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pbc2
06-18-2011, 10:33 AM
Not sure where this fit, but here's a preview (http://bit.ly/iYGv9i) of the upcoming Duke football season.

Bob Green
06-18-2011, 12:26 PM
Not sure where this fit, but here's a preview (http://bit.ly/iYGv9i) of the upcoming Duke football season.

That link also contains this link (http://www.collegefootballzealots.com/2011-articles/june/2011-pre-season-preview-wake-forest-demon-deacons.html) to a Wake preview that contains the following statement:


Six wins will be a successful season. And it’s the ceiling in my opinion. I can’t see Wake winning fewer than four, so I’ll split the difference and put them at 5-7, with wins being Syracuse, Gardner-Webb, Duke, Vanderbilt and one of N.C. State or Maryland.

The Demon Deacons have had our number lately winning the last 11 games since Duke was victorious in 1999. This is a game the Blue Devils must win.

OZZIE4DUKE
06-18-2011, 05:27 PM
That link also contains this link (http://www.collegefootballzealots.com/2011-articles/june/2011-pre-season-preview-wake-forest-demon-deacons.html) to a Wake preview that contains the following statement:



The Demon Deacons have had our number lately winning the last 11 games since Duke was victorious in 1999. This is a game the Blue Devils must win.
Yes we do, and some of us will be MIA (as in NOT the stands) as DD's #1 daughter is getting married that day. Poor planning on her part, but the date was chosen long before the schedule came out.

Jarhead
06-19-2011, 09:49 AM
Yes we do, and some of us will be MIA (as in NOT the stands) as DD's #1 daughter is getting married that day. Poor planning on her part, but the date was chosen long before the schedule came out.

I'm confused. DD adds a son-in-law in June, and he is going to add another one in October? How in the world can a father handle that? On Father's Day, such commitment blows my mind.
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devildeac
06-19-2011, 04:46 PM
I'm confused. DD adds a son-in-law in June, and he is going to add another one in October? How in the world can a father handle that? On Father's Day, such commitment blows my mind.
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My wife has seized control of our checkbook. It was a hostile takeover.

Oh, and to keep it on-topic, we will beat Wake this year (or I may have to change my name to deacdeac).

pbc2
06-23-2011, 04:37 PM
Despite a scare from the Blue Devils in 2010, BC fans are still hesitant to take Duke seriously. Here's a preview from BC Interruption (http://sbn.to/lzpNKu).

uh_no
06-24-2011, 09:40 AM
Despite a scare from the Blue Devils in 2010, BC fans are still hesitant to take Duke seriously. Here's a preview from BC Interruption (http://sbn.to/lzpNKu).

Until Duke starts making bowls, I would be hesitant to take Duke seriously also (if I were an opposing team). But that just means we can blow all the teams resting on their laurels out of the water this year!

pbc2
07-05-2011, 11:21 AM
So we've seen previews for the 2011 season and a few of the games, but the most important game for Duke is the first one.

Here's a preview (http://bit.ly/iFFy8G) of the home opener against Richmond, with some help from a sports editor at The Collegian.

Devil in the Blue Dress
07-05-2011, 11:29 AM
So we've seen previews for the 2011 season and a few of the games, but the most important game for Duke is the first one.

Here's a preview (http://bit.ly/iFFy8G) of the home opener against Richmond, with some help from a sports editor at The Collegian.
You are so right! The counter on goduke.com is very helpful in knowing just exactly how long it is until that first kickoff! http://www.goduke.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=4200&SPID=1843&SPSID=22666 Can't wait!

pbc2
07-10-2011, 11:31 AM
Duke face another big early season test this year against Andrew Luck and Stanford. Here's a quick look at the Cardinal, with help from Stanford Insider Hank Waddles of GoMightyCard.com

Stanford at Duke preview (http://bit.ly/pdVHPB)

Devil in the Blue Dress
07-14-2011, 06:59 PM
Another Duke player is named to a watch list for the 2011 season. Brian Moore is on the watch list for the Rimington trophy, presented to the top center in the country at the end of the season.

There is a very pleasing trend of increasing numbers of offensive players named to pre-season watch lists. The next sign of major improvement will be a growing trend of defensive players being named to such watch lists.;)

pbc2
07-19-2011, 08:15 AM
Duke gave BC a scare in Durham last year and if it not for a goal-line stand late in the game, the Blue Devils would have pulled off the upset. This year, Duke opens their ACC slate with an early season road game in Chestnut Hill.

Here's a preview (http://bit.ly/q2YbqD), with a look at BC from BC Interruption.

CameronBornAndBred
07-19-2011, 08:22 AM
Duke gave BC a scare in Durham last year and if it not for a goal-line stand late in the game, the Blue Devils would have pulled off the upset. This year, Duke opens their ACC slate with an early season road game in Chestnut Hill.

Here's a preview (http://bit.ly/q2YbqD), with a look at BC from BC Interruption.
Should be a very good game. I'm so happy that one is not in Durham; unless it's raining, Wallace Wade is the last place I want to be sitting at noon in the middle of September. http://crazietalk.net/ourhouse/images/smilies/flame.gif (http://crazietalk.net/ourhouse/posting.php?mode=reply&f=3&t=3629#) http://crazietalk.net/ourhouse/images/smilies/angry/extinguishflame.gif (http://crazietalk.net/ourhouse/posting.php?mode=smilies&f=3#)

Duke of Nashville
07-19-2011, 09:05 AM
Duke gave BC a scare in Durham last year and if it not for a goal-line stand late in the game, the Blue Devils would have pulled off the upset. This year, Duke opens their ACC slate with an early season road game in Chestnut Hill.

Here's a preview (http://bit.ly/q2YbqD), with a look at BC from BC Interruption.

I follow you on Twitter and I enjoy reading your articles. I actually read this one as I walked the dog this morning. Thank you for the read! Keep up the great work.

I really cannot wait until we start making some headway (as far as wins go) with our ACC opponents. We've earned enough respect to make the other teams show up on game days but the other fan bases don't seem to garner the same respect. Let's turn some heads this year!

Go Duke!

Lid
07-19-2011, 09:09 AM
This may not be the correct place to post this, but I was proud to see the football team out picking up garbage in the Blue Zone early yesterday morning, making their campus a better place. (At least I assume it was part of the football team; if not, there is a well-organized group of large men that Coach Cut might considered pulling in for practice help, at least.) It was like the anti-Tailgate.

Duke of Nashville
07-19-2011, 09:20 AM
This may not be the correct place to post this, but I was proud to see the football team out picking up garbage in the Blue Zone early yesterday morning, making their campus a better place. (At least I assume it was part of the football team; if not, there is a well-organized group of large men that Coach Cut might considered pulling in for practice help, at least.) It was like the anti-Tailgate.

Glad you mentioned this. It definitely deserves attention.

Here is a link

http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?&ATCLID=205183422&DB_OEM_ID=4200

pbc2
07-19-2011, 10:56 AM
Coach Cut and the staff have emphasized giving back to the Durham community and the players have embraced it. The annual campus clean-up is just one example. The team is also involved with the Durham Rescue Mission, Ronald McDonald House, Durham public school programs, etc.

Thanks for the compliments. Praise and criticism are always welcome.

Newton_14
07-19-2011, 07:51 PM
Here is a good article on new Duke Defensive Line Coach Rick Petri. Good stuff on his career accomplishments and what he brings to the Blue Devils.

http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/26398/coaching-em-up-duke

pbc2
07-20-2011, 10:13 AM
Here is a good article on new Duke Defensive Line Coach Rick Petri. Good stuff on his career accomplishments and what he brings to the Blue Devils.

http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/26398/coaching-em-up-duke

Not that much substance to that post, but it reminded me of an interview she did during spring practice with Charlie Hatcher that I think better represents Petri's impact on Duke's defensive line: http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/23020/dukes-defense-making-strides

Bob Green
07-21-2011, 07:48 PM
Issac Blakeney will miss the 2011 season due to being academically ineligible:

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/duke/story/9892522/

Blakeney (6'6" 230) was expected to be a key contributor at Safety in the revamped 4-2-5 defense.

roywhite
07-21-2011, 07:51 PM
Issac Blakeney will miss the 2011 season due to being academically ineligible:

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/duke/story/9892522/

Blakeney (6'6" 230) was expected to be a key contributor at Safety in the revamped 4-2-5 defense.

Darn. Sorry to hear that; I was looking forward to his impact.

This eligibility thing doesn't work the same in Durham as it does in Chapel Hill, does it?:(

jimsumner
07-21-2011, 08:04 PM
Darn. Sorry to hear that; I was looking forward to his impact.

This eligibility thing doesn't work the same in Durham as it does in Chapel Hill, does it?:(

That's a big loss. Blakeney is an uber athlete, with a rare blend of size, speed and leaping ability. He had a chance to be a difference maker and Duke desperately needs difference makers on D.

Hopefully, he'll stay with it and return in 2012.

Acymetric
07-21-2011, 08:45 PM
The article says suspended from the university...is he out of school until spring or just suspended from football?

jimsumner
07-21-2011, 09:12 PM
Here's what the Duke press release says.

"Duke head football coach David Cutcliffe announced on Thursday that safety Issac Blakeney has been suspended from the university for failure to meet continuing academic eligibility requirements and will miss the 2011 season.

“Issac is a valuable member of the Duke Football family and I look forward to him returning to full eligibility in January of 2012,” said Cutcliffe."

SmartDevil
07-22-2011, 12:25 AM
What kind of academic assistance, tutoring, monitoring, etc. does the football program maintain these days?

How does it compare to that for the basketball program?

And what resources are available for athletes in other sports?

I'm a little surprised at an announcement like this being made so late in the summer.

Acymetric
07-22-2011, 12:35 AM
What kind of academic assistance, tutoring, monitoring, etc. does the football program maintain these days?

How does it compare to that for the basketball program?

And what resources are available for athletes in other sports?

I'm a little surprised at an announcement like this being made so late in the summer.

They may have been hoping he could get his grades up in summer school.

pbc2
07-22-2011, 09:57 AM
No question the Blakeney loss is big for the defense. Will definitely need to see guys like Campbell, Byas, and maybe even freshman Chris Tavarez step up. The play of the safeties is crucial for the new defense to be successful.

In preparation for ACC Football Kickoff, here's a set of completely unqualified ACC predictions in BDN's Football Friday (http://bit.ly/pUAJOG).

uh_no
07-22-2011, 10:57 AM
Here's what the Duke press release says.

"Duke head football coach David Cutcliffe announced on Thursday that safety Issac Blakeney has been suspended from the university for failure to meet continuing academic eligibility requirements and will miss the 2011 season.

“Issac is a valuable member of the Duke Football family and I look forward to him returning to full eligibility in January of 2012,” said Cutcliffe."

Wow. The continuing academic eligibility requirements are not high

http://trinity.duke.edu/academic-requirements?p=continuation-requirements

Furthermore you must PASS 3 courses each semester aside from the first in which you must only pass 2.

To not meet these requirements indicates to me that the effort isn't there. I know that the basketball team has a very strong program to ensure that the players pass their courses (the program gets info on all the players tests and assignments to ensure the students are ready), but I imagine for a football team 7 or 8 times larger, this just isn't possible, and the same amount of attention cannot be spared on each individual. In the end, its sad for the kid, and you hope he can get straightened out, but to not remain academically eligible at duke simply indicates a lack of salience or effort at passing one's classes.

