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JBDuke
11-13-2013, 07:46 AM
Put your pre-game and in-game thoughts here.

Note that the game is this Friday, Nov 15th, at 7 pm. Looks like it will be shown on ESPN3 and on the Blue Devil Network.

CLW
11-13-2013, 08:15 AM
Obviously not the same quality opponent we just faced in Chicago but it will be interesting to see what changes (if any) K makes after last night's loss.

cbnaylor
11-13-2013, 06:39 PM
I'm just happy the game is starting at 7 instead of 10:30. ;)

Troublemaker
11-13-2013, 07:51 PM
Obviously not the same quality opponent we just faced in Chicago but it will be interesting to see what changes (if any) K makes after last night's loss.

I can't see there being any major changes this early in the season after a loss to a team just as talented in a game that could've gone either way. It's only Game #3, which means most teams are focused on getting better at what they've been doing. I do think Sulaimon will probably be in the starting lineup pretty soon, but if not, he would still play more minutes than Thornton and it would just mean that Coach K prefers Sheed off the bench for now.

Next few games, all 12 players should see action since the opponents are weak. I'm personally hoping to see MP3 play really well as part of his case for more playing time, although most of his case will be made by improving in practice behind the scenes, of course.

Would also like to see Matt Jones start to shoot the ball well to match his high school reputation. That, along with his defense that's already in place, will help him get more minutes against high-quality opponents like Kansas. If Sheed goes into the starting lineup as expected, Matt needs to become the offensive punch off the bench.

And generally speaking, would like to see the guys start to improve their team defense -- improved switching and improved big man help on opponent drives.

kAzE
11-14-2013, 04:43 AM
My wishlist for the next few games:

1. We need to learn how to play defense within these new rules. If we can limit our fouls to 20 or fewer per game, it will be a good sign that we've learned to play within this system going forward. (for reference, we committed 29 fouls against Kansas) Also, what happened to full court or 3/4 court pressure? Did we already abandon that gameplan? We need to take advantage of our personnel's strength in the transition game, so hopefully we get back to the plan and pressure ballhandlers and get into those passing lanes.

2. I want to see Cook dominate a game. Not necessarily as a scorer, but I want to see him really take a defense apart with his passing, and really pressure the ball well. A 10 assist game with very few turnovers and a couple of steals would be really encouraging. He's a junior now, it's time for him to start really asserting himself.

3. I want to see Parker close out a game strong. He's still yet to show that he can go full out for an entire game. Even at CTC, he looked like he was out of gas in the 2nd scrimmage, and he missed all of his dunks in the dunk contest. Get in better shape, we need him to be 100% late in games.

4. I want to see Ojeleye make a serious case for some playing time. I get that Hairston is our first "big" off the bench, but I just think Semi has all the tools to be the 7th or 8th guy in the rotation. He's quick, jumps high, stronger than anyone else we have, and has unlimited energy. At least defensively, his potential is as good as anyone we have. Taking charges no longer seems to be a viable strategy. We need guys who can move their feet and challenge shots without fouling. Hairston is the opposite of that.

5. Can we get Andre Dawkins sighting? I sure do miss that silky smooth stroke from deep.

jv001
11-14-2013, 09:44 AM
I can't see there being any major changes this early in the season after a loss to a team just as talented in a game that could've gone either way. It's only Game #3, which means most teams are focused on getting better at what they've been doing. I do think Sulaimon will probably be in the starting lineup pretty soon, but if not, he would still play more minutes than Thornton and it would just mean that Coach K prefers Sheed off the bench for now.

Next few games, all 12 players should see action since the opponents are weak. I'm personally hoping to see MP3 play really well as part of his case for more playing time, although most of his case will be made by improving in practice behind the scenes, of course.

Would also like to see Matt Jones start to shoot the ball well to match his high school reputation. That, along with his defense that's already in place, will help him get more minutes against high-quality opponents like Kansas. If Sheed goes into the starting lineup as expected, Matt needs to become the offensive punch off the bench.

