Mary’s
Stanford
Stephen F. Austin
Syracuse
UAB
UConn
Utah
VCU
Villanova
Virginia
Washington
West Virginia
Wisconsin
Xavier


That's 46 teams, in case you're keeping score at home.

cspan37421
04-05-2016, 06:47 AM
Mia Khalifa is drinking some Tar Heel tears tonight.



I swear, honey, I didn't know who she was! Someone posted something about her on DBR, and so I googled her to find out.

What? What's that look for?

BeachBlueDevil
04-05-2016, 06:54 AM
I believe this belongs here...

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/unc-now/article69975172.html

When I'm at work today and starting to get annoyed with someone or something, I will cue up this video and watch it. I know whatever annoyance Im having will be overcome by happiness of seeing these Carolina fans cry.

devildeac
04-05-2016, 06:54 AM
Our younger son-in-law texted this about 30 minutes ago:


How sweet it is!


Our younger daughter has a fine, young man for a spouse.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsOBSo_jKnM

Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
04-05-2016, 06:56 AM
If Jenkins comes to Asheville, he won't have to pay for beers if I'm around.

BD80
04-05-2016, 07:00 AM
If Jenkins comes to Asheville, he won't have to pay for beers if I'm around.

Is he a player who can ride a strong post season into the first round of the draft?

Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
04-05-2016, 07:05 AM
Is he a player who can ride a strong post season into the first round of the draft?

Drafts or bottles - he can pick.

Duke76
04-05-2016, 07:06 AM
For the 2nd year in a row, Justise is served. Cheaters never win, and karma lives. Life is beautiful.

I am sure this has been mentioned but when the day settles down, not guarding the inbound guy was the fatal mistake on Roy....in hindsight.

devildeac
04-05-2016, 07:12 AM
From the Rodgers and Hammerstein musical, Villanova:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LdIL5WCso8

"We know we belong to the land
And the land we belong to is grand!
And when we say
Yeeow! Aye-yip-aye-yo-ee-ay!
We're only sayin'
You're doin' fine, Villanova!
Villanova!
V-I-double L-A-N-O-V-A!
VILLANOVA!

Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
04-05-2016, 07:12 AM
I am sure this has been mentioned but when the day settles down, not guarding the inbound guy was the fatal mistake on Roy...in hindsight.

Yup. The inbounding player is frequently the most dangerous player on the floor.

If only there were some play Roy could have watched over and over and over for 24 years that would have reminded him kf this.

Tjenkins
04-05-2016, 07:14 AM
I didn't watch it, I don't sleep well under optimal circumstances. If I'd stayed up to watch that, I'd still be awake and in no condition for work. I don't regret not staying up. But when my clock radio went off at 6:00 this morning, the first thing I heard was some announcer scream "first time since 1985" and I new UNC lost. I was wide awake and in a good mood, I'll feel that way all day.

Not because I hate Roy Williams, not even because they've committed academic fraud. But because they have the worst fans who have ever lived and will ever live.

I felt this way for a long time, my feelings were confirmed when UNC won the 2005 title. I worked with a bunch of UNC grads, we got along fine if we didn't talk basketball (they knew I rooted for Duke, I told them early on because I prefer honesty). The day after the '05 title game, they celebrated for 2 minutes, then one said "we're gonna suck next year." When Duke has won titles, I have celebrated for days if not months, putting up "2010 national champions" posters in my cubicle, buying commemorative magazines, championship hats, t-shirts, etc.

Heels fans win and they whine less than 24 hours after the fact. They whine when they lose, they whine when they win.

I'm going to watch video of their fans sobbing all day and I'll never tire watching it.

Dr. Rosenrosen
04-05-2016, 07:17 AM
Is that Jay Bilas?
Did I miss the answer to this? Was that in fact Jay Bilas fretting after the game?

moonpie23
04-05-2016, 07:21 AM
for your Breakfast pleasure! (http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/article69973127.html)

gurufrisbee
04-05-2016, 07:21 AM
Yup. The inbounding player is frequently the most dangerous player on the floor.
.

In Roy's defense, the inbounding player was Villanova's most prolific 3 point shooter with a history of making some very deep three's as well, so there is really no reason to believe he might be a legitimate option to shoot with the clock running out.

Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
04-05-2016, 07:24 AM
In Roy's defense, the inbounding player was Villanova's most prolific 3 point shooter with a history of making some very deep three's as well, so there is really no reason to believe he might be a legitimate option to shoot with the clock running out.

Also in Roy's defense, shooting from all the way out there is just silly. Why on earth would you do something like that, gad gummit?

jjasper0729
04-05-2016, 07:27 AM
Did I miss the answer to this? Was that in fact Jay Bilas fretting after the game?

Looks like Hubert to me

jv001
04-05-2016, 07:28 AM
Yup. The inbounding player is frequently the most dangerous player on the floor.

If only there were some play Roy could have watched over and over and over for 24 years that would have reminded him kf this.

I can remember Christian being the trail guy coming down court and he would get the pass at the three point line and then "nothing but net". Very good memories of Duke's best. GoDuke!

whereinthehellami
04-05-2016, 08:08 AM
Love it. Thanks Nova. Gonna be a great off-season for Duke and UnCheat...hahaha!

Lunchab1es
04-05-2016, 08:18 AM
Well certainly we can all feel bad for this guy:

http://www.theonion.com/article/frustrated-unc-student-too-busy-studying-players-t-52684


:rolleyes:

JasonEvans
04-05-2016, 08:35 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbIR51_J_qY

nocilla
04-05-2016, 08:38 AM
Saw these on facebook;

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SupaDave
04-05-2016, 09:17 AM
It's manna from heaven...

wilson
04-05-2016, 09:27 AM
For best results, scroll down to numbers 6 and 7:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/04/see-the-6-best-reaction-videos-of-villanovas-buzzer-beater-over-unc

elvis14
04-05-2016, 09:29 AM
Facebook is just a beautiful place to be today. So many crying Jordan/Davis/Johnson pictures, so little time.

duke74
04-05-2016, 09:35 AM
Enjoy!

https://youtu.be/4XmZIcmRKkc

superdave
04-05-2016, 09:40 AM
I love this thread. That loss couldnt have happened to a more deserving fan base.

bedeviled
04-05-2016, 09:44 AM
I've always cheered for all of ACC above others. In the midst of the cheating scandal, I begrudgingly became an ABCer. But, I think you guys may be on to something - it does feel right. And pretty darn good right now!

andyw715
04-05-2016, 09:53 AM
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/04/someone-sucker-punched-the-unc-mascot-moments-after-the-tar-heels-lost