Olympic Fan
07-22-2011, 11:46 AM
Not sure of the academic isues, but let me weigh in on the loss of a very promising safety.

Losing any player is a blow -- and Blakeney was a unique athlete who would have been exciting to watch -- but safety is perhaps the deepest position on the Duke team.

Duke is going to play a 4-2-5 alignment that features three safeties -- one of them a kind of hybrid LB/SS. On the depth chart, senior Matt Daniels -- probably the best defensive player on the team and one of the two or three best safeties in the ACC is slated to start in the hybrid spot -- with veterans Walt Canty and Lee Butler at the other two spots.

Daniels is going to be on the field as much as possible. But he's SO good and SO versatile that the plan is to move him around, shifting him between all three safety spots. When he's away from the hybrid slot -- filling for either Butler or Canty -- the next hybrid safety in line is Austin Campbell, a redshirt sophomore who is (like Blakeney) a freak athlete. He's a converted linebacker, but he's one of the fastest players on the Duke team (as he showed with an 80-plus yard fumble recovery return against Maryland). The plan was for Blakeney to play behind Daniels and Campbell at the hybrid spot.

Duke still has good depth at safety -- Jordan Byas is a player and Anthony Young-Wiseman is looking very good after missing last season with a broken leg. Taylor Sowell can contribute.

But losing Blakeney hurts -- in practice last fall and last spring, he demonstrated a great ability to bring blitz from the safety position and pressuring the passer is something that Duke needs more than anything else on defense.

He'll be missed. Here's hoping the kid gets it together and comes back strong in 2012.

Bob Green
07-23-2011, 02:10 PM
The Blakeney news has spurred some solid discussion on our depth at Safety, but cornerback is the position which has me concerned (along with the defensive line). How are our corners looking? We've converted two receivers to CB the past two years, first Johnny Williams and now Tony Foster. Are either of the two ready to start and perform at an ACC level? Is Quan Stevenson healthy? Is Ross Cockrell ready to step up and be a lockdown defender?

There are lots of questions out there at cornerback. Duke gave up too many big plays last season - 3rd and long should be advantage defense but those words were enough to make Duke fans tremble.

Can the cornerbacks be successful in 2011? I'd love to hear from those close to the situation.

jimsumner
07-23-2011, 02:57 PM
The Blakeney news has spurred some solid discussion on our depth at Safety, but cornerback is the position which has me concerned (along with the defensive line). How are our corners looking? We've converted two receivers to CB the past two years, first Johnny Williams and now Tony Foster. Are either of the two ready to start and perform at an ACC level? Is Quan Stevenson healthy? Is Ross Cockrell ready to step up and be a lockdown defender?

There are lots of questions out there at cornerback. Duke gave up too many big plays last season - 3rd and long should be advantage defense but those words were enough to make Duke fans tremble.

Can the cornerbacks be successful in 2011? I'd love to hear from those close to the situation.

Hard to say until practice and scrimmages start. We don't have any summer-league action to drool over. :)

But a decent pass rush wouldn't hurt. That's why losing Blakeney hurts. He had some serious potential in that area.

Bob Green
07-23-2011, 04:00 PM
Hard to say until practice and scrimmages start. We don't have any summer-league action to drool over. :)

Thanks, Jim. Practice starts in 16 days and the season opener against Richmond is in 42 days (not that I'm counting or anything :)) so I guess I'll just have to cool my jets for a while.

My annual summer optimism is in full bloom. :cool:

epoulsen
07-23-2011, 04:10 PM
No question the Blakeney loss is big for the defense. Will definitely need to see guys like Campbell, Byas, and maybe even freshman Chris Tavarez step up. The play of the safeties is crucial for the new defense to be successful.

In preparation for ACC Football Kickoff, here's a set of completely unqualified ACC predictions in BDN's Football Friday (http://bit.ly/pUAJOG).

I can't remember, what was the old defensive scheme?

Bob Green
07-23-2011, 04:42 PM
I can't remember, what was the old defensive scheme?

Duke attempted to implement a 3-4 last season due to a perceived strength at the linebacker position. It was a grand failure due in part to the linebackers not being as talented as thought. Moreover, the 3-4 requires a team to have a dominate nose guard to anchor the defensive line. Duke didn't have one. In hindsight, the dismissal of John Drew in the off season was a severe blow to the ability to achieve success with the 3-4 defense. Previously, the 4-3 was used.

epoulsen
07-23-2011, 04:44 PM
a 3-4, I really have to work on that whole ask first and then figure it out yourself second thing...

epoulsen
07-23-2011, 05:00 PM
Duke attempted to implement a 3-4 last season due to a perceived strength at the linebacker position. It was a grand failure due in part to the linebackers not being as talented as thought. Moreover, the 3-4 requires a team to have a dominate nose guard to anchor the defensive line. Duke didn't have one. In hindsight, the dismissal of John Drew in the off season was a severe blow to the ability to achieve success with the 3-4 defense. Previously, the 4-3 was used.

thanks, unlike basketball I have to play cram before each football season, there's only so much time in the day... so it looks like we're using the 4-2-5 just because we haven't tried it yet maybe? Either way it looks like a good solution with such a young line and questionable secondary. I agree with the comment abt 3rd and long last year. The only thing more frustrating than the other team converting through the air on 3rd and long is when they run it right up the middle and convert.

Also, are we dismissing our defensive coords or are they moving on to bigger and better things (seems unlikely), and if it's the former then couldn't some part of our defensive woes be attributed to the players not having time to understand the formation? Even at the next level players struggle to adjust in a new scheme.

jimsumner
07-23-2011, 05:32 PM
Also, are we dismissing our defensive coords or are they moving on to bigger and better things (seems unlikely), and if it's the former then couldn't some part of our defensive woes be attributed to the players not having time to understand the formation? Even at the next level players struggle to adjust in a new scheme.

Mike McInytre became head coach at San Jose State following the 2009 season. Big loss.

Olympic Fan
07-23-2011, 09:04 PM
so it looks like we're using the 4-2-5 just because we haven't tried it yet maybe? Either way it looks like a good solution with such a young line and questionable secondary.

We've actually used the 4-2-5 quite extensively in the last three seasons. A couple of years ago, when Vinnie Rey and Michael Taulilli were kick-butt LBs, we played more three safety alinements than three linebacker sets.

Last year, when they gave up on the 3-4 midway through the season, they played more 4-2-5 than anything else -- with Campbell making a midseason switch from LB to safety.

I know it's easy to blame what happened last year on the secondary, but that's unfair. Not saying they were great, but nobody would have looked good at corner with that (lack of) pass rush. Freshman Ross Cockrell got beat a lot, but he made a lot of plays too. He's older, more experienced and (most importantly) stronger. He has to prove it on the field, but he has a chance to be good.

Johnny Williams was battling injuries all last season and never really got a chance. When he made the switch to corner, Cut said he was a potential NFL corner. We'll see.

OldPhiKap
07-23-2011, 10:20 PM
I know it's easy to blame what happened last year on the secondary, but that's unfair. Not saying they were great, but nobody would have looked good at corner with that (lack of) pass rush.

This.

We gained a lot of valuable experience last year, and need to build on it. If we can play some solid D, we can have a very enjoyable season.

uh_no
07-23-2011, 10:56 PM
This.

We gained a lot of valuable experience last year, and need to build on it. If we can play some solid D, we can have a very enjoyable season.

We need to switch on screens and get into the passing lanes. If playing ball at duke means anything: it means you will play good defense.

Let's play some team defense guys!

watzone
07-24-2011, 02:30 PM
I just cast my vote in Pinehurst for the predicted order of finish. It will be interesting to see where Duke is picked and those results will be out late this afternoon. Sean Renfree and Matt Daniels will address the media around 5:00.

jimsumner
07-24-2011, 10:28 PM
It appears that the guys most likely for a breakout are RB Juwan Thompson, WR Brandon Braxton and DE Jordan DeWalt-Ondijo. Renfree absolutely raved about Braxton's route-running, hands and work ethic.

Matt Daniels had nice things to say about Jamal Bruce and told me that Ingram was down to about 300 pounds and was moving much better.

More later.

OZZIE4DUKE
07-24-2011, 11:20 PM
It appears that the guys most likely for a breakout are RB Juwan Thompson, WR Brandon Braxton and DE Jordan DeWalt-Ondijo. Renfree absolutely raved about Braxton's route-running, hands and work ethic.

Matt Daniels had nice things to say about Jamal Bruce and told me that Ingram was down to about 300 pounds and was moving much better.

More later.
Any comment on Josh Snead? He's my local favorite.

jimsumner
07-24-2011, 11:24 PM
Any comment on Josh Snead? He's my local favorite.

Not specifically. He's still in the RB mix. But I'm hearing raves about Thompson. Factoring in blocking and receiving, Scott is likely the best all-around running back but Thompson might be the best pure runner, as quick as Snead but tougher between the tackles.

Reading between the lines, Hollingsworth and Kurunwune might be hard-pressed to find the field. Only so many touches.

Then again, running backs get banged up. And worse. So, some depth might not be a bad thing.

pbc2
07-25-2011, 09:46 AM
Snead is listed behind Hollingsworth at #4 on the preseason depth chart. That is mostly based on the fact that he missed most of spring practice with an injury. He told me about a month ago that he was near 100%, so I don't expect him to be limited at all in camp. A solid camp performance should put him right in the mix for carries.

As Jim said, carries for Hollingsworth and Kurunuwe may be sparce, barring injury.

OZZIE4DUKE
07-25-2011, 12:23 PM
Snead's forte' in HS was the breakaway long run for 50+ yards, usually breaking a tackle or two through the middle of the line. I kept waiting for him to do that last year (until he got injured) and look forward to seeing it happen early and often in 2011! He's pretty good on kickoff returns, too! :cool:

pbc2
07-25-2011, 12:35 PM
Here's BDN's preview (http://bit.ly/qDCVoD) of Duke's week 4 matchup with Tulane. The Green Wave will not be a pushover for the Blue Devils. Duke will have to play well to win.

CameronBornAndBred
07-25-2011, 02:27 PM
I just cast my vote in Pinehurst for the predicted order of finish. It will be interesting to see where Duke is picked and those results will be out late this afternoon. Sean Renfree and Matt Daniels will address the media around 5:00.
Duke's last. What a shock. It's gonna be seriously fun to prove some people wrong.


ACC championship votes:

1. Florida State (50)
2. Virginia Tech (18)
3. Clemson (2)
4. Boston College (1)

Atlantic Division
1. Florida State (65)
2. Clemson (4)
3. NC State
4. Boston College (2)
5. Maryland
6. Wake Forest

Coastal Division
1. Virginia Tech (66)
2. Miami (4)
3. North Carolina
4. Georgia Tech (1)
5. Virginia
6. Duke



http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/26705/the-votes-are-in-fsu-montel-harris-no-1

Bob Green
07-25-2011, 02:44 PM
It doesn't surprise me the media voted Duke to finish sixth in the Coastal Division, but I do believe it is an indication they didn't do their homework. For starters, Duke finished in fifth place last year ahead of Virginia as both teams were 1-7 with Duke beating Virginia in the head-to-head match-up. With the ongoing QB issue in Charlottesville, I fail to understand how Virginia is being picked ahead of Duke so we should be projected as the fifth place team at a minimum. Additionally, Georgia Tech lost a lot of talent off last year's team so I believe an argument can be made that Duke should knock off the Yellow Jackets in Durham on November 19 and finish in fourth place.

