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jimsumner
07-01-2011, 12:17 PM
From Duke press release.


"Duke finished in fifth place in the final Division I Learfield Sports Directors' CupStandings, released on Friday by the National Association of CollegiateDirectors of Athletics.

Overall, Duke ranked behind Stanford, Ohio State, California and Florida. Duke placed second among private schools behind only Stanford, which was firstfor the 17th consecutive year.

The Directors’ Cup rankings measure an athletic program’s comprehensive sports success by totaling points based on a team’s finish in national competition.

Duke’s 1171.50 points marked the highest figure in school history, surpassing the previous best total of 1021.25 in 2005, while the fifth place finish matched the best showing in school history. Duke also placed fifth in 2005. Additionally, this was the fifth top 10 finish for the Blue Devils
(1999, 2005, 2006, 2010 & 2011) and a five-place improvement over 2010. Duke has placed among the top 20 schools in eight consecutive years.

Duke ranked first among Atlantic Coast Conference schools, 10.75 points ahead of North Carolina (sixth; 1160.75). Virginia(seventh; 1092.00) was next, followed by Florida State (ninth; 1079.00),Maryland (17th; 858.00), Virginia Tech (45th; 500.50),Clemson (47th; 485.50), Miami
(51st; 416.50), GeorgiaTech (59th; 350.75), Boston College (64th; 322.00); N.C.State (67th; 312.00) and Wake Forest (74th; 261.50).

devildeac
07-01-2011, 01:08 PM
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From Duke press release.


"Duke finished in fifth place in the final Division I Learfield Sports Directors' CupStandings, released on Friday by the National Association of CollegiateDirectors of Athletics.

Overall, Duke ranked behind Stanford, Ohio State, California and Florida. Duke placed second among private schools behind only Stanford, which was firstfor the 17th consecutive year.

The Directors’ Cup rankings measure an athletic program’s comprehensive sports success by totaling points based on a team’s finish in national competition.

Duke’s 1171.50 points marked the highest figure in school history, surpassing the previous best total of 1021.25 in 2005, while the fifth place finish matched the best showing in school history. Duke also placed fifth in 2005. Additionally, this was the fifth top 10 finish for the Blue Devils
(1999, 2005, 2006, 2010 & 2011) and a five-place improvement over 2010. Duke has placed among the top 20 schools in eight consecutive years.

Duke ranked first among Atlantic Coast Conference schools, 10.75 points ahead of North Carolina (sixth; 1160.75). Virginia(seventh; 1092.00) was next, followed by Florida State (ninth; 1079.00),Maryland (17th; 858.00), Virginia Tech (45th; 500.50),Clemson (47th; 485.50), Miami
(51st; 416.50), GeorgiaTech (59th; 350.75), Boston College (64th; 322.00); N.C.State (67th; 312.00) and Wake Forest (74th; 261.50).

Once again, just like the old "Basic Math" t-shirt: Duke > unc. (Yea, I know they finish above us regularly but we can enjoy this for a year now;).)

-bdbd
07-01-2011, 03:34 PM
Once again, just like the old "Basic Math" t-shirt: Duke > unc. (Yea, I know they finish above us regularly but we can enjoy this for a year now;).)

To me the real point is that Duke finishes 1st in the ACC and 5th in the country with a fraction of the budget of much of these much larger state schools that have significantly more resources -- 5x (or more) of the student and alumni bases, state monies and big facillities advantages, extra scholarships to throw around, etc., etc. That is just remarkable. Does anyone have a good, quick reference to the comparative size of the athletic budgets and/or alumni bases/giving for these top-rated schools?

A true feather in the cap of A.D. White and the whole Athletic Deoartment, all while continuing to be among the tops in graduation rates of athletes too.

:D ;) :)

chrishoke
07-01-2011, 04:14 PM
Good day to send in my Iron Dukes Pledge Card for this coming year!

devildeac
07-01-2011, 06:48 PM
To me the real point is that Duke finishes 1st in the ACC and 5th in the country with a fraction of the budget of much of these much larger state schools that have significantly more resources -- 5x (or more) of the student and alumni bases, state monies and big facillities advantages, extra scholarships to throw around, etc., etc. That is just remarkable. Does anyone have a good, quick reference to the comparative size of the athletic budgets and/or alumni bases/giving for these top-rated schools?

