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MChambers
12-08-2014, 02:26 PM
Only one more week of waiting until the Devils play again. I know, it's Elon, which usually hasn't been a big challenge (losing last year 86-48), but this year's Phoenix took Northwestern to overtime in Evanston before falling. Moreover, in Pomeroy, Elon (at 261)is one spot ahead on NJIT, so an upset is possible.

Elon apparently plays an uptempo game, being ranked 51st in Pomeroy for tempo.

Henderson
12-08-2014, 02:40 PM
What does one say? Tempted to say what I think, but that seems imprudent and maybe even dangerous.

AncientPsychicT
12-08-2014, 02:43 PM
Elon apparently plays an uptempo game, being ranked 51st in Pomeroy for tempo.

Good. I'm delaying my flight home to can stick around for this game, so it'll be great if it turns out to be a fast-paced, fun affair instead of a slow drag.

DukieInBrasil
12-08-2014, 02:45 PM
I'm looking forward to vigorous post-game discussion about how Grayson Allen is a sure-fire lottery pick, as are Matt Jones and Sulaimon, due to excellent production from all 3 off the bench. As well as how the Elon game mos def shows that Semi and MP3 have what it takes to play in the NBA. Nary a word will be said about the NBA prospects of Quinn and Amile.
It's still a week away? Sheesh, finals, c'mon and be over already!!!

Ichabod Drain
12-08-2014, 02:49 PM
Only one more week of waiting until the Devils play again. I know, it's Elon, which usually hasn't been a big challenge (losing last year 86-48), but this year's Phoenix took Northwestern to overtime in Evanston before falling. Moreover, in Pomeroy, Elon (at 261)is one spot ahead on NJIT, so an upset is possible.

Elon apparently plays an uptempo game, being ranked 51st in Pomeroy for tempo.

True, but you didn't mention that we are 35 spots ahead of Michigan according to Kenpom.

MChambers
12-08-2014, 02:55 PM
True, but you didn't mention that we are 35 spots ahead of Michigan according to Kenpom.
I bet Coach K won't mention that to the team, either.

Don't want DBR posters to become complacent. :p

Saratoga2
12-08-2014, 04:33 PM
Coach K seems to schedule a lighter game when returning from a period off (I assume it is to allow the student to take their exams). Not a bad idea and they will soon face UCONN which is more of a threat. The Elon game will allow the team to work on communication and will get Semi and Grayson some additional experience. We may need Semi along the way so it is good that he can get some game experience in these easier games.

brevity
12-08-2014, 05:27 PM
It's still a week away? Sheesh, finals, c'mon and be over already!!!

Look, you can't just wish for the academic stuff to go away. This isn't UNC.

Native
12-08-2014, 10:36 PM
Look, you can't just wish for the academic stuff to go away. This isn't UNC.

We can wish — it just won't do anything.

Ugh. Finals.

Olympic Fan
12-12-2014, 08:48 PM
Did anybody else watch Elon at Missouri Thursday night?

I realize Missouri is not a ranked team, but Elon was impressive even in defeat. Missouri won 78-73, but it was a one-point game with 26 seconds left. After Missouri hit a couple of free throws to go up three, Elon had a 3-pointer to tie with about 12 seconds left.

Not saying Elon is a threat to win in Cameron Monday night. but they might be better competition than the rankings would suggest.

Bluegrassdevil1
12-12-2014, 09:18 PM
Did anybody else watch Elon at Missouri Thursday night?

I realize Missouri is not a ranked team, but Elon was impressive even in defeat. Missouri won 78-73, but it was a one-point game with 26 seconds left. After Missouri hit a couple of free throws to go up three, Elon had a 3-pointer to tie with about 12 seconds left.

Not saying Elon is a threat to win in Cameron Monday night. but they might be better competition than the rankings would suggest.

