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hurleyfor3
03-15-2014, 05:39 PM
Hey, we made it here.

pfrduke
03-15-2014, 05:42 PM
We're due for a really good game. I'd like to have it tomorrow.

Bob Green
03-15-2014, 05:45 PM
We're due for a really good game. I'd like to have it tomorrow.

We will need it against Virginia. They are a very talented, well coached team. Fortunately, so are we!

Henderson
03-15-2014, 05:49 PM
Ah, a sunny Sunday in March, 78 degrees forecast, and Duke is playing for the ACC Championship. Plus the game is at 10 am my time.

I like tomorrow already, and it's only today.

NYBri
03-15-2014, 05:53 PM
Ah, a sunny Sunday in March, 78 degrees forecast, and Duke is playing for the ACC Championship. Plus the game is at 10 am my time.

I like tomorrow already, and it's only today.

Nice.

chaosmage
03-15-2014, 05:54 PM
Ah, a sunny Sunday in March, 78 degrees forecast, and Duke is playing for the ACC Championship. Plus the game is at 10 am my time.

I like tomorrow already, and it's only today.

What part of Cali are you in? :-P 10 AM?? Means I gotta get breakfast done early!

Henderson
03-15-2014, 05:55 PM
Just checked the Chapel Hill weather for tomorrow: 53F and rainy all day with 100% chance of not playing.

BlueDevilBrowns
03-15-2014, 06:00 PM
Hey, we made it here.

You can never underestimate the value in playing for a Championship, regardless whether it results in a win or loss.

Our team is still relatively young so experiencing tomorrow will be huge for NCAAT play.

I wonder if Nike made Throwback jerseys in Royal Blue?

Troublemaker
03-15-2014, 06:14 PM
We're due for a really good game. I'd like to have it tomorrow.

Yeah, we certainly haven't played like an ACC Champion yet in this tournament, but regardless, tomorrow we're in the Championship Game. Just need to have that one great performance at the right time. What's funny is I'm pretty sure the sportsbooks will have Duke as the favorite tomorrow, especially since we were the favorite pre-tourney. I don't believe we should be favored over UVA myself, but hopefully the books' computers prove to be accurate tomorrow.

pfrduke
03-15-2014, 06:17 PM
Yeah, we certainly haven't played like an ACC Champion yet in this tournament, but regardless, tomorrow we're in the Championship Game. Just need to have that one great performance at the right time. What's funny is I'm pretty sure the sportsbooks will have Duke as the favorite tomorrow, especially since we were the favorite pre-tourney. I don't believe we should be favored over UVA myself, but hopefully the books' computers prove to be accurate tomorrow.

Shouldn't be more than 2-3 points in either direction, regardless.

Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
03-15-2014, 06:18 PM
Ah, a sunny Sunday in March, 78 degrees forecast, and Duke is playing for the ACC Championship. Plus the game is at 10 am my time.

I like tomorrow already, and it's only today.

Here in NC the forecast for tomorrow is 46 and rain. Also, perfect weather for a Duke championship.

Gotta bring it tomorrow, for sure.

Joseph
03-15-2014, 06:21 PM
Shouldn't be more than 2-3 points in either direction, regardless.

We score 70. We WIN

MCFinARL
03-15-2014, 06:42 PM
Hope a couple of people can hit 3s tomorrow. That may be important against the Pack Line. Today, that was Cook.

dukelifer
03-15-2014, 07:09 PM
You can never underestimate the value in playing for a Championship, regardless whether it results in a win or loss.

Our team is still relatively young so experiencing tomorrow will be huge for NCAAT play.

I wonder if Nike made Throwback jerseys in Royal Blue?

I agree - getting to this game is important. This team has grown already. Another game will help that rhythm. But a win tomorrow gives them a championship. That will be even a bigger step. If you are going to play- you might as well give it your all. This was not a physical game - so they should be good for tomorrow - but the second half will be a war.

CLW
03-15-2014, 07:23 PM
I'm concerned about fatigue for tomorrow 3rd game in 3 days and we basically only played 6 guys today. Perhaps K is/was saving Dawkins and Plumlee for tomorrow?

CR9
03-15-2014, 07:23 PM
Gotta make free throws. They'll kill you in a game like this. 11 misses is too many.

MaxAMillion
03-15-2014, 07:52 PM
UVA has been the most consistent team in the ACC this year. I think their experience will be the difference. If the game is close in the last 5 minutes, I think UVA will be able to handle those plays bette than Duke.

MCFinARL
03-15-2014, 08:03 PM
I'm concerned about fatigue for tomorrow 3rd game in 3 days and we basically only played 6 guys today. Perhaps K is/was saving Dawkins and Plumlee for tomorrow?

I hope so--I'm concerned about fatigue as well-- but I wouldn't count on it.

Reilly
03-15-2014, 08:42 PM
The first time Duke and Virginia have met in the championship game. Terry Holland at the tourney this weekend as a legend ... we're 31 years removed from "here's to never forgetting tonight" ...

dukelifer
03-15-2014, 10:16 PM
I'm concerned about fatigue for tomorrow 3rd game in 3 days and we basically only played 6 guys today. Perhaps K is/was saving Dawkins and Plumlee for tomorrow?

UVa basically played 7 and played a much harder game. Both teams will be tired. This is about which team wants it more.

A_boy_named_HOO
03-15-2014, 11:11 PM
Of course, as a life long HOO I really want to see my team win this game. I truly believe it will be a tight game...of course UVa has been known to go to sleep on offense, but Duke has also had some lapses, I think whichever team maintains its intensity for the game wins this. A few HUGE keys to the game, if duke hits 3's, hoos are in trouble, but I think UVa has a big advantage in the paint, so we will see how it averages out. Anyway, wish you guys the best......AFTER tomorrow of course.

PS. If the hoos win, for me it will be perfect, not for hating on Duke, but then the hoos will have beat the best coach in acc history (some heels may disagree) and to me, coach Bennett is gonna be our coach for years, to hopefully get his first vs coach k would be special

Again, good luck

WAHOOWA

hurleyfor3
03-15-2014, 11:15 PM
I admire what UVa has done this year. Incredibly consistent, even in losing. Thanks and I will be rooting for UVa in the NCAAs.

OldPhiKap
03-15-2014, 11:23 PM
Of course, as a life long HOO I really want to see my team win this game. I truly believe it will be a tight game...of course UVa has been known to go to sleep on offense, but Duke has also had some lapses, I think whichever team maintains its intensity for the game wins this. A few HUGE keys to the game, if duke hits 3's, hoos are in trouble, but I think UVa has a big advantage in the paint, so we will see how it averages out. Anyway, wish you guys the best......AFTER tomorrow of course.

PS. If the hoos win, for me it will be perfect, not for hating on Duke, but then the hoos will have beat the best coach in acc history (some heels may disagree) and to me, coach Bennett is gonna be our coach for years, to hopefully get his first vs coach k would be special

Again, good luck

WAHOOWA


I admire what UVa has done this year. Incredibly consistent, even in losing. Thanks and I will be rooting for UVa in the NCAAs.

Agreed, a lot to like about UVa.

Go Duke!

