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hurleyfor3
03-06-2015, 10:38 PM
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=400591302

To make the NCAA Tournament, Harvard now needs to beat always-tough Brown on Saturday, then hope Yale falls to two-time national runner up Dartmouth, and then win the tiebreaker game.


The student section at the sold-out Lavietes Pavillion broke into a "Safety School!" chant before the opening tip.

Hey! They stole that from us!

Orange&BlackSheep
03-07-2015, 07:17 PM
Yale battling Harvard for the Ivy Title. Just horrible. And it probably means that Tommy is not going to get hired away. Tough to take ... tough to take.

P.S. And to whomever it was that negative sporked me for "speaking ill" of one of Duke's favorite sons ...

(1) I still have the scrapbook of all the USA Today articles from the 85-86 season which Amaker featured prominently in. I lived and died with his every move from 83-87.
(2) It is not my fault he chose to associate with evil.

O&BSheep

Olympic Fan
03-07-2015, 08:05 PM
Harvard not dead yet.

Harvard beat Brown tonight ... Yale is up one at the half at Dartmouth.

If Dartmouth can win, then Yale and Harvard have a one-game playoff for the NCAA berth.

Kfanarmy
03-07-2015, 09:05 PM
Dartmouth takes it...Harvard Yale playoff...

Olympic Fan
03-07-2015, 09:07 PM
Unbelievable!

Yale makes a FT with 2.0 seconds left to go up one ... Dartmouth hits a layup at the buzzer to win 59-58.

That leaves Harvard and Yale tied for the Ivy title. A one-game playoff will determine the Ivy representative to the NCAA.

gumbomoop
03-07-2015, 09:07 PM
Dartmouth takes it...Harvard Yale playoff...

Last second layup. SportsCenter later, surely.

burnspbesq
03-07-2015, 11:30 PM
If you're not in Greensboro next Saturday for the ACC championship game, you want to be at the Palestra for the Harvard-Yale playoff.

Orange&BlackSheep
03-08-2015, 08:46 PM
If you're not in Greensboro next Saturday for the ACC championship game, you want to be at the Palestra for the Harvard-Yale playoff.

Great venue so long as you are not there to watch Penn tip-in a missed free throw to win the game and then be heckled by the Ivy League's equivalent of State fans as you leave ... not that that ever happened to me. (Still pissed (http://articles.philly.com/1990-02-07/sports/25880402_1_penn-coach-fran-dunphy-hassan-duncombe-princeton))

And why would anyone want to subject himself to the indignity of Harvard v. Yale if he had a choice in the matter? I mean, you would have to skip the thrilling 76er vs Brooklyn nets game as well as the "Shamrock Stroll". Let's stay focused on the ACC tourney and pretend this event of interlopers never happened. My $.02

O&BSheep

TKG
03-09-2015, 08:38 AM
Great venue so long as you are not there to watch Penn tip-in a missed free throw to win the game and then be heckled by the Ivy League's equivalent of State fans as you leave ... not that that ever happened to me. (Still pissed (http://articles.philly.com/1990-02-07/sports/25880402_1_penn-coach-fran-dunphy-hassan-duncombe-princeton))

And why would anyone want to subject himself to the indignity of Harvard v. Yale if he had a choice in the matter? I mean, you would have to skip the thrilling 76er vs Brooklyn nets game as well as the "Shamrock Stroll". Let's stay focused on the ACC tourney and pretend this event of interlopers never happened. My $.02

O&BSheep

Interested why the game is being played in Philly.....

budwom
03-09-2015, 08:47 AM
Interested why the game is being played in Philly.....

Training meal of several cheesesteaks is not doubt the reason.

OldPhiKap
03-09-2015, 09:14 AM
Interested why the game is being played in Philly.....

The Palestra is the Cathedral of College Basketball (in the Northeast, at least). Penn plays home games there IIRC. So, a neutral conference site with lots of history.

I would be there if I lived within an hour's drive, should be a great atmosphere and fun game.

TKG
03-09-2015, 09:25 AM
The Palestra is the Cathedral of College Basketball (in the Northeast, at least). Penn plays home games there IIRC. So, a neutral conference site with lots of history.

I would be there if I lived within an hour's drive, should be a great atmosphere and fun game.

I think it was 1985-86 season Duke played St.Joe's at the Palestra and I was in attendance. What a great gym. There was a guy sitting a couple of rows in front of me who kept calling Amaker, "Tony". Drove me to distraction until I took the program circled Amaker's full name and haned it to the guy at halftime.

Love the Palestra.

duke79
03-09-2015, 11:13 AM
I've watched the end of this game a few times on ESPN and I still can't believe Yale lost it. Obviously not completely impossible, but how many teams score a basket, from the entire length of the court, with 2.1 seconds left? Less than 5% or 2%? The Yale coach and players have to be sick. If not for the Duke connection with Harvard with Tommy A, I would be rooting for Yale to win this game, just for redemption's sake.

