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Troublemaker
01-03-2016, 08:54 PM
Let's get the ball rolling on this thread.

My initial gut feeling... we lose this one.

But let's hope my gut is horribly wrong.

gocanes0506
01-03-2016, 08:59 PM
Watching the Wake UL game gives me doubts as well. A lack of a good big man will hurt us. I hope to see more Jeter. Chase can keep up with Thomas better than Marshall.

MarkD83
01-03-2016, 09:03 PM
I have always considered Coach K to be a perimeter oriented coach and wondered how well Duke would do if they had a group of high scoring perimeter players all who could go for 20 on any given night. Well I am getting to find out.

As far as Wake goes, my only concern is that for some reason Duke always has trouble at Wake, much like they always have trouble at NCSU.

However, if they can find their shots I just like watching the show.

Rich
01-03-2016, 11:26 PM
Wake looked tough tonight at L'ville and will have a wild home crowd and that annoying Zombie Nation song pushing them on against Duke. Also, it will be our first true road game. I'll remain optimistic, hope we can come out with a W, and free from any further injury. Devin Thomas, who seems like he's been there forever and has a bit of dirtiness in him (he clearly undercut a L'ville player on a rebound in the last few minutes), usually seems to make his presence known at home against the Blue Devils. Our bigs will have their hands full.

Troublemaker
01-04-2016, 12:18 AM
The first coaching decision of the game belongs to Danny Manning. What is he going to do about Brandon Ingram?

The most boring choice he could make -- and the most likely choice -- is zone. That way neither Mitoglou nor Thomas have to matchup with Brandon. Then, it'll be up to Duke to run good zone offense and make shots.

The second-most likely choice is for Manning to take his chances with Mitoglou or Thomas guarding Brandon in man-to-man. That would be fun. We don't necessarily have to iso Brandon if this happens although isos should be effective. We could, for example, bring Marshall out to set a ball screen and see how the combination of Mitoglou and Thomas can guard that action.

The least likely choice is for Manning to downsize and play Hudson or McClinton at the 4. That would play right into Duke's hands and is the choice we should hope he makes. But I don't expect it.

CDu
01-04-2016, 09:59 AM
When I was doing the Phase III post, this was the one game on the schedule that scared me most. Wake is a dangerous team, especially at home. They have talent both inside (Devin Thomas) and outside (Miller-McIntyre, Crawford). They are athletic and physical. They are experienced. And for whatever reason, the Joel is a tough place to play.

In theory (according to Pomeroy), Syracuse and Notre Dame and Clemson are better teams. But I have my doubts as to how accurate those assessments are. By season's end, Wake may in fact wind up better than those three teams.

If this game were in Cameron, I'd say we win handily. But playing Wake in the Joel is just a tough task nearly every year, and I expect it to be tough this year with our lack of experience and depth.

dukebballcamper90-91
01-04-2016, 10:10 AM
Wake doesn't look like a real threat from outside. They like to run and are a bit out of control. Thornton will have to play more mins at pg for us. Wake has some long scrappy guys. I know they usually get up for us and UNC at the Joel so we need to control tempo early.

CDu
01-04-2016, 10:20 AM
Wake doesn't look like a real threat from outside. They like to run and are a bit out of control. Thornton will have to play more mins at pg for us. Wake has some long scrappy guys. I know they usually get up for us and UNC at the Joel so we need to control tempo early.

Wake has 3 terrific shooters: Crawford (42% from 3), Mitoglou (38%), and Wilbekin (35% so far this year, but 38.6% last year). They rarely have less than two 3pt shooters on the floor. They aren't a spread-the-floor team like Duke (their SFs McClinton and Hudson are baseline lurkers rather than shooters), but they aren't a terrible perimeter shooting team.

But this team's strength is definitely Devin Thomas. He has long been a guy with solid potential but lacking consistency. Well, now he's averaging 16 points and 10 rebounds per game. He has become a legitimate star, and should be on the All-ACC list this year. Plumlee and Jeter will have their hands full with him.

The questions will be whether Miller-McIntyre will be back in form. He has recently returned from a broken foot, but hasn't yet regained his All-ACC form. If he finds his legs again, we will be in for a dogfight.

whereinthehellami
01-04-2016, 10:27 AM
I look for WF to try and get Plumlee in foul trouble early. And i think it will work. So what will Duke do then? Thomas for WF will be the one trying to take advantage of that situation the most and he is a 58% FT shooter. So, whatever Duke does in that situation it would be prudent to make Thomas go to the FT line. That strategy does not help Duke with it's depth though. It will be interesting to see how it unfolds.

devildeac
01-04-2016, 10:35 AM
The Devil Inside has me really concerned about this game, especially w/some recent foul fests we've had up there and our current lack of depth. Of course, I may be worried a bit in excess over this.