FerryFor50
04-05-2016, 09:58 AM
Crying Jordan Inception

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El_Diablo
04-05-2016, 10:03 AM
Threads on the front page of the Inside Carolina forum this morning:

-Foul descrepancy [sic] and refs?
-I don't see how anyone can watch tonight and not be infuritated. [sic]
-End of 1st half non-call made BusinessInsider.com
-The better team lost tonight
-The Refs Absolutely Decided the Game

Yes, those are all separate threads about the officiating.

ricks68
04-05-2016, 10:05 AM
From the video posted, it looks to me that the Ram mascot got punched right in the kisser by a UNCheat cheerleader. I love it!😂

ricks

El_Diablo
04-05-2016, 10:05 AM
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/04/someone-sucker-punched-the-unc-mascot-moments-after-the-tar-heels-lost

Looks like it was one of the male cheerleaders who clocked Rameses.

gus
04-05-2016, 10:09 AM
For best results, scroll down to numbers 6 and 7:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/04/see-the-6-best-reaction-videos-of-villanovas-buzzer-beater-over-unc

So am I interpreting #6 correctly: a bunch of students are watching the game on the floor of the dean dome, and they're more interested in video taping themselves reacting than experiencing the moment with the hundreds of fellow students surrounding them?

Dukehky
04-05-2016, 10:19 AM
So am I interpreting #6 correctly: a bunch of students are watching the game on the floor of the dean dome, and they're more interested in video taping themselves reacting than experiencing the moment with the hundreds of fellow students surrounding them?

To be fair, this is not isolated to UNC fans... Kids everywhere do this stuff. I was at the Final Four last year and I noticed that half the student's section had their phones out during the last five minutes.

hurleyfor3
04-05-2016, 10:22 AM
To be fair, this is not isolated to UNC fans... Kids everywhere do this stuff.

It's not isolated to sporting events, either. Off to the gym!

PackMan97
04-05-2016, 10:27 AM
This is perhaps my favorite of the night....from the Dean Dome! Watch the fans STORM THE COURT after their GAME TYING shot leaving 4.3s on the game clock! That's some serious basketball IQ right there....LOLZ

https://www.facebook.com/WRALTV/videos/10154823917287178/?fref=nf

-----------------------------------

And here is one of my own creation :)

https://i.imgflip.com/11zpuc.jpg

Tom B.
04-05-2016, 10:29 AM
If only there were some play Roy could have watched over and over and over for 24 years that would have reminded him of this.


26 years, not 24. That play last night was more closely related to "Special" than The Shot. Last night was just the full court version.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DD2fEEVVMk

wilson
04-05-2016, 10:35 AM
...a bunch of students are watching the game on the floor of the dean dome, and they're more interested in video taping themselves reacting than experiencing the moment with the hundreds of fellow students surrounding them?


To be fair, this is not isolated to UNC fans... Kids everywhere do this stuff. I was at the Final Four last year and I noticed that half the student's section had their phones out during the last five minutes.
https://youtu.be/7oC45CC1s-0?t=7s

Tom B.
04-05-2016, 10:38 AM
This is perhaps my favorite of the night...from the Dean Dome! Watch the fans STORM THE COURT after their GAME TYING shot leaving 4.3s on the game clock! That's some serious basketball IQ right there...LOLZ

https://www.facebook.com/WRALTV/videos/10154823917287178/?fref=nf

I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.

devildeac
04-05-2016, 10:45 AM
It's not isolated to sporting events, either. Off to the gym!

Videos/stills/selfies of your workout later today?

:rolleyes:

El_Diablo
04-05-2016, 10:48 AM
I have basically been playing this on repeat all morning:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJqjlFGZxtE

throatybeard
04-05-2016, 11:05 AM
Help me out here y'all. I'm having real trouble deciding. Should I wear my 2010 national champions polo, or the one from last year?

devildeac
04-05-2016, 11:07 AM
Help me out here y'all. I'm having real trouble deciding. Should I wear my 2010 national champions polo, or the one from last year?

Any way for a layered look/effect?

wilson
04-05-2016, 11:11 AM
Help me out here y'all. I'm having real trouble deciding. Should I wear my 2010 national champions polo, or the one from last year?


Any way for a layered look/effect?May as well just keep feeding the stereotype.
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devildeac
04-05-2016, 11:12 AM
May as well just keep feeding the stereotype.
6237

WTH? No yacht photos? :rolleyes:

OldPhiKap
04-05-2016, 11:16 AM
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.

It's a trap!!!!!

Tom B.
04-05-2016, 11:20 AM
It's a trap!!!!!

On a related note: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/erik-bauersfeld-dead-admiral-ackbar-880618

killerleft
04-05-2016, 11:22 AM
Help me out here y'all. I'm having real trouble deciding. Should I wear my 2010 national champions polo, or the one from last year?

LOL, no wonder you have bad experiences with Tar Heel fans! :)

devildeac
04-05-2016, 11:33 AM
I'm having too much fun today. Last time I think I had this much fun was probably April 7, 2015...

jacone21
04-05-2016, 11:39 AM
Don't y'all think it's time we gave this schadenfreude thing a rest?













Me neither! Carry on!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-t5bztYW1Riw/Ub4JOg0pCxI/AAAAAAAAAhQ/jrUsbCFMDHc/s1600/star-trek-dance_1300250_GIFSoup.com.gif

gus
04-05-2016, 12:19 PM
This is perhaps my favorite of the night...from the Dean Dome! Watch the fans STORM THE COURT after their GAME TYING shot leaving 4.3s on the game clock! That's some serious basketball IQ right there...LOLZ

https://www.facebook.com/WRALTV/videos/10154823917287178/?fref=nf

I don't get it - they stormed the court when the best outcome for them was going to be overtime? I could understand wanting to be on the floor if UNC had been up and they could end the game with a stop. But they were hoping to stand around for another 5 minutes of game time?


And here is one of my own creation :)

https://i.imgflip.com/11zpuc.jpg

Awesome

Tjenkins
04-05-2016, 12:41 PM
I guess 20 years from now, ESPN (if they still exist) will produce a documentary about UNC and their fanbase called I Still Hate Kris Jenkins!

SCMatt33
04-05-2016, 12:45 PM
I wonder if it's too late to divert the "UNC national champs" t-shirts from going to a developing country and hide them around chapel hill.

throatybeard
04-05-2016, 12:45 PM
LOL, no wonder you have bad experiences with Tar Heel fans! :)

I live in the old southwest. I'd never do that in the barbecue state.

devildeac
04-05-2016, 12:50 PM
I wonder if it's too late to divert the "UNC national champs" t-shirts from going to a developing country and hide them around chapel hill.