The year is going to be interesting, and the team is going to need the ball to bounce in the proper direction a time or two, but I believe Duke has a solid chance to finish 4-4 in the ACC, which will be good enough for a third or fourth place finish in the Coastal Division. We must win games on the road to make it happen.

Duke of Nashville
07-25-2011, 03:55 PM
Duke's last. What a shock. It's gonna be seriously fun to prove some people wrong.

http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/26705/the-votes-are-in-fsu-montel-harris-no-1

Bulletin Board/Locker Room material right here.

I agree with Bob Green as well. We have a shot to finish 4-4 in the ACC and reclaim the victory bell in the end.

If the pigskin bounces our way a time or two I really hope we get an invite to the Music City Bowl (I think fourth place in the ACC usually gets an invite). Not because I live in Nashville but because we would get another crack at an SEC team. Getting wholly womped by Alabama still gives me nightmares.

davekay1971
07-25-2011, 04:23 PM
It doesn't surprise me the media voted Duke to finish sixth in the Coastal Division, but I do believe it is an indication they didn't do their homework. For starters, Duke finished in fifth place last year ahead of Virginia as both teams were 1-7 with Duke beating Virginia in the head-to-head match-up. With the ongoing QB issue in Charlottesville, I fail to understand how Virginia is being picked ahead of Duke so we should be projected as the fifth place team at a minimum. Additionally, Georgia Tech lost a lot of talent off last year's team so I believe an argument can be made that Duke should knock off the Yellow Jackets in Durham on November 19 and finish in fourth place.
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I'm going to go all Optomistic Ozzy on you and predict we surprise the University of Notorious Cheaters, who by that point will have learned of the imposition of the NCAA sanctions and who's coach will be enjoying repeat viewings of Dead Man Walking on his office flat screen tv, to shock the press row crowd with a 3rd place division finish.

jafarr1
07-25-2011, 04:26 PM
I think it's pretty tough for Duke football to play the lack-of-respect card. How often has Duke exceeded expectations in recent memory?

I also believe Duke will exceed the projections, but I don't blame anyone of the media for taking a wait-and-see attitude, as there's been a lot of talk of improvement over the past few years and little to show for it. It's time for Duke to show improvement on the field.

Indoor66
07-25-2011, 04:27 PM
I'm going to go all Optomistic Ozzy on you and predict we surprise the University of Notorious Cheaters, who by that point will have learned of the imposition of the NCAA sanctions and who's coach will be enjoying repeat viewings of Dead Man Walking on his office flat screen tv, to shock the press row crowd with a 3rd place division finish.

I like your thinking, Bob.

Maybe we have a new shorthand for the ultimate optimism: "OO"?

OZZIE4DUKE
07-25-2011, 05:26 PM
It doesn't surprise me the media voted Duke to finish sixth in the Coastal Division, but I do believe it is an indication they didn't do their homework. For starters, Duke finished in fifth place last year ahead of Virginia as both teams were 1-7 with Duke beating Virginia in the head-to-head match-up. With the ongoing QB issue in Charlottesville, I fail to understand how Virginia is being picked ahead of Duke so we should be projected as the fifth place team at a minimum. Additionally, Georgia Tech lost a lot of talent off last year's team so I believe an argument can be made that Duke should knock off the Yellow Jackets in Durham on November 19 and finish in fourth place.

The year is going to be interesting, and the team is going to need the ball to bounce in the proper direction a time or two, but I believe Duke has a solid chance to finish 4-4 in the ACC, which will be good enough for a third or fourth place finish in the Coastal Division. We must win games on the road to make it happen.
Well, once you get past my usual prediction of going 14-0, counting the conference championship and BCS games, Bob I like your thinking! :cool:

I'm going to go all Optimistic Ozzy on you and predict we surprise the University of Notorious Cheaters, who by that point will have learned of the imposition of the NCAA sanctions and who's coach will be enjoying repeat viewings of Dead Man Walking on his office flat screen tv, to shock the press row crowd with a 3rd place division finish.
Ozzie is spelled with an "ie", not a "y", at least by me. But spelling police issues aside, I like your thinking too! :cool:

I like your thinking, Bob.

Maybe we have a new shorthand for the ultimate optimism: "OO"?
Ummm, I'll have to think about that for a while. :cool:

Perhaps this would be a good place to upload my can of Bill Foster's Gene Banks repellent... http://www.crazietalk.net/ourhouse/images/smilies/4.gif

CameronBornAndBred
07-26-2011, 11:03 AM
Cutcliffe says we aren't good enough.

“I’m excited about our guys. Our athleticism is better, our speed is better up front, are we good enough yet? I certainly wouldn’t go that far,” Cutcliffe admitted.
I think it's a mix of honest assessment and locker room motivation.
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/duke/story/9906892/

pbc2
07-27-2011, 10:46 AM
Sure would be nice for the Blue Devils to enter the October 8th off week on at least a two game winning streak. In order to do that, they'll have to go down to Miami and pull out a win against the Sun Belt preseason favorites, Florida International (http://bit.ly/ocIcsC).

watzone
07-27-2011, 03:46 PM
http://bluedevilnation.net/2011/07/exclusive-video-from-bdn-coach-cutcliffe-part-ii-and-iii/ Cutcliffe video interview, part 2 and 3 posted.

pbc2
07-29-2011, 11:31 AM
BDN's Football Friday (http://bit.ly/p5gIBt) takes an in-depth look at the 2011 Duke Offense this week.

Training camp just 10 days away!

Olympic Fan
07-29-2011, 12:15 PM
Cutcliffe says we aren't good enough.

I think it's a mix of honest assessment and locker room motivation.
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/duke/story/9906892/

I think the "not good enough" quote is taken a bit out of context. Not good enough for what -- to win the ACC (which is his announced goal) ... to win tha national championship? ... to win sixgames and go to a bowl?

The progress the program has made in three years under Cut is amazing. Yeah, 12 wins in three seasons is nothing to cheer about, but considering the program won just two games total in the previous three years, it's pretty substantial progress. In fact, it's more wins in three years than Duke won in the first eight years of this century (10 wins between 2000 and 2007).

Cut also said in Pinehurst "We're close." Last year showed that -- just three wins, but six losses in games where Duke was in position to win in the final minutes. And that doesn't count Army, which Duke should have won -- but the team played shellshocked after the Alabama loss (win or lose, I hope the team handles the Stanford game this season better ... the 'Bama game in 2010 is a classic case of letting a team beat you twice).

I can't get angry that the media picked Duke last in the division. I know the Devils have beaten Virginia three straight times, but heck, Wake has beaten us 11 straight times and a lot of us are counting on the Wake game as a win. For the media, I think the fact that Duke has won more than one ACC game just twice in this century (2 wins in 2004 and 3 wins in 2009) probably had something to do with the vote.

I look at this season with guarded optimism. I love where the offense is. I think Sean will be the best QB in the ACC and he'll have the best crop of receivers. I think the running game will be better and the offensive line is coming of age. We have the best placekicker in the ACC and one of the best punters. We have a deep, talented crop of safeties -- on another team, Matt Daniels would be preseason All-ACC.

But the defensive front remains a question mark. Our one ACC-quality LB is coming off knee surgery. We have one proven ACC DL (Hatcher). We do have a lot of promising kids -- a ton of redshirts from last year. If three or four of those kids contribute, Duke can go bowling.

Nothing will come easy -- even the opener against Richmond is no gimmie -- we all know they've won the last two times they've come to Wade. But I don't think it's unreasonable to hope to win three of four non-conference games (somethin Cut did in 2008) and three ACC games (something Cut did in 2009). Do that and we hve our six wins and a bowl trip.

Duke of Nashville
07-29-2011, 03:26 PM
BDN's Football Friday (http://bit.ly/p5gIBt) takes an in-depth look at the 2011 Duke Offense this week.

Training camp just 10 days away!

Wow! What an awesome Football Friday! I can't wait for the season to start! Go Duke! The Future is bring for the Duke Gang! ; )

Devil in the Blue Dress
07-29-2011, 07:33 PM
Wow! What an awesome Football Friday! I can't wait for the season to start! Go Duke! The Future is bring for the Duke Gang! ; )
I've got my football Advent calendar going. After reading this edition of Football Friday, I'm ready to add sparklers or fireworks in the evening.:cool:

Bob Green
07-29-2011, 08:18 PM
GoDuke has an article up on Duke's defense:

http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?&ATCLID=205214852&DB_OEM_ID=4200

A couple of key excerpts:

1. Discussing Defensive Coordinator Jim Knowles, "Knowles brings with him an advanced knowledge of the 4-2-5 defensive formation Duke will employ for a majority of its snaps this season."

2. Defensive leader Matt Daniels, "We're going to be applying a lot of pressure, with pressure come turnovers."

3. Linebacker Kelby Brown, "I want to see big plays, I want to see sacks and interceptions."

The last sentence of the article is very optimistic:

"Coach Knowles is a mastermind when it comes to defensive schemes," said Anunike. "Expect big things. Were going to make something happen this year in the ACC."

CameronBornAndBred
07-30-2011, 12:12 AM
I've got my football Advent calendar going. After reading this edition of Football Friday, I'm ready to add sparklers or fireworks in the evening.:cool:
My favorite calendar! I'm looking forward to the post Spiders fireworks. :cool:

Bob Green
07-30-2011, 12:15 AM
My favorite calendar! I'm looking forward to the post Spiders fireworks. :cool:

Hey, CB&B, nice new avatar...football season must be rapidly approaching. :cool:

CameronBornAndBred
07-30-2011, 08:57 AM
Hey, CB&B, nice new avatar...football season must be rapidly approaching. :cool:
Yup! I'm so ready to tailgate!!!

uh_no
07-30-2011, 05:20 PM
Yup! I'm so ready to tailgate!!!

I thought they cancelled tailgate :P

CameronBornAndBred
07-30-2011, 09:48 PM
I thought they cancelled tailgate :P
Can't cancel perfection.
1957

CameronBornAndBred
08-02-2011, 08:40 AM
Al Featherston asks five important questions as he looks to this year's season.

1. Can Duke upgrade the ACC’s worst defensive front?
2. Is Sean Renfree an all-star quarterback?
3. Will experience, and a better pass rush, improve the cornerback play?
4. Can Duke find the two linebackers it needs for its 4-2-5 scheme?
5. Will there finally be a running game?

Of course you will have to check out the article for the answers, but as always with Featherston's writing, it's well worth the read.
http://www.accsports.com/articles/2011080110737/five-questions-duke.php

pbc2
08-02-2011, 09:25 AM
Great read by Al!

BDN's in-depth opponent previews continue with Florida State (http://bit.ly/oaWRjA).

killerleft
08-09-2011, 09:03 AM
Headline linked on front page of DBR:

"Duke ready to strike back"

Please strike back, Devils. Please strike back. It's time. And I'll be there!