Lar77
01-04-2016, 10:53 AM
The Devil Inside has me really concerned about this game, especially w/some recent foul fests we've had up there and our current lack of depth. Of course, I may be worried a bit in excess over this.

I think your concern is well placed. I still remember the game where Duke had 5 guys foul out at the Joel (Wake had 3). I expect that Wake will be very aggressive and try to get us into foul trouble early.

My guess is it's a close game and we will be screaming about the referees. Brandon will need Kevlar. Wake may remember when Grayson outscored them last year and want payback. Regardless, we need to be careful about cheap fouls early and MP3 needs to stay on Thomas without fouling him. Zone early on might be seen until we get the feel of the refs.

Troublemaker
01-04-2016, 11:40 AM
I think Duke is going to use Brandon to double-team Thomas and get the ball out of his hands, similar to the strategy we used against Utah's Poeltl, another high-usage, very good big man. Thomas is one of the best big men in the country at drawing fouls and getting to the line. If we don't double-team and instead allow Thomas to faceup Marshall and drive into his chest over and over again, Thomas' preferred offensive move, Marshall will foul out in 15 minutes.

Against Utah, Brandon's double-teams were effective because he's such a lengthy player and was able to close out effectively against players shorter than him; Brandon was basically able to guard two players at once. Against Wake, he's mostly going to be leaving Mitoglou, who is 6'10", 245-lb and I'm not sure that Brandon's closeouts will freak Mitoglou. We'll just have to hope that Mitoglou has an off-shooting night from three. Say, 2-for-7. If, on the other hand, Mitoglou has a great shooting night -- e.g. 5-for-7 -- we're probably toast.

Saratoga2
01-04-2016, 11:54 AM
I think your concern is well placed. I still remember the game where Duke had 5 guys foul out at the Joel (Wake had 3). I expect that Wake will be very aggressive and try to get us into foul trouble early.

My guess is it's a close game and we will be screaming about the referees. Brandon will need Kevlar. Wake may remember when Grayson outscored them last year and want payback. Regardless, we need to be careful about cheap fouls early and MP3 needs to stay on Thomas without fouling him. Zone early on might be seen until we get the feel of the refs.

I would advocate Marshall playing aggressively even if he does pick up more fouls. I want Marshall to go hard for blocks and rebounds. None of the silly fouls he used to get but ones where he is aggressively playing defense might improve his play. Jeter is showing signs of improving and should be able to spell Marshall enough to keep him in the game and fresh. This is going to be a tough match and we need more from the front court play.

dukelifer
01-04-2016, 04:27 PM
When I was doing the Phase III post, this was the one game on the schedule that scared me most. Wake is a dangerous team, especially at home. They have talent both inside (Devin Thomas) and outside (Miller-McIntyre, Crawford). They are athletic and physical. They are experienced. And for whatever reason, the Joel is a tough place to play.

In theory (according to Pomeroy), Syracuse and Notre Dame and Clemson are better teams. But I have my doubts as to how accurate those assessments are. By season's end, Wake may in fact wind up better than those three teams.

If this game were in Cameron, I'd say we win handily. But playing Wake in the Joel is just a tough task nearly every year, and I expect it to be tough this year with our lack of experience and depth.

A very tough game- for all sorts of reasons including Wake being embarrassed by Duke the last time they played. Duke will be very lucky to come out with a win. Wake had Xavier down 18 but then let it get away from them. They also had last year's team down 2 or 3 points with just a few minutes to play last year at Wake. They are inconsistent and can get rattled- so Duke will need to play very smart throughout and keep it close. If Duke can stay within striking distance- they have a chance to get out of Dodge.

Troublemaker
01-04-2016, 06:08 PM
"Extra" possessions will be huge in this game. Duke is vulnerable to giving up offensive boards. Wake Forest is vulnerable to committing turnovers (ranking 254th in turnover rate). We need the latter to even out the former.

If, for example, Wake is +7 on the boards BUT Wake has committed 15 turnovers to Duke's 8 turnovers, I think Duke will win.

superdave
01-04-2016, 06:35 PM
How come Devin Thomas put up 24 on us the first game last year vs. 0 the second time? Was he injured?