For next year's tournament (:rolleyes:) or Easter egg hunt?

nmduke2001
04-05-2016, 12:56 PM
I think that it's funny that ESPN.com has the "Duke headlines the way too early top 25 rankings" as their main story right now.

vfefrenzy
04-05-2016, 01:03 PM
Help me out here y'all. I'm having real trouble deciding. Should I wear my 2010 national champions polo, or the one from last year?

I say 2010. Tar holes seem much saltier about that one.

wilson
04-05-2016, 01:05 PM
Help me out here y'all. I'm having real trouble deciding. Should I wear my 2010 national champions polo, or the one from last year?


I say 2010. Tar Heels seem much saltier about that one.Is your "2010 NIT Runner Up" polo in the wash?

El_Diablo
04-05-2016, 01:15 PM
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bedeviled
04-05-2016, 01:26 PM
6244
a crying Roy from PackPride

subzero02
04-05-2016, 01:57 PM
I really really really wanted unc to lose last night... I truly despise a large segment of their fan base, some of their players are douches and Ole roy is a drama queen supreme. That being said, last night's loss was almost too good... unbelievable.

luburch
04-05-2016, 01:59 PM
6244
a crying Roy from PackPride

This is going to give me nightmares..

Highlander
04-05-2016, 02:26 PM
So question - what's the worst way to lose a championship game - getting blown out (like Duke in 1990) or losing on a last second shot (like UNC 2016)?

IMO, I think losing on a buzzer beater is worse because it was a game that you could have won, but didn't. You constantly go over every play in your head wondering "What if?" And bad officiating becomes a factor because it's a one possession game, and any one of us can find at least one questionable call that went against your team.

Therefore, I contend this was the worst possible way for a team to lose a championship game. And it happened to UNC. :)

The only thing that would have made it worse would be if Duke had beaten them.

FerryFor50
04-05-2016, 02:35 PM
So question - what's the worst way to lose a championship game - getting blown out (like Duke in 1990) or losing on a last second shot (like UNC 2016)?

IMO, I think losing on a buzzer beater is worse because it was a game that you could have won, but didn't. You constantly go over every play in your head wondering "What if?" And bad officiating becomes a factor because it's a one possession game, and any one of us can find at least one questionable call that went against your team.

Therefore, I contend this was the worst possible way for a team to lose a championship game. And it happened to UNC. :)

The only thing that would have made it worse would be if Duke had beaten them.

Buzzer beater is WAY worse. Especially this one.

I think of it like this - as a Duke fan wanting UNC to lose, I was practically rooting for Villanova as if they were Duke. And that game was an emotional roller coaster. When Nova got up by 10, I thought I could relax a little. But then I watched their offense start to crumble and Marcus Paige hitting HUGE clutch shot after clutch shot. Then came the missed FTs. And the double clutch 3 pointer with 4.7 seconds left that tied the game.

I though "crap. This is it. Nova will miss the shot and we'll go into OT, where UNC's depth and lack of foul trouble will wear Nova down."

Then Jenkins drains the dagger and I am elated.

Just imagine reversing that feeling and multiplying it by 20, and adding on the impending NCAA doom.

If it had been a blow out, you are resigned to the loss and you might even turn the TV off instead of hanging around at the edge of your seat way past your bedtime.

This was the perfect ending.

PackMan97
04-05-2016, 02:38 PM
This ending was not perfect.

I'd have preferred 'Nova to lay down a 44 point drubbing on the Heels like they did against OK. Now that would have been epic. This is a good consolation prize if I can't get my historic beatdown.

FerryFor50
04-05-2016, 02:41 PM
This ending was not perfect.

I'd have preferred 'Nova to lay down a 44 point drubbing on the Heels like they did against OK. Now that would have been epic. This is a good consolation prize if I can't get my historic beatdown.

Yea, but if that happens:

- UNC fans turn the game off and start looking forward to baseball season
- We don't get all the reaction videos of the final shot

jv001
04-05-2016, 02:46 PM
6244
a crying Roy from PackPride

Priceless!!!! GoDuke!

BLPOG
04-05-2016, 02:47 PM
This ending was not perfect.

I'd have preferred 'Nova to lay down a 44 point drubbing on the Heels like they did against OK. Now that would have been epic. This is a good consolation prize if I can't get my historic beatdown.

Although I am quite happy with the ending, I agree. UNC lost, but went out in a blaze of glory, so to speak. It's true that the loss probably feels worse to them in the moment, but I would have preferred Villanova to crush them to dust, nuke the dust pile from orbit, and once the glowing goop had cooled a bit, piss on the ashes. The whole athletics scandal has really changed how I look at them. I can't turn the hate knob off 11.

devildeac
04-05-2016, 02:51 PM
This ending was not perfect.

I'd have preferred 'Nova to lay down a 44 point drubbing on the Heels like they did against OK. Now that would have been epic. This is a good consolation prize if I can't get my historic beatdown.


Yea, but if that happens:

- UNC fans turn the game off and start looking forward to baseball season
- We don't get all the reaction videos of the final shot

Not a bad thought. I'd have been happy with a 31 point unc loss, eclipsing the largest prior margin of defeat in a MBB NCAAT championship game, IIRC.

devildeac
04-05-2016, 02:53 PM
Although I am quite happy with the ending, I agree. UNC lost, but went out in a blaze of glory, so to speak. It's true that the loss probably feels worse to them in the moment, but I would have preferred Villanova to crush them to dust, nuke the dust pile from orbit, and once the glowing goop had cooled a bit, piss on the ashes. The whole athletics scandal has really changed how I look at them. I can't turn the hate knob off 11.

I guess there's room on the Mount for a guest...

PackMan97
04-05-2016, 02:55 PM
Yea, but if that happens:

- UNC fans turn the game off and start looking forward to baseball season
- We don't get all the reaction videos of the final shot

While tarheel tears are delicous, I'd much rather have them apathetic and distrested that a blowout loss would provide.

I'm not one that wants to play with my victim, I want the end to be swift and decisive. Instead, this is a game that will go down in NCAA lore as one of the best ever. Regardless of what happens as a result of NCAA sanctions, 30 years from now folks will still be talking about 'Nova v UNC like they do State v. Houston. I don't want them to have that important a place in NCAA history. I'd much rather they be a footnote for worst loss ever in a title game.

Oh well. We can't always get what I want. I'll "settle" for the tears of tarheel nation. I've always wanted to switch my pool to saltwater. It will be nice to swim in them all summer long.

FerryFor50
04-05-2016, 02:56 PM
Not a bad thought. I'd have been happy with a 31 point unc loss, eclipsing the largest prior margin of defeat in a MBB NCAAT championship game, IIRC.