Go Duke!

uh_no
08-09-2011, 09:10 AM
Headline linked on front page of DBR:

"Duke ready to strike back"

Please strike back, Devils. Please strike back. It's time. And I'll be there!

Go Duke!

I would have preferred "the return of the devils"....because that implies we're the good guys

watzone
08-09-2011, 09:14 AM
Football practice kicked off in the sweltering North Carolina heat yesterday and lots of reports and interviews will be coming in the next few weeks. The team will be in full pads this Friday and on the field again today. Media Day takes place tomorrow as well. It was cool seeing the new facility in the backdrop and it is quite impressive inside as well.

Here is an interview with Duke senior WR Donovan Varner -

http://bluedevilnation.net/2011/08/bdn-video-donovan-varner-just-wants-to-win/

And here is another video interview with TE Cooper Helfet -

http://bluedevilnation.net/2011/08/bdn-video-goes-one-on-one-with-duke-te-cooper-helfet/

pbc2
08-11-2011, 06:38 PM
Lots of coverage out around the web from yesterday's media day:

Kelby Brown (http://bit.ly/qsIsaa)

Coach Cutcliffe (http://bit.ly/oKsA8X)

Bob Green
08-11-2011, 10:38 PM
GoDuke has an Al Featherston article posted:

http://www.goduke.com//ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=205241547

the article is full of quotes from the coaches and players.

pbc2
08-12-2011, 10:19 AM
Great read on what it's like to be a Duke Football fan: http://www.dukehoopblog.com/2011/08/10/red-eyes-black-hearts-cant-lose/

Football Friday: http://bluedevilnation.net/2011/08/football-friday-8-12-11/

CDu
08-12-2011, 10:44 AM
If we're going to be bowl bound this year, we're going to have to win on the road. We've got 3 very winnable non-conference games with Richmond, Tulane, and @FIU. However, all three of those are very losable too. I'd say we have to win at least 2 of those three to have a shot at a bowl this year. I think we got some bad fortune in terms of getting FSU and Va Tech as two of our home games, because FSU is supposed to be really good and Va Tech has a fan base that travels so well that it will be sort of like a home game for them anyway. Getting Ga Tech at home is nice because they may be beatable this year. And we've had success the last three years against UVa, so hopefully we can continue that on the road.

If we can go 3-1 out of conference and beat UVa and Ga Tech, we're one win away from bowl eligibility. I don't see us beating FSU, Va Tech, or Stanford. That would leave @BC, Wake, @Miami, and @UNC as the possibilities. The Wake Forest game (which has been a bugaboo for us recently) would seem like the option.

It'll be tough, as several of those are swing games and there aren't any "slam dunk" wins on this year's schedule. But it's definitely doable. Hopefully things fall into place this year and we get our first bowl game since before I was even thinking about colleges.

Bob Green
08-13-2011, 10:04 AM
Here is a video clip interview of defensive coordinator Jim Knowles followed by a look at the 4-2-5 defense:

http://bluedevilnation.net/2011/08/jim-knowles-duke-media-day/

The defense needs to take a big step forward this year.

PDDuke85
08-14-2011, 11:48 AM
http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=205242765&DB_OEM_ID=4200

Not a good beginning. Time to put that depth chart into action

Olympic Fan
08-14-2011, 12:19 PM
Moore's broken arm is a blow -- he's a solid, veteran OL and he seemed to be handling the switch from OG to C very well.

But it should not be a crushing blow. While Conor Irwin is the nominal backup, my guess is that David Harding will move over from guard and take over the starting center job. Redshirt freshman Laken Tomlison, a monster prospect, is ready to start in Harding's guard spot. So if Harding can handle the move (no reason he can't), we'd essentially be trading Tomlinson for Moore on the OL -- and while you lose a little experience there (and a little depth), you gain size and potential.

The indefinite loss of Nick Sink hurts too -- he was one of six of the redshirt DLs who was slated to be in the rotation. He's totally unproven, of course, so we don't know what we're missing ... plus Jamal Bruce is a slightly better player at that DT position ... still, it would be nice to get Nick back. Indefinite is scary.

The Lex Butler situation is sad. He has never come all the way back from an injury he suffered in high school before enrolling at Duke. He was pretty far down the depth chart going into this season, so it's not a big loss for this year's team ... still it's sad for a guy who by all accounts is a quality young man (the younger brother of starting DB Lee Butler).

peloton
08-14-2011, 02:39 PM
This is certainly not good news but at the same time, I'm fully confident that we have other players who can step in and adequately fill those roles. At the risk of sounding sarcastic (and that's not what I'm trying to be here), we've been hearing a good bit about our depth. Here's our chance to demonstrate that depth but more importantly, here's a chance for some young men to step up, *seize* their opportunity, and help contribute even more to the progress that the football program is making. Here's hoping that Brian, Lex, and Nick all recover fully from their injuries and can return to action soon. This sort of thing would've been debilitating to Duke teams of the past, but this ain't the same ol' Duke! Come on, Sept 3rd!

Devil in the Blue Dress
08-14-2011, 03:04 PM
This is certainly not good news but at the same time, I'm fully confident that we have other players who can step in and adequately fill those roles. At the risk of sounding sarcastic (and that's not what I'm trying to be here), we've been hearing a good bit about our depth. Here's our chance to demonstrate that depth but more importantly, here's a chance for some young men to step up, *seize* their opportunity, and help contribute even more to the progress that the football program is making. Here's hoping that Brian, Lex, and Nick all recover fully from their injuries and can return to action soon. This sort of thing would've been debilitating to Duke teams of the past, but this ain't the same ol' Duke! Come on, Sept 3rd!
When one guy steps up to fill this spot, there may be a domino effect in terms of opportunities for others on offense. While I would rather not have such injuries at all, at least the timing of this one allows some time for adjustments to be made.

CameronBornAndBred
08-14-2011, 05:04 PM
I liked Cut's attitude. "Inuries are a part of the game". Besides stating that, he also said this should be taken as on opportunity by those on the depth chart to step up. Hard to disagree. Yes, Brian's injury is pretty big, but it's also a window for someone else. Thad Lewis made the most of his window as a freshmen, I'll always remember that. Also, IF we are going to get injured, it's a great time of year to break your arm. Still 3 weeks away from our first game, he'll be back on the field before the end of the season. "Remember , remember the 5th of November". That's the day we face Miami in the month that we must win games.

Devil in the Blue Dress
08-14-2011, 05:07 PM
I liked Cut's attitude. "Inuries are a part of the game". Besides stating that, he also said this should be taken as on opportunity by those on the depth chart to step up. Hard to disagree. Yes, Brian's injury is pretty big, but it's also a window for someone else. Thad Lewis made the most of his window as a freshmen, I'll always remember that. Also, IF we are going to get injured, it's a great time of year to break your arm. Still 3 weeks away from our first game, he'll be back on the field before the end of the season. "Remember , remember the 5th of November". That's the day we face Miami in the month that we must win games.

In the background we have Duke Orthopedics making sure that Brian heals as well and as quickly as possible.

It's a huge opportunity for more than one guy to step up and be a play maker.

Jim3k
08-14-2011, 05:19 PM
In the background we have Duke Orthopedics making sure that Brian heals as well and as quickly as possible.


You heal as fast as you heal.

I am still in the fifth week of recovery from a pinky non-displacement break. The ortho man said it would be a minimum of six weeks. Dunno about Moore's break--if displaced, it might be more than six; plus, I suspect an arm bone (not sure which one he broke) will take longer, since any of them is much bigger than my pinky. No matter what, it will be immobilized for a time and require a certain amount of rehab. Let's just hope it heals well and not worry about speed.

Indoor66
08-14-2011, 05:32 PM
You heal as fast as you heal.

I am still in the fifth week of recovery from a pinky non-displacement break. The ortho man said it would be a minimum of six weeks. Dunno about Moore's break--if displaced, it might be more than six; plus, I suspect an arm bone (not sure which one he broke) will take longer, since any of them is much bigger than my pinky. No matter what, it will be immobilized for a time and require a certain amount of rehab. Let's just hope it heals well and not worry about speed.

But, remember Jim, he is <20 and you are >???.

Jim3k
08-14-2011, 05:51 PM
But, remember Jim, he is <20 and you are >???.

Older than dirt.

Even though I was a gym rat and skier, I never broke anything until I was over 50. Still, if he heals faster than six weeks, I'd be surprised.

OZZIE4DUKE
08-14-2011, 06:16 PM
In the background we have Duke Orthopedics making sure that Brian heals as well and as quickly as possible.

It's a huge opportunity for more than one guy to step up and be a play maker.


You heal as fast as you heal.

I am still in the fifth week of recovery from a pinky non-displacement break. The ortho man said it would be a minimum of six weeks. Dunno about Moore's break--if displaced, it might be more than six; plus, I suspect an arm bone (not sure which one he broke) will take longer, since any of them is much bigger than my pinky. No matter what, it will be immobilized for a time and require a certain amount of rehab. Let's just hope it heals well and not worry about speed.


But, remember Jim, he is <20 and you are >???.


Older than dirt.

Even though I was a gym rat and skier, I never broke anything until I was over 50. Still, if he heals faster than six weeks, I'd be surprised.
If it's displaced he'll have surgery and pins put in to help the healing as appropriate. If a weight-bearing bone like the fifth metatarsal heals in 6 to 8 weeks, allowing a 250+ pound player to return to the basketball court, I'd think a lineman could play with his arm in an approved soft cast in less time than that, even if Brian has to play guard and not center (if it's his snapping arm, and I don't know if it is.)

jimsumner
08-14-2011, 10:23 PM
I suspect there's not a lot you can do to make a broken arm heal faster. Fertilizer, judicious watering, soothing words, a little Mozart?

Sorry. That's tomatoes.

I agree with Olympic Fan that moving Harding might be the logical move. If Irwin were ready to start at the ACC level, Moore likely would not have been moved in the spring.

Keep in mind that Moore was redshirted as a freshman, so that's not on the table. When he's ready, there won't be any decision to be made in that area.

Still, it's a shame for Moore. He and Renfree worked a lot this summer on the center/QB exchanges. It sounds simple. But when a 300-pound NG is inches from your face, ready to explode in an instant, then it's nice to have some reps to fall back on. And centers do have some responsibilities in calling out and changing blocking schemes, so that's also something that has to be learned.

In the best-of-all-possible worlds, your starting OL would be fifth-year seniors and fourth-year juniors, with the youngsters on the second team, waiting to move up. If Harding does move over, Duke would be replacing a fourth-year junior with a redshirt freshman, leaving Kyle Hill as the only upperclass starter on the OL. Irwin is a redshirt junior but has played sparingly. So, either way, Duke loses experience in the area where experience matters most. So, that's a real concern.

CameronBornAndBred
08-15-2011, 07:40 PM
I was digging through some old photos tonight, and found this. Pretty amazing how that sidewalk looked for Coach Cut's first Devil Walk, and how it looks now. He's made an incredible difference.

1987

CameronBornAndBred
08-15-2011, 08:19 PM
I was digging through some old photos tonight, and found this. Pretty amazing how that sidewalk looked for Coach Cut's first Devil Walk, and how it looks now. He's made an incredible difference.

1987

For those that can't make the games, this is how the same sidewalk looks now. This is from the Elon game last year.