He scored 16 total points over a four game stretch at the end of last season: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/61162/year/2015/devin-thomas

Sounds like an injury.

dukelifer
01-04-2016, 06:50 PM
How come Devin Thomas put up 24 on us the first game last year vs. 0 the second time? Was he injured?

He scored 16 total points over a four game stretch at the end of last season: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/61162/year/2015/devin-thomas

Sounds like an injury.

Not sure but he is a very emotional player. When he gets on a roll he is a load. But he can disappear as well. Usually players play their best against Duke as they know the world is watching - so I expect he will have a big game.

CameronDuke
01-04-2016, 07:08 PM
It appears I may be in the minority in this thread, and I'm not trying to start anything, but I actually am not any more or less worried about this game than I am any ACC road game. I saw Wake play last night and guess what, yea they're a quality ACC team that will give Duke their best shot on their home court Wednesday night. Nothing new there. Crawford is a good freshman and Thomas is a force on the blocks. However, we have the best driving guard in the league, the lock for ACC Freshman of the Year, and plenty of defensive muscle on the wing in Jones. If Kennard can hit some 3s and Thornton takes care of the ball, I like us to win Wednesday night.

Olympic Fan
01-04-2016, 07:22 PM
How come Devin Thomas put up 24 on us the first game last year vs. 0 the second time? Was he injured?

He scored 16 total points over a four game stretch at the end of last season: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/61162/year/2015/devin-thomas

Sounds like an injury.

Nope ... it was all attitude -- kind of like Norman Dale having to break his ponies at Hickory. Manning was trying to get Thomas with the program and Thomas was resisting.

The struggle seems to have paid off. Thomas has been one of the ACC's most consistent players this season.

Sure to be a great atmosphere at Joel for the game. Wake fans are still steamed at Duke and K for "stealing" Harry Giles. That one hurt. They were sure he's there. They'll pack the place (which hasn't happened that often in recent years -- and when it did, it was visiting Duke or UNC fans filling it up).

NSDukeFan
01-04-2016, 10:16 PM
The Devil Inside has me really concerned about this game, especially w/some recent foul fests we've had up there and our current lack of depth. Of course, I may be worried a bit in excess over this.

If MP3 can stay out of foul trouble, they will never tear us apart inside. I am still hoping Jeter will be a new sensation sometime this year.

JPtheGame
01-05-2016, 12:18 AM
Here's some hope for those of us worried about depth; OU just went toe to toe with KU in the phog in a 3OT thriller. In that game OU got exactly one bucket from a nonstarter. One guy going for almost 50 helps but still....

Edouble
01-05-2016, 12:40 AM
When I was doing the Phase III post, this was the one game on the schedule that scared me most. Wake is a dangerous team, especially at home. They have talent both inside (Devin Thomas) and outside (Miller-McIntyre, Crawford). They are athletic and physical. They are experienced. And for whatever reason, the Joel is a tough place to play.

In theory (according to Pomeroy), Syracuse and Notre Dame and Clemson are better teams. But I have my doubts as to how accurate those assessments are. By season's end, Wake may in fact wind up better than those three teams.

If this game were in Cameron, I'd say we win handily. But playing Wake in the Joel is just a tough task nearly every year, and I expect it to be tough this year with our lack of experience and depth.

FYI, my little cousin is a freshman at Wake this year. She is returning to Winston-Salem this weekend for classes on the following Monday. I'm thinking the crowd may not be in typical conference season form quite yet.

Furniture
01-05-2016, 10:07 PM
Just got two tickets!!
Looking forward to a good game and a Duke win!!

moonpie23
01-06-2016, 12:02 AM
just bring it....we have to play these games to get better....yeah, we're gonna lose a few.......

Troublemaker
01-06-2016, 01:11 AM
Duke opens as 7.5-pt favorites at Wake.

At first blush, that line seems insane to me, but I guess we'll see.

Note: the line does match KenPom's projection, but KenPom's system doesn't adjust for injuries.

Troublemaker
01-06-2016, 02:01 AM
I think Duke is going to use Brandon to double-team Thomas and get the ball out of his hands, similar to the strategy we used against Utah's Poeltl, another high-usage, very good big man.

We really should just use whoever is guarding Miller-Mcintyre (rusty from injury return, career 26% from three) or Hudson (career 30% from three) to double-team Thomas.

I like Brandon's length on double-teams but in this matchup, he really should just stay home on Mitoglou.

Saratoga2
01-06-2016, 07:13 AM
This is a true road game but one in which the majority of the students are not yet back so while loud it shouldn't be totally crazy. Good thing as we are still a young team going in. We have 5 guys who have the ability to score in the higher double figures in any given night. Missing Amile means we are missing the experienced defender who communicates to the players in the back court plus rebounding and a presents a threat to score inside, so it looks like a close game to me.