And generally speaking, would like to see the guys start to improve their team defense -- improved switching and improved big man help on opponent drives.

I'm concerned with Matt Jones's shooting form. It looks like he's shooting the ball on the way up with more of a push motion. Players like this are prone to be inconsistent in college basketball. GoDuke!

DBFAN
11-14-2013, 11:40 AM
Quick Question. I got the one one months sub to the Blue Devil network so I could watch the exhibition games. I also went and got the Duke app so it would be easier acess. It is saying that there is only audio for this game. Is that right?? Like most Americans I can't acess ESPN3 or whatever they call it now, because my internet provider isn't one of the 5 that can view it. I am starting to get real bummed

David Bunkley
11-14-2013, 11:48 AM
Can't wait!!! GO DUKE!!!

-jk
11-14-2013, 12:11 PM
Quick Question. I got the one one months sub to the Blue Devil network so I could watch the exhibition games. I also went and got the Duke app so it would be easier acess. It is saying that there is only audio for this game. Is that right?? Like most Americans I can't acess ESPN3 or whatever they call it now, because my internet provider isn't one of the 5 that can view it. I am starting to get real bummed

Live sports is all Big Cable has left for leverage. They'll milk it for everything they can.

Otherwise, there are all sorts of virus-laden bootleg streaming sites out there - be careful!

-jk

moonpie23
11-14-2013, 02:25 PM
I'm just happy the game is starting at 7 instead of 10:30. ;)

i wish the game was starting at 10:30……I've got date night…

TruBlu
11-14-2013, 04:02 PM
i wish the game was starting at 10:30……I've got date night…

Duke Basketball in Cameron is perfectly acceptable for date night. My wife might disagree, but she can disagree on the way home from the game.

If you are not attending the game in person, a sports bar could also be an acceptable location for date night.

flyingdutchdevil
11-14-2013, 04:07 PM
Loss to a tough opponent? Check

A few players with chips on their shoulder (Cook, Hood)? Check

Playing at home? Check

Players dying to prove themselves (Murphy, Andre, MP3)? Check


I don't want to be Florida Atlantic on Friday. Had Duke beat Kansas, Duke would still be favored, but at least Duke wouldn't have red in their eyes.

Now, oh boy. Ohhhhhhhhhhh boy.

Ichabod Drain
11-14-2013, 04:12 PM
Loss to a tough opponent? Check

A few players with chips on their shoulder (Cook, Hood)? Check

Playing at home? Check

Players dying to prove themselves (Murphy, Andre, MP3)? Check


I don't want to be Florida Atlantic on Friday. Had Duke beat Kansas, Duke would still be favored, but at least Duke wouldn't have red in their eyes.

Now, oh boy. Ohhhhhhhhhhh boy.

I could tell in Jabari's post game he was seriously agitated about losing. It might get ugly... for Florida Atlantic that is... you know

dukebballcamper90-91
11-14-2013, 04:53 PM
Hey jv001, I was concerned with Rivers form until he hit "the shot".

mattman91
11-14-2013, 04:56 PM
I'm in need of some clarifications...I'm a subscriber of BDN, but there will only be audio available for this game? I thought they covered all Games that are not televised with video and audio? I don't consider ESPN3 "television". I will be working a little later Friday night and will not be able to watch it live, so i was anticipating on catching the full replay on BDN, but that's apparently not an Option. Will the ESPN3 replay be available immediately after the original broadcast?

Kedsy
11-14-2013, 05:12 PM
Will the ESPN3 replay be available immediately after the original broadcast?

Last season, it usually seemed to be available around an hour after the game ended, but that wasn't a hard-and-fast rule.

bbosbbos
11-14-2013, 07:41 PM
I have DirecTV. Seems that our game will not be on any channel. :mad:

kAzE
11-14-2013, 08:56 PM
It's going to broadcast live on ESPN3, is it not?

