MBB: Drury Pre-game and In-game Thread

[MChambers]

Can't believe no one's started this yet, so I will. 1 p.m. Saturday, November 2, at Cameron.

Duke continues its practice of scheduling the reigning Division II championship program. Drury is apparently a small team, which means that Duke should have an advantage inside, but it may make pressuring Drury difficult.

I'm looking for an improvement in defense from the Bowie State exhibition.

[Billy Dat]

-Another game to watch the competition for playing time among Andre, Matt Jones and Rasheed

-Are Jabari and Hood going to continue to impose their will on opposing defenses? With Drury being small, will Jabari adjust and punish them on the block?

-Against a small and quick team, will we still be able to play pressure D (as stated by MChambers). Related to this point, are the new hand check rules going to make it really hard to play effective extended pressure D on the perimeter? Will that kind of extended pressure necessitate more quick traps rather than one-on-one "in your jock" pressure?

-What kind of line-ups will we see? Small vs Small, Big vs Small, etc?

I am looking forward to it and highly recommend the stream into the laptop that is connected to your larger TV solution.

[kAzE]

I'm not even sure playing time in the exhibition games is a reliable indicator of regular season minutes. If I recall correctly, didn't Alex Murphy start each preseason game last year, only to end up near the end of the bench for the rest of the year? I Still think Rasheed is the main guy between the 3 of them, but I guess we'll find out.

[FireOgilvie]

Former "The Price is Right" host Bob Barker attended Drury College on a basketball scholarship. After serving in WWII as a fighter pilot, he returned and graduated summa cum laude with a degree in economics.

Drury College became Drury University on January 1, 2000.

[JBDuke]

The game is at 1 pm today. The goduke.com link for pre-game info, including instructions on how to sign up for the Blue Devil Network, which is the only watch to watch/listen to the game, is here: http://www.goduke.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=4200&SPID=1845&SPSID=22726

[mattman91]

headed east on 40 from Asheville... section 17 :). I've been to many games in Cameron, but never sat in 17. How early should I arrive to get a good seat (or stand)?

[4Gen]

This is slightly off topic, but ole Roy said his exhibition was "just a glorified practice session, with absolutely no disrespect to Pembroke." Can anyone imagine Coach K making a similar statement?

[wgl1228]

Does the Blue Devil Network still have the game available to watch after its completion? I won 't be home until tonight.

[Ggallagher]

Does the Blue Devil Network still have the game available to watch after its completion? I won 't be home until tonight.

They do have the full game replay of the Bowie State game available now, so I would assume they'll also do that for the Drury game.

[wk2109]

I'm not even sure playing time in the exhibition games is a reliable indicator of regular season minutes. If I recall correctly, didn't Alex Murphy start each preseason game last year, only to end up near the end of the bench for the rest of the year? I Still think Rasheed is the main guy between the 3 of them, but I guess we'll find out.

I agree that it'll be Rasheed. If it's not though, wouldn't it be a good sign that Andre or Matt is able to 'beat out' a returning starter from a really really good '12-'13 team? (I still believe that Duke would have been a #1 seed--likely the overall #1--and perhaps won the whole thing had Ryan not gotten hurt.) And it's not like Rasheed was a throwaway starter either--he had a key defensive role and carried the team offensively on multiple occasions. If a guy like that has to come off the bench this year, Duke is in for a very good year.

[BD80]

Former "The Price is Right" host Bob Barker attended Drury College on a basketball scholarship. After serving in WWII as a fighter pilot, he returned and graduated summa cum laude with a degree in economics.

Drury College became Drury University on January 1, 2000.

I guess that explains what one does with a degree in economics ...

[moonpie23]

too bad you can't just watch ONE game…. :( looks like you have to sign up for a year….

[Furniture]

I signed up for a month. 10 bucks....

[weezie]

This is slightly off topic, but ole Roy said his exhibition was "just a glorified practice session, with absolutely no disrespect to Pembroke." Can anyone imagine Coach K making a similar statement?

Nope, nobody but our roy could come up with a proclamation like that. He's simply the best hick on that hill.

[davekay1971]

I guess that explains what one does with a degree in economics ...

That's about right. I majored in economics at Duke and use what I learned in that major exactly never in my current employment.

FWIW: Bob got the better job out of his degree. I don't get to whip Adam Sandler's butt on screen in my job.

[riverside6]

Live tempo-based stats for Drury/Duke, starters are posted...

http://www.scacchoops.com/ViewHDGame.asp?hSchedule=20243

Thornton starting in the backcourt with Cook today.