Keys on Offense

1 Can Wake stop Grayson from slashing to the basket? BC did by packing it in but Grayson found a way to get to the basket after TO's and got a ton of fouls shots.
2. Will Brandon playing the 4 for 40 minutes against an aggressive and physical defense wear on his offensive game. He played 40 against BC but Wake is more physical.
3. Will Luke have his 3 point shot falling? The hostile environment doesn't seem to to a problem for him since he appears to be unflappable.


Keys on Defense

1. Will Marshall/Chase play aggressively and hold their own inside? Need a better stat line than the BC game.

Would love to see this one but my wife has other ideas

DukieTiger
01-06-2016, 07:53 AM
^Regarding this being a softer than normal true road game, Duke's road schedule has lined up perfectly for such a young team this year. You could argue that the first "real" ACC road game will come in road game #4, at NC State. BC and Wake students are still on break, and Clemson is playing 45 minutes away from campus in an arena where I am guessing there will be a decent amount of blue.

Wake and Clemson look to be tough games and I have a feeling we drop one of the two- but you couldn't ask for a more ideal way to ease the freshmen into ACC road life. They shouldn't be shell shocked once they do experience the true hostile environment.

As for this game, I'm very concerned about rebounding and about Ingram wearing down if he's matched up with Thomas all game. I wonder if we would see more of Jeter tonight, or maybe even try to steal a couple of minutes with Obi/Vrank?

jv001
01-06-2016, 09:16 AM
The two players that I'm most concerned about are Thomas and Wilbekin. Thomas has been a force this season and seems to have his emotions under control. As for Wilbekin, as Cdu stated, he's shooting 35% from three this season but shot close to 39% last season. He seems to step up in the games that I've watched Wake play. I sure hope we win as the Deacon fans around Winston Salem are almost as bad as the uncheat fans. GoDuke!

JasonEvans
01-06-2016, 09:20 AM
Duke opens as 7.5-pt favorites at Wake.

At first blush, that line seems insane to me, but I guess we'll see.

Note: the line does match KenPom's projection, but KenPom's system doesn't adjust for injuries.

Many casinos have moved the line to 8. I am sorely tempted to bet on Wake at that number. 8 points is a lot for an ACC road game against a decent opponent who does the exact thing that your team struggles to stop.

-Jason "we should have a thread where a few of us get a mythical $5000 and then we keep track of wagers during the season... anyone else game for this?" Evans

rsvman
01-06-2016, 09:29 AM
Many casinos have moved the line to 8. I am sorely tempted to bet on Wake at that number. 8 points is a lot for an ACC road game against a decent opponent who does the exact thing that your team struggles to stop.

-Jason "we should have a thread where a few of us get a mythical $5000 and then we keep track of wagers during the season... anyone else game for this?" Evans

Agree, although if we are shooting well from 3, I could see a double-digit victory.

And I'm definitely game for the mythical betting thread.

Henderson
01-06-2016, 09:51 AM
Many casinos have moved the line to 8. I am sorely tempted to bet on Wake at that number. 8 points is a lot for an ACC road game against a decent opponent who does the exact thing that your team struggles to stop.

-Jason "we should have a thread where a few of us get a mythical $5000 and then we keep track of wagers during the season... anyone else game for this?" Evans

I do play this game from time to time. It's a psychological hedge. This game is a perfect example. If Duke is favored by 8, it's fun to put a few bucks on Wake. If Wake wins (ugh), I at least get paid beer money with which to drown my sorrows. If Duke wins big, I lose a few bucks and don't care. If Duke wins by 7, it's not ideal, but there is both a win and a payoff.

Playing with monopoly money doesn't really work quite as well. For fake bets to be equivalent, you'd have to be betting pretend money on pretend games.

Troublemaker
01-06-2016, 09:55 AM
Many casinos have moved the line to 8. I am sorely tempted to bet on Wake at that number. 8 points is a lot for an ACC road game against a decent opponent who does the exact thing that your team struggles to stop.

-Jason "we should have a thread where a few of us get a mythical $5000 and then we keep track of wagers during the season... anyone else game for this?" Evans

I'd be down, naturally. Great idea, Jason.

OldPhiKap
01-06-2016, 10:06 AM
I'd be down, naturally. Great idea, Jason.

Me too, although I hate to bet against the spread and for an opponent.

with an eight point spread and a bankroll of $5k, put me down $425 for Wake to cover at home.

