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ACCBBallFan
04-21-2012, 10:07 AM
Alex Schwartz þ @NorthstarBball


RT @GoodmanCBS: Roscoe Smith gets his release from UConn, his father told CBSSports.

On UCONN roster, listed as 6' 8" 205 formerly a 2010 prospect of Duke, Gtown and Florida and others besides UCONN from Oak Hill Academy

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball

APR and no post-season play ban taking its toll.

Unlike Oriakhi, my guess is Roscoe would have to sit a year.

devildeac
04-21-2012, 10:21 AM
Alex Schwartz þ @NorthstarBball


RT @GoodmanCBS: Roscoe Smith gets his release from UConn, his father told CBSSports.

On UCONN roster, listed as 6' 8" 205 formerly a 2010 prospect of Duke, Gtown and Florida and others besides UCONN from Oak Hill Academy

Put him on our list;)!

Perhaps Wake and uCon could combine their depleted rosters for the 2012-13 season and field a team, maybe calling themselves the Convicted Deacons or the Demon Huskies:rolleyes::o.

tommy
04-21-2012, 10:50 AM
Has K ever taken a guy on a transfer who had spurned us after we had recruited him hard coming out of high school? I know he hasn't taken many transfers, period, but I don't recall any of them being kids who we had gone after initially and they chose to go elsewhere. Anyone?

RoyalBlue08
04-21-2012, 10:55 AM
Not that it matters, but put me in the category of not interested.

ACCBBallFan
04-21-2012, 10:58 AM
Has K ever taken a guy on a transfer who had spurned us after we had recruited him hard coming out of high school? I know he hasn't taken many transfers, period, but I don't recall any of them being kids who we had gone after initially and they chose to go elsewhere. Anyone?

Probably did not recruit Trey Ziegler as hard, but he was a guy Duke had osme interest in before he decided to play for pops, and also before Duke withdrew its interest and he went to Pitt.

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=3313056

As you say, small sample size of actual transfers into Duke. Don't think Duke looked at Seth Curry initially.

DukeGirl4ever
04-21-2012, 12:04 PM
Alex Schwartz þ @NorthstarBball


RT @GoodmanCBS: Roscoe Smith gets his release from UConn, his father told CBSSports.

On UCONN roster, listed as 6' 8" 205 formerly a 2010 prospect of Duke, Gtown and Florida and others besides UCONN from Oak Hill Academy

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball

APR and no post-season play ban taking its toll.

Unlike Oriakhi, my guess is Roscoe would have to sit a year.

Can you explain to me why this would be different than Oriakhi?
I should probably read the link to see if there are different circumstances surrounding the release :o, but I would think he should be able to play next year.

jimsumner
04-21-2012, 12:19 PM
Can you explain to me why this would be different than Oriakhi?
I should probably read the link to see if there are different circumstances surrounding the release :o, but I would think he should be able to play next year.

Oriakhi is a rising senior. With UConn's one-year NCAAT ban, he would not be able to play in the NCAAT while at that school.

Smith is a rising sophomore. He would be able to play in the NCAAT while at UConn. Just not next season.

Hence the difference.

dukedoc
04-21-2012, 12:24 PM
Ben Swain @thedevilwolf

@GaryParrishCBS @GoodmanCBS are you sure roscoe didn’t just think his four years was up already?

LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yabpY-YT46k)

smvalkyries
04-21-2012, 01:43 PM
Didn't we originally recruit Rashaun McCloud and/or Andre Sweet?

DukeGirl4ever
04-21-2012, 01:47 PM
Oriakhi is a rising senior. With UConn's one-year NCAAT ban, he would not be able to play in the NCAAT while at that school.

Smith is a rising sophomore. He would be able to play in the NCAAT while at UConn. Just not next season.

Hence the difference.

My Lord, you need a law degree to follow these rules! :D Kidding!
Thanks for the explanation. I guess that makes sense, but the program is pretty much left in disarray now (IMO) so I don't know how great of a chance they'd have at making the tourney in 2 years anyway.

Gthoma2a
04-21-2012, 03:08 PM
Oriakhi is a rising senior. With UConn's one-year NCAAT ban, he would not be able to play in the NCAAT while at that school.

Smith is a rising sophomore. He would be able to play in the NCAAT while at UConn. Just not next season.

Hence the difference.