1988

devildeac
08-15-2011, 08:29 PM
I was digging through some old photos tonight, and found this. Pretty amazing how that sidewalk looked for Coach Cut's first Devil Walk, and how it looks now. He's made an incredible difference.

1987


For those that can't make the games, this is how the same sidewalk looks now. This is from the Elon game last year.

1988

And the guy with the funny hat and those 2 Duke dignitaries will still be there:D.

OZZIE4DUKE
08-15-2011, 08:59 PM
And the guy with the funny hat and those 2 Duke dignitaries will still be there:D.
You can bet your bippie we will be! At least I will be; and I expect Dr. White will be there too :D Can't wait for Saturday's scrimmage/open practice and the start of the season on Sept. 3rd!

OldPhiKap
08-16-2011, 09:05 AM
You can bet your bippie we will be! At least I will be; and I expect Dr. White will be there too :D Can't wait for Saturday's scrimmage/open practice and the start of the season on Sept. 3rd!

I am not a NC lawyer, but I am pretty sure that bippie betting is still illegal. So be careful out there.

watzone
08-19-2011, 12:54 PM
Check out this video of OC Roper drilling the Duke QB's in the new practice facility. 15 days before kickoff! Watch #Duke QB's drill in the new practice facility via BDN Video - http://bluedevilnation.net/2011/08/football-practice-reports-keep-coming/

nmduke2001
08-19-2011, 05:38 PM
Check out this video of OC Roper drilling the Duke QB's in the new practice facility. 15 days before kickoff! Watch #Duke QB's drill in the new practice facility via BDN Video - http://bluedevilnation.net/2011/08/football-practice-reports-keep-coming/

Thanks for posting.

Bold prediction; Sean Renfree outplays Andrew Luck and Duke wins the battle of the smart guys...

pbc2
08-19-2011, 11:43 PM
Nice highlights from tonight's scrimmage: http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=205245414&DB_OEM_ID=4200

Connette went down with an injury, don't know severity yet.

Jim3k
08-20-2011, 04:56 AM
This is via the Sports Network (http://www.latimes.com/sports/sns-tsn-afn-duke-outlook-20110818,0,2112175.story) and is not bylined.

OZZIE4DUKE
08-20-2011, 08:24 AM
Bold prediction; Sean Renfree outplays Andrew Luck and Duke wins the battle of the smart guys...
Welcome to my world, my friend! :cool:

Rogue
08-20-2011, 10:43 AM
Welcome to my world, my friend! :cool:



Opinions:
Will Andrew Luck be the best quarterback to play at Wallace Wade since Roger Staubach in 1963 ??

Bob Green
08-20-2011, 10:52 AM
Opinions:
Will Andrew Luck be the best quarterback to play at Wallace Wade since Roger Staubach in 1963 ??

I'm optimistic Sean Renfree will be the best quarterback to play at Wallace Wade since Roger Staubach in 1963. Renfree has the potential to be really, really good this season. As a fan base, we shouldn't sell him short. Yes, he threw too many interceptions last year, but it was his first season as full time starter and he wasn't 100 percent recovered from his knee injury (mentally). I expect a healthy and confident Renfree will throw a lot more touchdowns than interceptions in 2011. Will he be better than Andrew Luck? We will all start finding out on September 10 when the two go head-to-head.

Acymetric
08-20-2011, 11:01 AM
I'm optimistic Sean Renfree will be the best quarterback to play at Wallace Wade since Roger Staubach in 1963. Renfree has the potential to be really, really good this season. As a fan base, we shouldn't sell him short. Yes, he threw too many interceptions last year, but it was his first season as full time starter and he wasn't 100 percent recovered from his knee injury (mentally). I expect a healthy and confident Renfree will throw a lot more touchdowns than interceptions in 2011. Will he be better than Andrew Luck? We will all start finding out on September 10 when the two go head-to-head.

His TD-Int ratio would've looked a lot better if he ever got to play inside the 20 yard line too.

jimsumner
08-20-2011, 11:40 AM
Charlie Ward played in Wade the year he won the Heisman (1993).

So, perhaps that's the Post-Staubach bar we're shooting for.

nmduke2001
08-20-2011, 12:17 PM
I honestly believe that Renfree could be the best QB in the ACC. If Duke can make the Stanford game competitive and Renfree plays well, he will start to get national attention. That bodes well for Coach Cut since he is known as a QB coach. Recruiting will get much easier. Just my opinion.

OZZIE4DUKE
08-20-2011, 10:28 PM
With all due respect to you who don't know much about, care about, or follow Duke football, we've had several really damn fine quarterbacks over the last 30+ years, and I really hope Sean Renfree gets up to their level in the next two years. If he does, he'll be really special - he's got a pretty high bar to shoot for.

The first name on the list is about to be inducted into the Duke Hall of Fame on Sept. 9th - Ben Bennett. Anthony Dilweg had a great senior year; Dave Brown had great junior and senior years. And Thad Lewis was no slouch.

I'm looking forward to seeing Andrew Luck on Sept. 10th. I'm looking forward to seeing him go back to California after a losing effort.

devildeac
08-21-2011, 12:17 AM
From espn's fingertips to God's ears:

http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/27649/preseason-bowl-projections

You just never know...

Olympic Fan
08-21-2011, 12:49 AM
Dave Brown had great junior and senior years. And Thad Lewis was no slouch.



Not to disagree with the main thrust of your post, but I should point out that Dave Brown didn't play at Duke as a senior. He replaced an injured Billy Ray for the last three games of the 1989 season, when he was a freshman. He threw for 444 yards and 4 TDs in a win over Wake; 374 and 4 TDs in a win over NC State; and 479 yards and 3 TDs in a 41-0 win over UNC.

As a sophomore in 1990, he split time with Ray and threw for 1,444 yards, 8 TDs. As a junior in 1991, he was the fulltime starter and threw for 2,794 yards and 20 TDs.

On May 1, 1992, Brown announced that he was leaving school before his senior year. He was the first player taken in the NFL supplemental draft by the New York Giants. He ended up starting 60 games in the NFL, throwing for 10,248 yards and 44 TDs.

And as you said Thad Lewis was no slouch -- he finished his career as the No. 2 caree passer in ACC historu.

But Anthony Dilweg, who backed up Steve Slayden for three seasons, had the best single season of any Duke QB in history in his one season as a starter -- 3,824 yards and 24 TDs.

OldPhiKap
08-21-2011, 11:20 AM
From espn's fingertips to God's ears:

http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/27649/preseason-bowl-projections

You just never know...

San Francisco is a great place to celebrate the New Year.

CameronBornAndBred
08-21-2011, 11:24 AM
San Francisco is a great place to celebrate the New Year.
It's also not possible, according to the bowl itself.

Kickoff for the nationally-televised ESPN contest is 12:30 p.m. [PST] on December 31, 2011. The game will feature a Pac-12 team vs. Army.

http://www.kraftbowl.org/sports/m-footb ... 11aaa.html

Bob Green
08-21-2011, 11:34 AM
It's also not possible, according to the bowl itself.

http://www.kraftbowl.org/sports/m-footb ... 11aaa.html

The caveat is Army has to be bowl eligible. If Army doesn't win the requisite number of games, the door opens for another team to play in the Kraft Hunger Bowl.

CameronBornAndBred
08-21-2011, 11:39 AM
The caveat is Army has to be bowl eligible. If Army doesn't win the requisite number of games, the door opens for another team to play in the Kraft Hunger Bowl.
Very true! (Honestly I think HD is right and we go bowling, but I hope it's to one I can drive to.)

Bob Green
08-21-2011, 11:53 AM
Very true! (Honestly I think HD is right and we go bowling, but I hope it's to one I can drive to.)

I recommend I-80 West...San Francisco is an interesting city. :D I lived nearby (Vallejo) for seven months back in 1982.

OZZIE4DUKE
08-21-2011, 11:54 AM
Anthony Dilweg had a great senior year; Dave Brown had great junior and senior years.


Not to disagree with the main thrust of your post, but I should point out that Dave Brown didn't play at Duke as a senior. He replaced an injured Billy Ray for the last three games of the 1989 season, when he was a freshman. He threw for 444 yards and 4 TDs in a win over Wake; 374 and 4 TDs in a win over NC State; and 479 yards and 3 TDs in a 41-0 win over UNC.

As a sophomore in 1990, he split time with Ray and threw for 1,444 yards, 8 TDs. As a junior in 1991, he was the fulltime starter and threw for 2,794 yards and 20 TDs.

On May 1, 1992, Brown announced that he was leaving school before his senior year. He was the first player taken in the NFL supplemental draft by the New York Giants. He ended up starting 60 games in the NFL, throwing for 10,248 yards and 44 TDs.

And as you said Thad Lewis was no slouch -- he finished his career as the No. 2 caree passer in ACC historu.

But Anthony Dilweg, who backed up Steve Slayden for three seasons, had the best single season of any Duke QB in history in his one season as a starter -- 3,824 yards and 24 TDs.
Not wanting to rely on my aging memory before posting yesterday, I pulled out one of my Duke Football media guides that we used to get as Iron Dukes/season ticket holders, in this case the 2007 soft cover edition, just in case you want to refer to your copy. On page 193, center column, under the category "Annual Leaders" in the Passing category, it lists
1988 Anthony Dilweg (Sr.) 3824 yards
1989 Billy Ray (Jr.) 2035 yards
1990 Dave Brown (Jr.) 1444 yards
1991 Dave Brown (Sr.) 2794 yards

So that's why I said Brown played his junior and senior seasons - it's in the media guide. I knew Brown went to the Giants in the Supplemental Draft, although I couldn't remember why. Perhaps he was a red-shirt junior and still had a year of illegibility left and the media guide, in retrospect, called him a senior?

devildeac
08-21-2011, 12:01 PM
Not wanting to rely on my aging memory before posting yesterday, I pulled out one of my Duke Football media guides that we used to get as Iron Dukes/season ticket holders, in this case the 2007 soft cover edition, just in case you want to refer to your copy. On page 193, center column, under the category "Annual Leaders" in the Passing category, it lists
1988 Anthony Dilweg (Sr.) 3824 yards
1989 Billy Ray (Jr.) 2035 yards
1990 Dave Brown (Jr.) 1444 yards
1991 Dave Brown (Sr.) 2794 yards

So that's why I said Brown played his junior and senior seasons - it's in the media guide. I knew Brown went to the Giants in the Supplemental Draft, although I couldn't remember why. Perhaps he was a red-shirt junior and still had a year of illegibility left and the media guide, in retrospect, called him a senior?

I think you may be referring to mcadoo, unc and their tutor program with that sentence, Oz. (Sorry, just couldn't resist:))

Olympic Fan
08-21-2011, 01:00 PM
Not wanting to rely on my aging memory before posting yesterday, I pulled out one of my Duke Football media guides that we used to get as Iron Dukes/season ticket holders, in this case the 2007 soft cover edition, just in case you want to refer to your copy. On page 193, center column, under the category "Annual Leaders" in the Passing category, it lists
1988 Anthony Dilweg (Sr.) 3824 yards
1989 Billy Ray (Jr.) 2035 yards
1990 Dave Brown (Jr.) 1444 yards
1991 Dave Brown (Sr.) 2794 yards

So that's why I said Brown played his junior and senior seasons - it's in the media guide. I knew Brown went to the Giants in the Supplemental Draft, although I couldn't remember why. Perhaps he was a red-shirt junior and still had a year of illegibility left and the media guide, in retrospect, called him a senior?