[Dukehky]

Is Thornton our most consistent 3-point shooter who can play defense? Maybe....

[TheDuckStore]

Former "The Price is Right" host Bob Barker attended Drury College on a basketball scholarship. After serving in WWII as a fighter pilot, he returned and graduated summa cum laude with a degree in economics.

Drury College became Drury University on January 1, 2000.

Great sign in the stands: "The Price is Wrong Drury"

[Gthoma2a]

No Rasheed so far. We have seen some good D from both Jones and Dre so far. Jones' caused a turnover, Dre's just became a poke out of bounds. Drury has been outrebounding us a bit. Semi is in, so we'll see how that changes. Interior D has been pretty weak so far. Jabari just got beat by his man for an easy two. Drury leads. Ojeleye has his highlight off of a rebound that was clanging off. It was great! A 3 by Drury. We are down again, this time by 3. I should mention that Semi also got dunked on, but went up and contested it. That was a couple of plays ago, though. We don't look like we have found a way to play a running style, yet.

One note on Semi, he stays in front of people, even from out on the perimeter on a drive, but he needs to be more aggressive. He had good position, but didn't go after the shot on a floater for Drury. We have gotten the lead back, though.

[DBFAN]

Defense looks confused. No rhythm on offense, I assume that is due to K stuff tweaking things. I hate to say this by I don't see much improvement from Cook.

[DBFAN]

Up by 1 with 8 to go. Having a hard time defending the perimeter. Not really worried about this game per say, just hope we start to gel a little more before reg season games start

[Dukehky]

Defense looks confused. No rhythm on offense, I assume that is due to K stuff tweaking things. I hate to say this by I don't see much improvement from Cook.

To be fair to Quinn. I think he's doing a little too much to try and get all these new pieces involved. That is my take on his play so far, hence why he may not look as sharp as he did last year. It's also a lot easier to look good when all you have to do is get the ball to Seth who's going to make a 3 or down low to Mason, this offense has a lot more moving pieces that he has to pay attention to.

[Gthoma2a]

Defense looks confused. No rhythm on offense, I assume that is due to K stuff tweaking things. I hate to say this by I don't see much improvement from Cook.

That may be why we are seeing Thornton, too. I say that, but Cook hasn't been the problem (he did get the run-out basket). I think our problem is we aren't closing on the interior (you can't stay in front of your man AND miss the angle when there is nobody behind your man).

[Gthoma2a]

Up by 1 with 8 to go. Having a hard time defending the perimeter. Not really worried about this game per say, just hope we start to gel a little more before reg season games start

We need to do it by the 12th.

Good play from Cook right now on both ends. He isn't the problem. The interior seems to be struggling. In comes Plumlee.

[jipops]

Atleast it doesn't appear we've peaked too early.

[JPtheGame]

If Marshall Plumlee cant make a difference in this game being a foot taller than anyone guarding him, then he may be hard pressed to find a meaningful role this year. I like Marshall so Im very interested to see what he does today.

[Bay Area Duke Fan]

Where is he?

[duke4ever19]

No one over 6'6 for Drury?

Hey, Marshall, stand right there under the basket :)

[gwlaw99]

Not a lot of ball movement on the perimeter.

[Gthoma2a]

Where is he?

I wasn't expecting him to be out of the game completely, but it looks like that may be the case for today.

[duke4ever19]

Once again, seeing a lot of Jones, not so much of Dawkins.

[Gthoma2a]

Once again, seeing a lot of Jones, not so much of Dawkins.

True. I just hope we see some shots go down. This is getting embarrassing. Jabari has been a non-factor so far. Down by 6 and we are shooting under 50%.

[duke4ever19]

Drury might go into the half with the lead. Up by 6 with 1:16 left.

[deezl]

The game is at 1 pm today. The goduke.com link for pre-game info, including instructions on how to sign up for the Blue Devil Network, which is the only watch to watch/listen to the game, is here: http://www.goduke.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=4200&SPID=1845&SPSID=22726

You can listen to the game for free on 104.5 WCCG. Also, streams online so you can listen anywhere - http://www.wccg1045fm.com/

[duke4ever19]

Duke closes in on Drury, but a last second basket gives Drury a 4-point lead at the half.

[slower]

You can listen to the game for free on 104.5 WCCG. Also, streams online so you can listen anywhere - http://www.wccg1045fm.com/

Thanks, but no thanks. It's painful to even look at the stats. What a disgrace.