I am not wholly disagreeing with the scenario you raised (Duke could be quite rusty), but Missouri is awful. Not bad. AWFUL. The Tigers have already gone down four times, and watching them against Arizona and Purdue, one was not left with the impression that Mizzou is going anywhere other than the CBI.

I hope Elon gives the good guys a bit of exercise on Monday, but it will not be a result of the Phoenix going nose to nose with the boys from Columbia.

mgtr
12-13-2014, 03:59 AM
Many don't realize that Elon was founded by a Christmas wrapping paper magnate named Leon Noel. When he named the school, he decided to continue the anagram, and came up with Elon in preference to Lone. :D

jv001
12-13-2014, 09:58 AM
I have a fondness for Elon. One of my best friends(Leroy Myers), was a great athlete that attended Elon College way back when. He played basketball, baseball and was the number one golfer on the Elon golf team. He set a record at little Mayodan High School with 56 points in one game his senior year. Quite an accomplishment for a 5'9" guard. Leroy passed away at the young age of 64. The week end before he passed away he shot 65 at Pilot Knob Golf Club. He taught me a lot about golf and I sure do miss him. Mr. Dalton McMichael donated millions of dollars to Elon College over the years. McMichael High School is named after this great man. Like I say, Elon has a special spot in my heart, but I still want Duke to beat them comfortably. GoDuke!

jv001
12-13-2014, 10:58 AM
I have a fondness for Elon. One of my best friends(Leroy Myers), was a great athlete that attended Elon College way back when. He played basketball, baseball and was the number one golfer on the Elon golf team. He set a record at little Mayodan High School with 56 points in one game his senior year. Quite an accomplishment for a 5'9" guard. Leroy passed away at the young age of 64. The week end before he passed away he shot 65 at Pilot Knob Golf Club. He taught me a lot about golf and I sure do miss him. Mr. Dalton McMichael donated millions of dollars to Elon College over the years. McMichael High School is named after this great man. Like I say, Elon has a special spot in my heart, but I still want Duke to beat them comfortably. GoDuke!

I put my friends age at time of passing at 65 when he was only 57. Too young for such a wonderful athlete that never smoked, did drugs or used alcohol. Life is but a vapor. GoDuke!

uh_no
12-13-2014, 01:37 PM
Not saying Elon is a threat to win in Cameron Monday night. but they might be better competition than the rankings would suggest.

I will be very surprised if they are good competition....and if it is, something will have gone very wrong for duke.

DBR somehow always finds a way to make every opponent seem like a world beater....which is great in the name of not looking over anyone....but in reality, this game ought not be competitive....if you take out the non D1 games, Elon is 3-4 with the wins coming by a combined 7 points over florida atlantic, morgantown, and miami-ohio. Yes they played missouri and northwestern close.....but they are ranked 132 and 149 respectively....I.E. they are not good either.

Elon is 254 kenpom and Duke is projected to win 90-60 with a 99% chance of winning....basically you can't get a more sure win.

If this game proves to be even marginally close, I'll be the first one to give you props.

JBDuke
12-15-2014, 07:40 AM
Bumping this back up. Happy to have basketball back tonight! These long December breaks can be agonizing...

flyingdutchdevil
12-15-2014, 09:50 AM
Bumping this back up. Happy to have basketball back tonight! These long December breaks can be agonizing...

Thanks JB. Looking forward to seeing Duke get back on the court after a grueling finals period (I wonder if they're camped out in the stacks like I usually did for finals).

This game won't be pretty. I expect Duke to win by 20+ and have an easy game. But, like most teams after a long break, there will be an adjustment period in the first 10 minutes or so. I'm expecting a few silly turnovers and easy buckets by the opponent, followed by Coach K calling a timeout and screaming at his players.

DevilWearsPrada
12-15-2014, 01:00 PM
Game Day! Game Face!

Let's Go Duke! Beat the Fighting Christians of Elon! (always to me) The Elon Phoenix! Go Duke!