I really don't get the wait a year to play thing. It just seems pointless. When a team isn't going to get to play in the tournament, or if a player made a bad decision when he was 18, it should be understood and not punished.

freshmanjs
04-21-2012, 03:13 PM
I really don't get the wait a year to play thing. It just seems pointless. When a team isn't going to get to play in the tournament, or if a player made a bad decision when he was 18, it should be understood and not punished.

if there were no sit out a year rule, rosters would dramatically reshuffle every year. would be terrible for the sport.

Newton_14
04-21-2012, 03:15 PM
if there were no sit out a year rule, rosters would dramatically reshuffle every year. would be terrible for the sport.

Yeah, I agree. The transfer rate would go way up from even where it is now. That would not be good for the sport imo.

jimsumner
04-21-2012, 03:37 PM
Didn't we originally recruit Rashaun McCloud and/or Andre Sweet?

Having already signed Joey Beard, Duke had no need for Roshown McLeod. Probably a cautionary tale there somewhere.

Duke signed Sweet out of high school. He transferred to Seton Hall. Are you thinking of Dahntay Jones? Duke also did not recruit him out of high school.

As far as Hood and/or R. Smith are concerned, it seems to be a different era, one in which transfers are rampant. I expect Duke to enter the pool cautiously but enter it nonetheless.

Chicken Little
04-21-2012, 04:48 PM
Ben Swain @thedevilwolf

@GaryParrishCBS @GoodmanCBS are you sure roscoe didn’t just think his four years was up already?

LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yabpY-YT46k)

Bwahahahaha.

miramar
04-21-2012, 05:27 PM
I really don't know anything about Roscoe Smith, but as a freshman he averaged 6.3 points and 5.2 rebounds in 25.4 minutes (33 starts), and as a sophomore 4.4/3.4 in 18.2 minutes (14 starts). This past year he shot 48% on two pointers, 24% on threes, and 65% on FTs.

Unless the guy was hurt, he seem to be regressing. As a senior he scored 24PPG at Oak Hill Academy and was #32 on scout and #37 on rivals, so maybe UConn doesn't know how to develop big men either.

Smith also doesn't seem to understand the concept of shot clock management, although the cheerleader's catch is his megaphone at the end of the clip is outstanding:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL3f7xxsQ6c

In his defense, however, Dave McClure also had to learn a few things about the shot clock as a freshman, and he turned out all right. So maybe he just needs to redshirt a year and get his career back on track.

moonpie23
04-21-2012, 05:29 PM
i'd bet that if he CALLED K and asked, that K would be happy to talk to him about it....

COYS
04-21-2012, 06:01 PM
I really don't know anything about Roscoe Smith, but as a freshman he averaged 6.3 points and 5.2 rebounds in 25.4 minutes (33 starts), and as a sophomore 4.4/3.4 in 18.2 minutes (14 starts). This past year he shot 48% on two pointers, 24% on threes, and 65% on FTs.

Unless the guy was hurt, he seem to be regressing. As a senior he scored 24PPG at Oak Hill Academy and was #32 on scout and #37 on rivals, so maybe UConn doesn't know how to develop big men either.

Smith also doesn't seem to understand the concept of shot clock management, although the cheerleader's catch is his megaphone at the end of the clip is outstanding:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL3f7xxsQ6c

In his defense, however, Dave McClure also had to learn a few things about the shot clock as a freshman, and he turned out all right. So maybe he just needs to redshirt a year and get his career back on track.

The situation at UCONN was so strange this season, it's possible that we can't read too much into his regression. What he would bring to Duke would be excellent rebounding and defensive length on the wing. Who know if anything will come of it (and if all goes well with Hood, then this might be a non-issue), but I would imagine the staff would listen if he were interested in coming to Duke.

TruBlu
04-21-2012, 06:25 PM
Ben Swain @thedevilwolf

@GaryParrishCBS @GoodmanCBS are you sure roscoe didn’t just think his four years was up already?

LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yabpY-YT46k)


Or maybe Roscoe doesn't think it will be JUST a one year ban for u-con.

miramar
04-21-2012, 06:45 PM
By coincidence, we have an opening, at least for the time being:

"Calhoun would not comment on his discussions with Smith. A team source, requesting anonymity, said Smith's decision stemmed from his desire to play small forward rather than power forward. With Oriakhi, who has since committed to Missouri, gone, and small forward types Omar Calhoun and R.J. Evans coming in, Smith was most likely to play power forward. Smith, unless he can obtain some sort of waiver from the NCAA, will have to sit out a year before resuming at a new school."

http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-men/hc-uconn-roscoe-smith-0422-20120421,0,4566752.story

lotusland
04-21-2012, 07:48 PM
I remember when Roscoe was going to be our HB stopper after we were spurned that is. I'm pretty sure that Roscoe thread includes predictions about Roscoe getting lots of PT and being a real difference maker as a freshman for Duke. Seriously though didn't he and HB have some kind of beef from HS/AAU days?