Good luck UVa in the NCAA!

awhom111
03-16-2014, 12:52 AM
ACC Network for this game:



District Of Columbia
Washington, DC (Hagerstown, MD) WDCA My Network TV MY 20

Florida
Fort Myers-Naples WXCW CW '6'
Gainesville WCJB ABC TV 20
Jacksonville WAWS-D2 My Network TV WAWS-D2
Miami-Fort Lauderdale WBFS My Network TV MY 33
Orlando-Daytona Beach-Melbourne WRBW My Network TV My 65
Panama City WMBB-D2 This TV This Panama City (13.2)
Tallahassee-Thomasville WTLF CW The CW Tally
Tampa-St. Petersburg (Sarasota) WTOG CW CW 44
West Palm Beach-Ft. Pierce WTVX CW The CW West Palm

Georgia
Albany WSWG-D2 My Network TV WSWG-DT2 (WSWG.2)
Atlanta WATL My Network TV My Atl TV
Augusta WFXG-D2 Bounce TV Bounce TV
Columbus (Opelika, AL) WLTZ NBC NBC 38
Savannah WGSA CW Savannah's CW

Maryland
Baltimore WNUV CW The CW Baltimore
Hagerstown WHAG NBC Channel 26
Salisbury WRDE-DT My Network TV My RTV 9

Massachusetts
Boston (Manchester) WSBK IND TV 38
Springfield-Holyoke (WSBK) IND TV 38

New York
Albany WNYA My Network TV My 4 Albany
Binghamton WBPN My Network TV My 8 Binghamton
Elmira WJKP My Network TV My Twin Tiers
Rochester WHAM ABC 13-WHAM TV
Syracuse WSTQ CW CW 6
Utica WUTR ABC WUTR ABC Eyewitness News

North Carolina
Charlotte WBTV CBS WBTV 3
Greensboro- Winston-Salem -High Point WFMY CBS WFMY News 2
Greenville-New Bern-Washington WCTI ABC WCTI 12
Raleigh-Durham (Fayetteville) WRAL CBS WRAL TV 5
Wilmington WECT NBC TV 6

Pennsylvania
Pittsburgh WTAE-D2 This TV
State College-Johnstown-Altoona WHVL My Network TV Happy Valley
Wilkes Barre-Scanton WQMY My Network TV My Network TV WQMY

Rhode Island
Providence-New Bedford WLWC CW The CW 28

South Carolina
Charleston WMMP My Network TV My TV Charleston
Columbia WKTC My Network TV My 63
Greenville-Spartanburg-Asheville WLOS ABC ABC 13
Myrtle Beach-Florence WWMB CW Channel 21

Tennessee
Chattanooga WDSI-D2 My Network TV My Network Chattanooga
Tri-Cities WEMT-D2 CW

Virginia
Charlottesville WVIR NBC NBC 29
Harrisonburg WHSV-D4 My Network TV My Valley
Norfolk-Portsmouth-Newport News WGNT CW CW 27
Richmond-Petersburg WTVR CBS CBS 6
Roanoke-Lynchburg WDBJ CBS WDBJ 7

Bob Green
03-16-2014, 06:02 AM
Vegas consensus line has Duke as a 1 point favorite. The over/under hasn't been set. The Wahoos would love to dictate tempo and keep the score in the 50s so I believe it is important for us to execute efficiently on offense and score points to keep the pressure on Virginia to respond. A game in the 70s favors Duke. This is the third game in three days for both teams so bench play will be a factor.

Reilly
03-16-2014, 06:50 AM
Virginia 5th best in ACC in 3-point FG percentage defense ....

http://www.roanoke.com/sports/colleges/uva/uva-will-have-to-guard-perimeter-against-duke-in-acc/article_6473d062-acb8-11e3-bae0-001a4bcf6878.html

ice-9
03-16-2014, 06:54 AM
Vegas consensus line has Duke as a 1 point favorite. The over/under hasn't been set. The Wahoos would love to dictate tempo and keep the score in the 50s so I believe it is important for us to execute efficiently on offense and score points to keep the pressure on Virginia to respond. A game in the 70s favors Duke. This is the third game in three days for both teams so bench play will be a factor.

I'm surprised Vegas has us slight favorites -- UVA has looked better so far this tournament IMO in handily beating a desperate FSU fighting for its NCAA tournament life, whereas we survived Clemson by just 1 point. UVA did have a close game against Pitt, but this is a very good team and arguably, materially better than either NC State or Clemson.

I hope Vegas is right! It's going to be a battle, but I also think we're battle tested. Duke will know how to play tired after going through that deadly gauntlet of Maryland, GT, UNC, Syracuse and VT in 10 days.

Matches
03-16-2014, 07:51 AM
UVa basically played 7 and played a much harder game. Both teams will be tired. This is about which team wants it more.

Yea, the 3 games in 3 days thing is overstated - it's always the case that both teams are fatigued by the time the ACCCG rolls around. 4 of their guys played 30+ minutes yesterday, and IMO the notion that + or - 5 minutes of game time makes a difference the next day is silly. Both teams will have fatigue - they just have to push through it.

I do think there's a valid concern that, if our legs are a little dead, scoring against the pack line defense becomes harder, because it's a D that really requires you to hit some perimeter shots. Of course, it's also a defense that requires the other team to PLAY D for long stretches of time, so if their legs are tired (or mentally they're not 100% sharp), their execution may fall off some as well.

Basically this one's a toss-up. Two pretty evenly matched teams with contrasting styles duking it out. Should be a ton of fun.

hillsborodevil
03-16-2014, 08:01 AM
Duke/UVa just feels right for the Championship game. Syracuse has really tanked lately.

I expect Duke will light it up today as the 3 pt shooters should be comfortable hitting their stride/stroke with their third day playing in the same coliseum.

Joe Harris is one of my favorite ACC players. Wish he was a Dukie.

MarkD83
03-16-2014, 08:10 AM
Yea, the 3 games in 3 days thing is overstated - it's always the case that both teams are fatigued by the time the ACCCG rolls around. 4 of their guys played 30+ minutes yesterday, and IMO the notion that + or - 5 minutes of game time makes a difference the next day is silly. Both teams will have fatigue - they just have to push through it.

I do think there's a valid concern that, if our legs are a little dead, scoring against the pack line defense becomes harder, because it's a D that really requires you to hit some perimeter shots. Of course, it's also a defense that requires the other team to PLAY D for long stretches of time, so if their legs are tired (or mentally they're not 100% sharp), their execution may fall off some as well.

Basically this one's a toss-up. Two pretty evenly matched teams with contrasting styles duking it out. Should be a ton of fun.

I believe Duke has a wild card in this game. I do not know why Andre sat out yesterday, but I hope he has fresh legs, a killer attitude and the shooting touch he had against Baylor as a freshman.

dukelifer
03-16-2014, 08:20 AM
Yea, the 3 games in 3 days thing is overstated - it's always the case that both teams are fatigued by the time the ACCCG rolls around. 4 of their guys played 30+ minutes yesterday, and IMO the notion that + or - 5 minutes of game time makes a difference the next day is silly. Both teams will have fatigue - they just have to push through it.

