ikiru36
03-06-2011, 09:52 PM
I've heard it stated as an NBA truism that a "missed corner 3 always ends up as a layup, dunk or foul at the other end."
I have not myself nor have I seen this statement analyzed statistically, but anecdotally missing a 3 from the corner (and having it rebounded by the other team) does seem to lead to many easy fast breaks if the other team thinks to push the ball off the miss. If true at all, it makes some sense as at least one player (the shooter) is in especially bad position to help guard the break defensively (especially if he happens to try and follow his shot rather than immediately run back on D).
It sure seemed as if Duke was specifically trying to get Ryan open for those corner 3's and I actually thought he got some really good looks that simply didn't go down. Advantages of the corner 3 are that it's a slightly shorter distance shot(even moreso, I believe, in the NBA) and it is apt to become relatively open through good perimeter ball movement. Nevertheless, if it is a shot which when missed creates a likely defensive breakdown, should it be used more thoughtfully than other shots, with a specific mind towards adjusting one's transition defense accordingly?
Just wondering if anyone else has knowledge of this strategic issue and whether it is borne out in reality. If so, I can imagine that a strategy of shooting corner 3's might play into the hands of a Roy Williams coached team which pushes to fast-break whenever possible in transition (and, regrettably, looks to be highly efficient at it when run by Kendall Marshall). Of course, getting that open 3 shot for a 6'10" former McDonald's All-American 3 point contest winner, might genuinely be deemed worth the gamble, on average? :0)
Basically, just noting that Duke may have had a very good strategy in mind, which was encouraging Kelly to take those open 3's and, in general, a shooter should keep shooting if open. But if so, does anyone know if Duke's strategy for defensive transition takes the shot type and location into account?
It's just really painful to go from the excitement of seeing a good 3 point shooter firing up an open shot that you're hoping will go in, to the other team getting an easy basket at the other end. Just glancing at the play-by-play from yesterday, I don't see strong support that my stated concern led to LOTS of UNC points, but they did seem to make early offense attempts (shooting within 15 seconds) after most all of our missed 3's.
In any event, despite how well Carolina played, it still seemed like if Duke (Ryan and Kyle in particular) had just hit a couple of those open missed 3's (particularly in the first half), it might have been a very different game. As disappointing a loss as yesterday was, winning the ACC within the next week would take most all the sting out of it! Battle hard fellas!
Go Ryan!!!!!! Go Kyle!!!!!!!!!!! Go Duke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go Blue Devils!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GTHCGTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
P.S. So glad to see the women handle Carolina so beautifully down the stretch today, winning going away. Sure, the men's side generally gets me more hyped, but we beat the Holes for an ACC championship with some great seniors coming through in the clutch!!! It helps that I'm not currently living in N.C., but that largely salvages the weekend for me, WTG Duke Women's hoops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have not myself nor have I seen this statement analyzed statistically, but anecdotally missing a 3 from the corner (and having it rebounded by the other team) does seem to lead to many easy fast breaks if the other team thinks to push the ball off the miss. If true at all, it makes some sense as at least one player (the shooter) is in especially bad position to help guard the break defensively (especially if he happens to try and follow his shot rather than immediately run back on D).
It sure seemed as if Duke was specifically trying to get Ryan open for those corner 3's and I actually thought he got some really good looks that simply didn't go down. Advantages of the corner 3 are that it's a slightly shorter distance shot(even moreso, I believe, in the NBA) and it is apt to become relatively open through good perimeter ball movement. Nevertheless, if it is a shot which when missed creates a likely defensive breakdown, should it be used more thoughtfully than other shots, with a specific mind towards adjusting one's transition defense accordingly?
Just wondering if anyone else has knowledge of this strategic issue and whether it is borne out in reality. If so, I can imagine that a strategy of shooting corner 3's might play into the hands of a Roy Williams coached team which pushes to fast-break whenever possible in transition (and, regrettably, looks to be highly efficient at it when run by Kendall Marshall). Of course, getting that open 3 shot for a 6'10" former McDonald's All-American 3 point contest winner, might genuinely be deemed worth the gamble, on average? :0)
Basically, just noting that Duke may have had a very good strategy in mind, which was encouraging Kelly to take those open 3's and, in general, a shooter should keep shooting if open. But if so, does anyone know if Duke's strategy for defensive transition takes the shot type and location into account?
It's just really painful to go from the excitement of seeing a good 3 point shooter firing up an open shot that you're hoping will go in, to the other team getting an easy basket at the other end. Just glancing at the play-by-play from yesterday, I don't see strong support that my stated concern led to LOTS of UNC points, but they did seem to make early offense attempts (shooting within 15 seconds) after most all of our missed 3's.
In any event, despite how well Carolina played, it still seemed like if Duke (Ryan and Kyle in particular) had just hit a couple of those open missed 3's (particularly in the first half), it might have been a very different game. As disappointing a loss as yesterday was, winning the ACC within the next week would take most all the sting out of it! Battle hard fellas!
Go Ryan!!!!!! Go Kyle!!!!!!!!!!! Go Duke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go Blue Devils!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GTHCGTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
P.S. So glad to see the women handle Carolina so beautifully down the stretch today, winning going away. Sure, the men's side generally gets me more hyped, but we beat the Holes for an ACC championship with some great seniors coming through in the clutch!!! It helps that I'm not currently living in N.C., but that largely salvages the weekend for me, WTG Duke Women's hoops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!