LGD!

BD80
01-06-2016, 10:22 AM
...
-Jason "we should have a thread where a few of us get a mythical $5000 and then we keep track of wagers during the season... anyone else game for this?" Evans

Can we call ourselves DaftKings?

flyingdutchdevil
01-06-2016, 10:26 AM
I'm in. Always down the gambling

bluedev_92
01-06-2016, 10:41 AM
I think we win this one. For those of you that are NCIS fans - call it "my gut" instinct!

Looking for Ingram to have a big game & Luke to put out a good all around effort - driving & shooting.


Go Duke!

Lar77
01-06-2016, 11:11 AM
Like the idea of the mythical $5,000 game.

On tonight's game, I'll repeat my earlier call: lots of fouls. Thinking about it and looking at some other comments, I think we pose a matchup problem for them. The key is keeping Thomas from having a breakout, which could happen. Probably more Jeter and Obi/Vrank will be needed, because there will be a lot of fouls inside. Wake has Thomas, Mitoglou (who benefits from teams doubling on Thomas), and Miller-McIntyre/Wilbekin (both are capable of 20, but don't do it at the same time).

On defense. our guards are better than theirs. Matt will shut down Mitoglou. Ingram can help when Thomas goes out to the elbow (Collins doesn't yet seem like a guy to benefit from double teaming). Offensively, they don't match up well to us.

If a lot of fouls get called early, Wake has a chance, but I'll put a mythical $1,000 on Duke giving 8.

Billy Dat
01-06-2016, 11:19 AM
If this game were in Cameron, I'd say we win handily. But playing Wake in the Joel is just a tough task nearly every year, and I expect it to be tough this year with our lack of experience and depth.

I agree, this game has me really worried because it feels like Joel is always a hard W for us (or an L). Our team still has no signature win so it's hard to figure out just how good we are. With our ACC schedule so back loaded, games like this are essential to keep punching that W (and NCAA) ticket.

Let's see how we defend.

CDu
01-06-2016, 11:30 AM
Our team still has no signature win so it's hard to figure out just how good we are. With our ACC schedule so back loaded, games like this are essential to keep punching that W (and NCAA) ticket.

Yeah, it's been a really weird start to the year. We lost badly to the only truly ranked team on our schedule so far, and we are just 2-2 overall against the top-50 teams in Pomeroy rankings (for whatever those rankings are worth this early in the season). It's really hard to tell how good this team really is at this point. I hope they are really good, but there are definite questions. Winning this game would be a step toward building my confidence in this group.

Billy Dat
01-06-2016, 12:01 PM
Yeah, it's been a really weird start to the year. We lost badly to the only truly ranked team on our schedule so far, and we are just 2-2 overall against the top-50 teams in Pomeroy rankings (for whatever those rankings are worth this early in the season). It's really hard to tell how good this team really is at this point. I hope they are really good, but there are definite questions. Winning this game would be a step toward building my confidence in this group.

It is very easy to play the "everyone gets up for Duke" card. I want to play it myself. I was in the building for VCU, and they were playing their butts off. Kentucky looked great against us, especially the guards and Marcus Lee - compare that to how they looked in getting smoked by LSU last night. Georgetown looked good, Utah looked good. Only Indiana - our best KenPom win - looked terrible. Did those teams play better against us then in their other games? As a Duke fan, and maybe just in general, it is nearly impossible to judge. The national story line on Duke right now is - "Duke is an unknown, they haven't beaten anyone, Amile Jefferson is hurt, they've lost to their only decent opponents". In general, I think it's good that we are under-the-radar, especially with such a green team. That's why tonight feels like a big game, for this group to win in Joel no matter the thin nature of the crowd or the potentially hobbled Demon Deacon stars is a step up from winning in Chesnut Hill, is another ACC road win, and another bit of growth as we try and build an NCAA resume.

Indoor66
01-06-2016, 12:14 PM
I think we win this one. For those of you that are NCIS fans - call it "my gut" instinct!

Looking for Ingram to have a big game & Luke to put out a good all around effort - driving & shooting.


Go Duke!

O. K. Jethro, you're in.

jipops
01-06-2016, 12:50 PM
Yeah, it's been a really weird start to the year. We lost badly to the only truly ranked team on our schedule so far, and we are just 2-2 overall against the top-50 teams in Pomeroy rankings (for whatever those rankings are worth this early in the season). It's really hard to tell how good this team really is at this point. I hope they are really good, but there are definite questions. Winning this game would be a step toward building my confidence in this group.