I do think there's a valid concern that, if our legs are a little dead, scoring against the pack line defense becomes harder, because it's a D that really requires you to hit some perimeter shots. Of course, it's also a defense that requires the other team to PLAY D for long stretches of time, so if their legs are tired (or mentally they're not 100% sharp), their execution may fall off some as well.

Basically this one's a toss-up. Two pretty evenly matched teams with contrasting styles duking it out. Should be a ton of fun.

You can get very high scoring games in the finals because the D struggles to be as intense. Duke may try to platoon early and try to wear them out. Maybe Semi will see some time. The game will come down to second half execution.

Saratoga2
03-16-2014, 08:41 AM
Hope a couple of people can hit 3s tomorrow. That may be important against the Pack Line. Today, that was Cook.

Their so called pack line defense is set up to take away three of our potential strengths. Rasheed's and Rodney's drives into the paint. Jabari's scoring inside and our transition game. They only rebound with two and send three back to prevent the break away. That kind of defense will elevate Rodney and Quinn who seem to be our best three point shooters at this juncture. Too bad Andre doesn't seem to be in the mix at this point for whatever reason. Our free throw shooting can't desert us today and since it runs hot and cold we will have to cross our fingers.

Clearly we will need to play 40 minutes of our best defense. We do have Tyler, Matt and Marshall who can mix it up on defense and keep the pressure on. Can we win, certainly, but only if we are disciplined and smart. We and they will all be tired, so there won't be excuses.

MCFinARL
03-16-2014, 09:23 AM
Yea, the 3 games in 3 days thing is overstated - it's always the case that both teams are fatigued by the time the ACCCG rolls around. 4 of their guys played 30+ minutes yesterday, and IMO the notion that + or - 5 minutes of game time makes a difference the next day is silly. Both teams will have fatigue - they just have to push through it.

I do think there's a valid concern that, if our legs are a little dead, scoring against the pack line defense becomes harder, because it's a D that really requires you to hit some perimeter shots. Of course, it's also a defense that requires the other team to PLAY D for long stretches of time, so if their legs are tired (or mentally they're not 100% sharp), their execution may fall off some as well.

Basically this one's a toss-up. Two pretty evenly matched teams with contrasting styles duking it out. Should be a ton of fun.

As long as they are Duking it out, I feel pretty good about our chances. ;)

Kedsy
03-16-2014, 10:16 AM
Virginia 5th best in ACC in 3-point FG percentage defense ....

http://www.roanoke.com/sports/colleges/uva/uva-will-have-to-guard-perimeter-against-duke-in-acc/article_6473d062-acb8-11e3-bae0-001a4bcf6878.html

We shot 10-22 on threes (45.5%) against UVa in the game in Durham. Andre was 1 for 1 from three (1 for 3 overall) in 12 minutes.

Furniture
03-16-2014, 11:16 AM
I hope thay they don't get the chance to slap the floor like they did against Pitt yesterday...

NYBri
03-16-2014, 11:42 AM
Just checked the Chapel Hill weather for tomorrow: 53F and rainy all day with 100% chance of not playing.

Best post of 2014.

Fish80
03-16-2014, 12:51 PM
What the heck's a wahoo? Some type of fish, I believe.

Two defensive keys to the game: slowing down Joe Harris and containing London Parentees.

Two offensive keys to the game: Hit some threes, and score off some offensive rebounds.

Go Duke!

Furniture
03-16-2014, 12:52 PM
No surprises

http://www.scacchoops.com/ViewHDGame.asp?hSchedule=26117

Jackson
03-16-2014, 01:02 PM
Watching ESPN pre-game. Does Jay Bilas EVER pick Duke to win a big game?

devilnfla
03-16-2014, 01:04 PM
Watching ESPN pre-game. Does Jay Bilas EVER pick Duke to win a big game?

I'm shocked Jay Williams picked us.

moonpie23
03-16-2014, 01:04 PM
ugh.....jamie lucky.... :(

riverside6
03-16-2014, 01:05 PM
Live tempo based stats for Duke/UVA…

http://www.scacchoops.com/ViewHDGame.asp?hSchedule=26117

Gthoma2a
03-16-2014, 01:08 PM
If we are running the offense through Amile, it will be a long day.

CR9
03-16-2014, 01:11 PM
9-0 run. Need Marshall.

ChrisP
03-16-2014, 01:12 PM
Quick shots. AWESOME :(

moonpie23
03-16-2014, 01:13 PM
gotta get the inside tighter..

ChrisP
03-16-2014, 01:13 PM
Quick shots. AWESOME :(

Meant to say "quick, bad shots" :(

Gthoma2a
03-16-2014, 01:14 PM
We need to take the best opportunity, not the first one. We keep jumping at any shot and we will get behind. They are patient and pick their shots well, no matter how fast we threw something at the rim on our end. This isn't the time to try to push the pace.

arnie
03-16-2014, 01:14 PM
9-0 run. Need Marshall.

Need that or crash the boards. UVA not likely to run so we need someone fighting for O boards.

nyesq83
03-16-2014, 01:15 PM
gotta go to the basket hard. UVA can shoot jump shots. We must force the action and get to the rim - Tobey leads UVA in shots blocked and he is guarding Jabari.

haha Mitchell on Jabari blocks his shot and Brogden hits the three. I will stop commenting now.

Gthoma2a
03-16-2014, 01:16 PM
It is going to take mental fortitude to stay together. We have to be mature.

We need D boards. Recycled possessions are killing us. We will never get back in this thing without rebounding. We are about to go down double digits.

Hood is playing out of control on the past two possessions.

devilnfla
03-16-2014, 01:17 PM
Sub 5 for 5!

arnie
03-16-2014, 01:18 PM
Need that or crash the boards. UVA not likely to run so we need someone fighting for O boards.

Pitiful effort and execution so far

CR9
03-16-2014, 01:19 PM
Need to spread 'em out and run the weave. Make them work.

Potato
03-16-2014, 01:20 PM
This could get ugly.

ChrisP
03-16-2014, 01:20 PM
Thus far, this game has the distinct feel of "It's just Virginia's day". Shooting really well, loose balls bouncing their way, etc.

Sometimes...you can just tell how things will go after the first few minutes.

Utley
03-16-2014, 01:21 PM
Only thing I hate more than losing is being outfought - and it's not even close there,

CR9
03-16-2014, 01:22 PM
Will 'em back into it, Bari. But Jesus do Virginia just hack down there.

Les Grossman
03-16-2014, 01:22 PM
zebras finally saw a foul.

freshmanjs
03-16-2014, 01:24 PM
Thus far, this game has the distinct feel of "It's just Virginia's day". Shooting really well, loose balls bouncing their way, etc.

Sometimes...you can just tell how things will go after the first few minutes.

so, you already know how this is going to end? impressive.

Les Grossman
03-16-2014, 01:25 PM
zebras finally saw a foul.
Parker got hammered. no whistles? lets adjust and bang them

BlueandWhite
03-16-2014, 01:26 PM
Thus far, this game has the distinct feel of "It's just Virginia's day". Shooting really well, loose balls bouncing their way, etc.

Sometimes...you can just tell how things will go after the first few minutes.

Let's not throw in the towel just yet...