Potato Head
11-14-2013, 09:12 PM
I get that Hairston is our first "big" off the bench, but I just think Semi has all the tools to be the 7th or 8th guy in the rotation. He's quick, jumps high, stronger than anyone else we have, and has unlimited energy. At least defensively, his potential is as good as anyone we have. Taking charges no longer seems to be a viable strategy. We need guys who can move their feet and challenge shots without fouling. Hairston is the opposite of that.

I'd like to give Plumlee more minutes. I know he still plays a bit like a bull in a china shop, but he's also the only player on our roster who can protect the rim. Assuming the NCAA gets their way and drivers can get into the paint whenever they want, having shot blockers is going to become even more valuable.

kAzE
11-14-2013, 09:53 PM
I'd like to give Plumlee more minutes. I know he still plays a bit like a bull in a china shop, but he's also the only player on our roster who can protect the rim. Assuming the NCAA gets their way and drivers can get into the paint whenever they want, having shot blockers is going to become even more valuable.

Agreed, he's also a better option than Hairston at this point, but with Plumlee, you have to worry about him being a walking turnover on the offensive end. He's got size working to his advantage, though, and if he could just calm down a bit, he could be really good. I think he takes being an energy guy WAY too seriously.

gep
11-14-2013, 11:27 PM
Agreed, he's also a better option than Hairston at this point, but with Plumlee, you have to worry about him being a walking turnover on the offensive end. He's got size working to his advantage, though, and if he could just calm down a bit, he could be really good. I think he takes being an energy guy WAY too seriously.

Funny... I couldn't put my finger on it till you mentioned it. He's just gotta slow down and play the game. But, I noticed in the Kansas game (assuming I can even notice, given being a very novice fan), MP3 seems to always look for the block-out when a shot goes up at either end, which is I think a good "first start"...:cool:

Cameron
11-15-2013, 03:59 PM
Maddening that this game will not be carried by ESPN Full Court. I hate ESPN3. My internet service provider doesn't carry it and I want to watch the game on television.

Oh well. Looks like I will follow it on gamecast.

bbosbbos
11-15-2013, 04:02 PM
Time Warner Cable does not have ESPN3 for our community in Cary, NC. :mad:


Maddening that this game will not be carried by ESPN Full Court. I hate ESPN3. My internet service provider doesn't carry it and I want to watch the game on television.

Oh well. Looks like I will follow it on gamecast.

duke4ever19
11-15-2013, 05:26 PM
Live sports is all Big Cable has left for leverage. They'll milk it for everything they can.

Otherwise, there are all sorts of virus-laden bootleg streaming sites out there - be careful!

-jk

I've had good/safe experiences using a combination of adblock and watching the games on freevip.eu. In fact, I don't even own a TV and I see every Duke game. I also can go to the small gym near my house and watch the game while walking very slowly:)

But the aforementioned site is definitely carrying the game tonight.

riverside6
11-15-2013, 06:47 PM
Live tempo based stats for the game here

http://www.scacchoops.com/ViewHDGame.asp?hSchedule=19864

Sulaimon back in the starting lineup.

TheDuckStore
11-15-2013, 07:14 PM
Dawkins checks in at 15 minute mark... I'm hoping for a few bombs

duke4ever19
11-15-2013, 07:17 PM
Dawkins checks in at 15 minute mark... I'm hoping for a few bombs

There's one for you:)

Gthoma2a
11-15-2013, 07:18 PM
Dawkins checks in at 15 minute mark... I'm hoping for a few bombs

Hope no more

Furniture
11-15-2013, 07:20 PM
Got to be on tv somewhere....