UrinalCake
04-21-2012, 10:10 PM
I recall Roscoe Smith saying that one of the reasons he soured on Duke was because he felt slighted by being our #2 priority after Barnes. Or maybe I'm thinking of someone else?

Newton_14
04-21-2012, 11:01 PM
I recall Roscoe Smith saying that one of the reasons he soured on Duke was because he felt slighted by being our #2 priority after Barnes. Or maybe I'm thinking of someone else?

There were rumors of that, and it cut both ways actually. Shirley Barnes told Jeff Goodman that summer that she and Harrison were not happy with the fact that K was still recruiting Roscoe, even though K insisted Barnes was priority one. She commented that "Roy said his one scholly remaining was for Harrison and no one else". Never mind that Roy only had one scholly left to give, and K had 2 scholly's and could have signed both.

After the infamous Skype, when Ol Roy's face appeared on the screen, it was reported that K had Roscoe on the phone before the skype presser had even ended. Who knows if Smith was indeed slighted or not, but in the end he spurned Duke for UConn.

azzefkram
04-21-2012, 11:11 PM
I really don't know anything about Roscoe Smith, but as a freshman he averaged 6.3 points and 5.2 rebounds in 25.4 minutes (33 starts), and as a sophomore 4.4/3.4 in 18.2 minutes (14 starts). This past year he shot 48% on two pointers, 24% on threes, and 65% on FTs.

Unless the guy was hurt, he seem to be regressing. As a senior he scored 24PPG at Oak Hill Academy and was #32 on scout and #37 on rivals, so maybe UConn doesn't know how to develop big men either.

Smith also doesn't seem to understand the concept of shot clock management, although the cheerleader's catch is his megaphone at the end of the clip is outstanding:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL3f7xxsQ6c

In his defense, however, Dave McClure also had to learn a few things about the shot clock as a freshman, and he turned out all right. So maybe he just needs to redshirt a year and get his career back on track.

Or Kemba went Pro.

azzefkram
04-21-2012, 11:17 PM
I recall Roscoe Smith saying that one of the reasons he soured on Duke was because he felt slighted by being our #2 priority after Barnes. Or maybe I'm thinking of someone else?

I don't remember that but he did play 25 mpg as a freshman. There was no way he was getting that type of playing time with Kyle, the Brothers Plumlee, and Ryan.

uh_no
04-22-2012, 12:39 AM
Or Kemba went Pro.

roscoe was there for the national championship....kemba didn't go pro until after roscoe had been at uconn for a year

TexHawk
04-22-2012, 08:17 AM
Oriakhi is a rising senior. With UConn's one-year NCAAT ban, he would not be able to play in the NCAAT while at that school.

Smith is a rising sophomore. He would be able to play in the NCAAT while at UConn. Just not next season.

Hence the difference.

Can you explain why you used the word *rising* to describe these guys? They both regressed in '12, Oriakhi scored 4 less ppg than he did in '11.

freshmanjs
04-22-2012, 08:23 AM
roscoe was there for the national championship....kemba didn't go pro until after roscoe had been at uconn for a year

yes that was the point the poster was making. perhaps his regression between freshman and sophomore year was caused by or related to Kemba leaving.

Newton_14
04-22-2012, 08:46 AM
Can you explain why you used the word *rising* to describe these guys? They both regressed in '12, Oriakhi scored 4 less ppg than he did in '11.

He was talking about class not performance, but made a mistake in that Smith is a rising Jr, not a rising Soph...

uh_no
04-22-2012, 02:29 PM
yes that was the point the poster was making. perhaps his regression between freshman and sophomore year was caused by or related to Kemba leaving.

gotcha. I thought he saying that kemba leaving was what caused roscoe to want to go to uconn.

Johnny Chill
04-22-2012, 08:40 PM
Could Duke use Roscoe Smith?

El_Diablo
05-25-2012, 10:03 PM
Smith heading to UNLV:

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/25/report-former-uconn-forward-roscoe-smith-headed-to-unlv/