Gthoma2a
03-16-2014, 01:26 PM
Tyler fouled away from the basket with a guy who didn't even have the ball. I'm shocked.

Our defense is very slow to react.

We've got to start using more of our options.

_Gary
03-16-2014, 01:27 PM
Fatigue makes cowards of us all. We are getting outfought because we haven't made use of our bench in this tournament. I'm fully convinced of that. And the small rotation we do have is totally mystifying to me right now. No Andre, but we get Josh. I just flat out don't get it and I don't agree - unless there's an injury or illness I'm unaware of.

DukeGrad
03-16-2014, 01:27 PM
It's a little worrisome the way the refs are letting Virginia do anything they want under the defensive basket. Duke is just getting hacked and smashed ridiculously hard. They're going to be pretty banged up by the end of it.

jipops
03-16-2014, 01:28 PM
This is total domination.

A-Tex Devil
03-16-2014, 01:29 PM
Love that we had Thornton, Hairston and Plumlee on floor at same time when down in first half. Makes sense against a team as crappy on D as UVA. Builds confidence.

arnie
03-16-2014, 01:30 PM
Need to spread 'em out and run the weave. Make them work.

He played H, TT , plum at same time. Simply can't do that to the offense.

Les Grossman
03-16-2014, 01:30 PM
come on guys

_Gary
03-16-2014, 01:30 PM
This is total domination.

Yep. People need to stop whining about the refs. We are just getting outworked - period!

CR9
03-16-2014, 01:30 PM
Back door.

-jk
03-16-2014, 01:31 PM
Reminder - no venting here.

-jk

Gthoma2a
03-16-2014, 01:31 PM
Did Andre graduate and go home?

Finally, a 3 is shot! If we are going to miss, we may as well miss shots that count for the maximum possible points.

_Gary
03-16-2014, 01:32 PM
Did Andre graduate and go home?

Apparently. I don't know when I've been more upset with rotation decisions. I almost pray Andre is either hurt or sick. If not, I'm going to be scratching my head at the end of this tournament - win or lose. Not "venting", just perplexed as all get out.

arnie
03-16-2014, 01:32 PM
Did Andre graduate and go home?

Finally, a 3 is shot! If we are going to miss, we may as well miss shots that count for high points.

The scheme isn't working. UVA has great D but this ridiculous

Utley
03-16-2014, 01:33 PM
How can we both not play any defense and also have way more fouls?

striker219
03-16-2014, 01:34 PM
Yep. People need to stop whining about the refs. We are just getting outworked - period!

Agreed. Against a defense this solid you have to bring some energy. Maybe we're starting to? Haven't really seen much though.

Gthoma2a
03-16-2014, 01:35 PM
Rasheed went dancing and forgot the ball...

Cameron
03-16-2014, 01:35 PM
Far too much one-on-one play. Ball movement is your friend.

Les Grossman
03-16-2014, 01:35 PM
Agreed. Against a defense this solid you have to bring some energy. Maybe we're starting to? Haven't really seen much though.
I'd prefer to whine about the refs vs whine about the players!

Utley
03-16-2014, 01:36 PM
Missed a coupe of big chances to tighten this up but we seem more energized now.

SCMatt33
03-16-2014, 01:37 PM
Duke is just really pressing right now. This team has had a bit of a problem with poise away from Cameron this year. You have to play a team game against UVA, and everything is one-on-one.

BigZ
03-16-2014, 01:37 PM
How are we this good at offensive rebounding yet terrible on the defensive boards?

gumbomoop
03-16-2014, 01:37 PM
Exciting, intense game so far, worthy of a final. UVa's relentlessness admirable. Rodney rarely blocks out. Rasheed's crossover not good enough against this defense.

Cameron
03-16-2014, 01:38 PM
Andre is 6-5. He has the height to get clean looks over this tight defense. Coach K is killing this team by confining a talent of that stature to a chair.

CR9
03-16-2014, 01:38 PM
Rodney's left 3 shots he normally makes short. Not good.

_Gary
03-16-2014, 01:38 PM
Far too much one-on-one play. Ball movement is your friend.

Agree completely. But to be honest, we've seen that a lot this season. I'm not sure if this particular team really plays together as well as a unit as most other Duke teams have. But I'm all for ball movement and more assists.

dairedevil
03-16-2014, 01:39 PM
Luckily, the cavs had a scoring drought, or this would be a really deeep hole. Lotta game left to play, I'm not ready to say it's all over yet. It would be really nice if we culd find the center of the basket, though.

striker219
03-16-2014, 01:39 PM
Maybe Hood should stop shooting from inside 25 feet.

DukeGrad
03-16-2014, 01:39 PM
I'd prefer to whine about the refs vs whine about the players!

Especially, when many of them are playing exceptionally hard. I mean some of these calls and no calls are bordering on ridiculous.

It's not been a great game, but the players certainly don't deserve as much blame as some are giving them here.

BlueandWhite
03-16-2014, 01:40 PM
Rodney's left 3 shots he normally makes short. Not good.

Whine, complain everyone & now what's the score ...oh, we're only down by 1! Yes UVA has been out working Duke & both Parker & Hood have been cold but UVA hasn't exactly been lighting it up either!

CR9
03-16-2014, 01:41 PM
Gotta be strong and aggressive like that from Jabari. Take notes, boys in blue.

SCMatt33
03-16-2014, 01:41 PM
Hood looks gassed right now. He's put a lot of work in on no rest, and you can see it in his shooting around the rim. I'm not a big proponent of the "fatigue" thing over the long term, but you can see that he doesn't have the same lift and has left some floaters woefully short. Good job getting through it though for the team

Kjeffrey
03-16-2014, 01:42 PM
Does anyone have any real knowledge of why Andre is not playing? I know some said last night they heard he was sick but I am looking for confirmation of that. Has he actually played since he was called for the foul on Clemson's three point shot on Friday night?

Utley
03-16-2014, 01:42 PM
Maybe Hood should stop shooting from inside 25 feet.

He's missed 3 or4 open choppers.

Les Grossman
03-16-2014, 01:45 PM
would like to see them push tempo off D rebounds. Don't let the Cavs set up their D

SCMatt33
03-16-2014, 01:46 PM
As much as you can knock the defensive effort this year, they have really come to play today. UVA made some tough shots early, and Duke gave up some boards, but they have really settled in and this is one of the only times this year that we've seen a run that was really keyed by the defense and not the offense.

arnie
03-16-2014, 01:46 PM
Rodney's left 3 shots he normally makes short. Not good.

How is this game tied??? I feel UVA should be ahead by 10. Our D has been solid, but believe Hoos have left a lot in the table.

Utley
03-16-2014, 01:46 PM
Nice step in our intensity.

ChrisP
03-16-2014, 01:49 PM
Omg, I think heck just froze over - Dawkins in!

jipops
03-16-2014, 01:49 PM
Now we see why Andre has not played

_Gary
03-16-2014, 01:50 PM
Now we see why Andre has not played

Come on.

Les Grossman
03-16-2014, 01:51 PM
Now we see why Andre has not played
TO happened because he has not played

bbosbbos
03-16-2014, 01:51 PM
To learn handling, he needs to hold a basketball in his hands for 12 hours everyday.