See, I'm more interested in pain.

Losing by 40 points stinks, but it doesn't hurt. You just know you weren't the better team.

Losing on a buzzer beater after leading by 5 at the half, leading by as much as 9, and overcoming a 10 point lead late in the 2nd half? In a game you know in your heart was officiated terribly?

Excruciating. And beautiful.

PackMan97
04-05-2016, 03:04 PM
See, I'm more interested in pain.

Losing by 40 points stinks, but it doesn't hurt. You just know you weren't the better team.

Oh, that would hurt them. To know they weren't even competitive. Not for one second out of two thousand four hundred. It would hurt them.

Then to know the NCAA hammer is going to drop and they'll remember their last moment of glory was just a prelude to 40 point beat down after 40 point beatdown. Except instead of losing to 40 to the NCAA champion, they'll be losing by 40 to BC. To UNC-W. To ECU. To Prarie View A&M. I want their entire future laid out before them as the wasteland it ought to become. I want them to think they never deserve to win another game let alone another NCAA title.

Henderson
04-05-2016, 03:12 PM
See, I'm more interested in pain.

Losing by 40 points stinks, but it doesn't hurt. You just know you weren't the better team.

Losing on a buzzer beater after leading by 5 at the half, leading by as much as 9, and overcoming a 10 point lead late in the 2nd half? In a game you know in your heart was officiated terribly?

Excruciating. And beautiful.


Oh, that would hurt them. To know they weren't even competitive. Not for one second out of two thousand four hundred. It would hurt them.

Regarding UNC-CH and this little problem of theirs, I'm good with hurting them as a metric. More equals better, as usual in life. Humiliation has a lot of hurt. More than losing by a squeak.

devildeac
04-05-2016, 03:20 PM
While tarheel tears are delicous, I'd much rather have them apathetic and distrested that a blowout loss would provide.

I'm not one that wants to play with my victim, I want the end to be swift and decisive. Instead, this is a game that will go down in NCAA lore as one of the best ever. Regardless of what happens as a result of NCAA sanctions, 30 years from now folks will still be talking about 'Nova v UNC like they do State v. Houston. I don't want them to have that important a place in NCAA history. I'd much rather they be a footnote for worst loss ever in a title game.

Oh well. We can't always get what I want. I'll "settle" for the tears of tarheel nation. I've always wanted to switch my pool to saltwater. It will be nice to swim in them all summer long.

You're right. We can't always get what we want, but if you try sometimes, well you just might find, you get what you need ;) .

devildeac
04-05-2016, 03:22 PM
See, I'm more interested in pain.

Losing by 40 points stinks, but it doesn't hurt. You just know you weren't the better team.

Losing on a buzzer beater after leading by 5 at the half, leading by as much as 9, and overcoming a 10 point lead late in the 2nd half? In a game you know in your heart was officiated terribly?

Excruciating. And beautiful.

All valid points, too. Actually, I'm quite happy either way.

devildeac
04-05-2016, 03:23 PM
Oh, that would hurt them. To know they weren't even competitive. Not for one second out of two thousand four hundred. It would hurt them.

Then to know the NCAA hammer is going to drop and they'll remember their last moment of glory was just a prelude to 40 point beat down after 40 point beatdown. Except instead of losing to 40 to the NCAA champion, they'll be losing by 40 to BC. To UNC-W. To ECU. To Prarie View A&M. I want their entire future laid out before them as the wasteland it ought to become. I want them to think they never deserve to win another game let alone another NCAA title.

I still maintain that this fellow deserves at least an honorary place on the Mount...

throatybeard
04-05-2016, 03:55 PM
Is your "2010 NIT Runner Up" polo in the wash?

It disintegrated from overuse.

throatybeard
04-05-2016, 03:57 PM
Is this going to get played over and over forever on TV and in embedded internet videos? It is? Then it's worse than whatever wasn't worse.

Again, sincere thanks to Villanova.

FerryFor50
04-05-2016, 03:59 PM
Is this going to get played over and over forever on TV and in embedded internet videos? It is? Then it's worse than whatever wasn't worse.

Again, sincere thanks to Villanova.

I believe this will go into the regular rotation, side by side with Laettner's shot.

wilson
04-05-2016, 04:01 PM
You're right. We can't always get what we want, but if you try sometimes, well you just might find, you get what you need ;) .According to a heel fan's Facebook feed, at least one chapel hill coffee shop was playing this song on repeat today.
BWAHAHAHAHA

throatybeard
04-05-2016, 04:06 PM
According to a heel fan's Facebook feed, at least one chapel hill coffee shop was playing this song on repeat today.
BWAHAHAHAHA

I was thinking more like


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8hT3oDDf6c

weezie
04-05-2016, 05:33 PM
Priceless!!!! GoDuke!

Hey, is that their homecoming queen?

weezie
04-05-2016, 05:42 PM
The sad, mopey possibilities are indeed endless.

Keep it up! We owe them that much.... :D:D:D

devildeac
04-05-2016, 09:39 PM
Merlindevildog gets the credit for finding this one, AFAIK:


https://vimeo.com/161530299

DukieInKansas
04-05-2016, 09:52 PM
So question - what's the worst way to lose a championship game - getting blown out (like Duke in 1990) or losing on a last second shot (like UNC 2016)?

IMO, I think losing on a buzzer beater is worse because it was a game that you could have won, but didn't. You constantly go over every play in your head wondering "What if?" And bad officiating becomes a factor because it's a one possession game, and any one of us can find at least one questionable call that went against your team.

Therefore, I contend this was the worst possible way for a team to lose a championship game. And it happened to UNC. :)

The only thing that would have made it better would be if Duke had beaten them.

Fixed it for you. It's all in the perspective. :D

Furniture
04-05-2016, 09:57 PM
He actually seemed a little pleased after Novas shot..

https://vine.co/v/iI7P0xQgL1r

Sorry if this was posted somewhere else.

Bostondevil
04-05-2016, 10:29 PM
I went back to The Oracle on levels of losing. (Bill Simmons lost me as a true fan when he went public with his Duke hating, but, I digress).

http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/071001

My take? The 2016 NCAA Final for TarHeel fans will forever be "That Game". Level I. (The guillotine aspect is the coming sanctions.)

-jk
04-06-2016, 05:55 AM
Schadenfreude, indeed: yesterday was the second busiest day of the season on the DBR boards, second only to Feb 18.

-jk

Dr. Rosenrosen
04-06-2016, 06:15 AM
Is this going to get played over and over forever on TV and in embedded internet videos? It is? Then it's worse than whatever wasn't worse.

