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hallcity
10-30-2015, 11:55 AM
I came across this report (http://www.goduke.com/fls/4200/web-docs/Equity_in_Athletics_Team_Information_2015.pdf) while looking for something else. This is a 2015 report. I assume it's for the 2014-2015 school year.

For all intercollegiate athletics Duke's total revenues were $91,688,202. Duke's total expenses were $91,174,723.

Duke's total expenses for men's basketball was $19,860,851, for women's basketball $5,511,458 and for football $22,915,934.

Duke's total revenue for men's basketball was $33,772,145, for women's basketball $3,194,313 and for football $32,407,399.

The report says this includes contributions. These were somehow allocated among the sports. It's impossible to separate out how much the contributions were in total.

The average salary for all head coaches at Duke was $955,804. For women's head coaches, the average was $183,876. However, if you take out men's basketball and football the average salary for men's head coaches was $109,483. If my math is correct, Duke is paying its men's head coaches a total of $10,513,844. The total for men's n sports other than basketball and football was $989,487. Doublecheck my math but I think that means that Duke is paying a combined $9,524,357 in salary to Coach K and Coach Cut.

Also, Duke is paying an average salary for all 31 men's assistant coaches of $148,000 for a total of $4,588,000. However, if you take out men's basketball and football, the average for an assistant coach is $47,725. There are a total of 19 men's coaches in sports other than men's basketball and football so they're being paid a total of $901,075, leaving $3,686,925 divided between the 12 men's basketball and football assistant coaches, for an average of $307,243.75 per assistant coach in men's basketball and football.

It would be interesting to compare Duke's Equity In Athletics report to those of other schools. I don't think Duke would have posted this if it didn't have to.

uh_no
10-30-2015, 12:01 PM
I came across this report (http://www.goduke.com/fls/4200/web-docs/Equity_in_Athletics_Team_Information_2015.pdf) while looking for something else. This is a 2015 report. I assume it's for the 2014-2015 school year.

For all intercollegiate athletics Duke's total revenues were $91,688,202. Duke's total expenses were $91,174,723.

Duke's total expenses for men's basketball was $19,860,851, for women's basketball $5,511,458 and for football $22,915,934.

Duke's total revenue for men's basketball was $33,772,145, for women's basketball $3,194,313 and for football $32,407,399.

The report says this includes contributions. These were somehow allocated among the sports. It's impossible to separate out how much the contributions were in total.

The average salary for all head coaches at Duke was $955,804. For women's head coaches, the average was $183,876. However, if you take out men's basketball and football the average salary for men's head coaches was $109,483. If my math is correct, Duke is paying its men's head coaches a total of $10,513,844. The total for men's n sports other than basketball and football was $989,487. Doublecheck my math but I think that means that Duke is paying a combined $9,524,357 in salary to Coach K and Coach Cut.

Also, Duke is paying an average salary for all 31 men's assistant coaches of $148,000 for a total of $4,588,000. However, if you take out men's basketball and football, the average for an assistant coach is $47,725. There are a total of 19 men's coaches in sports other than men's basketball and football so they're being paid a total of $901,075, leaving $3,686,925 divided between the 12 men's basketball and football assistant coaches, for an average of $307,243.75 per assistant coach in men's basketball and football.

It would be interesting to compare Duke's Equity In Athletics report to those of other schools. I don't think Duke would have posted this if it didn't have to.

did the revenue include the university stipend?

Listen to Quants
10-30-2015, 12:09 PM
did the revenue include the university stipend?

lol. I think of the athletic scholarships as an expense of the athletic programs. I'd be interested in seeing which side those scholarship dollars sit on.

uh_no
10-30-2015, 12:10 PM
lol. I think of the athletic scholarships as an expense of the athletic programs. I'd be interested in seeing which side those scholarship dollars sit on.

no no...i mean the money that the university gives the athletics department every year...which is a major contention among faculty.

sagegrouse
10-30-2015, 12:32 PM
no no...i mean the money that the university gives the athletics department every year...which is a major contention among faculty.

The fact that revenues and expenses almost exactly balanced suggests that both included all relevant items, including the University stipend.

I attended a presentation recently by Kevin White, who made a number of points:

The top 20 schools in income, headed by Texas and Alabama, can pay for about anything they want. The next 40 schools, "which may include Duke," are having to struggle and use all of their ingenuity and resources to compete at a major level in intercollegiate athletics. But they will probably succeed. The next 40 are having an even harder time, but they will work very to succeed because every school wants a major college athletic program.

His second point was about the "general misunderstanding" of the NCAA. "The NCAA," he said, "was created by the schools to enforce the rules the schools decided to create." In his view, "blaming the NCAA" for anything is sorta silly, given that it's the schools that have created the system.

hallcity
10-30-2015, 03:25 PM
Duke's 2015 revenues would have ranked 27 on the 2014 list (http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances), ahead of UNC.

The fact that revenues and expenses almost exactly balanced suggests that both included all relevant items, including the University stipend.

I attended a presentation recently by Kevin White, who made a number of points:

The top 20 schools in income, headed by Texas and Alabama, can pay for about anything they want. The next 40 schools, "which may include Duke," are having to struggle and use all of their ingenuity and resources to compete at a major level in intercollegiate athletics. But they will probably succeed. The next 40 are having an even harder time, but they will work very to succeed because every school wants a major college athletic program.

His second point was about the "general misunderstanding" of the NCAA. "The NCAA," he said, "was created by the schools to enforce the rules the schools decided to create." In his view, "blaming the NCAA" for anything is sorta silly, given that it's the schools that have created the system.