Turk
03-09-2015, 11:51 AM
Great venue so long as you are not there to watch Penn tip-in a missed free throw to win the game and then be heckled by the Ivy League's equivalent of State fans as you leave ... not that that ever happened to me. (Still pissed (http://articles.philly.com/1990-02-07/sports/25880402_1_penn-coach-fran-dunphy-hassan-duncombe-princeton))



Wow, forgot about that one. That was the first game I saw in the Palestra; I didn't have a dog in the fight and was just looking to see a game after work. What a game. P.S. I wonder what all the talking heads would say about changing the rules and shortening the shot clock if Pete Carrill was still coaching.

Tom B.
03-09-2015, 12:23 PM
Obviously not completely impossible, but how many teams score a basket, from the entire length of the court, with 2.1 seconds left?




I can think of one. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3_IT622Sbc)

Orange&BlackSheep
03-09-2015, 05:36 PM
I think it was 1985-86 season Duke played St.Joe's at the Palestra and I was in attendance. What a great gym. There was a guy sitting a couple of rows in front of me who kept calling Amaker, "Tony". Drove me to distraction until I took the program circled Amaker's full name and handed it to the guy at halftime.

Love the Palestra.

I WAS AT THAT ST. JOE's GAME TOO! My Dad took my brothers and I down. I think he scored tickets as an alum somehow or other (this was before being a Duke fan had cache). We had seats basically on the floor behind one of the baskets in a Duke section. I could not believe how big Bilas and Alarie were.

The Ivy League generally makes the teams play on another Ivy school's neutral court. Princeton beat Harvard at Yale's high school gym the last time there was a playoff. Penn and Princeton played at Lehigh's gym (Stabler Arena) in 1996. The Harvard/Yale game was sold out almost as soon as tickets went on sale so proximity to the Palestra will not help one get a ticket (unless there is scalping action -- zero tickets on stubhub at the moment).

I know it would be wrong to wish for a neutron bomb explosion in the Palestra that evening, so I will not.

O&BSheep

Orange&BlackSheep
03-09-2015, 05:37 PM
Wow, forgot about that one. That was the first game I saw in the Palestra; I didn't have a dog in the fight and was just looking to see a game after work. What a game. P.S. I wonder what all the talking heads would say about changing the rules and shortening the shot clock if Pete Carrill was still coaching.

The funny thing I noticed is that ESPN's Jayson Stark was the Philly Inquirer reporter who wrote that article I linked to on that game. He must have been the low man on the sports beat totem pole at that moment.

sagegrouse
03-09-2015, 06:59 PM
I can think of one. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3_IT622Sbc)

Also, UConn against Clemson in the regional semis in 1990. The time remaining was like 0.9.

Of course, the Huskies got their comeuppance two days later on the "Special" play where Laettner made the game winner at the buzzer to send Duke to the Final Four in Denver.

hurleyfor3
03-09-2015, 09:29 PM
The Harvard/Yale game was sold out almost as soon as tickets went on sale so proximity to the Palestra will not help one get a ticket (unless there is scalping action -- zero tickets on stubhub at the moment).

Scalping H/Y basketball tickets... I find this hilarious.

Time and teevee have been set (http://www.ivyleague.com/sports/mbkb/2014-15/releases/2015_Mens_Basketball_Playoff). 1600 EDT on espn3. Note the date on the press release. Of course the Ivies are better than us; they live in the future! And it all goes down on Pi Day. Now it makes sense.

RPS
03-10-2015, 10:02 AM
I can think of one. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3_IT622Sbc)

The video doesn't show the pass at :02 from the baseline to Chip Engellend at midcourt (who calls timeout at :01), but here is another (http://youtu.be/aV1B2Bp0EIg).


http://youtu.be/aV1B2Bp0EIg

Coach K's first season. We could make the pass to midcourt and call timeout only because Dean Smith called timeout "to set the defense," which allowed us to save our final timeout.

duke79
03-10-2015, 10:03 AM
I can think of one. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3_IT622Sbc)

Yea, obviously not impossible but I wonder, on a statistical basis, out of 100 attempts, how often a team goes the entire length of the court and scores with less than 2 or 3 seconds on the clock? Maybe 5 times out of a 100? I don't know but it can't be many.

Tom B.
03-10-2015, 03:55 PM
Also, UConn against Clemson in the regional semis in 1990. The time remaining was like 0.9.




Actually it was exactly 1.0, and UConn needed every bit of that full second. Tate George got the shot off with like 1/100th of a second remaining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=_6MvD7aK_bI#t=5042

Two crazy things about that game:

(1) Clemson had been way down in that game -- 19 points, I think -- but came back and took the lead (their only lead of the game, IIRC) on a three-pointer by David Young with 11 seconds left, only to have their hearts ripped out.

(2) Had Clemson hung on to win, they'd have faced Duke in the next round with a trip to the Final Four on the line. And Clemson had actually beaten Duke in their most recent matchup (http://goduke.statsgeek.com/basketball-m/games/boxscore.php?gameid=19900228) a few weeks earlier in Littlejohn.