Even if we are able to squeak out a win tonight, it still may be hard to tell. I don't expect tonight to be easy by any stretch, we'll likely be out-matched in the front court... actually I'd count on that. However, it is very important to pile up as many W's as possible in the front end of this ACC schedule. With games such as @Miami, Louisville, @Pitt, UVA & UNC looming, a number of losses appears probable.

tux
01-06-2016, 01:15 PM
I think Wake will look to test Duke's transition defense tonight by pushing the ball ahead and looking to score before we can set our defense. I recall a lot of run outs in last year's game in WS. Two things Duke's younger teams tend to struggle with: transition D and playing poised from behind. Wake will look to get up early to take Duke out of it's comfort zone and get the crowd into the game...

I personally think this may be a good game to play more zone than man-to-man. Duke is thin and we can't afford to get into foul trouble early. Or, maybe play a more compact man to limit points in the paint and force Wake to work for good shots.

dukebballcamper90-91
01-06-2016, 01:17 PM
I think we win with small ball tonight

ChillinDuke
01-06-2016, 02:01 PM
Many casinos have moved the line to 8. I am sorely tempted to bet on Wake at that number. 8 points is a lot for an ACC road game against a decent opponent who does the exact thing that your team struggles to stop.

-Jason "we should have a thread where a few of us get a mythical $5000 and then we keep track of wagers during the season... anyone else game for this?" Evans

I'm obviously in.

Both mythically and in real life.

- Chillin

hudlow
01-06-2016, 02:12 PM
All in...

My mythical $5000 on Duke straight up tonight.

hud

dukejim1
01-06-2016, 03:04 PM
In the Carrawell on Duncan strategy mode I am sure K will start Matt Jones on Thomas.:):)

bluedev_92
01-06-2016, 03:15 PM
I think we win this one. For those of you that are NCIS fans - call it "my gut" instinct!

Looking for Ingram to have a big game & Luke to put out a good all around effort - driving & shooting.


Go Duke!


O. K. Jethro, you're in.

I knew someone was out there!!

moonpie23
01-06-2016, 03:17 PM
first......do we have enough players to play AT wake? :cool:

also...

put me down for $2000 for duke to win, but not cover....(wake and 7.5? ) or whatever the line is...is the line set?

devildeac
01-06-2016, 03:47 PM
I'll put $1K of OPK's bitcoins on the Deacs and take the points, hoping we can escape with a W from The Joel, even if only by 1-2 points.

mark34
01-06-2016, 03:52 PM
If MP3 can stay out of foul trouble, they will never tear us apart inside. I am still hoping Jeter will be a new sensation sometime this year.

The One Thing we can't withstand is an injury. What You Need to remember, though, is that while it will Mystify me if don't beat these guys, any road win This Time will be tough. Come on Grayson, we Need You Tonight. I can Taste It.

Too much?

mgtr
01-06-2016, 04:03 PM
The One Thing we can't withstand is an injury. What You Need to remember, though, is that while it will Mystify me if don't beat these guys, any road win This Time will be tough. Come on Grayson, we Need You Tonight. I can Taste It.

Too much?

"Why is this word capitalized?"

"Because its important?"

CDu
01-06-2016, 04:06 PM
"Why is this word capitalized?"

"Because its important?"

At first I thought it was some kind of Sidd Finch thing. But I think that thought was wrong.

Troublemaker
01-06-2016, 04:23 PM
The One Thing we can't withstand is an injury. What You Need to remember, though, is that while it will Mystify me if don't beat these guys, any road win This Time will be tough. Come on Grayson, we Need You Tonight. I can Taste It.

Too much?

ASA (A Superfluous Amount)

OldPhiKap
01-06-2016, 04:25 PM
I'll put $1K of OPK's bitcoins on the Deacs and take the points, hoping we can escape with a W from The Joel, even if only by 1-2 points.

Ack! Now I need to go revive that thread and see if I am virtually rich or not!


At first I thought it was some kind of Sidd Finch thing. But I think that thought was wrong.

"One thing's for certain -- Sidd Finch won't be walking thought that door to save our sorry butts"

- Coach K (quoting Lenny Dykstra, I think)

Troublemaker
01-06-2016, 04:35 PM
Me too, although I hate to bet against the spread and for an opponent.

with an eight point spread and a bankroll of $5k, put me down $425 for Wake to cover at home.

LGD!


Can we call ourselves DaftKings?


I'm in. Always down the gambling


Like the idea of the mythical $5,000 game.


I'm obviously in.

Both mythically and in real life.

- Chillin


All in...