Now we see why Andre has not played

Udaman
03-16-2014, 01:51 PM
What was that!?!?!

_Gary
03-16-2014, 01:52 PM
Dre!!!! Yes!!!!

CR9
03-16-2014, 01:53 PM
Gotta pressure that Perrantes kid and turn him over.

dcdrumsinc
03-16-2014, 01:53 PM
i turned on the game a few minutes ago. the first played, jabari was double teamed and kicked it out cross court to quinn only for quinn to jack up a 25 footer when he could have driven and slashed to the basket. story of their season. live and die by the three. usually die by the time tourney time comes...

CDu
03-16-2014, 01:54 PM
Man, UVa came out blistering. But good for the team in fighting back in this game. I wonder if we can sustain the level of energy necessary to win it. But to come back from down 9 to tie it up (and have a chance to take the lead) is impressive.

Not sure what the technical foul was about. But it seemed to get us fired up. Maybe it'll spark us the rest of the way.

DukeGrad
03-16-2014, 01:55 PM
What was K's technical for? The ESPN announcers have no idea.

Gthoma2a
03-16-2014, 01:55 PM
What kind of BS is it to tech a guy up from across the court?!

Then, we get what we needed from Dre.

Potato
03-16-2014, 01:55 PM
About to be a wild second half

willywoody
03-16-2014, 01:55 PM
Anyone know what caused the technical ?

SharkD
03-16-2014, 01:55 PM
Has there been any explanation of the technical foul?

striker219
03-16-2014, 01:56 PM
Has there been any explanation of the technical foul?

Yes please, I'd love to hear what happened there.

jipops
03-16-2014, 01:56 PM
I love how we've fought back to get in this game.

Gthoma2a
03-16-2014, 01:56 PM
i turned on the game a few minutes ago. the first played, jabari was double teamed and kicked it out cross court to quinn only for quinn to jack up a 25 footer when he could have driven and slashed to the basket. story of their season. live and die by the three. usually die by the time tourney time comes...

That was a good shot compared to what we were getting close to the basket. We didn't shoot a 3 for the first, what felt like, 10 minutes.

ice-9
03-16-2014, 01:56 PM
This is a defensive fight. Amazing defensive plays by both teams. This is going to come down who wants it most, who wants to fight and go grab it.

UVA took it to us for the first 8 minutes. We're responding. Jabari's passion has ignited this team.

mattman91
03-16-2014, 01:56 PM
Has there been any explanation of the technical foul?

Daniel Ewing must have said something from the stands.

Les Grossman
03-16-2014, 01:57 PM
That's a first!

CLW
03-16-2014, 01:57 PM
Another POOR defensive effort for large stretches in the half and UVA isn't going to give up ANYTHING easy. This team better come out spitting nails and play with a SERIOUS anger/attitude or they will get beat 10-15 points.

bbosbbos
03-16-2014, 01:57 PM
To play against pack defense, I do not think slashing to the basket by Cook is a good idea. imho

btw, Hood is likely tired. His 2 pt jump shots are a little bit off. Normally he is very good at that.


i turned on the game a few minutes ago. the first played, jabari was double teamed and kicked it out cross court to quinn only for quinn to jack up a 25 footer when he could have driven and slashed to the basket. story of their season. live and die by the three. usually die by the time tourney time comes...

BigZ
03-16-2014, 01:57 PM
So the ref he is arguing with is ten feet away and does nothing but the ref across the court calls a tech, makes sense

jipops
03-16-2014, 01:58 PM
i turned on the game a few minutes ago. the first played, jabari was double teamed and kicked it out cross court to quinn only for quinn to jack up a 25 footer when he could have driven and slashed to the basket. story of their season. live and die by the three. usually die by the time tourney time comes...

One of the more overused and inaccurate assessments. So what you're saying is you're judging this game based on the one play you've seen?

Dukeface88
03-16-2014, 01:58 PM
That was a good shot compared to what we were getting close to the basket. We didn't shoot a 3 for the first, what felt like, 10 minutes.

Yeah, Quinn was pretty open on that shot. For once we're having offensive problems that don't involve jacking up ill-advised 3s.

UrinalCake
03-16-2014, 01:59 PM
Did a good job withstanding their initial charge, then we started to get the 50/50 balls (well, take them really) and UVA's shooting cooled off. Our defense has been very good, they're just making some good plays and hitting tough shots. We haven't allowed too many blow-by's or open dunks.

Really entertaining game so far, if we can keep up the intensity we can win this.

ice-9
03-16-2014, 01:59 PM
Rodney's left 3 shots he normally makes short. Not good.

Short shots is a sign of fatigue. I was worried about this from the NC State game as shown in the late missed free throws.

Gthoma2a
03-16-2014, 01:59 PM
Now we see why Andre has not played

No. Now, we see how little our guys look back after they pass. Someone should have helped. Not to mention that with more playing time, he would be more comfortable out there. Glad he hit a 3 right after you said this.

Les Grossman
03-16-2014, 01:59 PM
the FT disparity?

Pretty sure that's why the Sharpie went flying!

gumbomoop
03-16-2014, 01:59 PM
Defensive intensity of Duke-Butler final in 2010.

jipops
03-16-2014, 02:00 PM
No. Now, we see how little our guys look back after they pass. Someone should have helped. Not to mention that with more playing time, he would be more comfortable out there. Glad he hit a 3 right after you said this.

Yea, me too. He's better in spot up situations here. He should not be putting the ball on the floor in this game.

rsvman
03-16-2014, 02:01 PM
Bogus technical much?

cspan37421
03-16-2014, 02:01 PM
I like how K is pulling out all the stops, in terms of it being the 3rd game in 3 days, and he's actually using his bench. Didn't look upstream, but how about Marshall getting a steal? Wasted opportunity, if I recall. Hood is cold from inside, but has hit outside, so I'm not sure it's his "lift" - wouldn't that affect the outside shot even more? He is leaving it short inside, but I suspect calibration, not exhaustion.

Parker is getting manhandled down low, and he needs to pass out of double-teams. Someone must be open - one would hope nearby.

UVA is doing an excellent job extending their defense and defending the 3 - until late in the first half.

Would love to find out what got the technical on Coach K. From across the court? Maybe the zebra felt he gave the slashed-throat sign with his steely, cold eyes.

We are lucky to only be down 3. UVA left a lot on the line (as we did yesterday). I think we can definitely climb back in this by getting Parker going. Don't want to rely on o/s shooting to win the game, but we may have to if UVA's interior defense continues to be so solid. But even then, I think we have the shooters to do it. Will just have to get good at running screens. Marshall seems to be most eager to do so. Actually he's eager to do anything on the court, except look disinterested.

dcdrumsinc
03-16-2014, 02:03 PM
To play against pack defense, I do not think slashing to the basket by Cook is a good idea. imho

btw, Hood is likely tired. His 2 pt jump shots are a little bit off. Normally he is very good at that.

So you suggest us to continue to just keep shooting threes because we are tired? I don't like that idea. Cook got the ball as the defense was scrambling and all over the place as they double teamed jabari strong far in the opposite corner. he could have took a few steps in or looked to drive and kick again. that's all im suggesting

SharkD
03-16-2014, 02:03 PM
Daniel Ewing must have said something from the stands.