I see what you're talking about ... the annual leader list is incorrect. If you check a little earlier (it's on page 128 of the 2011 guide) there's a more complete summation of Brown's career, which includes the notation that he was redshirted in 1988. However, you want to parse it, he had one great season ... plus three great games at the end of the 1989 season. In 1990, his numbers were modest because he was splitting time with Ray (Brown had 1,444 yards 8 TDs and 12 ints; Ray had 1,247 yards, 8 TDs and 5 int). Both were hurt when Spurrier left ... it's amazing to see how far their passing efficiency declined under Barry Wilson.

But, as I said, overall I agree with your assertion that we've been blessed with a number of great quarterbacks -- even before Bennett, Mike Dunn was superb for four seasons in the mid-1970s. Spurrier gave us Bennett, Slayden, Dilweg, Ray and Brown. We got a couple of nice seasons from Spence Fisher under Goldsmith, then there was a long drought of mediocrity before Cutcliffe arrived and turned Thad Lewis into a stud (his last two years are amazingly better than his first two -- part of that, of course, due to experience, but part due to Coach Cut) and now Renfree. The last two years are almost always a QB's best and if his final two seasons are better than his last one, he's going to be the best of all.

killerleft
08-21-2011, 01:43 PM
Don't forget Sonny Jurgensen. Only Bill Murray could hold one of pro football's future all-time passers to 1,119 passing yards for his CAREER. Jurgy did intercept 10 passes as a defensive back!

duke blue brewcrew
08-21-2011, 01:55 PM
Very true! (Honestly I think HD is right and we go bowling, but I hope it's to one I can drive to.)

If Duke is fortunate enough to make it to a bowl, I'm hoping/praying it's somewhere in the Southeast

Reilly
08-21-2011, 02:25 PM
The caveat is Army has to be bowl eligible. If Army doesn't win the requisite number of games, the door opens for another team to play in the Kraft Hunger Bowl.

Pac-12 has to hold up its end of the bargain, too: "Should the Pac-12 fail to qualify enough teams to supply a team to the KFHB, or should Army fail to become bowl eligible, the Bowl has backup agreements with the MAC, ACC and WAC to provide a replacement team."

Don't know the pecking order among the MAC, ACC and WAC, or who gets to make that call (for example, is the ACC team in if there's an opening, or can the bowl decide among the three conferences ....)

jimsumner
08-21-2011, 04:44 PM
If we're talking about great Duke quarterbacks since Staubach, the discussion has to start with Leo Hart.

killerleft
08-21-2011, 04:54 PM
If we're talking about great Duke quarterbacks since Staubach, the discussion has to start with Leo Hart.

My hero. The classic drop-back QB. And he could definitely bend over and tie his shoe at the same time:D.

Wander
08-21-2011, 05:30 PM
The path to bowl eligibility is there. We need to go into the bye week 3-2. That's a loss to Stanford, and three out of four wins against Richmond, FIU, Tulane, and BC. After that, take Wake Forest at home and UVA on the road, and then sneak in an upset at home against Georgia Tech (or, less likely, hope that UNC or Miami goes into a tailspin as a result of their off-field issues).

You still can't take anything for granted with Duke football, but we've got a real shot.

OZZIE4DUKE
08-21-2011, 08:24 PM
I think you may be referring to mcadoo, unc and their tutor program with that sentence, Oz. (Sorry, just couldn't resist:))
I'll blame my spell checker and clicking on the wrong correction there. Two "pilot errors" there; I knew the first one, wasn't worried about the misspelling because I was relying on the spell checker to correct it. Clicking on the wrong correction WAS my fault. Should have put my glasses on, or made the font bigger. :o

OZZIE4DUKE
08-21-2011, 08:27 PM
I see what you're talking about ... the annual leader list is incorrect. If you check a little earlier (it's on page 128 of the 2011 guide) there's a more complete summation of Brown's career, which includes the notation that he was redshirted in 1988. However, you want to parse it, he had one great season ... plus three great games at the end of the 1989 season. In 1990, his numbers were modest because he was splitting time with Ray (Brown had 1,444 yards 8 TDs and 12 ints; Ray had 1,247 yards, 8 TDs and 5 int). Both were hurt when Spurrier left ... it's amazing to see how far their passing efficiency declined under Barry Wilson.

But, as I said, overall I agree with your assertion that we've been blessed with a number of great quarterbacks -- even before Bennett, Mike Dunn was superb for four seasons in the mid-1970s. Spurrier gave us Bennett, Slayden, Dilweg, Ray and Brown. We got a couple of nice seasons from Spence Fisher under Goldsmith, then there was a long drought of mediocrity before Cutcliffe arrived and turned Thad Lewis into a stud (his last two years are amazingly better than his first two -- part of that, of course, due to experience, but part due to Coach Cut) and now Renfree. The last two years are almost always a QB's best and if his final two seasons are better than his last one, he's going to be the best of all.
I don't have the 2011 Media Guide. Duke stopped sending them out free because the damn NCAA changed the rules two or three years ago so bigger schools wouldn't have and advantage over the poorer ones, so I/we don't get 'em for free anymore. First they went from hard cover to soft cover, then they stopped them altogether. Grrrrrr. Same for basketball. No more media guides/yearbooks from the Iron Dukes.

Bob Green
08-21-2011, 08:30 PM
I don't have the 2011 Media Guide. Duke stopped sending them out free because the damn NCAA changed the rules two or three years ago so bigger schools wouldn't have and advantage over the poorer ones, so I/we don't get 'em for free anymore. First they went from hard cover to soft cover, then they stopped them altogether. Grrrrrr. Same for basketball. No more media guides/yearbooks from the Iron Dukes.

The 2011 Media Guide is available for free download at GoDuke.com:

http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=22695&SPID=1843&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=205184920

Acymetric
08-21-2011, 08:32 PM
I don't have the 2011 Media Guide. Duke stopped sending them out free because the damn NCAA changed the rules two or three years ago so bigger schools wouldn't have and advantage over the poorer ones, so I/we don't get 'em for free anymore. First they went from hard cover to soft cover, then they stopped them altogether. Grrrrrr. Same for basketball. No more media guides/yearbooks from the Iron Dukes.

They do make them available for free as a PDF (http://www.goduke.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=4200&SPID=1843&SPSID=22695) on goduke.com if you wanted to check it out.

OZZIE4DUKE
08-21-2011, 09:48 PM
The 2011 Media Guide is available for free download at GoDuke.com:

http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=22695&SPID=1843&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=205184920


They do make them available for free as a PDF (http://www.goduke.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=4200&SPID=1843&SPSID=22695) on goduke.com if you wanted to check it out.
Thanks to you both! I didn't know that. :cool: Zporkz forthcoming!

pbc2
08-23-2011, 09:51 PM
Report from tonight's scrimmage: http://bluedevilnation.net/2011/08/renfree-highlights-60-snap-scrimmage/

Dev11
08-23-2011, 09:54 PM
CBS College Sports RIGHT NOW: Duke vs. Navy 2010. The third quarter is about to end, the defense is about to totally implode, but sources tell me everything ends up ok...

devildeac
08-23-2011, 10:01 PM
CBS College Sports RIGHT NOW: Duke vs. Navy 2010. The third quarter is about to end, the defense is about to totally implode, but sources tell me everything ends up ok...

And the sunset pix from that evening are simply fabulous, even from the TV shots/angles. Makes me wish we had attended that game.

OZZIE4DUKE
08-23-2011, 10:12 PM
Report from tonight's scrimmage: http://bluedevilnation.net/2011/08/renfree-highlights-60-snap-scrimmage/

“Josh Snead got hurt yesterday,” Cutcliffe said. “We’ll wait for further evaluation by our medical staff before giving an update.
I sure hope Josh is OK. Gotta root for my local player!

Bob Green
08-23-2011, 10:45 PM
I sure hope Josh is OK. Gotta root for my local player!

The injuries are starting to stack up. I hope Josh Snead is okay. We really need to make marked improvement running the ball but it sounds like we are down to two healthy running backs (Desmond Scott and Juwon Thompson).

Winning at sports often comes down to which team accomplishes the fundamentals best and successfully running the ball is fundamental football.

devildeac
08-23-2011, 10:54 PM
The injuries are starting to stack up. I hope Josh Snead is okay. We really need to make marked improvement running the ball but it sounds like we are down to two healthy running backs (Desmond Scott and Juwon Thompson).

Winning at sports often comes down to which team accomplishes the fundamentals best and successfully running the ball is fundamental football.

Hollingsworth and Kurunwune are still listed on the roster I just checked as RB, but you are correct, our depth is not so much so in the backfield at this time. Have either of them been moved to DB?

Bob Green
08-23-2011, 10:59 PM
Hollingsworth and Kurunwune are still listed on the roster I just checked as RB, but you are correct, our depth is not so much so in the backfield at this time. Have either of them been moved to DB?

The full quote from the linked article:


“Josh Snead got hurt yesterday,” Cutcliffe said. “We’ll wait for further evaluation by our medical staff before giving an update. Patrick has missed some time. Jay (Hollingsworth) has missed some time. You do the math.”

duke blue brewcrew
08-23-2011, 11:04 PM
I sure hope Josh is OK. Gotta root for my local player!

I think that Duke, for the first time in a LONG time, has a chance to do some damage this season on the ground with a healthy trio of Scott, Snead and Thompson leading the charge! A more balanced attack can only help our boys in those classic close Duke games where the Blue Devils seem to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory more times than not coming down the stretch. Solid run game = Increased time of possession = Less time our young D is on the field = Reduced risk of INTs by Renfree => Bowl Season!

devildeac
08-23-2011, 11:05 PM
The full quote from the linked article:


This guy might get some running plays called for him, too:

#18 Brandon Connette
Position: Quarterback
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 225
Year: Sophomore
City/State: Corona, Calif.
High School: Santiago

;)

Acymetric
08-23-2011, 11:10 PM
This guy might get some running plays called for him, too:

#18 Brandon Connette
Position: Quarterback
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 225
Year: Sophomore
City/State: Corona, Calif.
High School: Santiago

;)

Wouldn't hurt my feelings to switch him to RB period. Get him and Sean in the game at the same time.

-bdbd
08-24-2011, 02:06 AM
I think that Duke, for the first time in a LONG time, has a chance to do some damage this season on the ground with a healthy trio of Scott, Snead and Thompson leading the charge! A more balanced attack can only help our boys in those classic close Duke games where the Blue Devils seem to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory more times than not coming down the stretch. Solid run game = Increased time of possession = Less time our young D is on the field = Reduced risk of INTs by Renfree => Bowl Season!

Totally depends on the state of the O-line. If they keep getting injured, then it won't matter who's actually carrying the ball! Glad we finally have some depth up front, but we need our best 5 (or 7 or 8) to stay healthy!!

duke blue brewcrew
08-24-2011, 10:41 AM
Totally depends on the state of the O-line. If they keep getting injured, then it won't matter who's actually carrying the ball! Glad we finally have some depth up front, but we need our best 5 (or 7 or 8) to stay healthy!!