Gthoma2a
11-15-2013, 07:20 PM
Rebounding is not looking like something we have buckled down to improve enough. I keep hearing the name Raffington.

duke4ever19
11-15-2013, 07:21 PM
Got to be on tv somewhere....

http://vipbox.co/basketball/watch-12e448-florida-atlantic-4-duke

duke4ever19
11-15-2013, 07:25 PM
Semi in the game. Wanna see him get us some boards.

Gthoma2a
11-15-2013, 07:27 PM
Semi in the game. Wanna see him get us some boards.

I'm listening, so I want to hear him dunk it hard enough to make Hairston scream like in the practice alley-oop video.

duke4ever19
11-15-2013, 07:31 PM
Hood is definitely asserting himself in this one. 14 points.

dukelifer
11-15-2013, 07:33 PM
Hood is definitely asserting himself in this one. 14 points.

Needs to be a habit - nice to see

4Gen
11-15-2013, 07:33 PM
I live in Mount Olive, 90 miles from Durham, and we don't even have radio coverage. It's frustrating after a game (hoops or otherwise) not to be able to hear pregame and post-game commentary. I know Duke can do better than that.

TheDuckStore
11-15-2013, 07:34 PM
Feels like the refs are letting both squads play more aggressive D. A few times Duke players have had panicked reactions anticipating a whistle after putting their hands on an offensive player only to be met with silence. Thornton even took a charge!

Watching Hood play so aggressively tonight (and making his FTs), makes me feel like it was a mental aberration in Chicago -- someone made the comment that it was his first big time game. He is really impressive.

FerryFor50
11-15-2013, 07:36 PM
I'm just glad we are hitting FTs...

roywhite
11-15-2013, 07:38 PM
http://vipbox.co/basketball/watch-12e448-florida-atlantic-4-duke

Went there and got a virus warning on a download.

I'm going Gametracker.

duke4ever19
11-15-2013, 07:41 PM
Went there and got a virus warning on a download.

I'm going Gametracker.

Yeah, I posted earlier that you definitely need adblock and a good virus program.
You shouldn't have to download anything either. Not sure if it was asking you to, though.

Furniture
11-15-2013, 07:41 PM
http://vipbox.co/basketball/watch-12e448-florida-atlantic-4-duke

Thanks. Still having problems though. I get advertisement windows covering the picture.....;-/

duke4ever19
11-15-2013, 07:43 PM
Dawkins is on fire!!!!

rhynelander
11-15-2013, 07:44 PM
Andre is heating up!!!

dukelifer
11-15-2013, 07:44 PM
Andre is heating up!!!

An elite shooter. So nice to see that smile

mr. synellinden
11-15-2013, 07:45 PM
I don't know which YES! was louder. The Okafor/Jones announcement, or that third three pointer by Dawkins.

How'd you like that smile by Andre after?

duke4ever19
11-15-2013, 07:49 PM
That was fun half of basketball. 52-29 Duke!
Rather quick half too, compared to the foul-athons we've seen lately.

NYBri
11-15-2013, 07:51 PM
Minutes being distributed. Dre getting tick tocks. I love this team!

Potato Head
11-15-2013, 07:55 PM
I wonder if Dawkins not playing early was more a product of Coach K not wanting to throw a kid who had just sat out an entire season into Duke/Kansas on ESPN, and instead work him back in slowly against some of these minnow teams.

Troublemaker
11-15-2013, 07:56 PM
So nice to see that smile

Indeed, great to see!

FerryFor50
11-15-2013, 07:57 PM
I wonder if Dawkins not playing early was more a product of Coach K not wanting to throw a kid who had just sat out an entire season into Duke/Kansas on ESPN, and instead work him back in slowly against some of these minnow teams.

Seth Davis tweeted that is was due to being limited by a bruised tailbone...

duke4ever19
11-15-2013, 08:07 PM
Diving for loose balls. They are definitely getting after it tonight. 5-second call.

Grey Devil
11-15-2013, 08:08 PM
Thanks. Still having problems though. I get advertisement windows covering the picture.....;-/

I Googled Genieo and found this (for Macs, dunno about PCs):

http://www.thesafemac.com/malicious-genieo-installers-persist/

I would advise that you stay away from it!