I heard it was Patrick Davidson...

cspan37421
03-16-2014, 02:03 PM
the FT disparity?

Pretty sure that's why the Sharpie went flying!

You can note it, but from decades of watching Duke basketball, we often have to hear that from the losing side. FT disparity d/n matter if there's a corresponding foul disparity.

Gthoma2a
03-16-2014, 02:04 PM
Yea, me too. He's better in spot up situations here. He should not be putting the ball on the floor in this game.

I will concede that he is BEST with that. He has improved his handle a lot, though. He has scored on drives more lately. I think he was in a spot up situation there, but they trapped and left the guy who made the hand-off by himself. If you haven't even been playing, getting caught in a trap isn't what you want to see on your first play.

BluDvlsN1
03-16-2014, 02:04 PM
Virginia is very good, and that's just about their best shot.
We're in a good position w/o major Parker/Hood contributions.
I see that changing to our advantage in 2nd half.
Will still be a fight, I just believe we have more way to win, that are still to evidence
themselves.

IMO

Gthoma2a
03-16-2014, 02:05 PM
So you suggest us to continue to just keep shooting threes because we are tired? I don't like that idea. Cook got the ball as the defense was scrambling and all over the place as they double teamed jabari strong far in the opposite corner. he could have took a few steps in or looked to drive and kick again. that's all im suggesting

We need to do both. We will have more options in the second half with Jabari back. I just hope we keep the fired up feeling from the technical. We will need the 3 ball.

FerryFor50
03-16-2014, 02:06 PM
3 point game despite playing like hot garbage most of the half. I'll take it.

Duke took UVA's initial best shot and hung in there. Defense has been passable and the offense is starting to come along.

I think the 2nd half will be better for Duke.

ice-9
03-16-2014, 02:08 PM
Hood is cold from inside, but has hit outside, so I'm not sure it's his "lift" - wouldn't that affect the outside shot even more? He is leaving it short inside, but I suspect calibration, not exhaustion.

Not really, not for me anyway. Shooting from long distance with feet set in a motion from muscle memory is a lot less effort vs. driving in, maneuvering for an open shot, feet not set, lift that's not always straight up, distance that needs spontaneous gauging...for when I play basketball, the latter requires more energy and focus. I'm guessing the same for Rodney, and why with fatigue he's shorting all these bunnies.

Utley
03-16-2014, 02:08 PM
I like to see Jabari kick out when doubled team down low. The 3 has be there. Could open up down low - they are going to let him him beat us down low otherwise.

Need to play our best Defensive half of the season here.

SCMatt33
03-16-2014, 02:09 PM
In seeing that replay, I think it was the right call on the T if it was because of the thrown marker. I really don't think it is appropriate to be throwing things on the bench, especially for a coach. I think they way he continued to yell at the officials in the direction of the shooter during the following FT's. It's one thing to continue with the official standing next to you, but yelling across the court with the shooter in that same direction isn't appropriate, regardless of how good or bad the initial call was.

Outside of the T, this team has responded very well to the initial struggles. This is Duke's third game in less than 40 hours, and they had to work for 40 minutes to win each of the first two. You could really see Hood struggle with his floater, which is a shot that relies entirely on legs. The three pointers are more a function of technique and the upper body in addition to lift, and you could see he wasn't as affected on the jumpers.

I love Jabari's will. Even when he was struggling, he has really kept fighting hard to pull the team through. That's the kind of player that puts a team on his back in the tourney.

Overall, I have nothing but praise for the defensive effort in this one. They kept UVA away from the three's for the most part, and aside from some loose play on the boards early, has forced them to take tough shots. UVA isn't generally an offensive juggernaut anyway, but Duke has allowed even bad offensive teams to go off on them at times this year.

Wildling
03-16-2014, 02:09 PM
I think we just took Virginia's best shot and we are still in the game. I like our chances in the 2nd half if we can give them our best shot :)

60's Devil
03-16-2014, 02:10 PM
Virginia is very good, and that's just about their best shot.
We're in a good position w/o major Parker/Hood contributions.
I see that changing to our advantage in 2nd half.
Will still be a fight, I just believe we have more way to win, that are still to evidence
themselves.

IMO

I agree wholeheartedly. Hood will start hitting that mid-range jumper. We are destined to win since Bilas picked UVA

Buckeye Devil
03-16-2014, 02:10 PM
This could be a lot worse than 3 down. Not the best half of basketball with only 25 points. Knock down a few 3's and get a few calls to go our way and we will be ok. 14 free throws to 3 seems to say something to me.

bbosbbos
03-16-2014, 02:11 PM
I did not say keeping shooting 3 will be better. I said Cook slashing in is not a good option at this stage. Cook is too small and slow while their D is so strong. Maybe in the later stage when everyone has several fouls then Cook can do that.


So you suggest us to continue to just keep shooting threes because we are tired? I don't like that idea. Cook got the ball as the defense was scrambling and all over the place as they double teamed jabari strong far in the opposite corner. he could have took a few steps in or looked to drive and kick again. that's all im suggesting

UrinalCake
03-16-2014, 02:12 PM
Stupid comment by the acc.com commentators. One guy remarks at the free throw disparity in UVA's favor, and the other says it's because Duke has been hoisting so many threes. Idiots, all of them.

Gthoma2a
03-16-2014, 02:16 PM
Rasheed has to take it up higher when he is taking it to the basket, if he wants to draw contact at the rim.

striker219
03-16-2014, 02:18 PM
Stupid comment by the acc.com commentators. One guy remarks at the free throw disparity in UVA's favor, and the other says it's because Duke has been hoisting so many threes. Idiots, all of them.

Was it the same guy who said that Kansas would be the fourth number one seed if they won their conference tourney, hours after Kansas got knocked out of said tourney? Because that was a pretty impressive moment.

CDu
03-16-2014, 02:19 PM
Stupid comment by the acc.com commentators. One guy remarks at the free throw disparity in UVA's favor, and the other says it's because Duke has been hoisting so many threes. Idiots, all of them.

That's not what was said. Gminski said "I could understand it if Duke was hoisting a bunch of threes, but they haven't been..."

ice-9
03-16-2014, 02:20 PM
Can't believe I'm saying this, but maybe we should take more 3s and then have everyone crash the boards for a second chance.

dcdrumsinc
03-16-2014, 02:21 PM
Stupid comment by the acc.com commentators. One guy remarks at the free throw disparity in UVA's favor, and the other says it's because Duke has been hoisting so many threes. Idiots, all of them.

The free throw disparity could also be because we are not aggressive enough or used to finishing through contact because we are too much of a habitual jump shooting team.

Gthoma2a
03-16-2014, 02:23 PM
They really let Jabari get hit. That should have been an and 1.

dcdrumsinc
03-16-2014, 02:23 PM
Has rasheed ever thought about scooping in an underhand layup once in a while rather than just throw up a wild shot and hope it goes in??

Udaman
03-16-2014, 02:27 PM
Refs now suddenly calling everything.

Gthoma2a
03-16-2014, 02:27 PM
Quick shot with no probing of the defense.