It's too early to tell, but from everything I've read coming out of camp, the O-Line (despite it's youth) hasn't been this solid or deep in a long time...even with the injury to Moore. Once the season gets rolling, we'll know for sure. Duke won't be without Moore's services for the entire season so the depth will improve. I'm hoping for some pleasant surprises this season, and truly believe that our boys will have no less than 5 wins when it's all said and done. If the Blue Devils can win the games they're supposed to and steal one or two they shouldn't, then a bowl game is a strong possibility. I live in Atlanta, but will be driving up to take my nephew to the Stanford game...can't wait! GO DUKE!

Olympic Fan
08-24-2011, 12:22 PM
It's too early to tell, but from everything I've read coming out of camp, the O-Line (despite it's youth) hasn't been this solid or deep in a long time...even with the injury to Moore. Once the season gets rolling, we'll know for sure. Duke won't be without Moore's services for the entire season so the depth will improve. I'm hoping for some pleasant surprises this season, and truly believe that our boys will have no less than 5 wins when it's all said and done. If the Blue Devils can win the games they're supposed to and steal one or two they shouldn't, then a bowl game is a strong possibility. I live in Atlanta, but will be driving up to take my nephew to the Stanford game...can't wait! GO DUKE!

Just an opinion, but Duke has seven quality offensive linemen -- not counting the four VERY good prospects in the freshman class.

The injury to Moore eliminates one, at least temporarily. But there are still six -- Harding now at center, Tomlinson and Coleman at guard, Cofield at tackle, plus Hill and Simmons, who can play tackle or guard. That ability gives Cut some flexibity up front. I think Moore comes back fairly early, but at guard, not center (I know a lot of OL who have played with broken arms, but its his right arm and that would impede his snapping ability).

If there are more injuries and they have to go deeper, you'll start to see a dropoff. No knock on kids like Irwin, Finison or Needham, who will get in and try hard, but they are not at that level. In fact, if there's a long-term need for another lineman, I'd guess they'll burn a redshirt on one of the freshmen (Skura at center?) as much as they'd hate to do that.

The injuries at running back are worisome, although Hollingsworth did come back to play in Tuesday night's scrimmage -- he's solid, if not as talented as Snead, Thompson and Scott. BTW, Connette is also a bit banged up, but I understand he'll be back for the Richmond game.

Cut said 12 members of his two-deep missed Tuesday night's scrimmage, but that most of them should be ready for the opener. The good news is that Kelby Brown took part in contact and is looking very close to 100 percent.

Bob Green
08-24-2011, 01:59 PM
The Herald Sun has an article posted on Duke's current injuries:

http://www.heraldsun.com/view/full_story/15193493/article-Banged-up-Blue-Devils-catch-their-breath-?instance=main_article

Two injuries along the defensive line, Kenny Anunike and Jordan DeWalt-Ondijo, is especially worrisome as we cannot afford to be shorthanded there.

pbc2
08-24-2011, 09:26 PM
RE: Connette, he's nursing a bruised shoulder of his own. Snead has a foot injury.

BDN preview of the crucial home game against Wake Forest October 22 (http://bit.ly/rj8J9H).

OZZIE4DUKE
08-24-2011, 09:38 PM
RE: Connette, he's nursing a bruised shoulder of his own. Snead has a foot injury.

BDN preview of the crucial home game against Wake Forest October 22 (http://bit.ly/rj8J9H).
Connette got a stinger, delivered courtesy of Matt Daniels in Friday's scrimmage.

Any more details on Snead's foot injury? Severity, what it is or how long to recovery?

Olympic Fan
08-25-2011, 12:42 AM
Connette got a stinger, delivered courtesy of Matt Daniels in Friday's scrimmage.

Any more details on Snead's foot injury? Severity, what it is or how long to recovery?

Just to be accurate, Connette suffered his shoulder injury in Tuesday's scrimmage (it was curtosy of a Daniels hit) ... he did not dress out for Friday's scrimmage.

As I mentioned earlier, it does not look to be a long-term problem. Connette is expected back for the Richmond game.

Snead's injury is more worrisome ... no prognosis on how long he's out yet.

Anunike's injury is a concern -- he didn't play in any of the team's three scrimmages. Jordan DeWal-Ondijo's injury was really scary when it occured Friday and he was carried off the field, but after a few moments on the trainer's table, they taped a bag of ice to the knee and he got up and walked under his own power for the rest of the practice. Don't know for sure, but that seems to be a good sign.

pbc2
08-25-2011, 08:18 AM
Blue Devils host defending ACC Champs Virginia Tech to close out October schedule. BDN preview (http://bit.ly/nAcvzC)

CameronBornAndBred
08-26-2011, 09:54 AM
2025

With Irene on the way I'm making sure my tailgate trailer is loaded and parked in the triangle until next weekend. Just one week to go!!! Can we just camp out in the woods next to the Card lot for the next week? GO DUKE!!

Acymetric
08-27-2011, 05:05 PM
Just saw a couple freshmen trying on suits while I was getting one for myself (gotta look nice for those interviews right?). Can't we just move the game to 7:00pm today?

Reilly
08-27-2011, 05:10 PM
Just saw a couple freshmen trying on suits while I was getting one for myself (gotta look nice for those interviews right?). ....

I'm guessing the suits are for The Devil Walk, when the team assembles at the Main West bus stop 2.5 hours before kickoff, in suits, and then marches through Main West to the stadium .... hopefully Main West will be lined with students and fans ....

Last year or the year before, I saw one of the redshirting freshmen (guess he didn't stay in the hotel w/ the team and arrive on the bus w/ them) running to catch up with the Walk, tucking in his shirt, and I don't think he had on socks ... but he was wearing a suit (and presumably overslept) ... .

Acymetric
08-27-2011, 05:13 PM
I'm guessing the suits are for The Devil Walk, when the team assembles at the Main West bus stop 2.5 hours before kickoff, in suits, and then marches through Main West to the stadium .... hopefully Main West will be lined with students and fans ....

Last year or the year before, I saw one of the redshirting freshmen (guess he didn't stay in the hotel w/ the team and arrive on the bus w/ them) running to catch up with the Walk, tucking in his shirt, and I don't think he had on socks ... but he was wearing a suit (and presumably overslept) ... .

Right, that's what I assumed they were freshmen, since upperclassmen would already have a suit for the walk (also because they both looked smallish). Probably can't make all the walks, as I have to go into work sometimes early in the morning on Saturday so 9:30 a.m. would be tough but should be there for the first one this Saturday and plan to be at all the games. LGD!

OZZIE4DUKE
08-27-2011, 05:17 PM
Just saw a couple freshmen trying on suits while I was getting one for myself (gotta look nice for those interviews right?). Can't we just move the game to 7:00pm today?
Um, NO! Today would have been a terrible day for tailgating. Next Saturday, however, will be fabulous!:cool:

pbc2
08-29-2011, 07:40 AM
It's game week!

Last couple opponent previews before we get serious about Richmond.

Here's a look at the mess in Miami, with help from InsideTheU.com: BDN previews Duke at Miami (http://bit.ly/no2yU0)

pbc2
08-30-2011, 07:51 AM
DURHAM, N.C. – Duke head football coach David Cutcliffe announced on Monday the naming of Matt Daniels, Charlie Hatcher, Kyle Hill and Sean Renfree as team captains for the 2011 season. The individuals were elected by their teammates.

“I am confident this group of young men will represent our program in a manner that will make everyone associated with Duke University very proud,” Cutcliffe said. “These four players exemplify what our program is all about – the pursuit of excellence in everything we do. I couldn’t be more pleased with the choices our squad has made for the leadership of this year’s team.”



Today is "Bloody Tuesday," the team's last day in pads in prep for Richmond. 4 days left to kickoff!

jimsumner
08-30-2011, 03:12 PM
Some notes from Cut's press conference today.

Snead not looking good for Richmond. Should know more in a few days.

True freshmen expected to play include Jamison Crowder, Blair Holliday, David Helton, Jonathan Woodruff and Britton Grier.

Crowder is in the KR mix.

Look for Scott and Thompson to split time at TB. Hollingsworth might play and Kurunwune is getting healthy.

Jeffrey Farris and Preston Scott named game-co-captains. Reward for walk-ons.

Renfree really likes freshman WRs Crowder and Holliday. Expects both to contribute this season.

Sarmiento up to 295. He had nice things to say about Ingram. Duke expects increased depth on DL to lead to better 4th-quarter play.

Lots of buzz about Brandon Braxton. Hard-worker, enthusiastic, understands the system. Should give Duke three top wide-outs.

OldPhiKap
08-30-2011, 04:10 PM
Some notes from Cut's press conference today.

Snead not looking good for Richmond. Should know more in a few days.

True freshmen expected to play include Jamison Crowder, Blair Holliday, David Helton, Jonathan Woodruff and Britton Grier.

Crowder is in the KR mix.

Look for Scott and Thompson to split time at TB. Hollingsworth might play and Kurunwune is getting healthy.

Jeffrey Farris and Preston Scott named game-co-captains. Reward for walk-ons.

Renfree really likes freshman WRs Crowder and Holliday. Expects both to contribute this season.

Sarmiento up to 295. He had nice things to say about Ingram. Duke expects increased depth on DL to lead to better 4th-quarter play.

Lots of buzz about Brandon Braxton. Hard-worker, enthusiastic, understands the system. Should give Duke three top wide-outs.

Thanks, Jim. Any chatter about how the defense is adjusting to the new alignment, or how it will improve us on that side of the line?

jimsumner
08-30-2011, 04:34 PM
Thanks, Jim. Any chatter about how the defense is adjusting to the new alignment, or how it will improve us on that side of the line?

Well, they say they're going to be better. :)

Much of the talk concerns the DL. All of the redshirt freshmen give more depth, which allows more subs, which keeps everyone fresher, which leads to better 4th-quarter performance.

At least that's the theory. Getting consistent pressure on the opposing QB without having to blitz is a priority. Give the DBs a fighting chance. The proof is in the pudding, as they say.

Plus stopping the run. Sarmiento played at 280 last season, a bit on the small side for a DT. 295 is more like it. Hatcher is a 300-pound known commidity, while Ingram is a slimmed-down 300 pounds.

But Duke is very young at DE. Perhaps talented but inexperienced.

The idea behind the 4-2-5 is to "give the playmakers a chance to make plays." Confusing opposing teams is a bonus.

Speaking of playmakers, lots of people are expecting big things from Matt Daniels this season. And Kelby Brown looks to be close to 100% for the opener, which was not a sure thing last November.

The message from all concerned is that this team has been working exceptionally hard. No reason to doubt it. But then again, it's not like anyone's going to tell the media anything to the contrary.

It won't be long before we start getting some answers.


But, IMO, it's got to start with the DL.

Olympic Fan
08-30-2011, 04:40 PM
Thanks, Jim. Any chatter about how the defense is adjusting to the new alignment, or how it will improve us on that side of the line?

There's a famous quote: It's not the x's and o's ... it's the Jimmys and Joes.

The new alignment is not that big a deal. We actually switched to it midway through last season. Duke used it 85-90 percent of the time in 2009. The players like it ... it fits their personnel ... but it's no panacea.

But any real defensive improvement isn't going to depend on the scheme, it's going to to depend on whether we have the players to play it.