Again, sincere thanks to Villanova.
Last night in succession it was the subject of the very first bit on each of The Daily Show, The Nightly Show, and @Midnight. Amazing. If heel fans wanted to run and hide from the outcome and try to have a laugh and briefly forget their sorrows, they couldn't.

fan345678
04-06-2016, 07:33 AM
He actually seemed a little pleased after Novas shot..

https://vine.co/v/iI7P0xQgL1r

Sorry if this was posted somewhere else.

Surrounded by UNC alumni who had just suffered a painful defeat, Jordan realized that the person in the building to whom he could most relate was Kris Jenkins.

Channing
04-06-2016, 07:45 AM
I have been disappointed with the small number of fan reaction videos from the unc side.

duke74
04-06-2016, 07:56 AM
Schadenfreude, indeed: yesterday was the second busiest day of the season on the DBR boards, second only to Feb 18.

-jk

Good that our win's reaction exceeded the response to their loss. I guess....

rsvman
04-06-2016, 08:28 AM
As far as the best way for the Heels to lose, that game was the second-best way, in my opinion. I actually laid it all out with my 18-year-old son before the game.

Scenario number one was Villanova beating them by 30.

Scenario number two was what ended up happening: Villanova winning on a buzzer beater.

Scenario number three, which, in my humble opinion, would have been the BEST of all possible scenarios, goes like this: The Heels are down by two points with about 7 seconds left. They advance the ball up the court and get it to Paige on the left wing in his favorite spot. He launches the three right at the buzzer, which goes in. Points are put on the board, the confetti comes down, everybody collapses in a happy hug around Paige. It's celebration pandemonium. Heels win! Heels win!!

But then, the refs go to the monitor. And on the monitor they find that there are like 5 molecules of connection between the very tip of the third finger of Paige's hand and the ball at the time the clock reads double zero and the red light is glowing around the backboard. Therefore, the points are taken OFF the board, and Villanova is declared the victor.

THAT would've been the absolute best way for them to have lost. The entire internet would've been riddled with photos of the ball just BARELY touching his outstretched finger, with the glorious double zero/red light in the background.


Just my opinion.



But still, option number two was pretty danged good, and in every way superior to option number one.

rocketeli
04-06-2016, 08:31 AM
I'm loving it. But you know what's crazy about all this? By any sane measure the tar holes had a spectacular season. They won the ACC regular season, won the ACC tournament, and made it all the way to the national title game, which they almost won. So what makes it fun is chiefly seeing their spoiled fan base cry and whine. (Note to self: don't act like that if Duke ends up in a similar situation some day.)

OldPhiKap
04-06-2016, 08:36 AM
I'm loving it. But you know what's crazy about all this? By any sane measure the Tar Heels had a spectacular season. They won the ACC regular season, won the ACC tournament, and made it all the way to the national title game, which they almost won. So what makes it fun is chiefly seeing their spoiled fan base cry and whine. (Note to self: don't act like that given that it happened to Duke in 1986 and 1999.)

FIFY. We've been there before.

Troublemaker
04-06-2016, 08:41 AM
Good that our win's reaction exceeded the response to their loss. I guess...

Duke didn't win the game Monday night, but Duke won the season vis a vis UNC.

That's a strange thing to say considering UNC obviously had a better team with better results than Duke in the 2015-16 season. But if we adjust the lens and take a multi-season, long-term view of the rivalry, Duke fans feel like winners right now.

The only thing Duke fans NEEDED to have happen this season was for UNC to NOT to win a national title and for Duke to make the tournament. These goals further crystallized when it became clear that Amile would not return from injury this season.

So when Kris Jenkins' shot swished through the net at the buzzer, Duke won the season. Because Duke just won the national title last year. And Duke has won two titles since UNC last "won" one. AND we're going to have a loaded team next season that will be preseason top 3 at worst and likely preseason #1. And UNC now might go several seasons before contending at this level again. AND UNC is facing looming sanctions that might strip away a couple of previous titles!

Monday night came up all roses for Duke vis a vis UNC and the rivalry. We didn't win the game, but we won the season.

gam7
04-06-2016, 08:53 AM
Schadenfreude, indeed: yesterday was the second busiest day of the season on the DBR boards, second only to Feb 18.

-jk

What was the busiest day ever in absolute terms? Also, do you guys still keep the running total of page views that used to be at the bottom of juliovision? Curious what that number would be now...

-jk
04-06-2016, 09:19 AM
What was the busiest day ever in absolute terms? Also, do you guys still keep the running total of page views that used to be at the bottom of juliovision? Curious what that number would be now...

SB keeps stats on the main page, and reports monthly. I've never tried to add them up. DBR is consistently 1.5 to 2+ MM pageviews a month, more in Feb and Mar. On the board side, it's more like 150K to 300K a month.

-jk

killerleft
04-06-2016, 09:28 AM
See, I'm more interested in pain.

Losing by 40 points stinks, but it doesn't hurt. You just know you weren't the better team.

Losing on a buzzer beater after leading by 5 at the half, leading by as much as 9, and overcoming a 10 point lead late in the 2nd half? In a game you know in your heart was officiated terribly?

Excruciating. And beautiful.

I remember losing to UNLV by a record (still) 30 points. Hoping against hope that we would improve our play was excruciating. We should have played much better, we were capable of giving them a good game.

Give me a tough, last-second loss any day. I can get over the sting of a close one when I know we gave the other team our best.

I am still enjoying this Cryolina loss very much, though. :)

CameronBlue
04-06-2016, 09:31 AM
Duke didn't win the game Monday night, but Duke won the season vis a vis UNC.

That's a strange thing to say considering UNC obviously had a better team with better results than Duke in the 2015-16 season. But if we adjust the lens and take a multi-season, long-term view of the rivalry, Duke fans feel like winners right now.

The only thing Duke fans NEEDED to have happen this season was for UNC to NOT to win a national title and for Duke to make the tournament. These goals further crystallized when it became clear that Amile would not return from injury this season.

So when Kris Jenkins' shot swished through the net at the buzzer, Duke won the season. Because Duke just won the national title last year. And Duke has won two titles since UNC last "won" one. AND we're going to have a loaded team next season that will be preseason top 3 at worst and likely preseason #1. And UNC now might go several seasons before contending at this level again. AND UNC is facing looming sanctions that might strip away a couple of previous titles!

Monday night came up all roses for Duke vis a vis UNC and the rivalry. We didn't win the game, but we won the season.