My mythical $5000 on Duke straight up tonight.

hud


first...do we have enough players to play AT wake? :cool:

also...

put me down for $2000 for duke to win, but not cover...(wake and 7.5? ) or whatever the line is...is the line set?

Okay, seems like there's some interest.

My first concern about this game would be that it could really suck to administer for Jason (or whoever), and we don't want that.

I would recommend that everyone who plays the game needs to keep track of their own stats and money total by honor code. There should be some sort of master thread where you have to post your bets before gametime, and when the game's over, you update your totals to the thread (e.g. "I am now 5-3 and have $6000"). To reduce clutter, you don't necessarily have to update after every single result, but once every few days it'd be good to remind everyone where you stand.

I'll probably have more thoughts on this game. But that's the first thing that came to mind. It needs to not suck for Jason (or whoever) to administer.

Troublemaker
01-06-2016, 04:42 PM
Anyone remember the Sagarmatha days of DBR when James Armstrong had written code for a pick-against-the-spread game? He didn't give us a bankroll to utilize (which is a nice twist) but rather he just had us make picks against the spread every day.

I was in awe of a poster named "gw67" who always seemed to crush that game.

Pghdukie
01-06-2016, 04:45 PM
Duke wins but does not cover the 8pts. I'm in for $500

whereinthehellami
01-06-2016, 04:50 PM
I was in awe of a poster named "gw67" who always seemed to crush that game.

I remember that guy, wasn't he also a big Maryland guy?

Indoor66
01-06-2016, 04:52 PM
"Why is this word capitalized?"

"Because its important?"

kind of an e e cummings issue?

OldPhiKap
01-06-2016, 05:00 PM
Okay, seems like there's some interest.

My first concern about this game would be that it could really suck to administer for Jason (or whoever), and we don't want that.

I would recommend that everyone who plays the game needs to keep track of their own stats and money total by honor code. There should be some sort of master thread where you have to post your bets before gametime, and when the game's over, you update your totals to the thread (e.g. "I am now 5-3 and have $6000"). To reduce clutter, you don't necessarily have to update after every single result, but once every few days it'd be good to remind everyone where you stand.

I'll probably have more thoughts on this game. But that's the first thing that came to mind. It needs to not suck for Jason (or whoever) to administer.

Good idea.

Anyone who wants in should make their picks and amounts, we can figure out the best format for a separate thread soon (like your idea, not sure if anyone who knows how the internet tubes work has a better/different suggestion)

Devilwin
01-06-2016, 05:04 PM
Quit frettin', people. We win tonight...:cool:

timmy c
01-06-2016, 05:14 PM
Good idea.

Anyone who wants in should make their picks and amounts, we can figure out the best format for a separate thread soon (like your idea, not sure if anyone who knows how the internet tubes work has a better/different suggestion)

I'm 0-0 and i'm taking wake and the 8 points for $5,000!

rasputin
01-06-2016, 05:28 PM
I'm 0-0 and i'm taking wake and the 8 points for $5,000!

I'll take Wake and the 8 points, for 1 K.

BD80
01-06-2016, 05:28 PM
Good idea.

Anyone who wants in should make their picks and amounts, we can figure out the best format for a separate thread soon (like your idea, not sure if anyone who knows how the internet tubes work has a better/different suggestion)

Strange game. The only winning move is not to play.


I'll vigorously volunteer to be the virtual bookie and collect the vig, 10% of all winnings.

OldPhiKap
01-06-2016, 05:32 PM
Strange game. The only winning move is not to play.




Ally Sheedy, is that you?

BD80
01-06-2016, 05:44 PM
Ally Sheedy, is that you?

You can call me Joshua

DukieTiger
01-06-2016, 05:56 PM
Give me Wake and the points for $2000.

mgtr
01-06-2016, 05:59 PM
"Why is this word capitalized?"

"Because its important?"

Ian Howe and a henchman in "National Treasure."

Pghdukie
01-06-2016, 06:04 PM
Is the winner of this off-the-record for amusement only game of chance declared the new Bill Walton national champion?

devildeac
01-06-2016, 06:15 PM
The Devil Inside has me really concerned about this game, especially w/some recent foul fests we've had up there and our current lack of depth. Of course, I may be worried a bit in excess over this.


If MP3 can stay out of foul trouble, they will never tear us apart inside. I am still hoping Jeter will be a new sensation sometime this year.


"Why is this word capitalized?"

"Because its important?"


At first I thought it was some kind of Sidd Finch thing. But I think that thought was wrong.

Follow the clues in the posts above...