Dre!

CR9
03-16-2014, 02:31 PM
Amile needs to step out on Harris.

CLW
03-16-2014, 02:31 PM
Closing Time and we are -1 not good.

nyesq83
03-16-2014, 02:32 PM
Dawkins missed three was a six point turnaround after Joe Harris made his 3. Ick.

Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
03-16-2014, 02:33 PM
Feels like a 50/50 last shot game.

SCMatt33
03-16-2014, 02:33 PM
Duke' been in this situation a lot this year (close with 10 minutes left). Most of the time away from Cameron, the results haven't been great. Let's see if someone can step up. Everyone seems to be on fumes. I'm looking at Cook and Dawkins as guys who might have some more in the tank.

Utley
03-16-2014, 02:33 PM
Looked like a good play by Cook -Eesh.

Buckeye Devil
03-16-2014, 02:33 PM
hard to speed them up but I wish we would press full court after made shots

SCMatt33
03-16-2014, 02:36 PM
Man, Duke's had a lot of big buckets today, but they haven't seemed to be able to follow them up with a stop. The defense has been great overall, but now it's time to make it timely, too

Gthoma2a
03-16-2014, 02:38 PM
Jabari is killing it!!

striker219
03-16-2014, 02:38 PM
This Parker fellow is a little raw, but he is talented. By his junior or senior year he could be a pretty respectable basketball player.

Les Grossman
03-16-2014, 02:38 PM
lets go, boys!

SCMatt33
03-16-2014, 02:38 PM
I love the timeout call. We need to follow up with a stop and setting up a defensive possession could help with that.

Buckeye Devil
03-16-2014, 02:39 PM
Man, Duke's had a lot of big buckets today, but they haven't seemed to be able to follow them up with a stop. The defense has been great overall, but now it's time to make it timely, too

Prophetic. We just made another one. We need a stop on the timeout

CR9
03-16-2014, 02:39 PM
Will 'em, bari.

Gthoma2a
03-16-2014, 02:39 PM
This Parker fellow is a little raw, but he is talented. By his junior or senior year he could be a pretty respectable basketball player.

Really? I'm just not seeing it.

CLW
03-16-2014, 02:39 PM
big buckets by parker unfortunately we don't follow them up with that other 1/2 of basketball called defense.

Utley
03-16-2014, 02:39 PM
Just a great game - Jabari is special.

bbosbbos
03-16-2014, 02:40 PM
Refs are killing us. Any touch by us is a foul while they can hammer us without calling. Watch Parker's dunk. UVA player used elbowed to hit him. After Parker got the 2 pt jump shot. Amile was down on the court. Why? Why? Why?

Les Grossman
03-16-2014, 02:41 PM
errr, shoot mo 3s?

Gthoma2a
03-16-2014, 02:42 PM
errr, shoot mo 3s?

No, lest we live or die by it. Don't want to seem too greedy.

We aren't getting calls, but we can't control that. We can control getting the boards. We need to get the boards.

CLW
03-16-2014, 02:42 PM
NOONE gets back to play defense b/c that requires heart and effort.

CR9
03-16-2014, 02:43 PM
Dammit Amile. Be strong.

devilnfla
03-16-2014, 02:43 PM
Virginia gets a whistle on every close play at the basket. Duke not so much. Just don't get it.

SCMatt33
03-16-2014, 02:43 PM
The rebounds are gonna kill us here, but gotta make the shots near the rim so we don't need them.

Udaman
03-16-2014, 02:43 PM
That basket and foul was because Parker didn't get back to play defense.

nyesq83
03-16-2014, 02:43 PM
We are 0-2 when trailing at the half.

Buckeye Devil
03-16-2014, 02:43 PM
The refs seem determined not to let this be a game where the haters say "Duke gets all the calls."

ice-9
03-16-2014, 02:44 PM
Man, we can't give up transition buckets like that.

Cook has got to be aggressive going for the layup and try to draw the foul. Instead he passes it out to someone who's quickly guarded, we miss the shot on the ensuing play, they get the rebound, our guys are slow to get back on transition d, and Harris does what Cook should've and gets the and-1. Argh!

We got to focus, play angry, and regain the momentum.

striker219
03-16-2014, 02:44 PM
Really? I'm just not seeing it.

Oh, you're just one of those "Duke can't develop bigs" haters. I have faith in our coaching staff, they know what they're doing if he's willing to put in the work.

pamtar
03-16-2014, 02:44 PM
No-call on the Hood drive was laughable

bbosbbos
03-16-2014, 02:45 PM
I think we need some inside out. They rebound so strong. Who knows the rebound difference?

gumbomoop
03-16-2014, 02:45 PM
Unfortunately, Jabari's rim-punishing thunder-dumb cost Duke 4 points there.

jipops
03-16-2014, 02:46 PM
That sequence really hurt. Could be the turning point

sporthenry
03-16-2014, 02:47 PM
That sequence really hurt. Could be the turning point

Agreed. 4 point turnaround. Missed layup by Hood, missed put back and easy basket the other way. UVA is a team who just executes down the stretch. They can turn a tie game into a 6-8 point lead in the blink of an eye.

Udaman
03-16-2014, 02:48 PM
And I've UVA could make free throws we would be getting blown out.

bbosbbos
03-16-2014, 02:48 PM
Refs are jokes today. check K's T.


No-call on the Hood drive was laughable

Udaman
03-16-2014, 02:48 PM
Refs calling all contact. Unreal.

jipops
03-16-2014, 02:48 PM
Our defense stinks right now

SCMatt33
03-16-2014, 02:49 PM
Here we go again with the D. 5 out of the last 6 with points for UVA

Edit: 6 out of 7. I really hate making these posts.

Utley
03-16-2014, 02:49 PM
Feels,like the first cues game from a foul standpoint

g-money
03-16-2014, 02:50 PM
On the bright side, the fact that we're still in this game despite the vast FT discrepancy shows some real toughness by our guys.

CDu
03-16-2014, 02:50 PM
I think we need some inside out. They rebound so strong. Who knows the rebound difference?

We actually have more rebounds than them.

CR9
03-16-2014, 02:50 PM
Where is the defense for goodness sake? That's as easy as it gets.

bbosbbos
03-16-2014, 02:50 PM
They played well. But if pushing them is foul and pushing us is good D, I have no idea what to do.

Go Duke!

jipops
03-16-2014, 02:50 PM
We have to hit 3's now. The defense will not get stops.

Gthoma2a
03-16-2014, 02:51 PM
Four fouls and that assist, he may want to sit for a moment.

CLW
03-16-2014, 02:51 PM
cannot win this one unless the team decides it actually wants to make the sacrifice and play some defense and get stops.

ice-9
03-16-2014, 02:51 PM
We have got to stop fouling so much. If we foul, we have to make those count. Right now we're fouling in a chippy way, and by chippy I mean UVA can still get a good shot off. We don't need to foul, just make it difficult to shoot. It's enough.

jsimmons
03-16-2014, 02:51 PM
We actually have more rebounds than them.

Is so bad, they have scored on 8 possessions in a row.