A true feather in the cap of A.D. White and the whole Athletic Deoartment, all while continuing to be among the tops in graduation rates of athletes too.

:D ;) :)

Good questions.

From statefannation in 2009:

================= ATLANTIC COAST CONFERENCE =================
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Athletic Yrs at No. of Dept. Guaranteed
School Director School Teams Budget Base
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Georgia Tech Dan Radakovich 3 17 $56.0M $560,000
Clemson Terry Don Phillips 6 19 $53.2M $418,000
Maryland Deborah Yow 15 27 $61.0M $382,575
Florida State Randy Spetman 1 17 $51.0M $350,000
Virginia Tech Jim Weaver 12 21 $53.5M $345,211
Virginia Craig Littlepage 8 25 $56.2M $320,000
N. Carolina Dick Baddour 12 28 $61.4M $295,000
NC State Lee Fowler 9 23 $39.0M $280,000
---------------------------------------------------------------
ACC Average 8 22 $53.9M $368,848
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(apparently private schools Miami, Duke and BC do not report their numbers)
Excluding NC State, each ACC team budgets about $56.04 Million on the average. NC State, at $39 Million, runs its athletics at a rate of roughly 70% of the rest of the conference. An easy counter-argument would be that NC State fields fewer teams, but as you can see, there are four schools (GT, Clemson, FSU, VT) that have higher athletic budgets with fewer teams than NC State.
We posted these numbers before, but let’s once again look at the Director’s Cup Standings:
ACC:
4. UNC
5. Wake Forest
9. Maryland
11. UVA
15. FSU
18. Duke
27. BC
63. VT
68. Clemson
91. NC State
93. GT (has a new AD)
94. Miami (has a new AD)
Interesting, and it seems that there is a correllation at least in our case: we’re getting what we pay for. While it is true that NC State raises far fewer dollars than UNC, it outraises Duke:
With 28 varsity sports, [UNC] is one of the country’s largest athletic programs. It raised $51 million in pledges or donations for athletics last year, alone.Among other ACC schools, North Carolina State University placed 14th on the list, with more than $27 million in donations received last year. Duke placed 17th, with nearly $25.5 million.
Among other ACC schools, North Carolina State University placed 14th on the list, with more than $27 million in donations received last year. Duke placed 17th, with nearly $25.5 million.
Here’s an older table that shows a good picture of ACC booster clubs’ fundraising:
Atlantic Coast Conference
Athletics
donations
in 2006
Overall rank
in
athletics
donations
Amount raised
in capital
campaigns
for athletics
in
past 5 years
Goal of
current
capital
campaign
for
athletics
Full-time
athletics
fund
raisers
UNC
$51,000,000
1
$230,000,000
--
20
UVA
$45,240,112
2
$188,100,000
--
19
FSU
$29,100,000
11
$155,300,000
$110,000,000
6
NCSU
$27,254,723
14
$125,625,000
--
16
Duke
$25,495,000
17
$150,000,000
--
15
GT
$25,000,000
18
--
$125,000,000
8
VT
$23,680,688
19
$22,300,000
--
6
Clemson
$23,160,000
22
$27,000,000
--
6
Miami
$19,200,000
29
$63,000,000
$70,000,000
9
BC
$19,000,000
31
$64,000,000
--
8
Wake Forest
$12,692,782
46
$63,000,000
$87,000,000
9
Maryland
--
--
--
--
the numbers seem to speak for themselves.

Could not find any other good source while googling around for a bit. Sorry for the alignment (or lack thereof) of the 2nd table. Not one of my strengths. My feeble memory from 3-5 years ago faintly recalls unc spending about 250 mil and the good guys about 175 mil but not sure how those figures were obtained/calculated. I believe they have more sports/athletes/team but we obviously have higher costs/athlete with our tuition being >40K/year beginning next month:eek:.