It helps when the rival fanbase is psychotic. UNC fans spent three quarters of the season vilifying Marcus Paige and trotting out the old standard that the game has passed Roy by...and of course there's the refs who keep planting chips in our heads. Their response to UNC's outstanding tournament run is to blame the governing body of the sport which, aside from including peer representatives, is so dysfunctional you naturally assume that organizing an air-tight conspiracy is within its grasp. They're nuts but they are entertaining.

rocketeli
04-06-2016, 09:50 AM
FIFY. We've been there before.

Ugh,yes, I think I still have PTSD. 1986 was just disappointing, but 1999 really hurt.

Henderson
04-06-2016, 10:11 AM
http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/unc-now/article69975172.html


B.B. King said more than 50 years ago that when he was feeling bad -- paying his dues -- he'd just pick up Lucille.

This video won't last 50 years as a pick-me-up, but if I need it, it's good to know it's available. It's an uplifting video. Loved the couple preparing for their post-sorrow plans.

brevity
04-06-2016, 10:15 AM
What was the busiest day ever in absolute terms? Also, do you guys still keep the running total of page views that used to be at the bottom of juliovision? Curious what that number would be now...


SB keeps stats on the main page, and reports monthly. I've never tried to add them up. DBR is consistently 1.5 to 2+ MM pageviews a month, more in Feb and Mar. On the board side, it's more like 150K to 300K a month.

-jk

Also, if you go to the Forum Actions dropdown menu atop this page and select "Mark Forums Read", you can see the current number of active users (DBR members and unregistered guests). But note the second line:


There are currently 648 users online. 149 members and 499 guests
Most users ever online was 2,604, 01-29-2015 at 05:01 PM.

That was 88 minutes after a thread was started announcing that Rasheed Sulaimon was dismissed from the team.

J.Blink
04-06-2016, 12:30 PM
I have got to stop reading IC (but for now it's still too much fun)...

This takes the cake. Using the Internet term, posters over there have doxed the refs. That is, they've posted the refs personal email addresses. I'm not going to link to the thread, but the posts have been already been up for several hours, so it seems the moderators over there don't even care.

Pretty low.

El_Diablo
04-06-2016, 12:34 PM
Typing "UNC Villanova" into Google leads to some pretty pathetic suggested search terms:

6254

94duke
04-06-2016, 02:39 PM
Typing "UNC Villanova" into Google leads to some pretty pathetic suggested search terms:

6254

unfortunately, your google search suggestions are also based on your search history, so there is a bias to the results. try going to google.com while in "incognito" mode and check your results. they will likely be different.
6257

El_Diablo
04-06-2016, 03:00 PM
unfortunately, your google search suggestions are also based on your search history, so there is a bias to the results. try going to google.com while in "incognito" mode and check your results. they will likely be different.
6257

Booooooooo. Well, the "officiating" result is there either way. And the "refs" one is not in my non-incognito suggestions any longer either (it's been replaced by "box score"), but either way I disclaim personal responsibility for that one. It must have been one of my salty UNC colleagues!!! :)

Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
04-06-2016, 03:39 PM
unfortunately, your google search suggestions are also based on your search history, so there is a bias to the results. try going to google.com while in "incognito" mode and check your results. they will likely be different.
6257

Is that why when I type in "Lucy Liu" I get recommendations like "Lucy Liu is in love with me?" I thought I had something special...

Your mileage may vary.

weezie
04-06-2016, 04:19 PM
I have got to stop reading ic... Using the Internet term, posters over there have doxed the refs. That is, they've posted the refs personal email addresses. I'm not going to link to the thread, but the posts have been already been up for several hours, so it seems the moderators over there don't even care.

Pretty low.

Yes it's still there. How about they get a technical assessed at first conference game next year, that's the ticket!

They definitely know we're mocking them here. HELLO LOSERS! :D

BD80
04-06-2016, 05:05 PM
Is that why when I type in "Lucy Liu" I get recommendations like "Lucy Liu is in love with me?" I thought I had something special...

The answer is Elementary ...

throatybeard
04-06-2016, 06:50 PM
Ugh,yes, I think I still have PTSD. 1986 was just disappointing, but 1999 really hurt.

As long as were schadenfreuding, here's a little GeDukenexperiment.

You can have any previous title game loss changed to a win, but you have to pay with one of the five existing championships.

Which one do your trade away? Which one do you trade for?


My answers are only my own, but they would go like this

1963: please tell me more, wise elderly person
1978: very tempting
1986: very very tempting
1990: nah somehow i'm over this, might possibly have to do with 1991
1994: would be more tempting if it weren't right next to 1991 and 1992
1999: nope, coz 2001 took care of this

I'm not sure how I would rank them, but at this remove, 1999 is the one I'm probably least regretful about.

billy
04-06-2016, 07:15 PM
Priceless-a petition to the NCAA to overturn the Villanova victory. Lots of fun comments:

https://www.change.org/p/national-i-want-the-the-unc-villanova-ncaa-championship-game-overturned

OldPhiKap
04-06-2016, 07:22 PM
As long as were schadenfreuding, here's a little GeDukenexperiment.

You can have any previous title game loss changed to a win, but you have to pay with one of the five existing championships.

Which one do your trade away? Which one do you trade for?


My answers are only my own, but they would go like this

1963: please tell me more, wise elderly person
1978: very tempting
1986: very very tempting
1990: nah somehow i'm over this, might possibly have to do with 1991
1994: would be more tempting if it weren't right next to 1991 and 1992
1999: nope, coz 2001 took care of this

I'm not sure how I would rank them, but at this remove, 1999 is the one I'm probably least regretful about.

I take 86. Can't answer the second part, although it would not be the back-to-back ones.

TKG
04-06-2016, 07:23 PM
Priceless-a petition to the NCAA to overturn the Villanova victory. Lots of fun comments:

https://www.change.org/p/national-i-want-the-the-unc-villanova-ncaa-championship-game-overturned


Somewhere Sam Cassell is laughing - whine and cheesy crowd, indeed.

Newton_14
04-06-2016, 10:26 PM
Typing "UNC Villanova" into Google leads to some pretty pathetic suggested search terms:

6254

To me, this whinefest over ref's makes our joy of their loss even better! Love it!

sagegrouse
04-06-2016, 10:37 PM
As long as were schadenfreuding, here's a little GeDukenexperiment.

You can have any previous title game loss changed to a win, but you have to pay with one of the five existing championships.

Which one do your trade away? Which one do you trade for?


My answers are only my own, but they would go like this

1963: please tell me more, wise elderly person
1978: very tempting
1986: very very tempting
1990: nah somehow i'm over this, might possibly have to do with 1991
1994: would be more tempting if it weren't right next to 1991 and 1992
1999: nope, coz 2001 took care of this

I'm not sure how I would rank them, but at this remove, 1999 is the one I'm probably least regretful about.
I'd take 1964. (We weren't in the title game in 1963.) In fact, I really thought we were gonna win -- we sailed through the Regionals at Reynolds, and UCLA had no one over 6-5.