SCMatt33
03-16-2014, 02:52 PM
7 of 8. Every single time. You can't win tournament games like this.

bbosbbos
03-16-2014, 02:52 PM
I do not know how to D when any touch is called foul.


Is so bad, they have scored on 8 possessions in a row.

ICP
03-16-2014, 02:52 PM
Oh Thornton...

ice-9
03-16-2014, 02:53 PM
Maybe time to bust out the zone and confuse 'em.

CR9
03-16-2014, 02:53 PM
They're going to double Jabari so someone else has to step up.

CLW
03-16-2014, 02:53 PM
this is the worst defensive team K has had in i don't know how long they CANNOT come up with a stop when they need one.

Buckeye Devil
03-16-2014, 02:53 PM
Officials, poor defense, and Joe Harris will mean a Duke loss

uh_no
03-16-2014, 02:54 PM
Officials, poor defense, and Joe Harris will mean a Duke loss

isn't it odd that every tough game we've had has been because of the refs?

it's almost as if the refs were better, this team would be undefeated!

jipops
03-16-2014, 02:54 PM
cannot win this one unless the team decides it actually wants to make the sacrifice and play some defense and get stops.

The reality is we have to trade 3's for 2's.

Gthoma2a
03-16-2014, 02:54 PM
We are only shooting twos and only Parker is shooting those. No boards to speak of.

Utley
03-16-2014, 02:54 PM
danger time

sporthenry
03-16-2014, 02:55 PM
Danger time for Duke right here.

CR9
03-16-2014, 02:55 PM
Why is Marshall not playing FFS?! How many offensive rebounds is it going to take? I think that might be it.

CLW
03-16-2014, 02:55 PM
stick a fork in them they are DONE. the way we are playing now i wouldn't be surprised to see a lost in the round of 64

ChrisP
03-16-2014, 02:55 PM
The refs seem determined not to let this be a game where the haters say "Duke gets all the calls."

Exactly my thoughts. Cannot get a call going to the basket :(

striker219
03-16-2014, 02:55 PM
isn't it odd that every tough game we've had has been because of the refs?

it's almost as if the refs were better, this team would be undefeated!

Now you're getting it!

Wait, define "better".

Buckeye Devil
03-16-2014, 02:55 PM
How many points do Suilamon, Cook, and Thornton have combined?

Utley
03-16-2014, 02:56 PM
Losing this on the boards at the end. UVA also getting too good looks. Need a great last 4 minutes and Jabari will need help.

dcdrumsinc
03-16-2014, 02:57 PM
this team is no different than early in the season. as i said, 2nd or 3rd round exit. can't rebound to save it's life. unless we play plumlee a LOT more. and we all know coach k is too old school to try and mix things up

CDu
03-16-2014, 02:57 PM
Not looking good at the moment. Down 2 possessions, UVa at the line. Running out of time the way UVa plays.

We're going to have to get some stops. UVa is really good, but our defense is starting to wane again.

devilnfla
03-16-2014, 02:57 PM
Apparently Dawkins isn't allowed to miss a 3. Been benched since his 3rd attempt rimmed out. Looks like were going to need him with UVA stretching out the lead.

SCMatt33
03-16-2014, 02:57 PM
You have to get at least ONE defensive rebound. This is just pathetic. I don't know how you expect to beat tourney competition with the complete inability to play more than 30 minutes of defense in a game outside of Cameron unless the other team just implodes for you (see @Pitt, NC State)

bbosbbos
03-16-2014, 02:57 PM
They did not score that much. Amile did some. Hood disappeared most of the time.



How many points do Suilamon, Cook, and Thornton have combined?

Gthoma2a
03-16-2014, 02:57 PM
That, and we are a one man show on offense. Stop Parker and you stop us right now. He should get a touch, but it shouldn't just be hero ball for the whole possession.

gumbomoop
03-16-2014, 02:57 PM
UVA relentless on O-boards, Duke, especially Rodney, no relentless block-outs. Too much watching, rather than playing, the game. Relentlessly.

ChrisP
03-16-2014, 02:57 PM
I think Andre has to play from here on out. Need his shooting ability. Hope to see him soon.

arnie
03-16-2014, 02:57 PM
this team is no different than early in the season. as i said, 2nd or 3rd round exit. can't rebound to save it's life. unless we play plumlee a LOT more. and we all know coach k is too old school to try and mix things up

Having to play Hairston sig minutes has really hurt. Amile couldn't keep from fouling.

jsimmons
03-16-2014, 02:58 PM
We are only shooting twos and only Parker is shooting those. No boards to speak of.

That whenever thorton and jefferson are in the game our offense lags alot. Its like they are playing 3v5. That has to change going forward. Someone other than parker has to score.

J4Kop99
03-16-2014, 02:58 PM
since when did Duke teams forget to do things as simple as box out? It's unbelievable that many of the problems that troubled this Duke team early on this year are still causing major issues.

Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
03-16-2014, 02:58 PM
My god, please shut up about the refs

freshmanjs
03-16-2014, 02:59 PM
Actually I do not know what to do now.

uh, watch the game. cheer for duke?

CR9
03-16-2014, 02:59 PM
Mitchell just hammers Parker every time but nothing.

bbosbbos
03-16-2014, 02:59 PM
Actually I do not know what to do now.

dairedevil
03-16-2014, 03:00 PM
How many points do Suilamon, Cook, and Thornton have combined?

Cook is the only one with a bucket....so, 2 pts. However, they have 11 fouls. Might explain some of our difficulties if all the ball handlers are in foul trouble.

sporthenry
03-16-2014, 03:00 PM
Parker and Hood look exhausted.

Ky-Dukie
03-16-2014, 03:00 PM
Too much Thornton ! Terrible. Why do you sit Plumlee and put in Hairston ? I don't understand at all. Jones can play good first half minutes and not get a look in the 2nd half.

uh_no
03-16-2014, 03:00 PM
since when did Duke teams forget to do things as simple as box out? It's unbelievable that many of the problems that troubled this Duke team early on this year are still causing major issues.

it's mind boggling....people have been screaming here that we'd get better as the year went on...welp....we haven't....

defense is still pretty bad, rebounding isn't great, offense goes through slumps....

i'll be darned if it doesn't doom us over the next few weeks

i'm thankful that the guys are out there trying to get better...but I'm not feeling it this year (don't tell the players that though...hope they keep going at it!)

Udaman
03-16-2014, 03:01 PM
AWFUL!!!! story of our team. No getting back on d and give their best player a wide open 3

CR9
03-16-2014, 03:02 PM
This loss is all on K. Refusing to play Marshall and letting them murder Duke on the glass.

striker219
03-16-2014, 03:02 PM
Boxing out. Defense. Rebounding. It's almost as if fundamentals are important.

ChrisP
03-16-2014, 03:02 PM
Where the heck is Andre??????

Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
03-16-2014, 03:03 PM
Terrible minute. Cook misses that shot, game over. As is, still have a chance.

Udaman
03-16-2014, 03:03 PM
And blatant foul on the slap on Parker and no call.

gumbomoop
03-16-2014, 03:03 PM
Rodney ball-watching yet again, while Mitchell was playing basketball. Rodney is a fine O-threat, and good perimeter defender. But he doesn't block out.