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moonpie23
07-26-2011, 06:24 PM
don't START nuttin, won't BE nuttin!


http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/07/26/1371260/2-robbery-suspects-shot-during.html

A-Tex Devil
07-26-2011, 06:39 PM
don't START nuttin, won't BE nuttin!


http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/07/26/1371260/2-robbery-suspects-shot-during.html

So I wonder if this was a "home" poker game, or an illegal poker room? There have been a spate of robberies in Austin of poker "houses" and it was a bit of an epidemic in Dallas with people getting killed. I heard enough stories, and at least 3 places I played at in Austin were robbed in the middle of the game (never while I was there), so I stopped going.

It's possible that this was just a thwarted home invasion, but I have my doubts.

Newton_14
07-26-2011, 09:24 PM
So I wonder if this was a "home" poker game, or an illegal poker room? There have been a spate of robberies in Austin of poker "houses" and it was a bit of an epidemic in Dallas with people getting killed. I heard enough stories, and at least 3 places I played at in Austin were robbed in the middle of the game (never while I was there), so I stopped going.

It's possible that this was just a thwarted home invasion, but I have my doubts.

I suspect it was a regular Texas Hold'em game at the guys house. That is big in the Triangle with games going on in many places. Alot of the times the games are hosted at someone's house. Illegal, but very popular up here.

JasonEvans
07-26-2011, 11:37 PM
I suspect it was a regular Texas Hold'em game at the guys house. That is big in the Triangle with games going on in many places. Alot of the times the games are hosted at someone's house. Illegal, but very popular up here.

Well, the article notes that the game happened regularly a couple nights a week and that there were cars lined all up and down the street when there were games. I have been in a couple "home games" and we rarely attracted more than 10-12 players. We tended to play once a month. If you are attracting scores of players a couple times a week, you are not running a "home game."

The big question, which is unanswered, is whether the host took a cut. That is the difference in a "home game" and a "home casino."

--Jason "love me some poker!" Evans

sagegrouse
07-26-2011, 11:49 PM
Well, the article notes that the game happened regularly a couple nights a week and that there were cars lined all up and down the street when there were games. I have been in a couple "home games" and we rarely attracted more than 10-12 players. We tended to play once a month. If you are attracting scores of players a couple times a week, you are not running a "home game."

The big question, which is unanswered, is whether the host took a cut. That is the difference in a "home game" and a "home casino."

--Jason "love me some poker!" Evans

The other unusual aspect is that one of the robbers was killed and the other wounded. No injury to the players or host. Uhhh,.... anyone else here think that armed security was a priority. Gee, I wonder if off-duty cops were involved. Anyway, don't mess with a Dukie on any playing field.

sagegrouse

m g
07-27-2011, 12:00 AM
this guy was running a room and making a ton of money (or at least trying to). if you don't realize that from the description you're naive. illegal, but it shouldn't be.

i'm sure that's why it was being robbed too.

A-Tex Devil
07-27-2011, 10:57 AM
this guy was running a room and making a ton of money (or at least trying to). if you don't realize that from the description you're naive. illegal, but it shouldn't be.

i'm sure that's why it was being robbed too.

I tend to agree with this. Armed robbers don't bust in on friendly home games. They target games where there is lots of money on the table and where the house is taking a cut and likely won't report the robbery. These games tend to have high security, and you have to be vouched for to get in the door.

That said, without more facts it is still possible that it was a botched burglary attempt. Or maybe it was a friendly home game, but pretty high stakes, and the robbers found out about it. But I still lean towards the first explanation.

BD80
07-27-2011, 11:53 AM
Well, the article notes that the game happened regularly a couple nights a week and that there were cars lined all up and down the street when there were games. I have been in a couple "home games" and we rarely attracted more than 10-12 players. We tended to play once a month. If you are attracting scores of players a couple times a week, you are not running a "home game."

The big question, which is unanswered, is whether the host took a cut. That is the difference in a "home game" and a "home casino."

--Jason "love me some poker!" Evans


this guy was running a room and making a ton of money (or at least trying to). if you don't realize that from the description you're naive. illegal, but it shouldn't be.

i'm sure that's why it was being robbed too.

Boy, are you guys cynical. He just asked for the guys to chip in for potato chips and beer ... a couple of hundred $ per guy. ...

DevilWearsPrada
07-27-2011, 12:31 PM
On the local news, Wral and Wtvd, reported the 2 attempted robbers were wearing masks. Obviously they knew about the weekly poker games, and the stakes. What they didn't know, was the owner of the home, has the right to bare arms, or have security within his home.

I used to have friendly poker games, at the house, 2 or 3 times a month, and that was more than 10 years ago. It was bring your own beer or liquor and chip in for the snacks. We ordered pizza alot of the time, and generally there were 8 to 10 players. The stakes were very low. Several dollars a game or $5 or so, because it was all for fun. This was before Poker and games were mainstream on television and on ESPN.

The local news also said, the home was owner by a former Duke alumni that played baseball at the university. Which his name is in the N&O. This story made the news, since once of the intruders was shot and killed. Sad for the robbers family, but he was in the act of committing a crime, and had weapons.

I heard the story several times on Wral, but just read the N&O article. The neighbor thought the homeowner was conducting weekly meetings on how to make money! Does winning a Poker hand or card game, qualify for "Making Money?"