I dunno which one I would give up. But, if we had actually won in 1964, we might also have won in 1966.

Bostondevil
04-06-2016, 10:42 PM
As long as were schadenfreuding, here's a little GeDukenexperiment.

You can have any previous title game loss changed to a win, but you have to pay with one of the five existing championships.

Which one do your trade away? Which one do you trade for?


My answers are only my own, but they would go like this

1963: please tell me more, wise elderly person
1978: very tempting
1986: very very tempting
1990: nah somehow i'm over this, might possibly have to do with 1991
1994: would be more tempting if it weren't right next to 1991 and 1992
1999: nope, coz 2001 took care of this

I'm not sure how I would rank them, but at this remove, 1999 is the one I'm probably least regretful about.

Easy.

'86 for 2010.

DukeDevil
04-06-2016, 10:49 PM
Easy.

'86 for 2010.

I was in attendance for 2010. A pox on you sir.

pfrduke
04-06-2016, 11:01 PM
Easy.

'86 for 2010.

'86 is the right answer as for which one to take. I think '15 is the one to give up. '10 was really important - we had 9 years since a title, 6 since a final four, a sudden rep for underperforming in the tournament, and 2 UNC titles in the prior 5 years. Plus that team was just so wonderful.

And, if '15 doesn't happen, maybe Tyus Jones stays for '16 and the '16 team is that much better.

Bostondevil
04-06-2016, 11:22 PM
I was in attendance for 2010. A pox on you sir.

I was in attendance in 1986.

A pox on you.

And it's ma'am.

Bostondevil
04-06-2016, 11:25 PM
'86 is the right answer as for which one to take. I think '15 is the one to give up. '10 was really important - we had 9 years since a title, 6 since a final four, a sudden rep for underperforming in the tournament, and 2 UNC titles in the prior 5 years. Plus that team was just so wonderful.

And, if '15 doesn't happen, maybe Tyus Jones stays for '16 and the '16 team is that much better.

Makes sense. Still not my choice. We're never getting '86 no matter what deals we make though. Sigh.

Troublemaker
04-06-2016, 11:50 PM
'86 for '92. Most of the '92 team already got a championship in '91 (obviously). When Florida repeated in 2007, we could no longer say we were the only repeat champion since Wooden.

Troublemaker
04-07-2016, 12:03 AM
Let me add that the decision isn't easy. '92 is Duke's submission for "greatest teams ever" discussions in large part because '92 repeated. It would hurt a lot to have lost that championship, especially if it were lost in the Elite 8 to Kentucky on a lucky Sean Woods bank shot. Ultimately, though, I decided that the '86 for '92 swap is the only swap that would provide a significant net increase in Duke players that have won NCAA titles.

TruBlu
04-07-2016, 04:15 AM
I was in attendance for 2010. A pox on you sir.

I was in attendance in 86 and 2010.

2010 helped ease the pain (and massive hangover) of 86.

devildeac
04-07-2016, 06:03 AM
I was in attendance in 1986.

A pox on you.

And it's ma'am.

That would be Hell Yes Ma'am!

http://raleighbrewingcompany.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/InfoSheet_HellYes.pdf

MarkD83
04-07-2016, 06:04 AM
As long as were schadenfreuding, here's a little GeDukenexperiment.

You can have any previous title game loss changed to a win, but you have to pay with one of the five existing championships.

Which one do your trade away? Which one do you trade for?


My answers are only my own, but they would go like this

1963: please tell me more, wise elderly person
1978: very tempting
1986: very very tempting
1990: nah somehow i'm over this, might possibly have to do with 1991
1994: would be more tempting if it weren't right next to 1991 and 1992
1999: nope, coz 2001 took care of this

I'm not sure how I would rank them, but at this remove, 1999 is the one I'm probably least regretful about.

Since this is entirely hypothetical I will think outside the box...

I will trade 1993 for 1978
I will trade 2005 for 1986
and I will trade 2009 for 1999
Oh and I will trade the 1924 Helms thingy for 1994

JBDuke
04-07-2016, 06:38 AM
This needs to be shared in this thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q90gWwtvmbk

Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
04-07-2016, 07:02 AM
Since this is entirely hypothetical I will think outside the box...

I will trade 1993 for 1978
I will trade 2005 for 1986
and I will trade 2009 for 1999
Oh and I will trade the 1924 Helms thingy for 1994

Good news for you - you might get to trade 1993 - 2009 for an angry letter from the NCAA.

jjasper0729
04-07-2016, 07:04 AM
This needs to be shared in this thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q90gWwtvmbk

Watched it.. it's perfect... especially like the way they timed the shot going in with the music at the 1:02 mark... perfect :)

OldPhiKap
04-07-2016, 07:25 AM
This needs to be shared in this thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q90gWwtvmbk

Brilliant.

Indoor66
04-07-2016, 08:00 AM
My take is that I give up none and Verga not get sick and Givens not get hot. That resolves '66 and '78. '64 was the start of an era and I can live with that.

Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
04-07-2016, 08:06 AM
This needs to be shared in this thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q90gWwtvmbk

That's... ahem... quite amusing.

Bostondevil
04-07-2016, 08:19 AM
I liked this one too - same Youtube poster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oqxaBeCqMo&nohtml5=False

Doria
04-07-2016, 11:00 AM
Truthfully, when I saw that video of Ramses the mascot going down--however it happened--all I could think of was the "adopt a UNC fan" parody that circulated at the end of the season, complete with the Sarah McLauchlin song and opening B&W shot of Ramses with his/its head in its hands.

Olympic Fan
04-07-2016, 11:14 AM
As a long-time Duke fan, let me say I wouldn't trade any championship for another year.

I will say that of the years when it didn't work, I would rank disappointments this way:

1. 1986 -- the first great K team, a group of guys who built the program from absolutely nothing to the top of the heap. Plus, they were the best team in the country that season ... they just ran out of gas late in the season (both Henderson and Alarie were on fumes in postseason, only Dawkins and Amaker were still fresh).

2. 1999 -- Beat UConn in the title game and THIS would arguably be the greatest Duke and ACC team of all time. Nobody every dominated the ACC like these guys -- 19-0 (counting the tournament) without a close game.

3. 1994 -- a gritty group of overachievers who rode Grant Hill's talent to within a fingernail of the national title.