Ichabod Drain
12-15-2014, 01:17 PM
Great googly moogly I'm ready to watch some Duke basketball tonight. This gap was killer and there's another one coming up after UConn.

Bob Green
12-15-2014, 05:40 PM
Duke is favored by 32 points with the over/under set at 150. Duke 91, Elon 59. I'm really ready to watch some basketball tonight!

Henderson
12-15-2014, 06:07 PM
Ah crap, I've got friends from out of town who want to catch Monday Night Football at a high end strip club. Guess I'll see Duke on replay.

I'm getting too old for this... Monday Night Football crap. Is Howard Cossell on?

Pass me another slice of dry toast, wipe the spittle from my chin, and turn up my hearing aid.

-jk
12-15-2014, 06:22 PM
Ah crap, I've got friends from out of town who want to catch Monday Night Football at a high end strip club. Guess I'll see Duke on replay.

I'm getting too old for this... Monday Night Football crap. Is Howard Cossell on?

Pass me another slice of dry toast, wipe the spittle from my chin, and turn up my hearing aid.

C'mon: Say "Be right back." And go. Then be back. (Just how old are your "friends"?)

-jk

riverside6
12-15-2014, 06:45 PM
Live tempo-based stats for Duke/Elon, starters posted...

http://www.scacchoops.com/elon-at-duke-basketball-live-stats-12152014

Henderson
12-15-2014, 06:51 PM
C'mon: Say "Be right back." And go. Then be back. (Just how old are your "friends"?)

-jk

Not as young as they think they are. I'll find me some Duke.

OldPhiKap
12-15-2014, 06:56 PM
Ah crap, I've got friends from out of town who want to catch Monday Night Football at a high end strip club. Guess I'll see Duke on replay.

I'm getting too old for this... Monday Night Football crap. Is Howard Cossell on?

Pass me another slice of dry toast, wipe the spittle from my chin, and turn up my hearing aid.


C'mon: Say "Be right back." And go. Then be back. (Just how old are your "friends"?)

-jk


Not as young as they think they are. I'll find me some Duke.

If your friends are going to a strip club and worried about what is on television, well -- they qualify as old.

weezie
12-15-2014, 07:20 PM
Is chat open? Once again the ol'tablet giving me fits

DukeHLM'13
12-15-2014, 07:23 PM
Is chat open? Once again the ol'tablet giving me fits

I don't think that it is...at least not that I can find

weezie
12-15-2014, 07:24 PM
Shocked! Shocked am I!

mattman91
12-15-2014, 07:34 PM
following Gamecast and noticed Matt Jones hasn't played...

Cue the Matt Jones Transfer Vigil :rolleyes:

weezie
12-15-2014, 07:34 PM
Henderson: Ah crap, I've got friends from out of town who want to catch Monday Night Football at a high end strip club...


Should we be relieved that it's not a low end strip club? :eek:

mattman91
12-15-2014, 07:36 PM
Ah crap, I've got friends from out of town who want to catch Monday Night Football at a high end strip club. Guess I'll see Duke on replay.

I'm getting too old for this... Monday Night Football crap. Is Howard Cossell on?

Pass me another slice of dry toast, wipe the spittle from my chin, and turn up my hearing aid.

Don't forget to tip your cocktail waitress!

DU82
12-15-2014, 07:49 PM
following Gamecast and noticed Matt Jones hasn't played...

Cue the Matt Jones Transfer Vigil :rolleyes:

Don't trust Gamecast.

Duke3517
12-15-2014, 07:52 PM
Don't forget to tip your cocktail waitress!

Okafor is an outstanding basketball player.

I don't think Duke will run the table but it is really looking like they will only have 2-3 losses this year. The defensive pressure is outstanding, they rebound real well, guard play in terms of driving to the hoop or moving the ball around the court is second to none, and they are deep. I think the only thing they need to improve on is more consistent 3 point shooting and free throw shooting.