Grey Devil

duke4ever19
11-15-2013, 08:13 PM
I Googled Genieo and found this (for Macs, dunno about PCs):

http://www.thesafemac.com/malicious-genieo-installers-persist/

I would advise that you stay away from it!

Grey Devil

Good advice. You should never have to download anything on these sites. I'm not getting the download ad myself but you definitely should steer clear of any site asking you to do so.

duke4ever19
11-15-2013, 08:16 PM
Nice to see Plumlee get some minutes tonight. Hope he can figure a few things out.

TheDuckStore
11-15-2013, 08:23 PM
Dino Gaudio just said "Marshall is the future of the post for Duke"... guess he hasn't heard the news.

As for the game: Rodney just self-ooped... awesome

Cameron
11-15-2013, 08:26 PM
Dino Gaudio just said "Marshall is the future of the post for Duke"... guess he hasn't heard the news.

As for the game: Rodney just self-ooped... awesome

For those of us stuck in the dark ages, do you mean he pulled an Iverson and tossed it to himself in mid-air under the arm? Or a T-Mac off the glass?

TheDuckStore
11-15-2013, 08:28 PM
For those of us stuck in the dark ages, do you mean he pulled an Iverson and tossed it to himself in mid-air under the arm? Or a T-Mac off the glass?

I embellished... he took a contested layup, landed, jumped right back up and dunked his own miss. Still an impressive play.

rsvman
11-15-2013, 08:29 PM
He missed a shot and then slammed home the rebound. It was pretty sweet.

Ggallagher
11-15-2013, 08:30 PM
For those of us stuck in the dark ages, do you mean he pulled an Iverson and tossed it to himself in mid-air under the arm? Or a T-Mac off the glass?

It was a contested shot at the basket that came off the rim. Rodney went right back up and jammed it through. Looked great.

dukelifer
11-15-2013, 08:30 PM
Dino Gaudio just said "Marshall is the future of the post for Duke"... guess he hasn't heard the news.

As for the game: Rodney just self-ooped... awesome

He is the future - just after next year

millerecu
11-15-2013, 08:32 PM
Is it possible to watch the game anywhere after its over?

duke4ever19
11-15-2013, 08:33 PM
Dawkins is just lethal tonight.

Cameron
11-15-2013, 08:35 PM
I embellished... he took a contested layup, landed, jumped right back up and dunked his own miss. Still an impressive play.

LOL.

Cameron
11-15-2013, 08:36 PM
Dawkins is just lethal tonight.

This makes me both happy and sad (that I can't see it).

So glad for Dre. Hopefully, this is the beginning of a great season for the kid.

Ggallagher
11-15-2013, 08:39 PM
This makes me both happy and sad (that I can't see it).

So glad for Dre. Hopefully, this is the beginning of a great season for the kid.

Try to stay on the happy side. You know what that smile looks like and we're seeing a lot of it tonight.
Keep it up Dre.

duke4ever19
11-15-2013, 08:41 PM
This makes me both happy and sad (that I can't see it).

So glad for Dre. Hopefully, this is the beginning of a great season for the kid.

Is ESPN3 blacked out for you? It's definitely playing there (and no viruses!).

Cameron
11-15-2013, 08:46 PM
Is ESPN3 blacked out for you? It's definitely playing there (and no viruses!).

My internet provider (Embarq) doesn't provide it.

roywhite
11-15-2013, 08:46 PM
He is the future - just after next year

At which point, Marshall will be a senior. At some point, he needs to step up.

NYBri
11-15-2013, 08:49 PM
Lots of strange lineups. Good to see. Parker with 21!

Ggallagher
11-15-2013, 08:49 PM
For those of you not able to watch, Parker just became Duke's first freshman to score twenty points in his first three games.