;)


Forgot to include this from mark34:

"The One Thing we can't withstand is an injury. What You Need to remember, though, is that while it will Mystify me if don't beat these guys, any road win This Time will be tough. Come on Grayson, we Need You Tonight. I can Taste It.

Too much?"

devildeac
01-06-2016, 06:18 PM
I remember that guy, wasn't he also a big Maryland guy?

He was indeed but with a lot of common sense and no violent tendencies;).

-jk
01-06-2016, 06:39 PM
DBR Chat (http://forums.dukebasketballreport.com/forums/misc.php?do=cchatbox) is open!

If it gets a bit slow, refresh the page. If you're on a mobile device, you'll need to select "Blue" at the bottom.

As always - please follow the DBR Posting Guidelines.

Let's Go Duke!

-jk

riverside6
01-06-2016, 06:47 PM
Live tempo-based stats for Duke/Wake, starters posted...

http://www.scacchoops.com/duke-at-wake-forest-basketball-live-stats-01062016

pfrduke
01-06-2016, 07:33 PM
Too late to take the over?

TKG
01-06-2016, 07:49 PM
Good guys are up 3 at the half; lead by as many as 11. Wake is out rebounding us 20-8!

wavedukefan70s
01-06-2016, 07:55 PM
Humm

uh_no
01-06-2016, 07:58 PM
Good guys are up 3 at the half; lead by as many as 11. Wake is out rebounding us 20-8!

defense is for squares!

CDu
01-06-2016, 08:00 PM
For those who say regular season championships don't matter, probably don't want to hear the "memory lane" segment about Coach K's first championship at Duke... in 1986.

JNort
01-06-2016, 08:07 PM
I'm obviously in.

Both mythically and in real life.

- Chillin

I'd be in...

CDu
01-06-2016, 08:07 PM
For those who say regular season championships don't matter, probably don't want to hear the "memory lane" segment about Coach K's first championship at Duke... in 1986.

And just to be clear, he was talking about the regular season championship, clinched in Cameron. Not the tourney title.

GGLC
01-06-2016, 08:19 PM
Those fourth fouls on Matt and Grayson...

Hmm.

rsvman
01-06-2016, 08:19 PM
both terrible calls

uh_no
01-06-2016, 08:21 PM
both terrible calls

graysons was easily a foul...

wavedukefan70s
01-06-2016, 08:32 PM
Len elmore is one of the most sickening announcers i have ever heard.

GGLC
01-06-2016, 08:35 PM
graysons was easily a foul...

That never gets called; let's be fair.

NashvilleDevil
01-06-2016, 08:35 PM
Len elmore is one of the most sickening announcers i have ever heard.

Mute is your friend.

TKG
01-06-2016, 08:35 PM
Ally Sheedy, is that you?

Hey, I draw the line at disparaging remarks about Ally. She ate Capt'n Crunch drenched in a Pixie Stick - much respect!

uh_no
01-06-2016, 08:37 PM
That never gets called; let's be fair.

he lost his balance and fell into a driving opponent. i thought it was an easy call live.

rsvman
01-06-2016, 08:38 PM
goaltending?

53n206
01-06-2016, 08:38 PM
Refs doing a job on us. How does Elmore keep his position?

GGLC
01-06-2016, 08:41 PM
Elmore so blatantly roots against Duke; it's almost funny.

GGLC
01-06-2016, 08:42 PM
he lost his balance and fell into a driving opponent. i thought it was an easy call live.

I didn't see him lose his balance, but maybe I missed it. There was virtually no contact from what I could tell.

wavedukefan70s
01-06-2016, 08:42 PM
goaltending?

Not to mention the foul before the second bump.

dukelion
01-06-2016, 08:54 PM
Marshall!!!! Dear God!

Bluedevil114
01-06-2016, 08:57 PM
Coach Manning blew their chances by not bringing in Devin Thomas at the five minute mark or taking a timeout at the 4 minute mark. He waited way too long. Very good job by the good guys tonight. Plumlee is player of the game. Loved Luke's play tonight.

bluenorth
01-06-2016, 09:04 PM
I would not want to be any of the referee crew from this game when they sit down to look at the game tape. Too many blown or phantom calls.

Devilwin
01-06-2016, 09:06 PM
Told ya not to fret..Blowout in da Joel!

MarkD83
01-06-2016, 09:07 PM
Two road wins to start ACC play!!! Awesome.

weezie
01-06-2016, 09:07 PM
I would not want to be any of the referee crew from this game when they sit down to look at the game tape. Too many blown or phantom calls.

Like they're going to notice anything!