And before anybody jumps on me, this a TOP 5 team we're supposed to have here. Gimme a break.

[Gthoma2a]

I did not expect a team that was, at the most, 6'7 to dominate us on the inside. They are getting all of the easy points they can grab off of put-backs and just passes to the interior. Time or K to light a fire at halftime. The half can't end fast enough for me. I want redemption.

[duke4ever19]

Thanks, but no thanks. It's painful to even look at the stats. What a disgrace.

And before anybody jumps on me, this a TOP 5 team we're supposed to have here. Gimme a break.

I just have to remind myself of this... http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4620949

[sagegrouse]

Thanks, but no thanks. It's painful to even look at the stats. What a disgrace.

And before anybody jumps on me, this a TOP 5 team we're supposed to have here. Gimme a break.

So you're quitting on the team in the first half of the second exhibition? Or, do I misunderstand you?

sagegrouse

[JPtheGame]

A good lesson on the value of ball movement. The ball never stops for drury and consequently, they are getting a ton of open looks. Every shot for Duke is contested and that says more about Dukes lack of ball movement rather than Drury's defensive effort.

[slower]

So you're quitting on the team in the first half of the second exhibition? Or, do I misunderstand you?

sagegrouse

I'm not "quitting" on them. I'm saying that this (by all online appearances) is a miserable showing by a Top 5 team. Are you implying that it's okay? Or do I misunderstand YOU?

[duke4ever19]

Drury is giving our guys a tough time, which is exactly what they need going into the next couple weeks.

[Dr. Rosenrosen]

Ouch. At the game and just waiting for Drury fans to start chanting Football School...

[sagegrouse]

I'm not "quitting" on them. I'm saying that this (by all online appearances) is a miserable showing by a Top 5 team. Are you implying that it's okay? Or do I misunderstand YOU?

It's an exhibition game. -- sagegrouse

[loran16]

It's an exhibition game. -- sagegrouse

It's worth noting that we usually win exhibition games by 30-50 points easy, so while yes - it doesn't matter - it is worrisome for Duke. Duke isn't usually a slow starter team.

[Dukehky]

It's an exhibition game. -- sagegrouse

Alright everybody, deep breath. I agree with slower that this was a terrible half in just about every area. Bad halves happen, bad games shouldn't against a D-II team. Let's see how Duke responds in the second half before it comes to fisticuffs. Or wordicuffs?

[duke4ever19]

Hood is just so smooth.

[devildeac]

unconfirmed rumors of large amount of benches and chairs outside home locker room at CIS at the half. Along with several 5 gallon buckets of paint being delivered...

[Dukehky]

unconfirmed rumors of large amount of benches and chairs outside home locker room at CIS at the half. Along with several 5 gallon buckets of paint being delivered...

I'm sure this is clever/meaningful or both but can I get an explanation?

[duke4ever19]

It looks like Hood is the only one who brought his shooting touch today. We are missing some point blank put-backs in the paint.

[NashvilleDevil]

I'm sure this is clever/meaningful or both but can I get an explanation?

It means K moved some furniture and peeled some paint during his halftime discussion with the young men wearing Duke uniforms.

[sagegrouse]

Is there a site for the running stats of the game?

sage

[Steven43]

Jabari looks a bit off. He's shown flashes, though. Hood has been excellent on both ends. Cook just made a ridulous lefty pass from the top of the key towards the interior and it was easily picked off.

[devildeac]

I'm sure this is clever/meaningful or both but can I get an explanation?

K has been known to remove locker room furniture and names from lockers after remarkably poor performances in the past (well, once or twice perhaps). The need to re-paint a locker room after a half-time blistering by the coach is merely sports jargon.

[davekay1971]

Is there a site for the running stats of the game?

sage

goduke.com has a link to live stats

[Waynne]

Is there a site for the running stats of the game?

sage

Yes, but you may not want to see them- SCACCHoops.com.

[jipops]

Jabari looks a bit off. He's shown flashes, though. Hood has been excellent on both ends. Cook just made a ridulous lefty pass from the top of the key towards the interior and it was easily picked off.

Everybody looks off, except Hood

[FerryFor50]

goduke.com has a link to live stats

There's also SCACC:
http://www.scacchoops.com/ViewHDGame.asp?hSchedule=20243&bView=0

[devildeac]

It means K moved some furniture and peeled some paint during his halftime discussion with the young men wearing Duke uniforms.

Thanks. Beat me to it.