-jk
12-15-2014, 07:56 PM
Is chat open? Once again the ol'tablet giving me fits

It should be. I've closed and reopened it. Try it now.

-jk

lotusland
12-15-2014, 07:57 PM
Elon has been outclassed but we've had some periods with lapses in the half-court defense. I gues it's to be expected with the layoff and level of competition. Sheed and Winslow seem dialed in. I don't like the lineups without either Amile or Winslow at 4 - Too much passing around the horn.

Dev11
12-15-2014, 07:59 PM
It should be. I've closed and reopened it. Try it now.

-jk

Still not showing up for me, and I closed and reopened my browser.

subzero02
12-15-2014, 08:00 PM
Great updates!!!

dukelifer
12-15-2014, 08:12 PM
Elon has been outclassed but we've had some periods with lapses in the half-court defense. I gues it's to be expected with the layoff and level of competition. Sheed and Winslow seem dialed in. I don't like the lineups without either Amile or Winslow at 4 - Too much passing around the horn.

Duke needs to hit free throws- big weakness for the big guys on this team.

lotusland
12-15-2014, 08:15 PM
Duke needs to hit free throws- big weakness for the big guys on this team.

MP3 excluded this year

Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
12-15-2014, 08:15 PM
This is Jah night.

Offense going through him every play. Love it.

lotusland
12-15-2014, 08:25 PM
last five or so possessions were UGLY on both ends for the Devils

Duke3517
12-15-2014, 08:28 PM
I feel like Duke is toying with them

Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
12-15-2014, 08:28 PM
Jah opens things up so much more for Amile. He is so much more natural at the 4 on both ends.

lotusland
12-15-2014, 08:30 PM
tough night for M Jones

Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
12-15-2014, 08:33 PM
Amile, MP3, and Jah - our bigs have shown up tonight. I will also give Sheed a little love. Not a lot coming from the top, but we don't need it tonight.

Winslow is getting frustrated, and Matt Jones probably wishes he stayed in bed today.

53n206
12-15-2014, 08:40 PM
Winslow with 4 fouls. This is where an inside game of Semi's would help. But....

Duvall
12-15-2014, 08:41 PM
Winslow with 4 fouls. This is where an inside game of Semi's would help. But....

...but Ojeleye didn't have an inside game.

Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
12-15-2014, 08:44 PM
...but Ojeleye didn't have an inside game.

But he had big shoulders... are you sure,

arnie
12-15-2014, 08:47 PM
Amile, MP3, and Jah - our bigs have shown up tonight. I will also give Sheed a little love. Not a lot coming from the top, but we don't need it tonight.

Winslow is getting frustrated, and Matt Jones probably wishes he stayed in bed today.

Not sure I'd give Sheed that much love tonight. It's really been all Okafor with Amile receiving free gifts. Got to focus on FT line.

Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
12-15-2014, 08:48 PM
Not sure I'd give Sheed that much love tonight. It's really been all Okafor with Amile receiving free gifts. Got to focus on FT line.

Free throws are scary

Duke3517
12-15-2014, 08:49 PM
Punk move by Sulaimon

Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
12-15-2014, 08:50 PM
Punk move by Sulaimon

Looked tangled to me

Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
12-15-2014, 08:51 PM
Like Jah immediately separating Sheed

Duke3517
12-15-2014, 08:52 PM
He didn't need to push him down. Looks like Elon frustrated Duke tonight.

Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
12-15-2014, 08:53 PM
K is fired up

gurufrisbee
12-15-2014, 08:53 PM
Horrible call. You can't grab a guy's arm and try to take him down with it and expect him not to try to push you off. Flagrant should have been on the little b*tch from Elon.

gurufrisbee
12-15-2014, 08:55 PM
And straight up hitting a guy in a face is just a regular foul? Are you kidding?

Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
12-15-2014, 08:56 PM
Let's get out of this game before something regrettable happens

devildeac
12-15-2014, 08:56 PM
Horrible call. You can't grab a guy's arm and try to take him down with it and expect him not to try to push you off. Flagrant should have been on the little b*tch from Elon.


And straight up hitting a guy in a face is just a regular foul? Are you kidding?

With karl hess, nothing is impossible

Duvall
12-15-2014, 08:57 PM
I guess that counts as a win.

devildeac
12-15-2014, 08:58 PM
Let's get out of this game before something regrettable happens

hess and his incompetent crew let this one get out of hand by letting us get mugged repeatedly with few calls.

Duke3517
12-15-2014, 08:58 PM
Let's get out of this game before something regrettable happens

We all agree with that. No need for that against 5-5 Elon.

Duvall
12-15-2014, 08:58 PM
With karl hess, nothing is impossible

He's not in the building, so.

gurufrisbee
12-15-2014, 09:00 PM
That eddy kid is sure top of the "absolutely no class" list. First the crap move on Sheed and then he's hacking Tyus with three seconds left. What a douche.

DukeDiva
12-15-2014, 09:04 PM
Like Jah immediately separating Sheed

Yes Jah did a good job of stepping in and separating Eddy and Sheed. Sheed needs to keep a cool head, but I wouldn't call it a punk move. Eddy had his arm, then Eddy came after him after Sheed got annoyed and threw him down.

dukelifer
12-15-2014, 09:04 PM
Punk move by Sulaimon

Look like his arm was going to get twisted badly. He was trying to get Eddy off him or to let go- and pushed his head.

DukeDevil
12-15-2014, 09:05 PM
That eddy kid is sure top of the "absolutely no class" list. First the crap move on Sheed and then he's hacking Tyus with three seconds left. What a douche.

I noticed that too. I get wanting to play hard to the end but 3 seconds left, let them inbound it and just end it, don't start swiping at people, that's ignorant. I'm guessing he was hoping to pad his stats.

Punk.

lotusland
12-15-2014, 09:09 PM
Yes Jah did a good job of stepping in and separating Eddy and Sheed. Sheed needs to keep a cool head, but I wouldn't call it a punk move. Eddy had his arm, then Eddy came after him after Sheed got annoyed and threw him down. Sheed lost his cool but he regained his composure and did not let it escalate even though 5 Elon guys were trying to get in his face. Not his finest moment but I think most of us have reacted poorly before.

Duvall
12-15-2014, 09:09 PM
Krzyzewski: "Not an acceptable performance."

Duke3517
12-15-2014, 09:09 PM
Look like his arm was going to get twisted badly. He was trying to get Eddy off him or to let go- and pushed his head.

I'm not saying Eddy is an angel but Sheed could of handled that better.

DukeFanSince1990
12-15-2014, 09:10 PM
Look like his arm was going to get twisted badly. He was trying to get Eddy off him or to let go- and pushed his head.

yep, that could have been a hyper extension with just a little more force......

oldnavy
12-15-2014, 09:13 PM
I'm not saying Eddy is an angel but Sheed could of handled that better.

How?

mr. synellinden
12-15-2014, 09:18 PM
Krzyzewski: "Not an acceptable performance."

In what respect - what else did he say about the game?

johnb
12-15-2014, 09:22 PM
Strikes me that Sheed's behavior was fine--their player could have injured our guy, and Sheed showed restraint.

Elon played punk on multiple occasions, and the refs lost control. I guess Elon can call it a moral victory, but I'll ignore all of their effort and talent and sum them up as cheap and dirty.And I blame it on their coach.

roywhite
12-15-2014, 09:24 PM
I guess that counts as a win.

Count it as a loss on your tally if that makes you happy.

I'll call it a win.

53n206
12-15-2014, 09:25 PM
When took so much time making decision on the terrible call against Sheed I thought the refs might be discussing possible suspension effect on Duke vs UConn.