4. 1978 -- Forever's Team ... a young team in an era when young teams never won. But also a turnaround team -- after four straight years as last in the ACC, they play for the national title. A little easier to take because they did lose to a better team, even if Goose Givens was out of his mind that night in St. Louis.

5. 1966 -- because of Verga's illness. This team did falter in the semifinals. Who knows what happens if they play Texas Western in the finals? It certainly rewrites history either way.

6. 2004 -- Again, a semifinal loss, but they would have beaten Georgia Tech in the finals. It hurts because it was such a poorly officiated game -- note, I'm not claiming Duke got screwed ... UConn got screwed too. It would have been nice to see this game play out with decent refs.

These are the only ones that really bother me. I can live with the other disappointments -- even 1989, when Brickey's injury changed the course of the semifinal game with Seton Hall.

But as much as I wish 1986 could have won a title, I wouldn't give up one of the five championships Duke did win to give them one.

Honestly, those are the only ones

rsvman
04-07-2016, 12:09 PM
Priceless-a petition to the NCAA to overturn the Villanova victory. Lots of fun comments:

https://www.change.org/p/national-i-want-the-the-unc-villanova-ncaa-championship-game-overturned

This one is my personal favorite, at least for now:

"The refs were very bias. Many times they let Villinova get away with alot of walks. As a basketball player I can tell you that letting a guy travel like that makes him hard to defend. Are guys work very hard on the court and in the classroom. Its not write for them to loose the game because of the refs. This was there championship that the refs stole."

Tyler Hansbrough, Pleasant Hill, NC

stillcrazie
04-07-2016, 12:14 PM
This needs to be shared in this thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q90gWwtvmbk

The best part was that right after that video ended, the next video up on youtube was Blue Devils: 2015 National Champions!!!

DukieInKansas
04-07-2016, 12:28 PM
This one is my personal favorite, at least for now:

"The refs were very bias. Many times they let Villinova get away with alot of walks. As a basketball player I can tell you that letting a guy travel like that makes him hard to defend. Are guys work very hard on the court and in the classroom. Its not write for them to loose the game because of the refs. This was there championship that the refs stole."

Tyler Hansbrough, Pleasant Hill, NC

Would have been perfect if it had been written in Swahili. :D

BandAlum83
04-07-2016, 12:35 PM
Booooooooo. Well, the "officiating" result is there either way. And the "refs" one is not in my non-incognito suggestions any longer either (it's been replaced by "box score"), but either way I disclaim personal responsibility for that one. It must have been one of my salty UNC colleagues!!! :)

Officiating isn't on mine. I get buzzer beater, parade, basketball, and wildcats.

and villanova mia khalifa.

I don't get that last one.









That last one's a joke, in case anyone is lost.

BandAlum83
04-07-2016, 12:40 PM
Easy.

'86 for 2010.

Agreed. In fact, I have always felt that 2010 was the karmic make-up for 1986.

!986 being the year we had the undeniable best TEAM in the country. 2010 being the year we quite clearly didn't have the best team in the country.

wilson
04-07-2016, 12:44 PM
This one is my personal favorite, at least for now:

"The refs were very bias. Many times they let Villinova get away with alot of walks. As a basketball player I can tell you that letting a guy travel like that makes him hard to defend. Are guys work very hard on the court and in the classroom. Its not write for them to loose the game because of the refs. This was there championship that the refs stole."

Tyler Hansbrough, Pleasant Hill, NCI just signed under the name "Roy Knew" and added the following comment. Google Translate might be of some help.
Sina maana ya kejeli chochote, hivyo mimi kusaini dua hii ya kujiandikisha hisia zangu za dhuluma kwamba amelazwa yangu, kudanganya timu ni kwa namna fulani walioonewa na wengine wanaovunja sheria bila matokeo.

Indoor66
04-07-2016, 12:54 PM
This one is my personal favorite, at least for now:

"The refs were very bias. Many times they let Villinova get away with alot of walks. As a basketball player I can tell you that letting a guy travel like that makes him hard to defend. Are guys work very hard on the court and in the classroom. Its not write for them to loose the game because of the refs. This was there championship that the refs stole."

Tyler Hansbrough, Pleasant Hill, NC

Great spelling there, Tyler. Check out the last sentence.

BandAlum83
04-07-2016, 12:57 PM
Great spelling there, Tyler. Check out the last sentence.

What's up with this one????


As a life long Carolina fan and Duke alum, I was appalled at the officiating Monday night. The game must be replayed.

Jason Evans, Atlanta, GA

Could it be a podcast loving Carolina Lurker is creeping on our man Jason???

BLPOG
04-07-2016, 12:57 PM
This one is my personal favorite, at least for now:

"The refs were very bias. Many times they let Villinova get away with alot of walks. As a basketball player I can tell you that letting a guy travel like that makes him hard to defend. Are guys work very hard on the court and in the classroom. Its not write for them to loose the game because of the refs. This was there championship that the refs stole."

Tyler Hansbrough, Pleasant Hill, NC

Too subtle.

WiJoe
04-07-2016, 06:57 PM
What's up with this one????


As a life long Carolina fan and Duke alum, I was appalled at the officiating Monday night. The game must be replayed.

Jason Evans, Atlanta, GA

Could it be a podcast loving Carolina Lurker is creeping on our man Jason???

wheat?

OZ
04-07-2016, 07:37 PM
Quote Originally Posted by rsvman View Post

This one is my personal favorite, at least for now:

"The refs were very bias. Many times they let Villinova get away with alot of walks. As a basketball player I can tell you that letting a guy travel like that makes him hard to defend. Are guys work very hard on the court and in the classroom. Its not write for them to loose the game because of the refs. This was there championship that the refs stole."

Tyler Hansbrough, Pleasant Hill, NC





Would have been perfect if it had been written in Swahili. :D



...or in English!

Rich
04-07-2016, 07:53 PM
Easy.

'86 for 2010.

Completely agree. I was a Duke student in 1986 and IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE BEST PARTY AND NIGHT OF MY LIFE!!! Instead, it was one of the most depressing. I will never forgive Pervis Ellison for taking that away from me.

2010 was so unexpected, I guess I could give that one up since we have 2015 and 2017! ;)

wavedukefan70s
04-07-2016, 08:09 PM
This one is my personal favorite, at least for now:

"The refs were very bias. Many times they let Villinova get away with alot of walks. As a basketball player I can tell you that letting a guy travel like that makes him hard to defend. Are guys work very hard on the court and in the classroom. Its not write for them to loose the game because of the refs. This was there championship that the refs stole."

Tyler Hansbrough, Pleasant Hill, NC

I am in tears.wholly cow.

throatybeard
04-10-2016, 09:49 PM
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