[bob blue devil]

It's worth noting that we usually win exhibition games by 30-50 points easy, so while yes - it doesn't matter - it is worrisome for Duke. Duke isn't usually a slow starter team.

I agree it is a bit worrisome, but isn't Drury better than your typical exhibition opponent?

[duke4ever19]

Looks like Duke is trying to pull away... finally.

[devildeac]

I agree it is a bit worrisome, but isn't Drury better than your typical exhibition opponent?

We've played the D2 champs the following season for several years now and, IIRC, loran is right that we usually win by 30+ points.

[jipops]

K making a major point sitting Sheed and Dre. And they are the first ones out to hi five the others

[duke4ever19]

This Drury team is not a bit afraid of Duke.

[Gthoma2a]

Jones looks nice. He is going to be pretty good. Semi needs to get meaner. Getting bumped like that shouldn't move him. He needs to play with an edge.

[Steven43]

Dawkins has played some. Why isn't Rasheed playing?

[Gthoma2a]

K making a major point sitting Sheed and Dre. And they are the first ones out to hi five the others

I don't fully understand the 3 guard lineup, but I can appreciate that Matt is likely the most consistent performer right now.

[devildeac]

Jones looks nice. He is going to be pretty good. Semi needs to get meaner. Getting bumped like that shouldn't move him. He needs to play with an edge.

He's 6'7" and about 235. It should take a large earth mover to dislodge him once he establishes position. (attempt at humor, not meant as criticism of Semi:o)

[duke4ever19]

Semi-Truck Ojeleye

[Steven43]

Jones just made a fantastic fast break behind-the-back dribble and acrobatic lay-in. Wow.

[duke4ever19]

I think I like this Jones kid.

[Gthoma2a]

Jones is VERY underrated. Looking at his rating from ESPN, they are nuts.

Back on Semi, I think, like every Hulk, you need to get him angry.

Quinn has started to come to life. Phantom foul takes him out. Sold drama department at Drury (based on that sell).

[Kedsy]

We've played the D2 champs the following season for several years now and, IIRC, loran is right that we usually win by 30+ points.

Not exactly:

2012-13: Beat Western Washington by 18 (up 15 at half)
2011-12: Beat Bellarmine by 25 (up 5 at half)
2010-11: Beat Cal-Poly Pomona by 21 (up 6 at half)
2009-10: Beat Findlay by 36 (up 13 at half)

So, only one of those four games was a win by 30+ points, and two of them were two-possession games at halftime.

[Kedsy]

Amile Jefferson tied for team lead in assists???

[Gthoma2a]

Amile Jefferson tied for team lead in assists???

If we were on IC, you'd start hearing how he must be the greatest interior passer in the world, ala fatty ( their appraisal of Kennedy Meeks after he gets more passes than their sorry PG).

[duke4ever19]

Wow. Great ball distribution on that Parker dunk.

[Steven43]

Jabari really coming to life. Looking more assertive.

[Gthoma2a]

Who would have thought our best 3-point shooter would be Tyler? I didn't believe it until now... Quinn is right up there, too. Makes it a little depressing that they play the same position.

[jipops]

Amile having a very nice half

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

Not exactly:

2012-13: Beat Western Washington by 18 (up 15 at half)
2011-12: Beat Bellarmine by 25 (up 5 at half)
2010-11: Beat Cal-Poly Pomona by 21 (up 6 at half)
2009-10: Beat Findlay by 36 (up 13 at half)

So, only one of those four games was a win by 30+ points, and two of them were two-possession games at halftime.

Why must you ruin every argument with these "facts" of yours? That's not what the internet was designed for!

[Kedsy]

Yikes, we're 13 for 26 from the line.

[jv001]

I love Bob Harris, but he's having a hard time with players names in this game. Getting used to the new guys is not as easy as it seems. GoBob and GoDuke!

[duke4ever19]

Yikes, we're 13 for 26 from the line.

If people complain if/when we don't beat Drury by 20+ then we know where the missing points can be found.

[jv001]

Yikes, we're 13 for 26 from the line.

I've been listening to the game and knew we were bad from the line, but I didn't know it was that bad. Need to tighten up that in practice. GoDuke!

[deezl]

Wow 16 boards for Amile, he has the windex out today!

[azzefkram]

Why must you ruin every argument with these "facts" of yours? That's not what the internet was designed for!

Yeah Kedsy's super annoying that way. He often engages in rational discourse and presents well thought out positions as well. The man's mad, I tell you, mad.

[jipops]

Wow 16 boards for Amile, he has the windex out today!

He got 7 of those in about a 6 minute span