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CameronBornAndBred
06-04-2013, 02:58 PM
I had a headache before I tried to make sense of this, now it is worse.

The criteria used to develop the schedule includes the following:


1. Each ACC school will play eight conference games annually, four at home and four on the road.


2. Each ACC school will play three home divisional games and three on the road.


3. Each ACC school will play one home cross divisional game and one road cross divisional game. When schools will play their permanent crossover opponent at home, they will play their rotating crossover opponent on the road and vice versa.


4. Within each division, all teams will either play all of their primary crossover games at home or away in a given year with all of the rotating crossover opponents all played at home or away.


5. Each ACC school will play all of their rotating crossover opponents twice during the 12-year rotation, once at home and once on the road, but not consecutively.
http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/56234/acc-sets-rotating-crossover-opponent-sked


The schedule is here....
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/acc/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2012-13/misc_non_event/accfb-opponents-2014-2024-text.pdf

Nugget
06-04-2013, 03:09 PM
Awesome. After this year we play NC State 1 time over the next 11 seasons. Love expansion.

Rather than these goofy divisions, wouldn't it have been better to go with this:

1. Duke
2. N. Carolina
3. N.C. St.
4. Wake Forest
5. Clemson
6. Georgia Tech
7. Virginia.

1. Syracuse
2. BC
3. Pitt
4. Va Tech
5. Louisville
6. Miami
7. Florida St.

And to make it easy, they could be named "ACC" and "Old Big East"?
3.

CameronBornAndBred
06-04-2013, 03:24 PM
Awesome. After this year we play NC State 1 time over the next 11 seasons. Love expansion.

We can play them more often, we just need to both get to the title game. :cool:

Duvall
06-04-2013, 03:27 PM
Awesome. After this year we play NC State 1 time over the next 11 seasons. Love expansion.

Rather than these goofy divisions, wouldn't it have been better to go with this:

1. Duke
2. N. Carolina
3. N.C. St.
4. Wake Forest
5. Clemson
6. Georgia Tech
7. Virginia.

1. Syracuse
2. BC
3. Pitt
4. Va Tech
5. Louisville
6. Miami
7. Florida St.

And to make it easy, they could be named "ACC" and "Old Big East"?
3.

Chances of finding 11 votes for that (or 8) are pretty slim.

BigWayne
06-04-2013, 03:48 PM
I had a headache before I tried to make sense of this, now it is worse.

http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/56234/acc-sets-rotating-crossover-opponent-sked


The schedule is here....
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/acc/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2012-13/misc_non_event/accfb-opponents-2014-2024-text.pdf

Don't know why they put in rule 3 and 4. Must make it somehow easier to figure out the schedules.

Big plus to this is we never have to play FSU and Clemson the same year.

Bob Green
06-04-2013, 04:09 PM
Clemson and FSU are positioned to be the ACC power teams the next few seasons so it is nice to have both of them off our schedule the next four seasons except when we meet one of them in the ACC Championship game! :cool:

sagegrouse
06-04-2013, 04:25 PM
Don't know why they put in rule 3 and 4. Must make it somehow easier to figure out the schedules.

Big plus to this is we never have to play FSU and Clemson the same year.

I'll bet that both rules are necessary to make scheduling mathematically possible in a league with two seven-team divisions.

sagegrouse

devildeac
06-04-2013, 07:06 PM
Clemson and FSU are positioned to be the ACC power teams the next few seasons so it is nice to have both of them off our schedule the next four seasons except when we meet one of them in the ACC Championship game! :cool:

Would be nice to have maryland on the schedule a time or two while their FB program is down.

Oh, wait a minute. Never mind. Adios, terps!

-bdbd
06-04-2013, 07:08 PM
Clemson and FSU are positioned to be the ACC power teams the next few seasons so it is nice to have both of them off our schedule the next four seasons except when we meet one of them in the ACC Championship game! :cool:


Lots of people really don't pay attention to this sort of thing, but this sort of scheduling plan is really important to schools like ours that are going to (hopefully) be perpetually skirting the jagged edge of qualifying for bowls. Getting opponents like Pitt and State instead of FSU and Clemson means, if you're weighting probabilities, at least one (and probably a little more than one) added victory expectation each year. Stated another way, playing a couple teams where you might expect to win one time in ten tries, versus a pair that are both, essentially, 50/50 coin tosses each year, will more often than not be the difference between getting into bowls and NOT getting into any.

Next year is very promising in this regard. And the plan laid out above seems pretty even/balanced all around.

BigWayne
06-05-2013, 10:40 PM
A nice graphical version of the schedule rotation is shown here: http://www.fbschedules.com/2013/06/acc-announces-future-football-schedule-rotation-through-2024/

Looking it over this way, it seems like 2019 and 2020 should be swapped. Of course, odds of everything staying exactly the same until then are less than 100%.

throatybeard
06-06-2013, 01:40 AM
Where does Our Lady of Northern Indiana fit into this calculus?

Dev11
06-06-2013, 09:22 AM
Where does Our Lady of Northern Indiana fit into this calculus?

She makes rotating visits and takes rotating visitors, 5 total visits each year. The way the schedule is written, every ACC team plays Notre Dame more often than they play their non-permanent rivals in the opposing division, and the games between Notre Dame and another ACC team do not count in conference standings.

MulletMan
06-06-2013, 09:24 AM
Don't know why they put in rule 3 and 4. Must make it somehow easier to figure out the schedules.

Big plus to this is we never have to play FSU and Clemson the same year.

I think the idea is that you each team will play the same number of home and road games within the conference schedule each season. Without that stipulation, one could see a scenario where a team ends up with 5 home games and 3 away, or vice versa. It also might help with the qualitative equality of schedules, i.e. all team in one division play one home and one away game against the other division... not 2 home or 2 away.

PSurprise
06-06-2013, 10:30 AM
I think every team should just do it the Powerball way and pull out ping pong balls every year to see who they're playing. That would make it much more exciting and a lot less confusing! :)