If Jordan DeWalt-Ondijo, Dez Johnson, Jamal Bruce and Steven Ingram are players, our defense will be okay ... if they struggle to adjust, we'll struggle on defense again -- no matter what alignment we're in.

It would help if we find another linebacker as good as Kelby Brown ... maybe David Helton?

OldPhiKap
08-30-2011, 05:10 PM
Thanks, Jim and Oly. Agreed that we need a deep pool of talent to compete, and the failure to pressure on the QB while also containing the run/draw was a big part of what we struggled with last year. We have an outstanding offense and, if our defense can start holding on those third downs, we could have a very good year. We should be improved on both sides of the ball.

RIP 'EM UP, TEAR 'EM UP, GIVE'M HELL DUKE!!!!

Acymetric
08-30-2011, 06:35 PM
True freshmen expected to play include Jamison Crowder, Blair Holliday, David Helton, Jonathan Woodruff and Britton Grier.


No specific mention of Kyler Brown? Just curious.

Really hope that Hollingsworth can get healthy and contribute this season, I've had a soft spot for him ever since he committed (I loved his high school film) and his amazing play against Virginia during out 30 point romp was my background for about a year.

jimsumner
08-30-2011, 06:36 PM
No specific mention of Kyler Brown? Just curious.

Really hope that Hollingsworth can get healthy and contribute this season, I've had a soft spot for him ever since he committed (I loved his high school film) and his amazing play against Virginia during out 30 point romp was my background for about a year.

Those were the five Cut specifically mentioned. It may not be exclusive.

Monday was conspiciously absent. King looks like the punter now. He's earned it.

Acymetric
08-30-2011, 06:39 PM
Those were the five Cut specifically mentioned. It may not be exclusive.

Monday was conspiciously absent. King looks like the punter now. He's earned it.

That makes a lot of sense to me, redshirt Will and give us four years of him. Alex did a great job last year.

jafarr1
08-30-2011, 06:52 PM
Some notes from Cut's press conference today.

True freshmen expected to play include Jamison Crowder, Blair Holliday, David Helton, Jonathan Woodruff and Britton Grier.


Couldn't help but notice that the true frosh included two WRs and three LBs, which seem like two very different situations. Our top three WRs seem locked, while only one of the LB slots seems claimed.

I can see wanting the additional WRs, because they can also contribute on special teams, and Cutcliffe likes to get his play-makers onto the field. But why are planning to burn three redshirts in our LB recruits from day one? Are those three that much better than some of the other LBs?

Any comments on either situation?

jimsumner
08-30-2011, 06:55 PM
That makes a lot of sense to me, redshirt Will and give us four years of him. Alex did a great job last year.

Cut told me over the summer that Monday would have to be "considerably" better than King for Duke to burn his redshirt. I like that kind of long-term thinking.

Alex King is a great example of being ready and taking advantage of your chance. Recruited senior Kevin Jones was the punter last season until his infamous meltdown at Wake Forest. King got his chance and did quite well and has built on that. Kudos.

jimsumner
08-30-2011, 07:01 PM
Couldn't help but notice that the true frosh included two WRs and three LBs, which seem like two very different situations. Our top three WRs seem locked, while only one of the LB slots seems claimed.

I can see wanting the additional WRs, because they can also contribute on special teams, and Cutcliffe likes to get his play-makers onto the field. But why are planning to burn three redshirts in our LB recruits from day one? Are those three that much better than some of the other LBs?

Any comments on either situation?

After the top 3 WRs, Duke has some need at that position. Duke has moved Tony Foster and Josh Trezvant from WR to DB. Other than Tyree Watkins, Duke doesn't really have any experienced depth at WR. Being a glass-half-full-kind-of-guy, I assume the moves are a reflection of Duke's confidence in the young wide-outs. But I freely confess that it could be a reflection on the DB play. Duke needs corners.

Duke has had some attrition at LB, most notably Tyree Glover, who was supposed to have been an impact player. So, again there's a need and an opportunity. Woodruff did enroll early and played spring ball, so I guess that gave him a leg up.

Acymetric
08-30-2011, 08:23 PM
Cut told me over the summer that Monday would have to be "considerably" better than King for Duke to burn his redshirt. I like that kind of long-term thinking.

Alex King is a great example of being ready and taking advantage of your chance. Recruited senior Kevin Jones was the punter last season until his infamous meltdown at Wake Forest. King got his chance and did quite well and has built on that. Kudos.

I did feel bad for Kevin in all that, as glad as I was to see Alex succeed. Kevin did a pretty good job for us before the Wake debacle, and was part of our special teams turnaround under Cut. Then again, that play was really awful.

Scorp4me
08-31-2011, 03:49 PM
Duke needs corners.

That statement right there sums up some of my biggest frustrations with Duke over the past...well, the past:(

jimsumner
08-31-2011, 03:59 PM
That statement right there sums up some of my biggest frustrations with Duke over the past...well, the past:(

I'm not disagreeing at all. But I would love to see what Duke's DBs could do with something resembling a consistent pass rush. I don't care how good you are, no one can guard a top WR indefinitely.

Devilsfan
08-31-2011, 04:11 PM
I remember one of our DB that opposing D coaches seemed to love throwing his way. I remember watching the games and seeing a lot of the back of his jersey. I believe he was named a freshmen AA. Guess our opponents want to make sure he is in our defensive backfield when they see us again.

jimsumner
08-31-2011, 04:28 PM
I remember one of our DB that opposing D coaches seemed to love throwing his way. I remember watching the games and seeing a lot of the back of his jersey. I believe he was named a freshmen AA. Guess our opponents want to make sure he is in our defensive backfield when they see us again.

You're probably talking about Ross Cockrell. He missed much of his senior season in high school with an injury and was redshirted as a Duke freshman. Duke threw him to the wolves last season as a redshirt freshman and he was toasted early and often. But he hung with it and got better as the season progressed. Down the stretch he was no longer a liability and was making plays, including two picks against UVA, eight tackles against BC and again against UNC.

I guess there are two ways to look at this. One is that Duke was so overmanned at the position that they put on the field a player totally incapable of playing at this level. The other is that Duke thinks Cockrell is going to be a pretty good player down the road and the best way to facilitate that was to get him on the field and let him take his lumps, with the expectation that this would pay off in the long run.

I know Duke very much feels that the latter is the case. Cut does have a big investment in Cockrell but he loves his long-term potential.

Corner backs frequently are alone on an island. Make a mistake and it's obvious to everyone and the consequences can be severe. Miss a tackle at the line and a 2-yard gain becomes a 5-yard gain. Miss a tackle in the secondary and a 15-yard gain becomes a score.

That's why a pass rush is so essential to the success of any pass defense. Duke's defensive linemen simply have to give their teammates in the backfield a fighting chance. That just hasn't happened with any regularity in a long time.

Duke of Nashville
08-31-2011, 04:28 PM
I'm not disagreeing at all. But I would love to see what Duke's DBs could do with something resembling a consistent pass rush. I don't care how good you are, no one can guard a top WR indefinitely.

Fact. Hopefully, we can grow/learn from last year. The 4-2-5 change appears to have given our players more confidence/comfortability with their abilities. This is going to be an exciting year for Duke Football! Go Duke!

Olympic Fan
08-31-2011, 05:08 PM
Couldn't help but notice that the true frosh included two WRs and three LBs, which seem like two very different situations. Our top three WRs seem locked, while only one of the LB slots seems claimed.




Although Grier is listed on the preseason roster as a LB, he's actually playing safety -- the hybrid spot that Blakeney was going to play. Right now, Augie Campbell (another former LB) is starting there, at least when Matt Daniels is at one of the other two safety slots (Daniels will play all three safety spots at times).

So two WR ... two LBs ... and one safety.

No Kyler Brown yet ... he was in a redshirt in the final scrimmage. That doesn't necessarily mean he redshirts, but as on right now, he's not in the playing rotation.

Crowder and Helton are the two freshmen I predict will have the most impact. Crowder is a tiny dynamo -- he's going to be devastating in the slot receiver position and as a kick returner.

Two more freshmen who may play right away are CBs Tim Burton and Jared Boyd. Both are VERY promising and could help right away on special teams. But the coaches may do what they do on the OL and DL and bite the bullet and redshirt them. Personally, I'm in Jim's camp on Ross Cockrell. His freshmen performance was MUCH better than some on this board seem to think. He did get burned at times, but improved during the year. He was fourth in the ACC in pass breakups. With a better pass rush, he'll be very good.

devildeac
08-31-2011, 06:34 PM
Plus, our DB have generally been a bit slow and a bit undersized the last several years so have been outrun and out-jumped fairly regularly. I do believe Cut has recruited faster and taller folks at those positions the last 2-3 years and past weaknesses in our defensive backfield will be a lot less this year and in the future. I, too, like the progress that Cockrell made as the season progressed last year.

davekay1971
08-31-2011, 06:44 PM
I'm not disagreeing at all. But I would love to see what Duke's DBs could do with something resembling a consistent pass rush. I don't care how good you are, no one can guard a top WR indefinitely.

Please copy this and send to Marty Hernie, GM, Carolina Panthers...

Bob Green
08-31-2011, 08:17 PM
Corner backs frequently are alone on an island.

Jim (or OlyFan), how much M2M coverage do you expect us to play? In the 4-2-5, I would expect to see us run a lot of Cover 3 zone. While M2M will certainly be an option, especially in conjunction with blitz packages, Cover 3 zone seems to be the base secondary alignment for a 4-2-5 defense (based upon tons of reading I accomplished over the summer).

Devilsfan
09-01-2011, 01:51 PM
Reading the above posts I can't wait to see that "much improved" sophomore DB have 4-5 ints against Mr. Luck a week from Saturday. If the Stanford coaches watched any of our last year's film and I'll bet they did, they certainly will be testing him a great bit. I believe all of you, but I just want to witness this improvement first hand. Zoubs made me a believer in the fact that through hard work you can really improve now it's the FB player from Charlotte's turn.

jimsumner
09-01-2011, 02:11 PM
Reading the above posts I can't wait to see that "much improved" sophomore DB have 4-5 ints against Mr. Luck a week from Saturday. If the Stanford coaches watched any of our last year's film and I'll bet they did, they certainly will be testing him a great bit. I believe all of you, but I just want to witness this improvement first hand. Zoubs made me a believer in the fact that through hard work you can really improve now it's the FB player from Charlotte's turn.

Need to narrow it down a bit. Duke has lots of players from the greater Charlotte area. :)

The passing defense will be tested before Luck shows up. Richmond's QB--Aaron Corp--started out at Southern Cal and Richmond WR Tre Gray is considered one of the best wideouts in FCS. So, Duke will be tested Saturday night.

Reilly
09-01-2011, 03:09 PM
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So two WR ... two LBs ... and one safety.....

What about true frosh G Patrick? He's listed on the 2-deep. Is the thinking that he will redshirt, and only play if a bunch of injuries hit the OL (of which we've had one: Moore, C)?

jimsumner
09-01-2011, 03:47 PM
What about true frosh G Patrick? He's listed on the 2-deep. Is the thinking that he will redshirt, and only play if a bunch of injuries hit the OL (of which we've had one: Moore, C)?

Duke would only burn his redshirt in the event of great and urgent need.